Game 24: White Sox (13-10) vs. Orioles (14-10)
by The Wizard on Apr 27, 2008 12:00 PM CDT
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PrintBaltimore Orioles at Chicago White Sox, Apr 27, 2008 1:05 PM CDT
Jose Contreras (RHP) vs. Jeremy Guthrie (RHP)
Time: 1:05 p.m. CT, TV: CSN, Radio: WSCR AM-670 (B-R preview, Live Boxscore; 2007 MLB Gameday; 2008 MLB Gameday)
GO SOX!
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the probably just want
quentin to get comfortable playing left right now. no need to move him around yet.
Robbed AGAIN.
Dadgummit!
gonna out-engery a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them.
by defensive indifference on Apr 27, 2008 1:18 PM CDT reply actions
just fixed it!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
I love it Wiz.
I say it here and it comes out there.
You’re A-OK in my book.
"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'
Did Hawk just say what I think he just said?
He thinks OBP is overrated?
"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'
the worst part is i don't think he means
that every team in the mlb has been clued into it now and it’s value is being overbought to the detriment of other abilities. he probably meant, obp: what’s the big deal?
Tater mashed.
gonna out-engery a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them.
by defensive indifference on Apr 27, 2008 1:35 PM CDT reply actions
Are we watching the same game?
or were you being sarcastic? I saw several fat pitches. Even Hawk mentioned that and you know he is not going to sell out a Sox player.
Why?
Just one reason.
gonna out-engery a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them.
by defensive indifference on Apr 27, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Potential
Uribe is a known and mediocre player. Alexei might be good. Very little harm in finding out
Yeah... but we should find that out at AAA first
He isn’t as good as Uribe defensively (and probably never will be) and offensively he has shown nothing to suggest he would be an improvement over Uribe for the next few months.
No thanks.
Much worse in the field and probably only marginally better at the plate.
gonna out-engery a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them.
by defensive indifference on Apr 27, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree to a certain extent. I do agree that Alexei needs at bats whether here or in AAA. But I see little downside in taking ABs from Uribe. His defense is that valuable and his hitting is about as bad as you can expect from Alexei
nothing to suggest he would be an improvement over Uribe
Umm….for one, Alexei swings the bat normally…
Plus he runs faster than Uribe and doesn’t look like a lizard while doing so….
And just because someone does well in AAA doesn’t mean that will transfer to the bigs.
No need to send him down – looking at him right here works just fine.
I dont know what "normally" means
but in his last AB he swung out of his shoes several times, and as I said above, he had pitches to hit and didn’t even make contact on a few.
Also I think it is a bit absurd to assume that forcing him to first acclimate himself to AAA pitching couldn’t help him eventually in the majors. Why do you think the minor leagues are there in the first place? People need to move up the ladder step by step (given that of course some steps can be skipped by exceptional players). Now Alexei was a bit of an unknown commodity coming into the season as has been discussed. He had a good spring and he could play multiple positions so the Sox gave him a shot at starting in the Bigs. By now he has shown that he has been overmatched even with Ozzie giving him spot starts against pitchers which he should have the highest likelihood of success. Now the Sox need to realize he needed to start at a lower rung in the ladder and climb his way up.
I dont know what "normally" means
Case in point…
You aren't using the phrase "Case in point" correctly
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/case+in+point
You are quoting me (and changing my meaning in the process) in an attempt to make me look foolish, but your original “point” was not that I am a fool, it was that Alexei should be batting instead of Uribe. Therefore you have done nothing to justify your “Case in point” comment. (Something that would have justified such a comment would be Alexei having a good at bat or Uribe having a terrible one).
So I will here clarify my words and say that instead of “I don’t know what ‘normally’ means,” I should have said “I don’t know what you mean by ‘normally’”
And next time you reply to someone with some snarky comment, you should make sure you use your idioms correctly so you don’t appear foolish.
perhaps YOU should be more clear about what you mean
Cat for brains
Cat for Brains... yes... very funny... original too
But, I think the meaning of what I said was clear, and even if it wasn’t, I corrected myself.
However my being clear or not being clear has nothing to do with you being snarky while also incorrectly invoking an idiom, when I was simply trying to argue my point.
So obviously you've been ranked before
You basically ripped what I said, then made your remark in whatever context you did or didn’t mean.
I can’t read your mind, nor would I want to.
But just because YOU made a “mistake”, and I replied to it, don’t come crying to ME about it….
I was not being snarky – I was actually making a point.
So let it go already….go have a beer or something.
Geesh.
Not being snarky?
So you literally thought I was not aware of what the word “normally” means? That was the “point” you were making? I don’t see how that “point” is relevant to the conversation we were having. You were in fact not making a “point” at all. You were using a quote (which I admit I could have originally made clearer and I corrected myself since then) to be dismissive of my argument and I find that to be snarky and it irritates me enough to point out your misuse of the idiom.
And aside from all that mess, what make you think I am not having a beer already?
what make you think I am not having a beer already?
And maybe that’s your problem…
Keep it coming….I’m laughing my ass off.
Still getting a kick out of your Cat for Brains burn?
I don’t need to….you appear to doing a fine job all by yourself….
I wonder why
Fields hasnt been given an opportunity to play 2B. Isnt 2B easier to field then 3B or SS?
Well... techinically yes
2B is easier than SS but not 3B… and since you asked OR I guess yes would be the answer.
I hate fucking walking batters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pitching and defense.
Contreras is diddling around the edges
and when he does it ends up hurting us. Challenge the batters! Contreras, Vazquez, Danks and Floyd all could use that advise, I believe.
There's a BA catch
No other Sox outfielder would make.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
Win this.
Win this baseball game, please.
gonna out-engery a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them.
by defensive indifference on Apr 27, 2008 2:15 PM CDT reply actions
That was my strategy in Little League
I took a lot of walks, but was rarely described as having “gap power”
Goofy:
http://www.louisgray.com/graphics/antics_28.jpg
gonna out-engery a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them.
by defensive indifference on Apr 27, 2008 2:22 PM CDT reply actions
Alexi is badly
overmatched up here and should be learning more with Charlotte, shouldn’t he? His speed helped avoid the out, however.
He's not having a great game today
but he’s been really strong in other games.
I doubt it...
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
kinda funny
just jumped onto camden chat (o’s sb site) to see what they thought of that sac bunt after the roberts walk in the first. they weren’t happy, but that quickly just turned to ripping on alexei, swish and hawk and dj. i don’t mean a little bit either, the basball was secondary to the rip parade. some of it pretty funny, too.
Man, that's harsh.
They said Alexi looks like a ‘retard’. Brilliant commentary over three.
gonna out-engery a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them.
by defensive indifference on Apr 27, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
come on
the lack of hitting with RISP is killing this team right now. You got good players in the top half of the lineup consistantly getting on for the shitty bottom half that can’t do anything with them. It’s like trying to score big innings with half a MLB roster.
wtf
is Ozuna playing back on the grass for. I guess he’s trying to prevent the double, but it’s not like he’s the type of 3b that cat play deep and make up for it.
If he was outta place, Ozzie woulda made him change it
don’t ya think?
It's not a huge deal
And in general I have no problem playing back trying to take away extra base hits down the line. I guess I just can’t stand Ozuna.
I just can’t stand Ozuna
That much is obvious.
Make or break Inning
Top of the order vs. a pitcher with a pretty high pitch count. Best chance to do some damage
Nice inning for Jose
Maybe a little offense would be good….
....right about now….
Paulie!
gonna out-engery a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them.
by defensive indifference on Apr 27, 2008 2:50 PM CDT reply actions
defensive indifference....
..heard your crony got ejected yesterday?
Hahaha.
I don’t know that dude.
gonna out-engery a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them.
by defensive indifference on Apr 27, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh...
somebody Doorpeep and I know in the real world.
gonna out-engery a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them.
by defensive indifference on Apr 27, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
and he comes through!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
CQ looks like he knows what to do at bat
vs Alexi and Brian who look lost frequently. Change that this at bat.
Yes!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
That's what we need.
Points!
gonna out-engery a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them.
by defensive indifference on Apr 27, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions
Why not have Brian hang with Carlos
maybe something will rub off and then we’ll have two good ones.
Quentin
is the best 5 tool player in the organization, amazing trade by KW to take advantage of Arizona’s glut of young outfielder studs.
Now...
...let’s see if they can prevent blowing a Contreras quality start.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
Contreras gave the Sox six
I no longer hold him accountable for on-field events.
Remember the hand motion Terrence Mann does when leaving the minibus after going to the Red Sox game with Ray Kinsella? That’s my attitude.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
That is one of the finest obscure references
ever, Jim. You Gentleman Masher, you.
I took the "under".
Has Jose starting dropping down?
The release point they are showing on Gameday makes it look that way
He's here that quickly!?
Christ.
gonna out-engery a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them.
by defensive indifference on Apr 27, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
They got a lot of practice
Shipping relievers between Charlotte and Chicago last year. They’re good at it.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
hahahahaha.
Touche!
gonna out-engery a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them.
by defensive indifference on Apr 27, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Perfect
First sign of trouble after the sixth in a close game, yank him.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
Same old shit.
Thanks for coming, Ehren.
gonna out-engery a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them.
by defensive indifference on Apr 27, 2008 3:17 PM CDT reply actions
I've seen all I need to see
No balls…can’t handle the pressure…same old story
by hitlesswonder on Apr 27, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Definitely not Chicago Tough.
gonna out-engery a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them.
by defensive indifference on Apr 27, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Got Squeezed
In his first batter of the year, tough luck. I’m feeling pretty good about Thornton here though.
K!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Chicago Tough!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Jose's ERA under 4 after today's outing
So that’s nice to look at.
"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'
Wassermann is here and will help us
I am so happy to see MacDougald gone that The Wass has to be an improvement.
Somebody smartly palced
that material that makes pitchers walk batters in the VIS bullpen.
Pitching and defense.
took one
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
chased one
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Carlos! Carlos! Carlos! Carlos! Carlos! Carlos! Carlos! Carlos!
Pitching and defense.
HBP! HBP! HBP! HBP! HBP! HBP!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
He's the Master.
gonna out-engery a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them.
by defensive indifference on Apr 27, 2008 3:39 PM CDT reply actions
I just hope he doesn't get hurt by a fastball one of these days.
Pitching and defense.
Was the HBP super cheap?
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Apr 27, 2008 3:41 PM CDT reply actions
haha
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Apr 27, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Gamethread #2
http://www.southsidesox.com/2008/4/27/461859/game-24-gamethread-2
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
We cannot continue winning if this hitting doesn't get better
Swisher, RF 0.235
Cabrera 0.228
Thome 0.222
Konerko 0.218
Pierzynski 0.325
Quentin 0.288
Ramirez 0.138
Anderson 0.182
Ozuna 0.222
Pitching and defense.
doesn't OBP look good though?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Some yes, some no.
Not sure the Sox walk rate is sustainable.
Pitching and defense.
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