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Game 25: Gamethread #2

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Lots of baserunners, none have crossed the plate yet though...

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how many innings is that now?

If these guys leave Javy high and dry again I’m gonna be pretty pissed….

by swishit on Apr 28, 2008 4:33 PM CDT   0 recs

Our Offense is

really bad.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Apr 28, 2008 4:35 PM CDT   0 recs

i know oc hit into the dp, but i blame that inning on ozzie

leadoff walk, pitcher with control problems, and he puts the hit and run on. that’s horseshit. after the dp, he walks another guy. awesome ozzie. so anxious to “manage” he didn’t pay attention to what was going on. that blows.

Ahh, Good times...

by MarketMaker on Apr 28, 2008 4:36 PM CDT   0 recs

Didn't he do that in another game recently?

I think in games where the Sox offense struggles Ozzie uses the rule: If “Need To Make Something Happen” and OC (The Bat Handler) is up—> Hit and run. And OC hasn’t handled the bat well either time.

by hitlesswonder on Apr 28, 2008 4:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

sometimes tough to handle the bat well

when the other team knows what ozzie is likely to do and either pitches out or pitches a nearly unhittable ball (which is what happened in the prior situation to which you refer).

free jason bourgeois

by larry on Apr 28, 2008 4:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

the predictability of ozzie in these situations is a whole other aspect of the problem

but why would you want to make people swing against a guy with control problems? he’s giving you baserunners and adding to his pitch count and ozzie decides to take the pressure off the pitcher and put it on his hitter. it’s horseshit imo.

Ahh, Good times...

by MarketMaker on Apr 28, 2008 4:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

depends.

people were whining on here earlier about how the sox aren’t hitting the ball enough.

free jason bourgeois

by larry on Apr 28, 2008 4:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

shouldn't RS go up due to the low BABIP?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 28, 2008 4:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 28, 2008 5:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

sure

scoring is a bit more of a function of OBP and slugging than it is batting average. i would have thought that would be commonly accepted, at least on this board, by now.

free jason bourgeois

by larry on Apr 28, 2008 4:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

do you think the white sox can maintain the same obp/walk rate if they do not begin to hit better?

i know how runs are scored, it just seems unlikely that teams would not challenge the sox more if they do not raise their ba.

Ahh, Good times...

by MarketMaker on Apr 28, 2008 5:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

because there are teams (and i might add, fans) still dumb enough to look at batting average?

again, who cares about that. OBP and slugging are more important. teams often don’t challenge hitters who have low batting averages because – you guessed it – they hit the ball far when you do. this isn’t a jerry owens batting average we’re talking about. there’s some significant punch behind it. worry about slugging and OBP. batting average is cute but it’s usually window dressing.

free jason bourgeois

by larry on Apr 28, 2008 5:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

juan pierre is available

free jason bourgeois

by larry on Apr 28, 2008 7:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Juan Pierre has nothing to do with this argument...

How many runners did we have in scoring position that didn’t score because none of our hitters could manage a measly single? Unless the Sox expect every pitcher to walk or HBP runs in, they better start hitting for some AVG as well. Not every pitcher we face is Daniel “Wild Thing” Cabrera. I realize that OBP and SLG are more important but AVG is important too.

by SSH2005 on Apr 28, 2008 7:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you want someone to lift the sox' average

there ya go. you want someone to hit a measly single, he’s the poster boy. first or second in the league in singles ever since he became a regular.

always need something to complain about, don’t you? you spent all offseason complaining about sox players like jerry owens and so on who all they can do is hit for average and can’t hit for power or get on base frequently. now that the sox have addressed that concern with marked improvements in both categories, you’re back to batting average.

free jason bourgeois

by larry on Apr 28, 2008 7:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't want Juan Pierre...

I want OUR players to lift THEIR batting averages. What is so tough to understand?

So you can only have OBP and SLG and you can’t have all three categories? Quentin seems to get it and he has barely played a full season of baseball.

You are wrong and you are arguing with me just to argue. I’m sure you will have to get the last word in though.

by SSH2005 on Apr 28, 2008 7:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

and you're whining because you want something to whine about

if they were batting .300, you’d start whining about how clutch hitting is really important or some such thing.

free jason bourgeois

by larry on Apr 28, 2008 7:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

So now you are resorting to putting words in my mouth?

Now I know that you have lost the argument.

Thanks and have a great day.

by SSH2005 on Apr 28, 2008 7:49 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah

That’s very true. Ozzie’s predictability is in those situations is what I was intending to rather mildly criticize.

by hitlesswonder on Apr 28, 2008 4:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

1-2-3...

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 28, 2008 4:39 PM CDT   0 recs

what the fuck

Is Ozzie doing? First he comes out and says this is a slow team and blah blah blah he realizes it and blah blah blah they aren’t going to hit and run much. And suddenly CQ needs to steal more bases and we are hitting and running with the middle of the order coming up.

Ozzie drives me crazy with his doubltalk.

by madvillian on Apr 28, 2008 4:41 PM CDT   0 recs

We really aren't a line drive hitting team

and that means that we’re going to strand runners and GDP

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 28, 2008 4:42 PM CDT   0 recs

LL Cool Q!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 28, 2008 4:43 PM CDT   0 recs

SSH2005

Is CQ up over .300 now?

by swishit on Apr 28, 2008 4:43 PM CDT   0 recs

.303.

OPS – 1.047

Pitching and defense.

by ballyb on Apr 28, 2008 4:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Build Chicago Tough!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 28, 2008 4:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

d'oh!

stupid work responsibilities. i was poised and ready to unleash “Q the fireworks!” the next time Q homered at the cell, and then i miss it to brainstorm article ideas with my boss. life’s not fair.

by Ryno on Apr 28, 2008 5:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This Q! is good.

Pitching and defense.

by ballyb on Apr 28, 2008 4:45 PM CDT   0 recs

Watch Alexei get on base now....

when the pressure is off…

by swishit on Apr 28, 2008 4:45 PM CDT   0 recs

If only there were a term

for when a man has a non-sexual crush on another person, who also happens to be a man …

by The Actual El Guapo on Apr 28, 2008 4:47 PM CDT   0 recs

Well I just

would like to know if you know what a plethora is. I would not like to think that a person would tell someone he has a plethora, and then find out that that person has no idea what it means to have a plethora.

... or perhaps I am angry at something else, and am just looking to take it out on you.

I blame Uribe.

by The Actual El Guapo on Apr 28, 2008 5:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Vasquez is dialed in today....

Would love to see the Sox get this one for him

by swishit on Apr 28, 2008 4:52 PM CDT   0 recs

Staters getting the win when they work so hard

really contributes to building confidence as the season goes on, which obviously makes the rotation a lot stronger and feared by opponent hitters…

by swishit on Apr 28, 2008 5:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Was that

The Hold Steady getting played when the Score came back from a break?

by chrome on Apr 28, 2008 4:56 PM CDT   0 recs

Yup.

Better now than against Minnesota.

Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Apr 28, 2008 4:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i wouldn't be surprised

whoever does their music has a soft spot for indie rock. i’ve heard built to spill, the shins, and some others i can’t think of at the moment.

by Ryno on Apr 28, 2008 4:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ben Folds, often.

Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Apr 28, 2008 5:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

10% of Chicago knows who Carlos Quentin is.

90% of Chicago knows who Kosuke Fukudome is.

Pitching and defense.

by ballyb on Apr 28, 2008 4:58 PM CDT   0 recs

10% of Chicago knows who Carlos Quentin is.

90% of Chicago knows who Kosuke Fukudome is?

Pitching and defense.

by ballyb on Apr 28, 2008 4:58 PM CDT   0 recs

ozzie is proud...

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 28, 2008 4:59 PM CDT   0 recs

Sox need to re-acquire Bradford...

...he’s got facial hair that would really fit in our bullpen.

by vince_ on Apr 28, 2008 5:06 PM CDT   0 recs

paulie drives in swish!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 28, 2008 5:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

So

Is there anyone who really would rather see AJ batting ahead of Q at this point? I just pray for no DP so Q gets a chance here.

by madvillian on Apr 28, 2008 5:09 PM CDT   0 recs

Can CQ be the site' mascot now?

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 28, 2008 5:09 PM CDT   0 recs

Already is

as far as I’m concerned…. :-)

by swishit on Apr 28, 2008 5:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

aye

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 28, 2008 5:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I just hate that AB by A.J.

make him throw a strike….

by stanchar on Apr 28, 2008 5:11 PM CDT   0 recs

A ducksnort, Q!

Pitching and defense.

by ballyb on Apr 28, 2008 5:15 PM CDT   0 recs

Nice patience by CQ

rest of the team should take notice

by swishit on Apr 28, 2008 5:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Outside of a few instances

I’d say the Sox taken notice. On the one hand we complain that the Sox can’t maintain their high OBP with such a low average, and on a day they have, what, 8 walks…we’re insinuating the sox aren’t patient enough?

by chrome on Apr 28, 2008 5:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

with a capital A!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 28, 2008 5:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Q walks!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 28, 2008 5:16 PM CDT   0 recs

It does look like hes riding a horse

by thecip on Apr 28, 2008 5:16 PM CDT   0 recs

Carlos Quentin

can do no wrong right now, at least at the plate.

by madvillian on Apr 28, 2008 5:17 PM CDT