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Jav-rything's Gonna Be Alright

I feel like a real life, grizzled newspaperman writing headlines like that.

Anyway, it's true enough that Javy sucked last night. Cheat spelled it out plainly; this one could get ugly and the spectre of '07 is not one that is easily washed from the memory. That sucker is burned in there like that time you walked in on your parents. Yeah, that time.

Star-divide

But let's take some deep breaths and at least affirm that we got beat by a guy that's going to beat a lot of teams. Carmona finished fourth in the AL Cy Young voting and probably should have gone higher; his 64.0 VORP was the second highest in the AL, behind his teammate Sabathia. CC won the thing, but at least we hit him hard on Monday. 5 runs per game against Cleveland's 1-2 is a pretty solid outcome. The problem right now is clearly our pitching.

Buehrle got chased right quick and it looks like we should expect that to some degree against the best hitting teams. Javy, though, is the guy I kept calling our ace and a legit #1 and he burned me good last night. So what went wrong?

Control, mostly. According to Pinto's Day by Day Database, that was Javy's 3rd worst start in a White Sox uniform based on BB/IP (Check out those peripherals. Pretty nice, eh?). His .8 was well outside his average of .27 in the now 66 times he's toed the rubber for the Good Guys.

While I can't confirm that it was the case through the first four innings, the cause to me seemed distinct when I picked up the game in the fifth. Highlighted by a bases loaded walk on a 3-2 count which dictated Javy throw a fastball and throw it for a strike, he let one rip and it tailed up and in for ball four. As it appeared on many of the other pitches he threw that inning, his arm action differed significantly from its normal path. Instead of clearing the arm normally, his elbow sagged and release point dropped and he lost his ability to throw on the appropriate downward plane. Instead of the pinpoint command that he showed off time and again last year, he was leaving the ball up and while his natural stuff bailed him out a few times, the walks caught up to him and the Sox were dead in the water.

This is a pretty easy fix and I'm sure Coop will see it. I'd even bet Javy could pinpoint where he was going wrong and I don't think this will be an ongoing issue. This performance was well outside of his norm. He's still going to be our ace and we can hopefully let ourselves breathe a slight sigh of relief as we prepare to watch a slightly below .500 club march in that direction over the course of 162 games. But for the love of God can we win tomorrow? Every loss with that kind of ineptitude makes the startling moans of '07 all too easy to remember.

Link: Cheat's recap

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Senor Javy

I'm not worried about Javy, it's those other four in the starting rotation. If Javy regresses - uh, I don't even want to think about that.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 3, 2008 7:34 AM CDT reply actions  

So Colin...

How can you keep up with game threads using an iPhone? In the office it's easy using the z key on Windoze, but at home, on the phone, it proved overwhelming and I had to quit. Just as well as I was too distracted from the game. Oh wait: that would be a good thing, wouldn't it?

Next time, Bhoov, do some research.

by Chiburb on Apr 3, 2008 9:55 AM CDT reply actions  

I dn, after the threads get really long

it gets to be too much, since the autoload feature gets bogged down. But I'm pretty used to having a laptop on my lap while I'm on the couch watching the game.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 3, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

thereabouts

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 3, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

i wonder if it's possible

for a new gamethread to appear automatically after, say, 250 or 275 posts.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 3, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not aware of something like that

I only know the auto scheduler based on time which is pretty sweet

by The Wizard on Apr 3, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

tell them to create it, then

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 3, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

you're higher than the rest of us

all you need to do is tell them that 1) the gamethread gets harder to load after about that many posts and 2) it's especially difficult for those who are using handheld devices (which i'd imagine is and will become a not inconsequential amount of traffic for this site).

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 3, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

less than 1%

at least by what I'm seeing

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 3, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

and the reason i'm not part of that less than 1%

is exactly these sorts of problems. your site crashed my device last week.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 3, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

never crashed me before

and i rather thought the point of upgrading the site was to, you know, upgrade the site, not make it the same as before the move.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 3, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah If I had my way

I'd make it so that cell phones that accessed the site physically blew up. I hate cell phones, and the thought of browsing the internet on them seems about as appealing as driving the Dan Ryan on a moped.

Lucky for you the dev team doesn't feel the same way, and are working hard on a mobile friendly version of our sites for you annoying crackberry addicts.

Also, my same as before comment was referring to the amount of mobile traffic on the site. You don't honestly think the site is the same as before do you?

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 3, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

i don't have a cell phone

i have a blackberry which i use for email and internet access. i'm sure you hate all of us who have them but welcome to life, cheat. responding to emails on it is far easier than lugging around a laptop. and if i'm on the train - get out of your car and suburbs - i see no reason why i shouldn't be able to follow the game or why i should be using a laptop in such a situation.

as to your question, no. which is why i would have expected upgrades for mobile users.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 3, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know what else you want me to say

They're working on it. They're getting paid to make sure the site is accessible by even the most crippled mobile browsers.

I'll never be convinced it was worth their effort.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 3, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's the future, cheat

don't stand in the way.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 3, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

The future

is solid state memory UMPCs or sub-laptops running free open source software and/or running online apps and extra storage.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 3, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

i have no idea what that means

what i do know is that i already have something called a blackberry and i would visit this site quite often on it if the site was mobile friendly and i didn't have to spend two minutes on my blackberry doing something that should take 20 seconds.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 3, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

the future is the nokia n800?

strange, as the iphone is (or is about to be) beating the pants off of it.

by thatshortkid on Apr 3, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

The iphone is glimpse of the future

and anything with Nokia on it is only the future if it's 1998.

The iphone is the best executed UMPC to date, but I wouldn't really call it a PC.

I would say the future, the as of yet unseen device, is iphone like, probably running Google's android (or some light linux distro)... need more time for solid state memory to come down in price. Once you can get 32G and a decent enough processor so that you can actually multitask (iPhone's SDK makes it a unitasker) on the market for about $200-$250, it'll be the future... I haven't seen it yet, probably at leas a couple years away still.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 3, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blackberries are pretty cool.

My wife has one.

I've resisted, precisely because I know that I would be playing with it 24/7.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 3, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am sure Coop will fix...

I pray that Coop will fix but after listening to him explain how it took 1 1/2 years for him, Coop, to make suggestions to Javy I wonder if the Sox have any coaches who speak up quickly and loudly when they see aproblem developing.

by floridajim on Apr 3, 2008 10:16 AM CDT reply actions  

Am I imagining this...

I thought Javy has a history of not being able to get past the 6th inning or so, si?

"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)

by tailgater on Apr 3, 2008 10:30 AM CDT reply actions  

doesn't really make much mathematical sense, no?

a guy who has averaged 215+ innings the past 8 seasons while averaging about 33 starts.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 3, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sweet

Quentin getting a start today. Swish in center.

by Ryno on Apr 3, 2008 10:30 AM CDT reply actions  

We'll see BA this weekend too... parting gifts as

1 of them is sent to Charlotte to make room for Jesse.

Next time, Bhoov, do some research.

by Chiburb on Apr 3, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

jerry's going to need a few starts in charlotte himself

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 3, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

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