Game 4: Gamethread #2
by The Wizard on Apr 4, 2008 1:33 PM CDT
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thanks wiz
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Wow...no error on that.
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
ugh
Jim, what are you swinging at?
I, too, was taught karate by an old asian man who was the maintenance man in my building.
that's the pitch that's killed him against lefties
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
he loves waving at that
breaking ball in the dirt away
I, too, was taught karate by an old asian man who was the maintenance man in my building.
against lefties? That's why I remember from last year
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
i was making sure
because marketmaker said it was a breaking ball.
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
yeah
i meant slider.
I, too, was taught karate by an old asian man who was the maintenance man in my building.
people often call a slider a "breaking ball"
but it's generic
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
yep
thome has been like the case in point for keeping a lefty specialist in your bullpen.
I, too, was taught karate by an old asian man who was the maintenance man in my building.
Paulie's swing doesn't have at loft in it right now
rolling everything over
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Just as long as he keeps trying to push things into RF
That's usually a good sign for Paulie.
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
I didn't think he was... But if he is you're right.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Stay hot JD!
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
In the meantime
We're so focused on Jose - this Robertson sux big time too, the Tigers have some issues
the tiger bullpen desnt scare me either
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
as long as his control is decent, I'm guessing he first turn through the league will go well
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
that's a pretty big "as long as" with willis, isn't it?
Your Chicago White Sox: Allergic to Sustained Success
by Toonderstrook on Apr 4, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
haven't seen his numbers recently, so I dn
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Quick as hell hands on that guy
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
big AB here for Q
I, too, was taught karate by an old asian man who was the maintenance man in my building.
i can't see any of the action,
but would a player of average speed and baserunning ability have scored from first on either of jd's doubles?
Your Chicago White Sox: Allergic to Sustained Success
probably...but Paulie sure as hell isn't that
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
in the instance yes
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
WTF is Jose doing back out there?!?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
to face their best hitters of course
what is with this sidearm shit. stop it, for chrissakes.
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
completely fucked up
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
because he's throwing basically fastballs
if you want to throw sidearm, here's an idea: throw more than one type of pitch from it. hitters aren't dumb.
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
Uribe would have turned that himself last year
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
i tought it was turnable live
but the replay clearly showed that ball was deep behind second. that would have been a great turn.
I, too, was taught karate by an old asian man who was the maintenance man in my building.
yeah? I didn't see it
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
OC got that ball on the first base side of 2nd
and 3 steps behind the bag. it was actually taking him away from the bag.
I, too, was taught karate by an old asian man who was the maintenance man in my building.
man that's a nice piece of hitting
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Our Bullpen is going to be
in for a long day today. Ugh.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
Bring in Nick Magic
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
son of a bitch
get him on the DL or something
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Does he really have the infield in?
Maybe I'm wrong...but if he does that's a stupid move.
seems like every time the Sox have done that this year
it's followed by a hit in the hole
AIM: SouthSideCheat
trying to maintain the tie...you have to bring the OF in too though imo
the whole problem is that a single has a much value right here
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
I still think it was wrong...
but LOVE THE RESULT!
Only 87 pitches. Feels like 187.
'08-to-date --- 1 triple to RF against the Sox.
Let's see
His velocity is down, he can't get the forkball over, and when he drops down sidearm is spinning up there at 81mph and coming back over the plate.
There's a lot to like there today, lets keep him in
Oh thank you Jeebus
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
seriously
Maggs and Renteria making easy outs and the baserunning there are the only thing keepin Jose from allowing double digit runs this game
AIM: SouthSideCheat
absolutely
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
not much you can do
on a ball hit that hard
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
Harry Houdini
'08-to-date --- 1 triple to RF against the Sox.
Over/under on how many Reds Leyland has smoked today?
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
that's commies right?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
depends upon how much coffee's he's had
day game, i'd say a lot.
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
Contreras is pitching
better than Buehrle so far this year. That is something I didn't think I would see...so there's a positive???
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
How is this a tie game?
I feel like the Tigers should be up anywhere between 9 and 18
I'm almost tempted to say Joe maybe fixed his
swing a bit, but these pitchers are of low quality
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
and there are a lot of them in baseball
you can make a lot of dough doing it.
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
Feeling out the 5.5 hole isn't quite "mashing"
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Ozzieball at it's best
Bringing the infield in in the 5th and then sacrificing in the 6th.
And by "best" I mean "worst".
What's going on?
Yahoo is frozen since the wild pitch.
sox got out of the inning, good guys on first and second, one out, cabrera up
www.tremendousupsidepotential.com
he likes his bullpen?
like a whole, whole lot?
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
Don't bring up the BP with Pete
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
Ozzie better not bring Contreras
back out if he's gonna play for 1 run with the sac bunt. We need runs in bulk if your gonna keep chancing it with the Count's horseshit.
I, too, was taught karate by an old asian man who was the maintenance man in my building.
See I like that we took the bat out of Juan's hands there
to get to the top of the order
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
See him handle that bat, Pete.
'08-to-date --- 1 triple to RF against the Sox.
3-R HR....Small Ball!!!
Come On JIM
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
we should be able to get to the decent parts of our pen now
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
what's the oops? Also where's the sig from?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Come on, Colin. Get w/ the orogram.
"harry caray" Mexico "jorge orta"
'08-to-date --- 1 triple to RF against the Sox.
Booner/Thornton > Dotel/Linebrink and then Bobby
there's 4 IP between those 5
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
like i said
a stretch. never count on five relievers to perform on the same day.
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
yeah you're probably right
should have said "might" not "should"
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
I was just excited to get out from under the Contreras/Masset suckfest
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Boone's up in the pen
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
I hate the noiseometer more than any other
lame scoreboard contrivance. Also good pitch by Miner there.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
What happened?
Gameday sucks
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
Was that a bad play by Cabrera?
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
I'd like to know too
Not too happy with Cabrera so far this year.
Ozzie is going
to lose this for us.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
ah kuh kuh kuh kuh
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Not to jinx it, but larry is looking pretty good on the Boone breakout call
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Just jinxed it
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
douche
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Mentioning the possibiltyof the jim's is usually enough to keep the jinx at bay, as last inning proved.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
*of the jinx
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
were probably both thinking it about the same time
but i think cheat got to it first on the diary i posted. third year for a young reliever with his stuff? about a no brainer. he's becoming a smarter pitcher, too.
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
he slipped there right?
that oughtve been routine, right?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
getting back to contreras for a moment
that was disappointing. not that i really expected anything different but seeing that really puts a damper on any expectations i may still hold for the sox being able to compete. yeah, one start and all but the sox really need a solid - not necessarily spectacular - 1-4 in the rotation.
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
would be nice if they just moved him to the pen
and brought up egbert.
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
sunk cost
better get some value instead of none.
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
i think they would send him to the bullpen
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
the cubans i've seen
have had some nice success from the pen.
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
I'm with you Larry.
Maybe Floyd will surpass all expectations.
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
i thought about including floyd in that post
but i have even less confidence in floyd to do mediocre than i do in contreras. but i'll withold judgment on all these guys until the appropriate time. it's still early april
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
He just looks scared, that's what bugs me. I can't comprehend why he would pitch like this.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
There we go!
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
AJ is en fuego!
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
He dropped some poundage
and now he's swingin' a mean stick!
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
Hey hey CQ!
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
masset has always been, always is, and always will be.
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
he's a lot like entropy
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
that's deep man
I, too, was taught karate by an old asian man who was the maintenance man in my building.
Quentin in kind of a monster
I got here in the 5th, but LF Quentin's now? Alexei just wasn't ready, that seemed pretty clear, even in small sample sizes
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The Sox NEED Q in the lineup
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
i think q is doing enough to ensure he's here
and getting significant ABs. gotta keep it up, of course.
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
It's not if he is here though
It's if he's starting. If he's on the bench while Owens is hitting leadoff I'd rather have Anderson as the fourth outfielder.
by Grinder in Training on Apr 4, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Owens better not be anywhere near this roster
We're very lucky he was injured to start the year. Hopefully this start for the offense proves you don't need a .300 OBP fast guy on top of the lineup.
Ideally...
Quentin sticks in LF, Fields replaces Crede at the trade deadline, and Ramirez goes to AAA, tears it up, and replaced Uribe at 2B at the deadline.
Cue circus music
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
Crede looked nice there
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
OOOOOH BABY!!!!!!!!!!!
WHO WANTS TO TALK ABOUT DETROITS BULLPEN NOW?!?!? CHEAT...
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 4, 2008 2:28 PM CDT reply actions
Probably INF
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
Also if MacDougal is The Arsonist
Then that makes Grilli The Firebomber and this inning is Dresden
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
that's all crede there
I, too, was taught karate by an old asian man who was the maintenance man in my building.
i shouldn't lay into q for that
crede fucked that up for everyone
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
and how is someone not on 3rd now
I, too, was taught karate by an old asian man who was the maintenance man in my building.
Because Joe is an idiot
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Grilli bringing the suck
He can't get anyone out. This is great.
Fucking hell Joe
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
The count
not a horrible outing by Contreras, if IROID has his eyes open on his second double he probaly doesnt luck into 2 RBI's. He still needs to pitch around the zone more with his fastball, but im sure at his age he couldnt lossen up too much in the cold ass weather. Im not too worried.
i'll gladly pay you tuesday
for power today.
I, too, was taught karate by an old asian man who was the maintenance man in my building.
i'm fine with three walks
but i guess that's just me
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
Me too
but I'd like 30+ bombs out of him too.
then relax
he needs to hit one every five games or so to do that
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
Are you hopped up on the coke, Rock? Relax man. It's game 4.
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
Where can you buy that at?
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
BTW
if Rooney was still around it would be sex for the ears.
most important comment ever?
I, too, was taught karate by an old asian man who was the maintenance man in my building.
More Boone or are we going with someone else?
Maybe Thorton.
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
All right....I'm cool with that.
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
Jalapeno Hot Salsa Sunflower Seeds
Look into them
Just got back. AJ for fucking President of the U.S.A.!!!
'08-to-date --- 1 triple to RF against the Sox.
this country isn't ready
for a polish president.
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
I have never hated
commercials like I hate these horrifying Miller Chill radio ads.
And I hate most ads.
is there a more obvious
juicer with no heat on him than IROD? The guy went from HR hitting master to tiny little slap hitter in a flash
Catchers don't age well.
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
frankly
his career arc for home runs looks pretty normal. maybe he was on steroids but i wouldn't use that as a reason.
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
Normal?
Slg from mid 5's and 6's to mid to low 4's in a few years? He's an obivous and named juicer.
he's a catcher
how many catchers do you know that are still even playing regularly at his age.
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
Obvious & Named?
Obvious is your opinion.
Named, where and by who?
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
by jose canseco, of course
extremely reputable source, that.
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
Guy is past his prime
Hasn't shown me anything. Wish we still had Garland.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 4, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
then
you would be bitching about uribe lol
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 4, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
True
but I am still bitching about Uribe.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 4, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Not me
great trade. Avg starter for GG SS and 2 prospects. Couldnt have been better.
Prospects are
garbage and Cabrera is not a GG SS anymore.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 4, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Which prospects...
are those? I thought that was a straight-up trade.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 4, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh.
wouldn't they have gotten the draft picks, anyway, by letting Garland walk? Or is he not a type-"A"? I have trouble keeping them straight.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 4, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
garland will be a type b, cabrera likely a type a
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
WTF happened there
Bad baserunning by Crede? How did Quentin get thrown out at home? Seems like bad baserunning all around.
Why are we being so damn aggresive up 3 runs with nobody out, wtf. Pad the lead, we don't need to force things.
no one was being aggressive
crede was being stupid.
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
Crede took off on contact...and the Carlos freaked out and took off too and got hung up
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
I think this is a hot gun today
No way Contreras was in the 90s by the way the batters were reacting, they were standing stone still
he was 86-90, that sound right
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
oh the WGN gun wasn't...you've got gameday and you're watching or what?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Shows what you know!
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Dotel is getting whiffs with the fastball, so I'm inclinedtolike his stuff at least today
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Linebrink 8th, Jenks 9th?
It's early, but my confidence in our pen has raise 100% since last year. And if Boone keeps this up, and Massett keeps a WHIP below 2 then even better
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Yeah, I was a bit too quick earlier...
his stuff didn't look great against Cabrera but then it improved.
how awesome would it be
if KW's 7-8-9 dotel linebrink jenks really did turn these games into 6 inning affairs?
I, too, was taught karate by an old asian man who was the maintenance man in my building.
really really awesome?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
that is the correct answer
I, too, was taught karate by an old asian man who was the maintenance man in my building.
it would be better
if we had starters who could get there with the lead.
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."
quiet you! Jose is going to be juuust fine
...like an old horse with a broke leg
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
how many teams have 5 dominant bullpen guys?
If dotel and linebrink work out and Jenks stays consistent, I'd be fine with that
www.tremendousupsidepotential.com
Feeling better about the bullpen?
'08-to-date --- 1 triple to RF against the Sox.
for now anyway
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
DLEE
one year older than Konerko, but nobody predicted a decline like they claim pauly was in last year. WTF?
Lee is in much better shape than Konerko and he doesn't have chronic hip problems either.
Lee is an athlete. Konerko... well, he hits the ball far.
Thornton
will pitch the 8th. Got two lefties batting...
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
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