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Game 5: White Sox (2-2) @ Tigers (0-4)

Chicago White Sox at Detroit Tigers, Apr 5, 2008 2:55 PM CDT


Gavin Floyd vs. Dontrelle Willis

Time: 2:55 p.m. CT, TV: FOX, Radio: WSCR AM-670 (B-R preview, Live Boxscore; 2007 MLB Gameday; 2008 MLB Gameday)

Good Guys:

	Name		 AVG	HR	RBI	SB
1. N Swisher, CF	.214	0	0	0
2. O Cabrera, SS	.188	0	0	1
3. J Thome, DH		.188	2	4	0
4. P Konerko, 1B	.231	0	2	0
5. J Dye, RF		.471	1	2	0
6. C Quentin, LF	.333	1	2	0
7. J Crede, 3B		.294	1	2	0
8. P Ozuna, 2B		-	-	-	-
9. T Hall, C		-	-	-	-

Bad Guys:

	Name		 AVG	HR	RBI	SB
1. C Thomas, CF		.556	0	1	1
2. P Polanco, 2B	.105	0	0	0
3. C Guillen, 1B	.385	1	1	0
4. M Ordonez, RF	.235	0	0	0
5. M Cabrera, DH	.200	1	1	0
6. E Renteria, SS	.222	0	1	0
7. I Rodriguez, C	.250	0	2	0
8. J Jones, LF		.091	0	1	0
9. B Inge, 3B		.308	1	1	0

GO SOX!

 

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Wewease da Secwet Weapon!

/An American Tale

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 1:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Pablo is batting 8th in an NL lineup today

he's gotta swing the bat with 2 outs an men on.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 5, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man,

We need to get swish out of lead-off.

by Swish30 on Apr 5, 2008 1:41 PM CDT reply actions  

that is not correct.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

didn't he walk 3 times yesterday?

don't remember that happening last year.

Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote

by Chiburb on Apr 5, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

refresh my memory?

was it last year or '06 that Willis threw batting practice to the Sox? Looked almost like he was just going thru the motions instead of pitching.

Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote

by Chiburb on Apr 5, 2008 1:56 PM CDT reply actions  

It was last year during interleague

He was "trying to take something off" of his pitches so he would have more control. He was still wild, and was eminently hittable.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 5, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

thx

I don't think he made it out of the 1st or 2nd.

Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote

by Chiburb on Apr 5, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seeing this lineup

reminds me why I don't think Ozuna belongs on this roster. You have to have a backup catcher, so although Hall sucks there isn't an easy solution there.

Ozuna, on the other hand, might be hurting us in more way than one. He is a minus hitter/defender, which in itself is detrimental, and if Alexei is gonna stay on the roster, than this should be a start for him at 2nd. Alexei needs at-bats. He looks like he might be overmatched right now, but I think he is still giving you equal production to Ozuna.

Besides, does anyone want to see the 8-9 of this order as Ozuna-Hall. Come on, that blows.

by MarketMaker on Apr 5, 2008 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

That intro by Swisher was hilarious

and I love the fact that he can get a walk after being down 0-2

"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca

by BoKnows on Apr 5, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Much needed personality

back in the clubhouse.

AND some old fashioned (back in the '05 days) Sox Swagger.... :-)

by swishit on Apr 5, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was a stupid call Ozzie

"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca

by BoKnows on Apr 5, 2008 3:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Sox are 20-9 at Comerica since '05

Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote

by Chiburb on Apr 5, 2008 3:06 PM CDT reply actions  

So how is Floyd looking?

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Colin, this is on Fox. Can't you get it?

Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote

by Chiburb on Apr 5, 2008 3:11 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah but I just picked it up

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope they're paying Steve Stone

enough to keep him. He's fabulous.

How good? You hardly notice Farmer.

'08-to-date --- 1 triple to RF against the Sox.

by ballyb on Apr 5, 2008 3:11 PM CDT reply actions  

too old for an extension

his skills will only decline.

Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote

by Chiburb on Apr 5, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

What are Bill James thoughts

re announcer's peak years?

'08-to-date --- 1 triple to RF against the Sox.

by ballyb on Apr 5, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's on the right side of 60

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Someone should tell Magglio

he ain't Sampson.
Needs to cut his mop...

by swishit on Apr 5, 2008 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

maybe he IS sampson!

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

hehehe

perhaps in MIS mind anyway. :-)

One thing is certain: he will ALWAYS remember that greed cost him a ring (when he retires without one).

by swishit on Apr 5, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maggs played 82 games that year and slugged .436

we wouldn't have won a WS if he stayed, not to mention the money saved that allowed us to sign all the players we signed the offseason prior also not to mention the fact that he did what everyone in his position would do. There's no reason what so ever to hate on Maggs. He was a very good player who played hard for us.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not "hating" on Maggs...

always liked him.
Just think he made the wrong decision.

And it's only an opinion.

by swishit on Apr 5, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

he made the right choice for us as it turns out

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

that was a pair of nice deuces

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Well that wasn't so bad. Interesting that all three outs happened that way.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm not sure which is more shocking....

...these "best on paper" tiggers starting 0-4...
...or KC being on top in the central...
??

by swishit on Apr 5, 2008 3:20 PM CDT reply actions  

that's 3 FB, 1 LD and 1 GB right now

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Whatta you think, Pete?

'08-to-date --- 1 triple to RF against the Sox.

by ballyb on Apr 5, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

well he wasn't going to get him anyway

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeaaaaah

but, it was still a poor throw. reeeeeally wide of the plate.

"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'

by Hazymania on Apr 5, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

true dat

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm bad luck

turn on the game on to see three consecutive hits.

by BustedFlush on Apr 5, 2008 3:31 PM CDT reply actions  

You

or Gavin

"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'

by Hazymania on Apr 5, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Floyd is throwing a lot of bad fastballs right now

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Pablo not getting that 06 luck

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Joe got his out of the infield anyway

but that's 5 in 5 games

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

that goatee looks glued on

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:37 PM CDT reply actions  

what is he at, 7 walks now?

that could easily be more than IRod has for the next two seasons

by BustedFlush on Apr 5, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

3 yesterday and 2 today

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Swish walks...

again.

And a Moneyball reference.

"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'

by Hazymania on Apr 5, 2008 3:37 PM CDT reply actions  

heinous

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

worse than that

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

made a nice play ranging glove side

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey!

That one was to the RIGHT side of the infield.

Now we're getting fancy.

"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'

by Hazymania on Apr 5, 2008 3:40 PM CDT reply actions  

cabrera doesn't have joe's power

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's got a PhD in pop ups

Joe Crede, DPO

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

WTF? Do Swish and Hall have

masking tape on their chins?

Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote

by Chiburb on Apr 5, 2008 3:42 PM CDT reply actions  

It's double sided and they dipped them in dog fur

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

anyone notice the total absence of Floyd's slider?

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:44 PM CDT reply actions  

was that it?

"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'

by Hazymania on Apr 5, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

nah that was the curve

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know

Just having some fun.

"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'

by Hazymania on Apr 5, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's worse?

Magglio's hair or Swisher's facial hair?

by vince_ on Apr 5, 2008 3:46 PM CDT reply actions  

the latter by a mile

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

You mean

the latter by the length of Mag's hair?

by BustedFlush on Apr 5, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't like Gavin's mechanics

Makes sure that everything he misses goes up and in

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:46 PM CDT reply actions  

me either. Got a tuneup and still spewing smoke.

Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote

by Chiburb on Apr 5, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

you hear that old guys?

make sure your heart is healthy enough to take Viagra. Bally, WU and Burb: you guys be careful out there.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:48 PM CDT reply actions  

tried it once, got caught in my throat:

had a stiff neck all weekend.

Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote

by Chiburb on Apr 5, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

at last you didn't mistake it for a suppository

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

*least

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

the other half of that joke is

you'd have the posture of a 20 year old

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey alright he tried to go oppo there

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:51 PM CDT reply actions  

cmon JD stay hot

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:54 PM CDT reply actions  

just think if we had Fields coming up after CQ

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:56 PM CDT reply actions  

I think that counts

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shit

good rip CQ

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Stupid game of inches

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 3:59 PM CDT reply actions  

not really

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate FOX so much.

Like I want to watch the Dodgers and Padres.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 5, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

plus you get blacked out right?

that's such BS

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

"something else steroids can do to a guy's body"

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Good job JD.

GOOD JOB JD.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 5, 2008 4:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Hell YEAH!

That was great.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 5, 2008 4:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Get fucking Owens in that outfield.

IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

'08-to-date --- 1 triple to RF against the Sox.

by ballyb on Apr 5, 2008 4:03 PM CDT reply actions  

CQ is really turning into a favorite of mine

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Q double off reteria at first

after catching a ball deep in LF (about 10 feet short of the track) threw the ball on teh fly to Kong

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 5, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eenteria on first went half way on a flyball to left and CQ unleashes his cannon to double him up

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

woah

Q must have the cannon upgrade from BaseWars.

by thecip on Apr 5, 2008 4:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Amazing throw.

But you notice Renteria on the trot back, right?

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 5, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

but that that accuracy is still really impressive

by BustedFlush on Apr 5, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

does it matter?

that throw right there will be keeping runners honest for the rest of the year.

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure, and Renteria may have been safe had he hustled...

but that's not the point. The point is that it shows that we now have a LF'er who has a great arm. No garbage Podsednik or Owens arms.

by SSH2005 on Apr 5, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gavin may not be doing great

but not even having a hit off Willis is inexcuseable

by CatBrains on Apr 5, 2008 4:09 PM CDT reply actions  

we've had good at bats

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

why hit

when you can walk?

and quentin was about three feet from having a hit. thems the breaks.

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really Gavin?

Where the hell is that slider? My projection was contingent upon the single pitch he had that actually moves away from right handed batters. He looks like last year with somehwat simpler mechanics, but he's still only throwing his fastball for a strike. Ugh ugh ugh ugh.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Should have signed Bartolo Colon...

he's touching 95 - 96 MPH in some minor league starts with the Red Sox AAA team.

by SSH2005 on Apr 5, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe he's not toast when I see it.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

same gun as masset?

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

No idea but here's the link...

Link:

Bartolo Colon faced just one batter over the minimum in five scoreless innings Thursday for Triple-A Pawtucket.
Colon hit 95 and 96 mph on the guy in the game against Indianapolis. Clay Buchholz's margin for error is getting smaller by the day. If Colon remains successful, the Red Sox will have to give him a look at the back of their rotation.

by SSH2005 on Apr 5, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

i never believe mph

in an article, especially about minor league games. heck, i never believe it on tv.

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pablo

You're the number 8 hitter. You don't bunt in front of the pitcher

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 5, 2008 4:12 PM CDT reply actions  

The Weapon better not be bunting here

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe...

the Sox should just stop swinging until Willis proves that he can throw strikes on a consistent basis.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 5, 2008 4:12 PM CDT reply actions  

yes

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is correct

we shouldn't be swinging until we see a strike

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was going to say that but then I thought about Joe Crede hitting with two strikes

he's got a doctorate

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Toby is going after Joe's team lead

This backup catcher situation has to be driving Jim nuts.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Toby doesn't have enough talent...

to be sporting the bleached beard like Jenks and Swisher.

by SSH2005 on Apr 5, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

no one has enough talent for that

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

didn't work

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Giants!

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

That a cutter or a change? 83 and looks like it goes in a bit

I think Swish might be a real CF

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:20 PM CDT reply actions  

wow, excellent play by Swisher there. He got a very good jump.

by madvillian on Apr 5, 2008 4:20 PM CDT reply actions  

i still think he's fine out there

with his bat, he makes up for it, if he even is below average. better than the other options.

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's been breaking back on everything

in these first few games.

It was good play, right over his head. The bigger test will be to see if he adjusts to get good breaks like that on balls hit in front of him as well.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 5, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

right over the head...

is IMO the hardest to catch. Open up your hips the wrong way and you're screwed. It's easy to look good in big outfields sometimes, but I thought that was a pretty tough play that he made look pretty routine.

by madvillian on Apr 5, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's somethng the fielding metrics don't do right?

Account for the value of the balls caught or not caught? Probably wouldn't be that hard to incorporate either. Based on balls with the same approximate velo, angle and park, what were the results of those batted balls.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mr. 290 OBP is a tough out

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

This commercial is speaking to my soul

thanks iPhone!

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Above...

I was in no way trying to underscore the amazing throw by Quentin. That's why the subject line said "amazing throw".

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 5, 2008 4:23 PM CDT reply actions  

you fence sitter!

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

you added a qualifier to "amazing throw"

intent or not, you don't add qualifiers if you don't want to do that.

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Point being...

nobody but me mentioned that it shouldn't have even been an out.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 5, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because it wouldn't have mattered either way...

The point is that Quentin has an extremely strong and accurate arm.

by SSH2005 on Apr 5, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

uh huh

why is it that quentin and dye can't switch? but i digress.

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fucking tedious.

No wonder this place is getting 500 comments for every game. I walk over type up something quick to point out that dude shouldn't've been out despite an amazing throw, and this is what happens. Stop being so fucking tedious. AMAZING THROW. Jesus.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 5, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

why would you want a diuretic in your system when you've got 500 laps in front of you?

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:24 PM CDT reply actions  

it's not like they can't pee

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have never ever considered this aspect of racing before

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

worried about the vaunted tigers pen?

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

wasn't he on mescaline when he did that?

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought it was acid.

I guess it might've been mescaline, I don't know.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 5, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha

I remember when Alverez came over and pitched that 5BB no hitter in his first start with the Sox.

by madvillian on Apr 5, 2008 4:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I think

A.J. Burnett had 9 or 10 walks in his no-no.

by Ryno on Apr 5, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bonds' BB record in jeopardy.

Swisher really DOES bring the excitement

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 5, 2008 4:28 PM CDT reply actions  

perhaps

Swisher can lead by example and show this team that having good place discpline and walking is a good thing.

by madvillian on Apr 5, 2008 4:28 PM CDT reply actions  

NICE!

Thome hits an excuse me oppo that he got on the barrell.

by madvillian on Apr 5, 2008 4:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Grilli Grilli Grilli!

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:31 PM CDT reply actions  

thome is really fucking with us

"i should sit against lefites, huh. shows what you putzes know."

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:31 PM CDT reply actions  

seriously. What's he slugging against LHP so far? Like.550?

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Predictions.

How many more will the Sox score here - 2nd and 3rd, no outs?

'08-to-date --- 1 triple to RF against the Sox.

by ballyb on Apr 5, 2008 4:32 PM CDT reply actions  

1

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

they'll walk paulie

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not often...

that a pitcher who's given up one hit through 5+ gets pulled.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 5, 2008 4:33 PM CDT reply actions  

look at the pitch count, though

and obviously the walks. he's looked like shit and has gotten real, real lucky.

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

could easily be 5-3 now

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

get the sure out

they've got a lead. and he's moving away from the plate so the throw is more difficult. better to get an out instead of throwing it away.

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

spcially since they don't cede the lead if it scores

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

alright

productive out at least

by madvillian on Apr 5, 2008 4:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Getting to their bullpen first is a big win

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:36 PM CDT reply actions  

is it really first?

we're very likely to see our pen in the bottom half. though their pen seems more suspect than ours.

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

some of the talk was maybe for real

obviously swish helps but i know how our guys would have looked against willis last year. hope it holds up.

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

hahah

The Tigers' bullpen is just horrible right now with no rodney and no zumaya. Come on Carlos!

by madvillian on Apr 5, 2008 4:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Stone earlier.

"Like I always say, you walk 7 batters and they're going to score a run."

Ha Ha.

'08-to-date --- 1 triple to RF against the Sox.

by ballyb on Apr 5, 2008 4:37 PM CDT reply actions  

fucking love quentin

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:38 PM CDT reply actions  

i've decided

new mancrush.

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I call no bitch.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

no question

even the sox might feel the same way. house organ scott merkin was on the score before the game saying jerry owens has gone from being guaranteed a starting spot when he comes back to just being in the outfield mix.

by Ryno on Apr 5, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

really? That's so reassuring to hear.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

MEAT

thome is made of meat

by thecip on Apr 5, 2008 4:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Thom Brennaman loves Quentin.

and so do I. Q-dog can't lose his starting job to fucking Owens. No way.

by SSH2005 on Apr 5, 2008 4:39 PM CDT reply actions  

owens should be the furthest thing from everyone's mind at this point

BA + quentin >>>> owens + quentin. playing owens more than sparingly is right up there with carrying masset over wasserman.

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow

tigers just giving it to us. Great job by quentin, great job going right back up the middle.

by madvillian on Apr 5, 2008 4:39 PM CDT reply actions  

with this game

CQ just might have punched BA's ticket to AAA

by BustedFlush on Apr 5, 2008 4:39 PM CDT reply actions  

hopefully it's alexei's

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

It'll be Anderson.

if the Sox had any interest in keeping Anderson up, he'd have gotten a plate appearance by now.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 5, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

not sure about that

i thought he'd be used almost exclusively in a defensive and PR role. probably a 50/50, though.

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

BA's value is as a defensive replacement

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

hopefully

Quentin has punched his way into everday LF for the foreseeable future.

Nice! Beautiful inning here.

by madvillian on Apr 5, 2008 4:40 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm saying it now,

the '08 Tigers will be the '07 Sox.

by onthemark12 on Apr 5, 2008 4:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Nah

They won't have the worst offense in the league, I'd be shocked if they finished anything less middle of the road in RS.

by madvillian on Apr 5, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

bullpen

sure looks familiar though

by Ryno on Apr 5, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm talking about perhaps being the most underachieving team in baseball

Not that they won't be good, but not nearly as good as they should be. And I'm going to chalk it up more to injuries and the bullpen than anything else. I agree, they won't come anywhere near struggling as much as we did last year.

by onthemark12 on Apr 5, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

depth and replacement level PA/IP are going to get to them on such an old team

but Dombrowski made the right move. It was now or never for this team.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think that is an exaggeration

but i think the that the people who were calling them a lock are probably seeing questions mount.

by MarketMaker on Apr 5, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stone talking about when Owens come back.

"Quentin doesn't want to be the one sent down."

'08-to-date --- 1 triple to RF against the Sox.

by ballyb on Apr 5, 2008 4:40 PM CDT reply actions  

fuck owens

Owens has no place on this team right now. BA provides a better 4th outfield option because he can actually play a good CF. If Carlos goes down for Owens I might just give up on this team.

by madvillian on Apr 5, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

relax, slugger

Q won't be going anywhere if he hits like this.

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

we kinda fear/loathe JO round these parts I'd say

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's fine

but Q is pretty obviously not on the short list to go down.

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would have sat Ozuna down there

the lefty has been chased. Time to get Ramirez some ABs and PT at 2B

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 5, 2008 4:41 PM CDT reply actions  

he and AJ should be in

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pierzynski needs...

a day off now and again. Catchers need at least one day off a week.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 5, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

so last tuesday and next tuesday aren't enough?

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

i would give AJ a full day of rest

maybe i'm being irrationally confident, but i think we'll tack on a few more and the pen is looking good.

by Ryno on Apr 5, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

i would have released ozuna there

but i digress.

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

I've seen guys when I was playing in college get pulled in the middle of an inning, but christ that would add a whole new level!

"ozuna, your'e DFA'ed! Hit the showers and pack your bags! NO, check that, just pack.

Wow, who is this guy on the mound...

by madvillian on Apr 5, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

if anyone would do it

it's ozzie and KW. though not with ozuna of course.

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rauch and Tracey were close

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

nah

guys with options like that wouldn't get released. there have been a few other players, though, that i could have seen it happening to.

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's just how pissed Ozzie was

did we get anyone decent for Rauch? Sure could have used him last year

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

I love Cabrera but he is clearly pressing in his new home. He'll end up with his usual OPS+ of around 135 by the end of the year but it's sure nice to have him struggling early on against the Sox.

by madvillian on Apr 5, 2008 4:45 PM CDT reply actions  

I was about to argue with you here

when I realized you were talking about the fat one.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 5, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's swinging at a lot of bad breaking balls

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gavin takes the long half-inning well.

That was nice to see.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 5, 2008 4:47 PM CDT reply actions  

How far below replacement level do we think Toby will be this year?

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:51 PM CDT reply actions  

i think

he's going to get released. but -7 before that.

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cole perhaps. He's at AA right? Probably Phillips though.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's the obvious option

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me!

Prove me wrong!

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

because you think javy is the bestest thing ever?

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

speculation!

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

interesting stat

no team in the history of baseball started the season 0-4 and went on to win the world series

by The Scoper on Apr 5, 2008 4:55 PM CDT reply actions  

what the hell is up with Inge today

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 4:58 PM CDT reply actions  

WTF

Where's Jerry?

'08-to-date --- 1 triple to RF against the Sox.

by ballyb on Apr 5, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

As Larry was saying,

that play CQ made is going to keep runners in check for awhile.

by onthemark12 on Apr 5, 2008 5:00 PM CDT reply actions  

video of that throw

will be on the screen of every coach in baseball now.

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico."

by larry on Apr 5, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

NEW THREAD IS UP

thanks Wiz...I'm at the iMac making this comment cuz the iPhone just lost capacity

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 5, 2008 5:03 PM CDT reply actions  

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