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Crede's Slam Lifts Streaking Sox

In what has already become something of a trend here in the early season, I'll open this recap with another It's Not 2007 Anymore type factoid. Today's: The White Sox 5-game winning streak is their longest since a similar 5-game streak August 10-14, 2006, which also included a 3-game sweep of Detroit.

That 5-game streak put the Sox 25 games over .500, and still 5.5 games back of the division leading Tigers, so I won't get too far ahead of myself here. Three games above .500 is a whole lot better than three games under, but even the '07 Sox managed to stay sufficiently afloat at four games over until Memorial Day.

When Tango came to us asking for help with his Clutch Project, I openly wondered how the rest of you would rate the post-surgery Joe Crede. There was little doubt in my mind that pre-surgery Crede would have been the player most SSSers wanted at the plate with the game on the line. A poor spring erased my optimism regarding Crede's return such that I voted him among the Sox hitters I wanted at the plate, though not necessarily the hitter; so I wondered how that spring effected the rest of you. Turns out Crede did end up being the Sox choice for Tango's Clutch Project.

Crede may have answered some of his doubters with a 2-out grand slam off of one of the toughest right-handed relievers in baseball for his second late-inning, go-ahead homer in a week.

In truth, Crede hasn't been swinging the bat well. His doubters, myself included, have noted Crede's lack of consistently hard contact thus far, including 8 pop-ups in the first 7 games. His at-bats certainly don't look like those of a batter who currently owns a 1.100 OPS. But we'll certainly take 'em. Being a supporter and a doubter is not mutually exclusive.

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Continuing a theme from last night, the Sox lineup just feels so much better with Nick Swisher and Carlos Quentin in the outfield.

I know Pierzynski isn't going to OPS 1.400 for the rest of the season, nor is Crede going to 1.100, or JD 1.250, or Q nearly 1.000. I also know that Paul Konerko and Jim Thome aren't going to perform as poorly over the whole season as they have to start the year. The additions of Swisher and Quentin have made a huge difference to the Sox lineup, as evidenced by their ability to score runs in bunches -- second straight game with a 5-run inning -- without the need to over-rely on Thome and Konerko.

Ozzie has said that he intends to leadoff Swisher "for the foreseeable future."

"You have a leadoff hitter who can run, that's a plus," Guillen said. "But to be a leadoff hitter, you've got to get on base. You can't steal first.

"I'd rather be a guy who gets on base. [Swisher is] hitting [.261] and all of a sudden he gets on base six times in a row by walks, and we need people on base when you have [ Orlando] Cabrera and [ Jim] Thome behind you. You get on base, you're going to score a lot of runs."

Sounds good to me. While batting Swisher first is unconventional, and might waste a bit of his slugging ability, it's certainly a step up from what we've had since Ray Durham left town. It also seems to indicate that he's looking at the Swisher-Quentin tandem as our longer-term starters in the outfield, even if Jerry Owens were to return fully healthy. And that's the biggest benefit of Swisher leading off; the lineup is far more likely to contain Carlos Quentin.

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On the mound, Javier Vazquez had something of a bizzaro-2006 outing. He struggled with command and looked to be just one pitch away from giving up a big inning in the early going, then retired the last 10 batters he faced with greatest of ease in the 5th, 6th, and 7th.

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"Being a supporter and a doubter is not mutually exclusive."

There's one guy who would disagree with that assessment and he's living upstairs. A Uribe homer here extends the lead to five.

by Sox Machine on Apr 7, 2008 8:11 PM CDT   0 recs

hey man the facial hair post was hilarious

linebrink really looked right with the mutton chops. seriously, like he'd been missing them all along.

by MarketMaker on Apr 7, 2008 9:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Couple (two) of my own notes

-The string of at-bats against Neshek by Dye, Quentin and Crede were awesome -- Dye with his neat little poke into CF on an off-speed pitch on the outside corner; Quentin pulled a similar pitch that hung in the bottom of the zone for a single; and, of course, Crede's culminating grand-slam.

-Vazquez looked pretty bad, early -- he just looked very uncomfortable. His command wasn't very good. I think Minny got a lot of good pitches to hit today. That being said, you're correct in how easy he was able to mow down the Twinkie hitters in those final three innings.

by CWSKeith on Apr 7, 2008 8:54 PM CDT   0 recs

It's a good time to get hot

This is a tough part of the schedule for the Sox, so having the offense get out of the gates hitting on all cylinders is huge. Funny how the cold weather isn't an issue this year isn't it? We're catching Detroit at the right time too, we get them again this weekend - we're hot and they're struggling.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 7, 2008 9:06 PM CDT   0 recs

with floyd, buehrle, vazquez.

i'm likin' that.

Just because you are a character doesn't mean you have character.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 7, 2008 9:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm likin not having Erstad or Owens on top of the lineup too

There's the obligatory daily dose of Erstad, hah!

by ChicagoPete on Apr 7, 2008 9:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm not sure who else looked through the aforementioned clutch project

but did you notice Erstad was the fan choice for Houston? I know they removed some of their better choices, but come on, who thinks that guy is clutch? And have they seen him play in the last few years? I know "clutch" has a lot of opinion in it, and the choices can be limited, but Erstad? Really? Boo!! Boo!!

by MarketMaker on Apr 7, 2008 9:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This is the kind of start

you haveto have in this division. The one thing that sticks out to me for te first time in a year and a half. Is that they're having FUN!

by SoxfaninAZ on Apr 7, 2008 10:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This Team Seems Watchable

Last year's version of the Sox was unbearable to watch unless one approached the spectacle as they might the macabre nature of a train wreck in slow motion.

So far, in 2008, the team is a pleasure to watch. Aside for some sloppy defense, the Sox look relatively more crisp thus far than their opponents. I know it's still early - we aren't even 1/20th of the way through the season yet - but Quentin's ascension, Crede's comeback, Swisher's plate discipline, and the bullpen (wow, did I just type that?) look like they will be enjoyable to follow and root for.

Hedge Fund Crash. Get bent.

by explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit on Apr 7, 2008 9:08 PM CDT   0 recs

OT - But is this the dullest NCAA tourney ever or what?

It's halftime but I'm ready to blow off the second half, catching up on SSS has been more interesting than this game.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 7, 2008 9:28 PM CDT   0 recs

What?

Two Chicago point guards and you want to switch off the box? Plus you don't see the kind of athleticism you do on Kansas everyday...

by hitlesswonder on Apr 7, 2008 9:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

memphis is pretty athletic as well.

Just because you are a character doesn't mean you have character.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 7, 2008 9:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

are you kidding?

I've got 110 dollars for 2nd place in my pool if KU wins so I'm into it for sure. Also, these are two exciting and athletic teams! It's been a very exciting final 4 and final.

by madvillian on Apr 7, 2008 9:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I've enjoyed this whole game despite no rooting interest

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 7, 2008 10:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

knock on memphis

all year was FT shooting and look what loses them the game. CDR missing 3 in a row in the last minute.

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Apr 7, 2008 10:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

4 of their last 5 in regulation. unreal.

Just because you are a character doesn't mean you have character.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 7, 2008 10:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

still a super clutch shot by chalmers.

the question is why didn't memphis foul before kansas got a shot off. then they need to make the first, miss the second, get the board, and hit a 2 to tie, 3 to win.

Just because you are a character doesn't mean you have character.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 7, 2008 11:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

what lost the game for Memphis

was that Calipari didn't have his team foul with 10 seconds left and up by 3. What an idiot.

Show mercy. I get to watch the Rangers.

by Tim from Texas on Apr 8, 2008 3:16 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What a horrible way to lose the game

Blowing the national championship when you're up by 9 with 2 minutes to go, that was a sloppy mess down the stretch.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 8, 2008 6:32 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

calipari blew it

tell your players to foul you dumbass

what was he telling them on the timeout with 0:10 left?

by The Wizard on Apr 8, 2008 1:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's early...

But you have to commend KW for acquiring Swisher and Quentin. Both guys look like they work the count and get on-base which is exactly what the Sox offense needed (less outs!). I don't know if Quentin can keep it up but I hope so. The lineup is so much better when the Sox aren't punting offensively in LF and CF.

by hitlesswonder on Apr 7, 2008 9:34 PM CDT   0 recs

nice veiled erstad reference. ;-)

Just because you are a character doesn't mean you have character.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 7, 2008 9:36 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i think larry beat you to it. get used to that...we all are.

Just because you are a character doesn't mean you have character.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 7, 2008 9:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

but this is a fully fleshed out article

Larry linked a throwaway line atop a lineup post, which was the only thing available at the time. Gonzo couldn't keep the info flowin fast enough for us

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 7, 2008 9:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Updated the post

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 7, 2008 10:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow

I'm surprised. Sure, he's said things before about OBP but I think he means it now. I think it's a good move, especially since it seems to foretell more Quentin

by hitlesswonder on Apr 7, 2008 10:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

swish

leads the mlb in walks

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Apr 7, 2008 10:06 PM CDT   0 recs

came across this at twinkie town(twins sb nation)

The Thome Walk

I didn't really think anything of the at-bat at the time, though I do remember noticing a pitch called a ball that seemed to be called a strike earlier. that said, I might have argued that it was a ball earlier(like in PK's AB) and not a strike now, but i guess that is how you know i'm a sox fan and they are twins fans.

by MarketMaker on Apr 7, 2008 11:06 PM CDT   0 recs

wasn't sure if that was fanshot or fanpost worthy

then i saw the 'owens mistake' post and immediatelyt regretted shooting my wad in here.

by MarketMaker on Apr 7, 2008 11:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sox lead MLB in OBP (.372) and SLG (.494).

'08-to-date --- 1 triple to RF against the Sox.

by ballyb on Apr 7, 2008 11:15 PM CDT   0 recs

The area

that looks troublesome right now is outfield defense. Quentin is a butcher out there, and his hypodermic buddy Swisher isn't much better. BA Is not going to get enough playing time to contribute in the field in center.

Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying this run as much as anyone, but there are reasons for concern.

by sti3 on Apr 7, 2008 11:33 PM CDT   0 recs

Q is a butcher?

Hypodermic buddy?

Sounds like you're fishing

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 7, 2008 11:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hard to argue with evidence like that

Q has always been regarded as a plus defensive OF in a corner, but you've pretty much dispelled that myth with your cogent analysis and sound statistics. Bravo.

by hitlesswonder on Apr 7, 2008 11:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Q a butcher?

do you mean JD?

by The Wizard on Apr 8, 2008 1:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

outfield defense

is not a concern at all. Quentin had a brain fart in a the late innings of a massacre. He has a cannon for an arm and runs well. Nothing wrong with his defense. And shit, he can hit and run too.

by madvillian on Apr 8, 2008 12:02 AM CDT   0 recs

Cannons don't slump

"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'

by Hazymania on Apr 8, 2008 12:07 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

hilarious!

-Jeeves Life in the Cell

by jeeves on Apr 8, 2008 12:23 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

So you're on record

for wanting Quentin in left and Swisher in center, even though the A's didn't see fit to play him there more than 25% of their games or so?

by sti3 on Apr 8, 2008 9:25 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The A's had a centerfielder on their team last year that could hit worth a crap

Posting this reply probably isn't worth my time, but here goes nothing.

This year the White Sox have Andersen, yet to prove he can hit consistently in the show, and Owens is hurt. Kotsay is better than Andersen or Owens when he's healthy, so it made sense for the A's to get his bat into the lineup whenever possible. When Kotsay went down last year, Swisher did a serviceable job in CF.

So if we have someone who can hit and does a decent job in the field, why are we going to replace him with someone who can't hit as well when chances are they will only catch one more ball / prevent an extra base every 2 or 3 games?

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

by rhythm on Apr 8, 2008 1:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

How hard was Bobby throwing?

Was at the game...could not locate a radar reading...seemed like he wasn't throwing hard at all.

by stanchar on Apr 8, 2008 12:07 AM CDT   0 recs

Oh sorry

My eyes must be defective--I didn't see Carlos Q. butcher easy popups the only two games I've watched!

MarketMaker is of course right--if their hitting holds up at anything near their current pace, the crap defense will be more than offset.

As for needles, I'm just calling it like I perceive it. Swisher and Quentin are physically freakish.

by sti3 on Apr 8, 2008 12:11 AM CDT   0 recs

yes and you're definitely qualified to speak to

steroid use no one else seems to think enough to make a claim about. As for defense, brah, you don't suppose we ought to get a decent sample before we start ringing the alarm bell over defense that, again, no one else thinks to be brutal. It must be tough being an iconoclast.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 8, 2008 2:05 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ugh.....what a blatantly retarded comment.

Have you noticed that 90% of all professional athletes are "physically freakish?" That's why you and I don't play in the MLB, NFL or NBA.

"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca

by BoKnows on Apr 8, 2008 9:06 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i'd probably put that percentage at 100%

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 8, 2008 9:10 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What about the David Ecksteins of the sporting world?

"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca

by BoKnows on Apr 8, 2008 9:18 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Maddux, Gio, etc

Middle IF and pitchers might be a bit more physically similar to John Q. Public, but by and large a pro athlete is more of a physical specimen than the average Joe.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 8, 2008 9:23 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

what percentage of people do you think can hit major league pitching?

i know you're probably at least half-joking but eckstein is an average major league baseball player. i'm not sure what percentage of one percent you would ascibe "freak" to, but i think i can safely say a guy who has played as well as eckstein has over a number of years is in it.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 8, 2008 9:23 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

and i also realize

part of the mystique surrounding eckstein is that he's billed as "an average guy" who "works hard" and, thus, "made it." implicit in that is that average joe out there can, too. bullshit. no, average guy can't. eckstein is a physical freak. he has better hand eye coordination than just about everyone in the world. he's faster than you. he's stronger than you. he's far more physically freakish than you.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 8, 2008 9:27 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Speak for your self

Hes not faster than me.

by Tdogg on Apr 8, 2008 9:32 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you haven't seen my 40

"blazing," said a lucky passerby. "sheeeeeit," said another.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 8, 2008 2:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Were you in Annapolis?

I think I might know who the second guy is.

by CatBrains on Apr 8, 2008 2:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

he had a bag full of money and seemed somewhat unscrupulous

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 8, 2008 4:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I was "full" joking. Every guy in pro sports is a physcially talented freak.

In MLB, I meant that you could make the assumption that there are about 90% (random number) that are much larger and stronger than the average Joe.

The other 10% are probably closer to the average in stature, but they are obviously physically gifted in other ways like hand-eye coordination, speed, or can throw a 90 mph fastball.

"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca

by BoKnows on Apr 8, 2008 9:30 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

by the way

your eyes are defective. prior to your two comments on this thread, your last comment was "Mackowiak is serviceable out there."

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 8, 2008 9:12 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

haha nice!

I've gotten a new Rx since then though I swear!

by sti3 on Apr 8, 2008 9:19 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I like how you admit that you've only watched two games...

and think you are qualified to call Carlos Quentin a butcher defensively. Two games is a great sample size, dude.

by SSH2005 on Apr 8, 2008 10:04 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

They were

both very bad plays. Did you see them?

by sti3 on Apr 8, 2008 10:54 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well I guess

That you think Crede sucks at defense also because he can't make throws to first.

by southsideirish71 on Apr 8, 2008 11:00 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's a physical limitation.

The plays I saw Quentin make were bonehead mistakes of the kind that I haven't seen BA and Dye make nearly as much.

Small sample size, yes. I am just saying that I am personally troubled by our defensive OF futures. Of course if we score 7 runs per game it's probably irrelevant.

by sti3 on Apr 8, 2008 12:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you're right

dye usually makes sure he takes out another fielder before dropping the ball.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 8, 2008 1:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL!

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

by rhythm on Apr 8, 2008 1:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL

I needed a good laugh this morning. Swisher and Quentin are juicing? OK.

Colin you don't read mgoblog do you? He had a whole post about Sparty the other day and he must have addressed Sparty as "brah" 10 or so times. Hilarious.

by madvillian on Apr 8, 2008 9:16 AM CDT   0 recs

killed me

i love Brian. he's basically awesome.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 8, 2008 2:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

also

you a michigan fan/grad? or just reading more or less the best team specific college football blog out there?

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 8, 2008 2:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Michigan native and UM fan since birth

Didn't go to UM (K College '05), but an avid reader of MGOBLOG. Brian is great. As a UM fan it's nice having possibly the best team specific blog on the net.

by madvillian on Apr 8, 2008 2:26 PM CDT