Game 39: White Sox (18-19) @ Angels (23-17)
by The Wizard on May 13, 2008 8:00 PM CDT
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PrintChicago White Sox at Los Angeles Angels, May 13, 2008 9:05 PM CDT
John Danks (LHP) vs. Jered Weaver (RHP)
Time: 9:05 p.m. CT, TV: WCIU, Radio: WSCR AM-670 (B-R preview, Live Boxscore; 2007 MLB Gameday; 2008 MLB Gameday)
GO SOX!
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Weaver has already struck out more Sox in his career
Fidrych vs. Sox: 2-1, 2.60 ERA, 27.2 IP, 29 H, 4 BB, 3 K.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
after that first inning
it might time to start putting him in the same category as Johan Santana…. Why show up?
1 run in 13 innings, 10 hits, 15:1 K/BB ratio
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And we're off!
First pitch at 7:0 something, a fast ball for a called strike on O-Cab
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
This isn't going to be too tough for Weaver...
First three guys in our lineup trying to hit a 5-run homer—one sky-high popup and two strikeouts.
The same reason that Cabrera is leading off for us
Scoscia and Ozzie are two of the brightest in the game…
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Those were good times
I remember Halos Heaven calling my paper a rag for reporting it.
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Sox Machine
Hawk sounding Suessian about Guerrero
“He can hit it high and low, from his eyes to his toes. “
He can hit it in a box, he can hit it with a fox.
yeah, it's a local thing
there’s a whole poem and shit. though i think it’s “from his nose to his toes”, however.
by thatshortkid on May 13, 2008 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Not sure if its the same
but there is some kids song, Head, shoulders, knees and toes or something. Fox had a little skit on it they ran a few times over the last few years.
I can't hear the name Weaver without thinking of UHF
“OK Weaver, listen carefully. You can hold on to your red snapper, or you can go for what’s in the box!”
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Sox Machine
Walker is going to petition the league
1.) Changeups should be outlawed. The pitch itself is evil, and scares the bats.
2.) Pitchers must challenge hitters over the middle of the plate. If they go low and away a run goes up on the board for your team.
3.) If a ball is hit super high, it counts as a home run. We have figured that Crede hit 98 home runs in 05 alone.
4.) Right field is out.
by southsideirish71 on May 13, 2008 9:39 PM CDT reply actions
The top of the 1st inning was enough evidence of why Walker should be fired...
Three guys, each trying to park a 5-run homer.
Well Swish and Cabrera
Forgot completely how to hit under Walkers watch.
by southsideirish71 on May 13, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
The harder you swing, the longer the bat.
The longer the bat, the more plate you cover.
It makes perfect sense.
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Sox Machine
Sounds like you are creating Massett
I suspect this is what NASA’s announcement is about tomorrow
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Woo-hoo
Way to break up the perfect game
“The San Gabriel mountains are the only place you can see a national league park and an american league park” You know, unless you vising one of many skyscrapers in Chicago
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Wow, who said that?
I’m fairly certain you can see both parks in the Bay Area as well as NYC from various vantage points as well.
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
Hawk said it
but he was fed it by somebody else in his ear, he referenced them by name, but I don’t remember…
He also might have said the word “Mountians” again, making the statement true, I think
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At least these strikeouts are running up his pitch count
Weaver wasn’t able to make it passed the 6th in his two previous starts against he Sox, and it wasn’t because he was getting hit… it had to do with his pitch count… 107 and 114
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Nothing like watching your lineup get owned...
by a pitcher that has been getting shellacked by the rest of baseball.
Well the powerhouse offense in Kansas City
Shellacked him for 8 runs over 3 1/3.
But Hawk tells us, his velocity is up. That and the fact that our team doesn’t adjust to low and away. Opposing pitching coaches must snicker when they prepare for our team. Pitch to one spot and put it on autopilot.
by southsideirish71 on May 13, 2008 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Vlad's so strong
He fouls one off his foot to the shortstop.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
maybe we can score some runs too
or am I asking too much?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
DP...
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
just barely.
looked lackadaisical. The white sox lack the fierce urgency of now.
"Walkie, you're doing a heck of a job."
no mike rouse!
The Phillies received IF Mike Rouse from the Chicago White Sox to complete the May 7 trade for IF Gookie Dawkins. Rouse joined Lehigh Valley (AAA) on May 9.http://www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/?id=3640108
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Based on names alone
We won it handily.
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Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on May 13, 2008 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Why do teams even make stupid little small trades like this?
Did the Knights need a SS badly or something?
I wonder if the sox actually spend time
Looking at opposition pitching charts and how they attack our hitters. Its not exactly a secret. Low and away, put it on auto. One 3-2, throw a change. On 0-2 or 1-2 throw into the dirt.
by southsideirish71 on May 13, 2008 10:05 PM CDT reply actions
Woo-hoo
our second baserunner…. and we’ve run his pitch count up to 72 (18/inning)
/small victories
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Hawk and DJ
The hitting coach is the hardest thing to do in baseball. If you tell the hitters what to do, like move up on the plate. None of them will listen.
Why exactly are we paying Walk then. Fire him, and buy more twinkies for Juan.
by southsideirish71 on May 13, 2008 10:13 PM CDT reply actions
a hit!!!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
why jim, why?
I hate this guy…
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
What did the Sox feed's gun say?
Crede just swung through an 86 m.p.h. fastball?
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Sox Machine
Obviously its because he doesn't listen to the hitting coach
That’s why teams should have 2 hitting coaches
I thought thats why Gellinger was on the payroll
I mean he really doesnt teach hitting, and showing videos of home runs may make the hitter feel good but hardly breaks down their swing.
by southsideirish71 on May 13, 2008 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
"OK -- now let's slow it down."
“It’s a fastball and BOOM!”
(rewinds—plays)
“BOOM! Look how far it went!”
(rewinding)
“And now the home run’s going backwards, oh noooooo!”
(lots of giggling)
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by Sox Machine on May 13, 2008 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Got me - just the crap Hawk and DJ are spewing
Apparently they were told to build the case for Greg.
I love the ambiguity of the argument...
“It’s not Walker’s fault that the offense sucks.”
“We have a lineup full of veterans and they should know what to do at the plate.”
So what do we need Walker for again?
Don't forget
Vets know how to mininmize these issues. They cut down the slumps were as the younger players fall into these slumps for longer periods
I guess the lineup is back to being unlucky again...
I think it’s time to admit that this offense just sucks.
There was no bad pitch
He threw Matthews an 0-2 fastball off the plate, as in not a strike, that he poked into right field… (Uribe was playing him up the middle, so he obviously didn’t have a read on the pitch/location)
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It was high and it was straight and it wasn't that far off the plate...
I know one thing—our lineup would never think to slap that pitch to RF.
True - especially considering the pressure of knowing what the offense will do
This has got to be wearing on these guys
Good rebound
He needed a good outing, because these contact/speed teams seem to wear him down.
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by Sox Machine on May 13, 2008 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
FSN West just ran a stat
Cabrera reached base 63 straight games with the Angels, and only Ted Williams and Joe DiMaggio have longer streaks.
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Sox Machine
Just offsetting that record with
trying to get 65 games without reaching a base. Its all about goals and records for some of these guys.
Spoke too soon
at 101 the manager whose name I can’t spell will send him back out there
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Everbody talks about how smart he is
But nobody talks about how brave he is, recovering from radiation poisoning.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on May 13, 2008 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's see if Danks pays attention to Anderson
Two straight uncontested steals after two-out singles, if I’m remembering right.
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Sox Machine
haven't all the steals been on off-speed stuff?
including the last one, a looping 79mph curve?
by thatshortkid on May 13, 2008 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
He knew -
just didn’t feel there was any point in leaving the field. By the time he gets to the dugout he has to walk back
C'mon guys...
...there are only four-out innings when Buehrle’s on the mound.
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Sox Machine
Not even the chair.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on May 13, 2008 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Our "unlucky" lineup...
has dropped Jered Weaver’s ERA from 5.59 to 4.86. That’s some talent right there.
No significant splits
.804 vs. lefties, .802 vs. righties.
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by Sox Machine on May 13, 2008 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
What is that strange thing that batter did
it looked like he was protecting the plate and just hitting to the opposite field. That is so strange an un-conventional. It seems to defy all logic and reason. Is that allowed?
Weird, huh?
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by Sox Machine on May 13, 2008 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Hawk is going to blame the ump now for the eventual run scoring...
because he stopped Danks mid-pitch.
The nice thing about the Sox is I expect them to lose this game by 5 runs
The don’t leave much drama after the starter leaves
The insult to this will be when KW and company
Cheap it up on the draft. Get us a grinder instead of a stud.
by southsideirish71 on May 13, 2008 11:03 PM CDT reply actions
He pitched his ass off
Too bad he ended up giving up 3 earned runs
by hitlesswonder on May 13, 2008 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
On the bright side
when Dotel gives up the bases clearing double, Danks will sitll be able to claim a quality start
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Leave him in
You can’t think that the guy you’re bringing in is better than Danks
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Sigh, another wasted performance by a starter...
Over/under on inherited runners allowed in this inning?
I'm going to go out on a limb
And say Dotel gets out of this unscathed. What the hell.
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Sox Machine
I predict a 6 run inning
Including a Hunter homerun just to generate some good “one that got away” stories
by hitlesswonder on May 13, 2008 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Just wanted to help the ballclub.
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by Sox Machine on May 13, 2008 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
There's one...
Vlad vs. Dotel—6-for-19, 2 2B, 1 3B, 1 HR.
But it’s not like there’s a silver bullet here.
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Sox Machine
And A.J. blocked it.
Dotel earned his money there.
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by Sox Machine on May 13, 2008 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
He has definitely been earning his money lately...
Dotel’s strikeout numbers are ridiculous. 25 K’s in 16 IP.
Dotel has been nasty lately
In his last 8 outings, he’s pitched 9.1 innings, alllowed 5 hits, 2 walks, and struck out 16
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See - thats why hits are over-rated
All those hits and what do they have to show for it – the same as we have
Can't do anything with that pitch
But it’s never fun to follow up awesome relief work by looking at three strikes.
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Sox Machine
The bases are *spotless*
But slapping it the other way… novel concept.
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Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on May 13, 2008 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
You know it's an awful nickname
When my mom beat him to it.
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by Sox Machine on May 13, 2008 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
he tried 3 times
must have been sleeping on that other pitch…
2 outs with one swing though… so you know, he’s got that goin for him
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Not if you're already numb like I am.
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by Sox Machine on May 13, 2008 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Anderson didn't even bother to run
He plays outfield, poorly, and he thought that was a routine play
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Thornton did a good enough job.
Poor, poor bastards.
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Sox Machine
And for all his good work...
...Dotel will get saddled with the loss.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
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by Sox Machine on May 13, 2008 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I said this before and I'll keep saying...
They need to fire Greg Walker. Two and 1/2 years of no hitting bullshit and this guy is still around! They didn’t keep Razor Shines around for God knows what, and they keep this fucking piece of shit around. I still remembered when he played for the Sox … He sucked then and he sucks now. My only problem with Ozzie is he is exactly like the Bush administration…Loyalty seems more important then logic. Fire this loser NOW!!!!!
My only problem with trading Garland was we got this loser for him....
Could have gotten more. But, I don’t blame Cabrera, I think Walker has done a lot to ruin him. Just look at Rowand’s numbers when he left.
But Rowand said...
“During the last couple of years, I learned a lot about myself and my swing,” said Rowand, who hit .309 in 2007, with 27 home runs, 45 doubles, 89 RBIs and 105 runs scored. “[In Chicago] I depended on [Walker] to watch and break down every one of my swings, and I leaned on him and depended on him too much, instead of learning a feel.
“Milt Thompson is Philadelphia’s hitting coach, and I have nothing bad to say about Milt whatsoever. But he doesn’t break down your swing mechanically the way that Walker does. He’s more of a feel guy than about mechanics with the swing.
“So it’s almost like I became my own hitting coach and had to make adjustments myself,” Rowand added. “I’m already out swinging right now. Two months have gone by, and normally when I start hitting, I feel like I don’t know what I’m doing. This year, I feel like I’m right there still.”
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Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on May 13, 2008 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I like how demonstrative F-Rod is
It’s not like you need the help from God against this team, Frankie.
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He's tahnkful he gets to pitch against them
by hitlesswonder on May 13, 2008 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I never thought of it that way.
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by Sox Machine on May 13, 2008 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Walker hasn't had a one-on-one with Quentin...
That’s why doesn’t suck as bad. Can you guys tell I really hate this guy? He was my least favorite Sox player growing up.
Walker?
He had a really nice looking swing. And couldn’t hit LHP IIRC.
by hitlesswonder on May 13, 2008 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Weaver sucks this year, but he found the secret to beating the Sox...
Throw the ball down the middle…they can’t hit for shit!
He's unclutch!
How many of those are LHP?
by hitlesswonder on May 13, 2008 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
He is against LHP
But Thome’s OPS is almost .800 and almost .100 points higher than Konerko’s if I’m reading the stats correctly.
by hitlesswonder on May 13, 2008 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Thome
I have more faith in Thome having a good year than Konerko. And if Thome were platooned or semi-platooned with a decent lefty-killer, he’d be a very useful player still.
You want to look at the Sox problems on offense? They have crap up the middle: OCab, Uribe, and Swisher are all below replacement level.my friend just made a good point...
Some bastard most of sold his soul to the devil in ‘05 for the rest of us to put up with this crap!
I wonder when Ozzie will realize that these lineup changes don't matter...
Ozzie said after the 2-0 loss that more changes were coming with the lineup on Wednesday. Things are getting desperate.
Unless we are adding Albert Pujols and A-Rod to the lineup, Ozzie may as well save his time and effort.
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