Sox Reach .500, In Case You Cared
A Jim Thome (!) RBI single in the top of the ninth plated AJ Pierzynski in what was seemingly the least likely way the Sox could have possibly won tonight's game. The Sox now mosey back into second place in the AL Central, 1.5 games back of the Wahoos. Tonight's game was one that most would have figured for a win, save for a lack of defense, and it seems like a minor miracle that the Sox pulled it out.
- Carlos Quentin is apparently human, after allowing a fly ball to drop right in front of him (and in front of Orlando Cabrera and Joe Crede) that led to the first two runs of the game. They went down as earned, but CQ, if no one else, should have taken charge on that fly ball.
- Speaking of Joe Crede, his defense nearly cost the Sox the game on a bobble that allowed the Angels to score their third run of the game. Brooks Robinson, indeed.
- AJ was once again impressive in the two hole, finishing with three hits - none more impressive than what should have been a leadoff single in the ninth. He pushed the issue with Reggie Willits and was able to stretch the single into a double. CQ nearly doubled off the wall - settling for moving AJ over - before Thome delivered two batters later. If nothing else, AJ is playing some of the smartest baseball on the team.
- Paul Konerko looked to be in a lot of pain throughout each of his at bats. He was icing his thumb in between innings and had a noticeable grimace after each swing of the bat. He could sit in favor of Brian Anderson (with Nick Swisher moving to first) if he really seems to be in as much pain as he's been showing. If a DL stint occurs, watch for Jerry Owens to get a call.
- Juan Uribe left the game with a pulled hammy, watch for the Cuban Missile to start at second tomorrow night.
- The pitching was stout once again. Javy Vazquez was able to work out of most of his jams, Matt Thornton got the one guy he was supposed to (though Crede had other plans), Ocatvio Dotel remained on fire, and Bobby Jenks had one of his more impressive 1-2-3 saves this year.
- The Cheat was benched tonight in order to rest up for interleague play.
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Konerko's in pain
Paul looks like he needs to hit the DL. He needs the break physically and mentally.
Uribe should be released in favor of Chris Getz. But hey, there will be termites and Juan Uribe on the White Sox when it’s all over.
by Daniel Berlyn on May 16, 2008 1:08 AM CDT 0 recs
getz
from rotoworld:
Triple-A Charlotte’s Chris Getz went 4-for-4 with a homer and a walk on Wednesday.
Getz is attempting to prove that he’s a viable alternative to Juan Uribe at second base for the White Sox. He’s currently hitting .298/.360/.484 with five homers in 124 at-bats. However, away from the hitter friendly environment in Charlotte, he’s batting .226/.314/.290 with no homers. May. 15 – 3:56 am et
sounds like pablo II
also:
Brandon Allen went 5-for-5 and hit for the cycle Wednesday for Single-A Winston Salem.
His extra hit was a double, so he had 12 total bases in the contest. The 22-year-old Allen is batting .305/.346/.594 with a 33/6 K/BB ratio in the Carolina League. He has about as much power potential as anyone left in the White Sox system, but he’s not going to make it unless he cuts back on the strikeouts. May. 15 – 3:25 am et
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
May 16, 2008 12:34 PM CDT
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aj has more than half the doubles(13) he's had in each of the last 3 seasons(24, 24, 21).
he also already has 10 walks. that might not seem like a lot, but consider the fact that his career high for walks in a season is 25 (2008). prior to that he had seasons of 22, 23, 19, 24, 13 and 16. that accounts for all of his full seasons in the majors.
i’ve heard mention of some different contacts aj has been wearing this season; and i think he was the one that got hawk raving about the nintendo ds. could these factors really be contributing to what i’m temporarily calling the “new aj”? i don’t know if this trend of great offensive output can continue, but aj seems like a different hitter these days.
and you know what else? many of us were probably surprised to see aj in the 2-hole in the lineup, but his current output is pretty nearly ideal for that spot in the order. so kudos to ozzie for seizing what might be a great opportunity. now if we can just get him to put swish back in the leadoff spot and drop ocab towards the bottom of the lineup i could be convinced that ozzie is starting to get the knack of this filling out the lineup business. good times!
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 16, 2008 1:45 AM CDT 0 recs
actually i'm gonna go out on a limb and call this fanpost worthy.
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on
May 16, 2008 1:47 AM CDT
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catchers in the 2 hole
so crazy it just might work. Turned around the 1983 team… ;)
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on
May 16, 2008 5:13 AM CDT
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He lost a lot of weight too
He’s in better shape then he usually is.. makes it a bit easier to stretch a single into a double, but he has been hitting the ball pretty good so far too.
by Grinder in Training on
May 16, 2008 7:33 AM CDT
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That's what I was going to note
AJ looks to be in excellent shape. He’s as slim as I’ve seen him since he joined the Sox.
by madvillian on
May 16, 2008 8:30 AM CDT
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AJ in the ninth
No doubt that his hustle won the game. Kudos to Thome (for getting the GWH) but AJ is still at third unless he turns the single into the double.
C'mon, Smokey! This isn't 'Nam, it's bowling. There are rules!
by thekever on
May 16, 2008 8:03 AM CDT
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So what's gotten into our Sox?
Konerko stealing night before last? Thomer driving in key runs? AJ with all-out hustle and heady play? Arethe boys waking up?
They’d better get it while they can. Summer gets hot and tiring. .500 looks pretty decent now, but our history of post-AS break play (until September, when Uribe heats up) ain’t too stellar the past few years. .500 will be hard to maintain if that’s as good as we get before then.
It is refreshing to read (haven’t seen the games – too old) about a sense of renewed professionalism from the team leaders. I wonder if the pitchers have had conversations with the position players about sharing the load.
Concerned about Crede’s defense. 8 errors is a lot already. Bring up Fields if he’s going to play a similar “D”.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 16, 2008 7:47 AM CDT 0 recs
AJ's hot bat
is such a bonus. His eventual “wearing down” in the later months of the summer always seem to coincide with the Sox post-AS malaise you mentioned.
Crede is in a full-on fielding slump. That boot last night was atrocious. It looks like his glove problems are in his head now, and he looked scared to screw up the play. Too bad Javy missed out on the win. Thornton did his job too.
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on
May 16, 2008 9:13 AM CDT
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Reasons for (my) optimism:
1. At the 1/4 mark of the season, I’m happy with .500. They only play 9 home games this month, and the home games they played in April were basically in winter weather. I know that sounds Walkerish, but I’m pretty sure the consensus here was the Cell would add OPS points to Swish (for sure) and Cabrera (probably). Some home, warm weather cooking couldn’t hurt PK or Thome either.
Yes, the downside is that our pitchers will give up more HR’s.
2. I said I’d be happy with a 4-6 Left Coast trip, and ecstatic with any more wins than that. I guess it’s possible SF could sweep, but…
3. Pitching, pitching, pitching.
"Lipstick traces on cigarettes can get you in trouble or remind you of the wonders of the night before."
by Chiburb on May 16, 2008 8:16 AM CDT 0 recs
Yep
I’m happy with .500 too and for those exact reasons. Plus, no one else is really running away with this division, even if the Indians do look stronger lately.
Optimist
by Peder on
May 16, 2008 9:56 AM CDT
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I see 90 degrees for tonight's game at SF
90, 87, 84 for fri, sat, sun
http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/mlb/result/?from=mlbopt1&query=SPORTS_TEAM_SCHEDULE&team=bebd
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
May 16, 2008 12:46 PM CDT
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record highs all over here this week.
"For those that don't understand stats... that ops is horrifying."
by Toonderstrook on
May 16, 2008 12:48 PM CDT
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walker is jumping with joy!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
May 16, 2008 12:50 PM CDT
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Lovely night in Anaheim...
...sitting a few rows behind the WS dugout, in my Obama t-shirt, surrounded by a sea of red. Thankfully there were enuf Sox fans nearby to blunt the Orange cty. faithful and that goddamn rally monkey. One observation -Ramirez appears so weak and twiggish his one batted ball looked like a 10-year old playing w/ daddy. Very happy to see Thome with the key hit - he was all smiles after the game, waving to Sox fans, slapping high fives.
by RoyEgan on May 16, 2008 8:27 AM CDT 0 recs
Re Ramirez.
WTF is this guy doing on the team?
He’s fast?
Pitching and defense.
by ballyb on
May 16, 2008 10:22 AM CDT
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Thome's clutch hit
He came through, but I still dont feel confident with him. Someone cited his woeful performance against relievers (~50% K rate). We’ll probably see him pinch-hitting in the 8th/9th 3 times this weekend.
During last night’s game, DJ talked over side-by-side Thome shots of him hitting a bomb and also hitting a popup to illustrate that his swing is the same in both. He stated that timing is the only issue. So basically, have no fear Sox fans, the only issue is timing, and even though its affecting PK, Swish, Cabrera, etc also, its minor.
The Sox have a fever, and the only prescription is more timing.
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on May 16, 2008 9:22 AM CDT 0 recs
he's going to start at least one game this weekend per ozzie (almost surely sunday)
"For those that don't understand stats... that ops is horrifying."
by Toonderstrook on
May 16, 2008 9:27 AM CDT
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not according to Ozzie last night
Thome to sit this weekend
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on
May 16, 2008 9:45 AM CDT
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Yep...
Ozzie just expects to use Thome as a pinch hitter. Also…
Richar update
Trainer Herm Schneider said second baseman Danny Richar is progressing well with the fractured first left rib that sidelined him most of spring training, and the Sox hope he will start a rehab assignment with Class AAA Charlotte by the end of the month.
by SSH2005 on
May 16, 2008 9:48 AM CDT
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thanks for the update!
"For those that don't understand stats... that ops is horrifying."
by Toonderstrook on
May 16, 2008 11:33 AM CDT
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Is there any significance
to “he will start a rehav assignment in AAA?” Perhaps I have the wrong perception of rehab assignments, but I normally take it to mean having a player play at a lower level to get back in the swing of things before getting called up to their appropriate level.
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on
May 16, 2008 6:58 PM CDT
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right
are you saying his appropriate level isn’t, you know, the major leagues?
by larry on
May 17, 2008 12:58 PM CDT
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Interleague Play Begins
• MLB.com Shop Interleague selections
• 2007 Interleague stats | Wins: AL 137, NL 115
White Sox are 104-89 -.539 since 1997 when IL began
2007 IL Sox 4-14 vs LA Angels and Tigers at 14-4 each
MLB.com has all the stats on Inter-league play
by floridajim on May 16, 2008 9:32 AM CDT 0 recs
Konerko's injury
Anyone know if Konerko’s injury is something that will get better with a week or two of rest, or is it just something that won’t go away until the end of the season?
If rest is an option I’d throw him on the DL for 15 days and let Brian Anderson prove if he has actually turned the corner and let Konerko get healthy.
by Grinder in Training on May 16, 2008 9:50 AM CDT 0 recs
according to Hawk
on the pain scale, the bone bruise is somewhere between being caned and being on fire. He also said treatment is both resting and playing through it. Then DJ requested the usual anecdote from Hawk’s playing days, yada yada…
If its a bone bruise, that sounds like rest/DL would be the course of action. I don’t see how PK is going to get right by continuing to hit, especially when he’s not exactly tearing it up.
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on
May 16, 2008 10:04 AM CDT
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Exactly, it's not like he's hitting anyways...
Send Konerko to the D.L., stick Swisher at 1B, and Anderson in CF. Get Konerko healthy, improve the defense, and get Anderson some AB’s. The way Konerko is swinging the bat right now, the change from Konerko to Anderson probably won’t matter much at all.
by SSH2005 on
May 16, 2008 10:07 AM CDT
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It'd probably help Buehrle if nothing else.
by Grinder in Training on
May 16, 2008 10:23 AM CDT
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I don't get it.
RE: Subject and Link relationship…
good defense helps keep down ticket prices? :)
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on
May 16, 2008 10:54 AM CDT
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Without clicking through, let me guess
SSH is referring to dimensions and the need for CF D?
Otherwise…
"Lipstick traces on cigarettes can get you in trouble or remind you of the wonders of the night before."
by Chiburb on
May 16, 2008 11:11 AM CDT
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Indeed...
I just don’t see the downside. We lost the DH this weekend, Konerko is hurt and hitting like crap anyways, Anderson was actually productive when he was in the lineup last week, and the park is a factor. Go defense this weekend, Ozzie!
by SSH2005 on
May 16, 2008 11:23 AM CDT
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Going to guess
Konerko gets a few games off as soon as we get back to AL ball, sitting Konerko and Thome doesn’t seem like something Ozzie would want to do. (Not saying I agree with it, but I imagine he’ll want at least one of his big hitters in the line up)
by Grinder in Training on
May 16, 2008 11:29 AM CDT
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here

http://www.andrewclem.com/Baseball/ATTPark.html
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
May 16, 2008 1:05 PM CDT
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i just looove the pastels, don't you, marco? absolutely fabulous.
by larry on
May 16, 2008 1:07 PM CDT
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not really better considering it doesn't include the dimensions, which i imagine is what the point is
by larry on
May 16, 2008 1:22 PM CDT
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use your imagination.
"For those that don't understand stats... that ops is horrifying."
by Toonderstrook on
May 16, 2008 1:31 PM CDT
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Hawk
Sounded a bit more idiotic then usual last night, but maybe thats because I haven’t been able to watch a game on TV for a week or two
by 815Sox on
May 16, 2008 1:42 PM CDT
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Tonight, IMO.
1. Cabrera, SS
2. AJ, C
3. Q!, L
4. Dye, RF
5. Crede, 3B
6. Swisher, 1B
7. Ozuna, 2B
8. Anderson, CF
9. Floyd, P
Pitching and defense.
by ballyb on May 16, 2008 11:27 AM CDT 0 recs
What you want
or what you think it will be ?
by Grinder in Training on
May 16, 2008 11:29 AM CDT
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How do you bat Ozuna ahead of Anderson?
And if Ramirez is so bad that Ozuna starts over him, why is Getz not here with Ramirez in AAA?
by SSH2005 on
May 16, 2008 11:29 AM CDT
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Good call!
But Adam Russell is. Did you know he is 6’8” tall?
"Lipstick traces on cigarettes can get you in trouble or remind you of the wonders of the night before."
by Chiburb on
May 16, 2008 11:41 AM CDT
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and can play all 10 positions!
"For those that don't understand stats... that ops is horrifying."
by Toonderstrook on
May 16, 2008 11:42 AM CDT
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Including leadoff hitter! My favorite baseball position
by Brush Back on
May 16, 2008 11:42 AM CDT
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of course!
"For those that don't understand stats... that ops is horrifying."
by Toonderstrook on
May 16, 2008 11:43 AM CDT
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sasquatch!
and iirc he has the beard for it
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
May 16, 2008 1:16 PM CDT
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That's easy enough to remedy.
the 40-man is at 39 at the moment, and Danny Richar and Andy Sisco could be moved to the 60-day DL at any point.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
May 16, 2008 11:44 AM CDT
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But once on, is the player then on and can't be removed
Or at least not be removed without the risk of losing them? Inquiring minds want to know. (I sure don’t know)
Of course if he works out – who cares.
by Brush Back on
May 16, 2008 11:52 AM CDT
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And if he doesn't work out...
it doesn’t matter, either. Nobody would care if the team lost him.
But yeah, a player has to clear waivers before they’re removed from the 40-man.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
May 16, 2008 11:53 AM CDT
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So its that in between appearence that messes it up then
Where he shows potential – but not enough at this point.
Speaking of not enough at this point… when are they going to send Ramirez down. Ozzie couldn’t move BA off the roster fast enough last year, yet this year we seem to be clinging onto to a player that is obviously overmatched and not producing. (ok, we have several of those – but we can’t move them)
by Brush Back on
May 16, 2008 11:57 AM CDT
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I honestly have no clue...
as to why Ramirez is on the roster. It’s entirely baffling.
I can (sort of) understand Toby Hall and Pablo Ozuna, but there’s absolutely no reason why Ramirez is sticking around that I can see.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
May 16, 2008 12:03 PM CDT
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Fine, switch the 2. Re the 2nd part, you're preaching to the choir.
Pitching and defense.
by ballyb on
May 16, 2008 11:52 AM CDT
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I am disappointed
All the creativity flowing from this site and no one has used the current 20-20 record woven into a story utilizing “hindsight”?
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 16, 2008 11:43 AM CDT 0 recs
Even more disappointing is YOUR failure to weave a 20-20 record
into a narrative of your favorite drink:
http://www.bumwine.com/md2020.html
"Lipstick traces on cigarettes can get you in trouble or remind you of the wonders of the night before."
by Chiburb on
May 16, 2008 11:59 AM CDT
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tremendous site!
i love the internets.
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on
May 16, 2008 12:05 PM CDT
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Love what he says about Boone's Farm:
Boone’s Farm just does not have enough alcohol per volume to be a bum wine. In a bum’s mind, heavy-hitting competitors such as T-Bird, Rosie, and Wild-I leave Boones in the dust. If Boone’s would make a 17% alcohol per volume version at the same price, perhaps bums would reach for it. This sugary swill is more of an underage drinker’s economy wine than a bum wine. You won’t find empty Boone’s bottles in any rail yard or heating vent, but you will find it in the local bowling alley parking lot or make-out spot. There is just no bumvidence to substantiate the bumsworthiness of Boone’s Farm.
"Lipstick traces on cigarettes can get you in trouble or remind you of the wonders of the night before."
by Chiburb on
May 16, 2008 12:12 PM CDT
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I still have trouble drinking anything called "Sangria"
Thanks Boone’s Farm!
"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'
by Hazymania on
May 16, 2008 2:30 PM CDT
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1st and only experience w/ MD 20/20 - Spring break 1972, Daytona Beach, Fl.
The term “Power Barf” was coined one fateful night.
Pitching and defense.
by ballyb on
May 16, 2008 12:28 PM CDT
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"Power Barf" story
It was oh, let’s say 1980, when I was sitting in the left field bleachers at Comiskey I.
Several seats to my right was a drunk guy in his mid-20’s who had his eyes shut and was just sort of rocking back and forth in his seat. This went on for a few innings, when suddenly – WOOSH! – a forceful stream of vomit came flying out of his pie hole that must have lasted 30 seconds.
Some of the spew got on a banner made from a bedsheet that he and his buddies had brought along (perhaps it was a message of encouragement for Rusty Kuntz). The drunk guy, now fully awake and feeling quite chipper, proceeded to pick up the banner and swing it around his head wildly, thus spreading vomit throughout the surrounding crowd.
Luckily most of the fans had cleared out when the power barfing began, but a few unlucky sould were the recipient of a spew shower.
Damn, I miss that park.
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
by tailgater on
May 16, 2008 12:58 PM CDT
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chipper
very true. a good vomit can really perk you up.
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on
May 16, 2008 1:28 PM CDT
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NOW you tell us?
Maybe we just need to get a few feathers into the pre-game meal ritual for Thomer/Swish/PK/OC. A little vomitatorium, like ancient Rome, might do the trick re: ending the hitting slump.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on
May 16, 2008 1:36 PM CDT
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How about laxatives?
To entice them to move around the bases quicker.
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
by tailgater on
May 16, 2008 1:37 PM CDT
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Were you a wrestler in high school?
Gotta cut weight somehow…
I took the "under".
by winningugly on
May 16, 2008 1:40 PM CDT
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My apologies to Jim Thome
As he approached the plate last night with 2 outs and the go ahead runner on 2nd, out loud I said, “Awwww crap!”
I now regret these words, but he had been 0-12 in the series up to that point, so I hope Mr. Thome can understand my frustration and concern at the moment. I’ll try not to let it happen again.
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
by tailgater on May 16, 2008 1:03 PM CDT 0 recs
even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while
we all know thome (still) hasn’t hit as many clutch hits as carl everett did in a 19 day period in may 2005.
by larry on
May 16, 2008 1:05 PM CDT
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True dat!
"Lipstick traces on cigarettes can get you in trouble or remind you of the wonders of the night before."
by Chiburb on
May 16, 2008 1:09 PM CDT
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But Thome does believe in dinosaurs
Sorry, had to work it in.
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)



