Game 43: White Sox (21-20) @ Giants (17-26)
by The Wizard on May 17, 2008 7:01 PM CDT
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PrintChicago White Sox at San Francisco Giants, May 17, 2008 8:05 PM CDT
Mark Buehrle (LHP) vs. Barry Zito (LHP)
Time: 8:05 p.m. CT, TV: WGN, Radio: WSCR AM-670 (B-R preview, Live Boxscore; 2007 MLB Gameday; 2008 MLB Gameday)
GO SOX!
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Before we focus on tonight's game.....
just a note that Aaron Poreda had another solid outing today for WInston-Salem…..7 IP, I ER.
poreda
5/17: 7.0 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 1 ER, 2 K, 2 BB
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Again, that stat line screams "Good fastball" to me.
Well, that or lucky. But he’s been maintaining a pretty low hit rate for a while now, so it’s probably not luck.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
I want to thank the Cleveland Indians for not keeping Ryan Ludwick around...
Nice to see him doing quite well for the Cardinals…
116 AB
.336 AVG
.406 OBP
.724 SLG
1.130 OPS
10 HR
28 RBI
Royals lock up their young closer Joakim Soria...
Royals signed RHP Joakim Soria to a three-year contract with options for 2012, ‘13 and ‘14.
It’s rather odd that Soria would give the Royals all of the option years like that, but they’ll probably be under pretty favorable terms. Unfortunately, Soria has been so good this year that it appears unlikely that we’ll ever see what he could do as a starter. He certainly has the varied arsenal to get through lineups three times per night. Soria, who turns 24 on Saturday, just gave up his first two runs on Thursday, but he recorded the save anyway, making him 11-for-11 on the season. If the Royals keep him in the closer’s role, he’ll probably be an elite reliever for a long time.
This guy may be...
one of the best closers in baseball right now, and for a long time in the future.
Rule 5 is made for finding closers
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Cabrera, Ozuna, Ramirez, Hall
AND a pitcher’s spot? Be still, my beating heart!
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 17, 2008 8:01 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah, I heard on WSCR 670 that...
Uribe will likely be out until Tuesday, although he may pinch-hit tomorrow. Crede is out tonight with general aching and soreness. The guy on The Score made sure to note that it wasn’t from his back.
That lineup it fucking hot.
The Giants announcers...
are already starting to alibi about the umpiring.
It’s a bad sign for Buehrle, though.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 17, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
That really was a good at bat for Ozuna
as much as he sucks. Wow.. did Q just crush that ball.
by Grinder in Training on May 17, 2008 8:16 PM CDT reply actions
Probably going to have to go yard
if he wants to keep up with Hamilton. Sac. Flies just aren’t going to get it done.
by Grinder in Training on May 17, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmm..
Perhaps spoke too soon, what the hell.
by Grinder in Training on May 17, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I coached little league last summer
so a lot more often then I wanted to.
by Grinder in Training on May 17, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
He hasn't played much
maybe he forgot the rules.
by Grinder in Training on May 17, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
He really better go to the bench
When we go back to AL play and can use Thome at DH.
by Grinder in Training on May 17, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
At least he can still draw walks...
I really liked the idea of Anderson getting some playing time this weekend. Oh well…
Yeah me too
I think Ozzie may go that route once Thome is useable I just don’t think he’s going to take them both out, and maybe wait for Uribe to come back too, unless Alexei decides yesterday wasn’t a fluke.
by Grinder in Training on May 17, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
In Game 42....
I believe Pablo has contributed positively in the 1st inning more than he has the entire season.
Don't look now....
but we actually like a good team for the first inning plus tonight….
4 pitch walk to get to Q!?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Remember the mid-90's when
columnists complained about Frank Thomas not swinging the bat enough….
I think that just happened right there with Q….
AIM: SouthSideCheat
He's our Bonds, I tell ya.
Infuriatingly disciplined. Unbelieveably talented. Walked way too often – puss pitchers.
I took the "under".
Ha ha
I think.. until someone else on the team starts hitting, if anyone is on base, he should just swing at balls until he has two strikes just to make sure he doesn’t get walked.
by Grinder in Training on May 17, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
friggin change up
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Guy throws 8 out of last 9 pitches for balls...
...and you’re swinging at something in the dirt. Good eye JD.
balls.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
swinging on that change was the difference there, i think.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
God damnit
Zito is just begging to get lit up and the Sox are content to let him off the hook. Two bad he pitched around CQ wit no no protection.
Lollygaggers.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Maybe they'll end up beating us 2 of 3.....
but these Giants are dreadful.
I agree
Just needs to get some at bats, in AAA preferably for me just b/c I think he’s probably not quite ready for the big leagues.
Hard line drive for an out, a home run and a walk yesterday. Today another single, and a walk so far. Of course.. it’s the Giants so you take it with a grain of salt, but you can see what he can hopefully do some day.
by Grinder in Training on May 17, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
That was a really nice throw by Alexei in addition to the excellent positioning
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
That seems like it should have been an out.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
they stop by the tenderloin on the way to the park?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Couple of comments
Was I the only one who didn’t know that a runner getting hit by the baseball (i.e. the Ozuna play on Dye’s grounder) results in a hit for the guy at the plate?
Also, Jerry—did you have tickets for any of the games this series? You’ll have to forgive me for being sort of ignorant of the west-coast… are you not that close to it?
Even though the Sox are up early, this has been a pretty miserable start. Dye’s had some horrendous at-bats, and that half-swing on the 1-0 “changeup” (Zito’s changeup looks average at best—I’ll have some more comments on him (not that anyone cares) in the post-game thread) was particularly pathetic.
I'm thinking of going tomorrow.
I’ve got to pick my wife up from the airport tonight.
I live pretty close – it’s about 45 minutes by public transportation from my house.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 17, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't agree....
yeah disappointing that JD didn’t come through….but otherwise they look fine.
Yep.
We have 2 runs in 3 innings. We had 2 all last night. No 2-out hit by JD. So now we suck?
Lighten up – we’re in the lead.
I took the "under".
"Miserable" was a bit of an exaggeration on my part
I’m just a bit miffed that the Sox have had a shot to knock Zito out of here early and haven’t come through with that ‘big’ base-hit (Swisher and Dye’s at-bats, namely).
Zito is going to get himself out it looks like
as long as we don’t give him anything out of the zone, we’ll be good.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Actually I'm encouraged by the start so far
Having good at bats for the most part. I didn’t like JD’s, but I think he thought 1-0 he’d get a fastball. Not the worst assumption.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
I didn't know either Keith
But then thought to myself you’d end up with 4 outs in the inning if it weren’t the case
About time, Mark
Gotta close these old men out. 2 out hits/walks will not keep you on the mainland.
I took the "under".
Can't believe the only really bad AL teams right now are the Tigers and Mariners.
Even the Rangers are at .500 after a win tonight against the ‘Stros.
nice ab by swish
laid off a curve and a change to get a 3-2 fastball count and Zito wouldn’t put it over.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
he's got a ton of extraneous movement, i'm not surprised
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
I'm having a pretty easy time predicting Zito's pitches
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
"line drive"
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
they track line drives in the box score?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
PH!
Let’s get some BA and Nick Magic.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
He's upping the pitch count
he’s crafty.
by Grinder in Training on May 17, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
i guess zito must be less than replacement level
if the likes of hall, ozuna, and ramirez are getting to him easily.
He learned everything he knows from Gavin
by Grinder in Training on May 17, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, the coincidence that Mark faces Zito first
after making the last out. Baseball.
I took the "under".
Pretty easy to hit
When he’s falling behind nearly every batter 2-0 or 2-1 and brings that BP fastball and floating breaking ball.
Does anyone else see a resemblance of Mark and Zito
minus $80MM? Mark is locating better, but Jeez they could be mound brothers.
I took the "under".
certainly not the giants announcers...
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
One of them
Is still a major league pitcher.. and if you look at the stats besides ERA it looks like Buehrle will return to at least, well replacement level at some point in his career. Zito is done.
by Grinder in Training on May 17, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
More like the NL thing.
So as a young bon vivant don’t you have something to do tonight? I’ve already been to a wedding, so this is the cherry-on-top of my evening.
I took the "under".
Well
Considering that MB has made a career out of having good command and control with mediocre stuff I wouldn’t say he’s fallen off yet. Zito is like Mark with no control and command, and that pitcher is the suck.
I just know...
the Sox are going to find a way to leave four men on base this inning.
gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them
by defensive indifference on May 17, 2008 9:14 PM CDT reply actions
I'd say he's turned a corner somewhat lately
But he’s facing Barry Zito and the giants, so it’s kind of meaningless.
by Grinder in Training on May 17, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
It all adds up
Some of the greatest carping on this site is when we’re facing someone we should own and fall flat against, so enjoy it for now.
I took the "under".
Good point
if he was failing against Barry Zito that’d be pretty damn bad.
by Grinder in Training on May 17, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
The Secwet Weapon isn't having the best ab
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Pablo can fly!
OC is not Juanito going into 2nd, is he? How did he allow the 2nd baseman to get the throw off?
I took the "under".
Hmm
I just really hope Q is the real deal. I’ll just keep laughing like Hawk after Buehrles bunt while he keeps looking like the steal of the year.
by Grinder in Training on May 17, 2008 9:21 PM CDT reply actions
i love that guy so much
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Do they have an airport
with 10 dollar flights? Or is that even still going on ?
by Grinder in Training on May 17, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
My God...
I’m trying to find the words to type about Quentin, but nothing’s coming. It’s like I’ve come to expect him to either hit the ball really hard or walk every plate appearance.
Another stellar at-bat by Dye.
that was his pitch
but he got beat on an 1-0 change last time up…
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Damn Ozzie....
Should have swapped Toby and JD tonight….
IF he did
and it turned out like it has.. you would hear about a gambling problem by tomorrow.
by Grinder in Training on May 17, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Can we please just take until we get a strike?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Zito has a 3.00 WHIP so far
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Nine left on through four.
Zito at 200 pitches.
gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them
by defensive indifference on May 17, 2008 9:26 PM CDT reply actions
I love Q
I love how everytime he gets up he either hits a rocket or walks or gets hit. I love how he yells fuck when he check swings a ball into the stands. I love his muscular glutes.
Just wait two years from now
When he’s your starting Right Fielder and he’s throwing people out with that laser of his.
by Grinder in Training on May 17, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to mention the lasers he has in his eyes.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Zito will probably be done after this inning
unless we do something stupid.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
He has an arm on him..
Maybe not as good as Uribe’s but his turn looks smoother. I wonder who makes the better 2B defensively at this point.
by Grinder in Training on May 17, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
really? ugh.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Molina would've legged it out, 3E8
: )
Alexei has a great arm… an arm that could most certainly play at SS.
the throw from the knees in the short outfield
was really nice, imo.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
It really was
pretty neat he was able to get so much on that throw. Combine that with some of his double-play turns as well as that spin-and-throw from CF earlier in the year and he’s really flashed a plus-plus arm in the field. I’m still getting a read on the other aspects of his defensive play.
i don't think it's plus plus
but i like what i see.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
nice turn!
there goes the Giants only hitter. and to think they could have had Joe Crede.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Well...
that probably was a good thing, all things considered.
The Giants weren’t going to be contenders anyway, and Williams was asking for a lot.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 17, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah no kidding.
it was Sanchez and one of the ‘07 draft picks as a PTBNL, iirc. what a haul that would be.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
hasn't had the medical attention either...
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
I weas reading about Robert Veesco today, who just recently died
(Google it). One of his proteges, who is from Cuba wa quoted in the article. The columnist described a Cuban cigar the guy showed him that was in the shape of a phallus, with testes attached.
They must have excellent genetics in tobacco growing in Cuba.
I took the "under".
this is a family-friendly site dammit
:p
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
everyone is struggling from what I've seen
SF Bay is windy I guess?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
ah yes,the gall durned transsexuals
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
6 walks for Zito...
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Zito is lucky...
that this lineup is so terrible.
A major-league lineup would have six or seven runs by now.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 17, 2008 9:36 PM CDT reply actions
don't fuck with The Tobe
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Five bucks says Buehrle can't lay down the bunt
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
that's pretty cruel
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
mark was practicing the bunt cause he figured he’d be on the cardinals by now.
"Walkie, you're doing a heck of a job."
HEY LOOK I DIDNT LOSE FIVE DOLLARS
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
After Cabrera grounds out to short...
That’ll be eleven runners left on base in five innings. Ugly.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 17, 2008 9:41 PM CDT reply actions
Hawk just said
“unless something funny happens (which I assume would be a base hit) we’re gonna strand two more runners”
Time to get Zito his first win.
This is pathetic.
gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them
by defensive indifference on May 17, 2008 9:43 PM CDT reply actions
And Buehrle's been so great this year.
Starting off well…
gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them
by defensive indifference on May 17, 2008 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
gamethread #2
http://www.southsidesox.com/2008/5/17/519881/game-43-gamethread-2
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
The Giants announcers...
are giving Zito all sorts of credit for his outing. They don’t understand how pathetic this offense is.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 17, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions
Just me
or does this Steve Holme guy look creepily like Brian Anderson?
by Grinder in Training on May 17, 2008 10:22 PM CDT reply actions
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