Signs of Life
Bizarre.
There's no simpler way to describe Sunday's victory in San Francisco than "bizarre."
It appeared as if the White Sox would be in for a long day, with a good pitcher in Matt Cain on the mound and John Danks representing their only baserunner offensively in the first 4 innings. But Joe Crede's HR in the 5th broke up the no-hitter, and brought the Sox even, if only for a few minutes.
Danks surrendered the lead moments later when a routine groundout to second base turned into anything but routine when the ball took a weird hop off the base itself. When Orlando Cabrera hit the first of his two HR --that's right. OC hit two HR in one game to raise his SLG to .301-- the game started to smell like a Sox victory. But when Danks left, things really started to get interesting.
The back end of the bullpen had been a bit taxed over the Sox 4 game win streak, so Ozzie was forced to go with some unusual choices in order to keep those guys fresh and healthy for the rest of the year. And after all, it was the Giants offense. What could go wrong?
Wassermann. Thornton. Dotel. That's what. The trio combined for 8 baserunners in just three outs, yielding 5 runs after being staked to a 3-run lead. Twice. If not for the fine relief work of Nick Masset, who got the emergency call in the 8th when Dotel loaded the bases, the damage could have been much worse. Masset needed just 4 pitches --or maybe the Giants needed just 4 pitches... It's all perspective-- to wriggle out of the bases loaded, nobody out jam. And it might have been less if not for blown call/poor throw/poor footwork play at second base.
Nick Swisher's bases clearing double will probably grab the morning headlines, but it was Masset's work that truly saved the game. Just for good measure, the offense added 4 runs in the 9th to allow Bobby Jenks a much-needed day off, even if he did have to warm up.
The offense was long overdue to pick up the pitching staff, especially the bullpen, who have grown used to the Sox bats going quiet late in games. You probably could have made some money taking bets that the Sox, who went the first 25 innings of the series with a total of 1 hit with a runner in scoring position, would reach a dozen or more runs after the 4th inning. Likewise, you probably could have made a lot more taking bets on the Giants 8. It was some exciting, truculent baseball.
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The Sox come home from their 10-game west coast trip with a 7-3 record and back atop the AL Central standings. I'd say it was a successful trip, if an unimpressive 7-3. Seattle and San Fran aren't exactly playing good baseball, and aside from a couple of brief outbursts, the offense still has major issues. The starting pitching has been impressive, however. And I have to admit that the offense's ability to keep giving the bullpen a lead to blow Sunday made me feel a little better about their future.
I suppose you could spin the trip any way you'd like. I'll chose to point out that the '07 Sox shared a 23-20 record, though they were 4 games back in 3rd place of what appears to have been a much tougher division. This team could still fall on its face, or the pitching could be for real, the offense could get more consistent, and they could march into October.
A year ago at this time, I called the Sox "a lifeless team inexplicably treading water above .500." I can't say the same about this team, which, I think, says a lot about their future.
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"went the first 25 innings of the series with a total of 1 hit with a runner in scoring position"
Wow.
Great stat, Cheat.
Pitching and defense.
by ballyb on May 19, 2008 6:59 AM CDT 0 recs
Did Cheat actually mention the Sox and October in the same post?
He put it on the board, yes! Couched, cautioned, hedged, but still…
And why the hell not? It’s been 25 years since they made the playoffs by “Winning Ugly”, and yesterday’s game was reminiscent of ‘83.
My only fear is if they do make it that way, WU will be even more insufferable.
;-)
"Lipstick traces on cigarettes can get you in trouble or remind you of the wonders of the night before."
by Chiburb on May 19, 2008 7:26 AM CDT 0 recs
No need to toot the horn if they contrinue to do well -
my sig shows what i think, and if I’m (gladly) wrong I’ll STFU.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on
May 19, 2008 10:28 AM CDT
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I did too. But I always do.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on
May 19, 2008 12:43 PM CDT
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this weekend they certainly were winning ugly
Saturday, the offense tried hard to lose the game with the LOB, but the pitching wouldn’t have it. Sunday, the bullpen tried their damnedest to give it away (except Masset, who didn’t get cc’ed on the memo), but the bats disagreed.
Thankfully, we get in the way of ourselves.
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on
May 19, 2008 10:40 AM CDT
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'05 Was Fueled By a Mediocre Homer Happy Offense
And brilliant (and yes, lucky) run prevention. So far ‘08 looks much the same. Every SP (except MB) is pitching at or above reasonable expectations. The bullpen, for the most, has been solid.
I think this team is improved, but I still see the Sox falling short of the 90+ wins it will take to make the playoffs. Still, an exciting summer and some semblance of a pennant race would be great after the disaster of last season. I surmised this team would win around 80 games before the season. I might have to revise that to around 85 now.
by madvillian on May 19, 2008 7:50 AM CDT 0 recs
My gut tells me the defense was considerably better in ‘05 than it seems to have be so far in ‘08. But I haven’t looked at the numbers. Besides, my gut tells me a lot of things.
by vince_ on
May 19, 2008 2:20 PM CDT
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don't look now
but the team OPS+ is 101. thank you san francisco.
by larry on May 19, 2008 8:59 AM CDT 0 recs
they need to figure it out, bite the bullet, buck the collusion, whatever
before the season gets too far away. barry’s only a phone call away for the tigers.
by larry on
May 19, 2008 10:38 AM CDT
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you guys don't have geographical or familial ties
but seeing as I do, I’m starting to feel bad for the Tigers. of course, they still have triple the chance to make the ‘offs according to the PECOTA adjusted report.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on
May 19, 2008 12:48 PM CDT
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did your geographical or familial compadres
feel bad for you last year?
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on
May 19, 2008 1:21 PM CDT
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they did!
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on
May 19, 2008 1:26 PM CDT
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if someone would have told you before the season started...
that our starters would be this good, that our bullpen would be that consistent, and that we would have more runs scored that the detroit tigers what would you have guessed our record would be right now?
by Sox Fan Louie on
May 19, 2008 12:23 PM CDT
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Weird game yesterday
seems like every time I’d walk out of the room the score would change
by 815Sox on May 19, 2008 9:34 AM CDT 0 recs
Is "Z" not working for anyone else?
"Lipstick traces on cigarettes can get you in trouble or remind you of the wonders of the night before."
by Chiburb on May 19, 2008 10:07 AM CDT 0 recs
Emily Latella
"Lipstick traces on cigarettes can get you in trouble or remind you of the wonders of the night before."
by Chiburb on
May 19, 2008 10:07 AM CDT
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working for me right now
Mac OSX 10.4 and Firefox 2.0
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on
May 19, 2008 12:49 PM CDT
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Masset ground-ball clinic
Masset delivered three straight double-play balls.
Pretty sweet (even if it was SF).
by tommyjoepeters on May 19, 2008 10:13 AM CDT 0 recs
We have to score some runs against the Indians starters,
in order to get to their relievers.
The Indians lead all of baseball with an overall 3.36 ERA.
S / R splits are:
as Starter 2.98
as Reliever 4.36
Pitching and defense.
by ballyb on May 19, 2008 10:57 AM CDT 0 recs
we have the capability to do that
(we’re actually better than average in pitches/pa), but sometimes…
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on
May 19, 2008 12:50 PM CDT
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A little bit of last year
The Sox record after 43 games in ‘08 is identical to their ‘07 line after 43.
by tommyjoepeters on May 19, 2008 11:00 AM CDT 0 recs
And...
you don’t feel like you’re watching the walking dead as was the case last year.
by Brush Back on
May 19, 2008 11:19 AM CDT
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but the runs scored/allowed is markedly different
...which would explain why mlb’s XW-L is 25-18, compared to last year’s 20-23.
by tommyjoepeters on
May 19, 2008 11:42 AM CDT
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RS RA 2007 178 190 2008 203 173
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on
May 19, 2008 12:45 PM CDT
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wow
let’s see if they can widen that margin over the next two weeks
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on
May 19, 2008 3:32 PM CDT
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I think Cheat mentioned that in his post:
I’ll chose to point out that the ‘07 Sox shared a 23-20 record, though they were 4 games back in 3rd place of what appears to have been a much tougher division. This team could still fall on its face, or the pitching could be for real, the offense could get more consistent, and they could march into October.
A year ago at this time, I called the Sox “a lifeless team inexplicably treading water above .500.” I can’t say the same about this team, which, I think, says a lot about their future.
"Lipstick traces on cigarettes can get you in trouble or remind you of the wonders of the night before."
by Chiburb on
May 19, 2008 11:19 AM CDT
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They were
lifeless because Toby was on the DL…this year a healthy Toby whose teaching Alexei english, dying Jenks goatee pink, getting water for the fella’s when they are dry and throwing out 3 in 10 basestealers while hitting a solid .294 is the difference.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on
May 19, 2008 11:26 AM CDT
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Well, maybe. But I think it's clearly the work of Cox.
We shall reach greater and greater platitudes of achievment.
by Chiburb on
May 19, 2008 11:28 AM CDT
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Yeah, Toby Hall for MVP
or Mr. Congeniality. (Tells a great clubhouse joke, too.)
I took the "under".
by winningugly on
May 19, 2008 11:29 AM CDT
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me and my Yankee fan friend
always used to joke that’s why they kept bringing back Tino Martinez. he’s a great clubhouse guy. you can’t have too many of those.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on
May 19, 2008 12:53 PM CDT
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Toby
I believe his proper nickname is “T Dog” per Swish.
Oh, and he owns the Giants.
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
by tailgater on
May 19, 2008 1:27 PM CDT
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The suffix - "Dog" is when they can't figure a real nickname
for you (I had one of those from my buddy whom I referred to as “the whitest black man in the world”). That was my “hood-handle”.
Toby’s ought to be “Pus-Arm”.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on
May 19, 2008 1:29 PM CDT
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Carlos Quentin
has made himself a nice comfortable home in he 3-hole.
by Rockraines on May 19, 2008 11:30 AM CDT 0 recs
speaking of signs of life...
i feel like i hardly have any. can’t pull off partying six days and/or nights in a row anymore. was at the game yesterday sitting 5 feet from the giants’ on-deck circle just left of the plate; amazing to watch the pitches from that angle/short distance (~40 feet according to what i read), even if the netting is annoying. also a great spot to be able to hear the ball hit the bat; knew q!’s ball was gone just from the sound and still can’t believe either of oc’s got out. the giants fans actually came to life after their two rallies, which made the masset magic and crooked number in the top of the ninth that much more satisfying.
oh, and wu, the karma police must be on vacation.
"For those that don't understand stats... that ops is horrifying."
by Toonderstrook on May 19, 2008 11:51 AM CDT 0 recs
what's the sig from?
and you need to do a long winded note filled Fanpost, son.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on
May 19, 2008 12:55 PM CDT
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something that my CLEARLY favorite poster said about ba's .688 OPS during a particular stretch.
"For those that don't understand stats... that ops is horrifying."
by Toonderstrook on
May 19, 2008 12:57 PM CDT
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link plz
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on
May 19, 2008 1:07 PM CDT
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just remember...owens is fast.
http://www.southsidesox.com/2007/10/30/202416/54#2813016
"For those that don't understand stats... that ops is horrifying."
by Toonderstrook on
May 19, 2008 1:12 PM CDT
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Congrats, my man.
BIG weight, whether you admit it or not, to have that behind you.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on
May 19, 2008 1:23 PM CDT
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indeed. maybe now i'll revert back to my old sweet self.
"For those that don't understand stats... that ops is horrifying."
by Toonderstrook on
May 19, 2008 1:27 PM CDT
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Guess who's picture is NOT on the Sox site for All-Star balloting?
http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/index.jsp?c_id=cws
We shall reach greater and greater platitudes of achievment.
by Chiburb on May 19, 2008 11:54 AM CDT 0 recs
Click on photo #2
We shall reach greater and greater platitudes of achievment.
by Chiburb on
May 19, 2008 11:55 AM CDT
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If Q maintains at this level
through the All-star break, there’s little doubt Tito will select him as a reserve.
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on
May 19, 2008 12:15 PM CDT
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Might be the biggest write-in vote in history?
Pitching and defense.
by ballyb on May 19, 2008 12:00 PM CDT 0 recs
Might want to start the campaign NOW (underlined in red).
Pitching and defense.
by ballyb on
May 19, 2008 12:01 PM CDT
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Nice marketing, heh? Uribe is there, but not you-know-Q
We shall reach greater and greater platitudes of achievment.
by Chiburb on
May 19, 2008 12:08 PM CDT
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"you-know-Q?"
Gotta get some signs printed up with a catchy line re write-in voting for Q!.
What’s the catchy line, all you creative ones?
Pitching and defense.
by ballyb on May 19, 2008 12:34 PM CDT 0 recs
GOT TO GET Q INTO MY LIFE!
parody songs are always the way to go
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on
May 19, 2008 1:08 PM CDT
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Never gonna give Q! up
Never gonna let Q! down
Never gonna run around and desert Q!
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on
May 19, 2008 1:21 PM CDT
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Nice Rick Astley.
(I’m worried you know about him.)
I took the "under".
by winningugly on
May 19, 2008 1:24 PM CDT
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Q! knows the game and he's gonna play it
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on
May 19, 2008 1:27 PM CDT
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Q and me against the world.....sometimes it feels like Q and me against the world
Just Q and me….simple and free
Q are so beautiful…to me….(OK, it’s awkward).
AND EYYYEEEE…WILLLLL ALWAAAAAYS LOVE QQQQQQ-WHOOOOOOOO
We gotta million of ‘em.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on
May 19, 2008 1:27 PM CDT
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it helps that Q and you rhyme
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on
May 19, 2008 1:28 PM CDT
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They do?
I was just being sincere.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on
May 19, 2008 1:29 PM CDT
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so does Q and WU. or is that what Colin meant?
We shall reach greater and greater platitudes of achievment.
by Chiburb on
May 19, 2008 1:30 PM CDT
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Q and me and rain on the roof
We shall reach greater and greater platitudes of achievment.
by Chiburb on
May 19, 2008 1:30 PM CDT
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I Got Q Babe
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
by tailgater on
May 19, 2008 1:32 PM CDT
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Q Put The Bomp In The Bomp-a-Bomp-a-Bomp
Q put the ram in the ram-a-lam-a-ding-dong
We shall reach greater and greater platitudes of achievment.
by Chiburb on
May 19, 2008 1:37 PM CDT
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Q Can't Always Get What You Want
Q Can’t Always Get What You Want
Q Can’t Always Get What You Want
But if you try sometime, you just might find, you’ll get a clutch home run!
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
by tailgater on
May 19, 2008 1:39 PM CDT
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Q Will Save Your Soul
Q will save… save your soul when it comes to the flowers now?
oh, Q will save your souls, after those lies that you told, boy?
And Q will save… save your souls if you won’t save your own?
We shall reach greater and greater platitudes of achievment.
by Chiburb on
May 19, 2008 1:43 PM CDT
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yes, a gem of a writer/singer.
We shall reach greater and greater platitudes of achievment.
by Chiburb on
May 19, 2008 1:46 PM CDT
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don't you remember Q told me Q love me Uribe
Q said Q’d be coming back this way again maybe
Uribe, Uribe, Uribe, Uribe, oh Uribe….
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on
May 19, 2008 1:37 PM CDT
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We have a winner!
Wait! As long as we are quoting Tommy Boy duets:
Eres Q! Eres Q!
I took the "under".
by winningugly on
May 19, 2008 1:42 PM CDT
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I like Chiburb's
I Got Q! Babe!
Pitching and defense.
by ballyb on
May 19, 2008 1:48 PM CDT
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Credit where credit is due, please
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
by tailgater on
May 19, 2008 1:48 PM CDT
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Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
Short, sweet.
With the ! or without.
I really like the !. IINM, Cheat gets credit for Q!.
Pitching and defense.
by ballyb on
May 19, 2008 2:07 PM CDT
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if Quentin is Q!,
then Pablo should be “O?”
As in, why is still on this team?
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on
May 19, 2008 2:11 PM CDT
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that was tailgater. best compliment he's ever had though...
We shall reach greater and greater platitudes of achievment.


