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Chicago White Sox at Toronto Blue Jays, May 2, 2008 6:07 PM CDT


Mark Buehrle (LHP) vs. Shaun Marcum (RHP)

Time: 6:07 p.m. CT, TV: CSN, Radio: WSCR AM-670 (B-R preview, Live Boxscore; 2007 MLB Gameday; 2008 MLB Gameday)

Today's Starters

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
Mark Buehrle 1-2 5 5 0 0 0 0 28.2 38 19 18 3 8 16 5.65 1.60
Shaun Marcum 2-2 5 5 0 0 0 0 33.1 22 13 12 5 12 26 3.24 1.02

Today's Lineups

Chicago White Sox @ Toronto Blue Jays

05/02/08 6:07 PM CDT

Chicago White Sox Toronto Blue Jays
Nick Swisher - 1B Alex Rios - RF
Orlando Cabrera - SS Aaron Hill - 2B
Jim Thome - DH Scott Rolen - 3B
Jermaine Dye - RF Vernon Wells - CF
AJ Pierzynski - C Shannon Stewart - DH
Carlos Quentin - LF Lyle Overbay - 1B
Joe Crede - 3B Gregg Zaun - C
Brian Anderson - CF Adam Lind - LF
Juan Uribe - 2B John McDonald - SS

GO SOX!

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Er...

That is to say, Wednesday’s, and Pierzynski is in instead of Hall.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 2, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No worries
Last in the American League in batting average was not what Sox hitting coach Greg Walker had in mind this year, but he’s not too worried at this point. ’’The culture is there to have a really good offensive team,’’ Walker said. ’’Paul Konerko is not going to hit .220 this year. Jim Thome is not going to hit .220 this year. We’re going to walk a bunch, hit a lot of home runs and hit better than .240, or whatever our average is.’‘

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/927975,CST-SPT-soxip02.article

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 2, 2008 5:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The culture is there...

All they need now is a coach.

Joist

by Joist on May 2, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Walk should be fired…from a CANNON into the SUN!!!

by thecip on May 2, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We are the Culture Club

“Do you really want to hurt me? Do you really want to cry?”

Yep, that’s our AVG.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on May 2, 2008 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i figure Sunday vs. Halladay

the whole team gets in line and under .300.

O-fer Cabrera kind of sucks, doesnt he?

by e-gus on May 2, 2008 6:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Those aren't even the powder blues

they’re the neon powder blues

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on May 2, 2008 6:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you must have

one of them high-falutin HD tee-vees

O-fer Cabrera kind of sucks, doesnt he?

by e-gus on May 2, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is gonna be an ugly game

mainly cause of those uniforms…

Q is the fifth cylon

by thecip on May 2, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

another non-hit for thome.

Repeat after me: reading comprehension, even a little bit of thought before posting, and basic research are not signs of weakness.

by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 6:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

At least Thome reached base

while the others[ Cabrera and Dye] looked overmatched and Swish didn’t hesitate to swing. Hope buerhle is good tonight every inning.

by floridajim on May 2, 2008 6:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gregg Zaun

is my favorite baseball player (really)

Q is the fifth cylon

by thecip on May 2, 2008 6:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs


That and paying for steroids with a check.

Q is the fifth cylon

by thecip on May 2, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't execute the fundamentals!

So many times already this year.

by circles on May 2, 2008 6:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

SSH, is that you?

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by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you know what they say about guys who talk to themselves...

Repeat after me: reading comprehension, even a little bit of thought before posting, and basic research are not signs of weakness.

by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SOME of us are already home

Are you wrapping up another cruise-control week?

;)

I took the "under".

by winningugly on May 2, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't hate the player, hate the game.

i have a quota of cases. there is no benefit to me to exceed said quota. end of story.

Repeat after me: reading comprehension, even a little bit of thought before posting, and basic research are not signs of weakness.

by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, just change your sig to E.O.S. It's faster.

You’re obviously busy.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on May 2, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

John Wilkes Booth wouldn’t hurt a fly.

Q is the fifth cylon

by thecip on May 2, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um, Sox,pay attention

That’s what a 2 out RBI looks like. Repeat when you have the opportunity.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on May 2, 2008 6:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

But its too cold to hit!!!!

Q is the fifth cylon

by thecip on May 2, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

based on one at-bat?

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by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, he still has to knock in two runs to make up for his error...

but he will soon be back down to the .750 OPS guy he always is.

by SSH2005 on May 2, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't doubt he'll regress back to the type of numbers he's put up before,

but i don’t know that his first at-bat on may 2nd is the evidence for that.

Repeat after me: reading comprehension, even a little bit of thought before posting, and basic research are not signs of weakness.

by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, either way it's going to happen...

and people will soon be calling for Josh Fields.

by SSH2005 on May 2, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crede last two weeks...

.189/.268/.378 (not counting that popup).

There’s more evidence than one at-bat pointing to a Crede regression.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 2, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's fine. big difference when the evidence is actually presented, though, don't you think?

Repeat after me: reading comprehension, even a little bit of thought before posting, and basic research are not signs of weakness.

by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i didn't understand you meant hitting badly in general.

if you just said “crede sucks again,” i would have understood that. but you specifically referred to the pop-up and nothing else. i just didn’t know that he’d been popping up everything again recently.

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by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shaun Marcum is also Babe Ruth, pitcher

Man, I am in a foul mood this eve. We’d better effin’ score.

Wait, girl’s gymnastics on the Sunshine Network. I’m OK now.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on May 2, 2008 6:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

way to go, rocket!

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by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Knock it off, I want to stay pissed tonight.

Positive tonight – it’ll be quick with MB on the hill, one way or the other.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on May 2, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

throat cut versus belly wound.

Q is the fifth cylon

by thecip on May 2, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

never stopped greg maddux!!!

Repeat after me: reading comprehension, even a little bit of thought before posting, and basic research are not signs of weakness.

by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry. i forgot my sarcasm indicator.

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by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No hit through 3 innings...

5 strikeouts. I wish our offense wasn’t so damn unlucky.

by SSH2005 on May 2, 2008 6:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The part of the field right of the centerfielder is not out

Maybe someone should let Walk know that right field is not out.

by southsideirish71 on May 2, 2008 6:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hahahahahahaaa...

We are only playing half-court today.

by SSH2005 on May 2, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you watching? i only have gameday...how does buehrle look?

Repeat after me: reading comprehension, even a little bit of thought before posting, and basic research are not signs of weakness.

by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

routine play?

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by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

10 Sox hitters -5 Strikeouts

To quote Walker-We’ll start hitting soon” -Does that this month, next month or next season? These players are tough to watch flail away at slow off-speed pitches.

by floridajim on May 2, 2008 6:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

Pitching and defense.

by ballyb on May 2, 2008 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OC - an 0-2 hit

He’s back!

I took the "under".

by winningugly on May 2, 2008 6:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Carlos up yet?

Pitching and defense.

by ballyb on May 2, 2008 6:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

it was a reverse jinx! wu wants to stay pissed, remember?

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by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scouting report for every Sox hitter

He will swing through his shoes on a 2-0 pitch, no matter where it is.

Joist

by Joist on May 2, 2008 6:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe OC will steal second, third, and home

That’s the only way he’s scoring.

Joist

by Joist on May 2, 2008 6:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Dave Stieb in the house?

Those unis really suck.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on May 2, 2008 6:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you're reaching...

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by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

just like our hitters.

Plus, the site is slow as our runners.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on May 2, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and yet in first place! a christmas miracle in may.

Repeat after me: reading comprehension, even a little bit of thought before posting, and basic research are not signs of weakness.

by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

alomar?

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by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

tony fernandez?

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by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh yeah, devon white too.

Man, they had a lot of speed, except Olerud.

by circles on May 2, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no. if they raced today, with olerud at 40, i'm still taking him.

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by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn, I really remember Olerud being

the slowest guy on the field almost every game.

by circles on May 2, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't really know who is faster. i just couldn't bet against a guy who had to wear a helmet in the field to protect himself against another aneurysm.

Repeat after me: reading comprehension, even a little bit of thought before posting, and basic research are not signs of weakness.

by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was alomar for most of the season...he had 463 PA hitting 2nd. devon white likely led off most of the time.

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by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's the recorg?

Don’t cancel the postgame just yet.

Pitching and defense.

by ballyb on May 2, 2008 7:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

record

Pitching and defense.

by ballyb on May 2, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

21

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by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hawk saids they've been working on situational hitting.

Well Walker this is some situation you’ve put them in!

by SoxfaninAZ on May 2, 2008 7:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hit or drive in runs with timely hits?

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by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

still?

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by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stewart sure is a POS tonight

I am out in left field this eve.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on May 2, 2008 7:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He's entered with a .933 OPS against Buehrle

It’s over 1.000 now

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on May 2, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He must be working out with Contreras

Because he picked up this side arm crap every so often, and the ball sails or cuts right before the first baseman can catch it. Its not like he was rushed on it, he got lazy and half assed it.

by southsideirish71 on May 2, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MB jealous of all Marcum's K's apparently...

...also I don’t think PK makes that play at 1st that Swish just made.

by vince_ on May 2, 2008 7:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not a chance

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on May 2, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

there ya go. shit on the one compliment SSH has given since Q last did something good.

Repeat after me: reading comprehension, even a little bit of thought before posting, and basic research are not signs of weakness.

by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm trying to be consistent this eve.

Even attempting to diminish Cheat’s observation. Heretic.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on May 2, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder which is worse...

the bad hops from real grass or the faster ball speed on turf?

by SSH2005 on May 2, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Helluva question

I would think the reaction time is not as much of an issue from guys who are used to 95 mph fastballs as long as the hops are true. But I don’t know.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on May 2, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its the art of low and away

You spot it low and away and our pull only lineup can’t control themselves.

Oh and the adjustments on the swing are great.

Crede’s AB

Huge cut low and away fastball miss
Changeup in the dirt, Huge cut and miss.
Curve away, stick your butt, out and lunge your upper body towards the pitch, and yank it to left for an easy flyout.

Cabrera hits the ball back up the middle, and the entire team must figure that Marcum is going to tee it up for him center in about thigh high.

by southsideirish71 on May 2, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so you'd trade the one good guy?

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by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am going to play MLB The Show 08...

I can actually make the Sox offense look good in that game.

by SSH2005 on May 2, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

GTAIV

is amazing.

Q is the fifth cylon

by thecip on May 2, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

is it?

im considering buying an xbox just for that game.

O-fer Cabrera kind of sucks, doesnt he?

by e-gus on May 2, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's really good...

...pretty amazing tech, fun gameplay, good story, and their version of NYC looks amazing.

by vince_ on May 2, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that settles it

im headed for the doghouse.

you can play online too, right?

O-fer Cabrera kind of sucks, doesnt he?

by e-gus on May 2, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

16 player online...

...and the online stuff takes place in the entire city, pretty much anything you can do in the single player game you can do in the multiplayer game.

by vince_ on May 2, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

online play is really cool.

One of the games- cops and robbers…with rocket launchers.

Q is the fifth cylon

by thecip on May 2, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

GTAIV is helpful

I pretend that the entire city is filled with Greg Walkers.

by southsideirish71 on May 2, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

blue jays have four hits in five innings off a guy throwing 85 mph fastballs who can't strike anybody out. they effin' suck!!!!

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by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Give me a break...

There’s a big difference between 4 hits and 2 runs in 5 innings and 1 hit and 0 runs in 5 innings.

by SSH2005 on May 2, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're giving them credit for the two runs that scored because of a botched routine play to end the inning?

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by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

based on marcum's 34 K's and .167 BAA so far this year?

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by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i didn't say that. you are the king of love of small sample sizes. in this case, marcum this year is much better than buehrle this year.

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by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i am hardly a homer.

but you say the offense sucks so often that it seems like a fucking miracle that the white sox are (a) in first place and (b) have scored more runs than 17 other teams in baseball.

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by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buehrle is sick tonight.

but Crede and the offense are going to shit all over him.

by SSH2005 on May 2, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

but Marcum isn't sick tonight? Just the shitty Sox making him look so?

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by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that was an honest question. i told you i am only on gameday out here.

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by Toonderstrook on May 2, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

you get tired of the “running into a buzzsaw” excuse.

Marcum was sick.
Blackburn was sick.
Bonser was sick.
Burres was sick.
Mussina was sick.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 2, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you still talking about Owens?

O-fer Cabrera kind of sucks, doesnt he?

by e-gus on May 2, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

who do you sit?

if they can trade Thome or Konerko, hes cool.
as is, i’d rather not have him out there.

O-fer Cabrera kind of sucks, doesnt he?

by e-gus on May 2, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ps

they cant trade konerko or thome(or dye)

O-fer Cabrera kind of sucks, doesnt he?

by e-gus on May 2, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ed?

“a home run ties it”...

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 2, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

do you think well see ump hater hawk?

or is that the home hawk and road hawk slurps the enemy

O-fer Cabrera kind of sucks, doesnt he?

by e-gus on May 2, 2008 7:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Definitely...

even though it will be a call that probably won’t even matter in the end.

by SSH2005 on May 2, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

gamethread #2

http://www.southsidesox.com/2008/5/2/471919/game-28-gamethread-2

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 2, 2008 7:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

THE DAMAGE IS QUITE

minimal

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on May 2, 2008 7:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You can't atone for a sloppy throwing error

Joe has had 5 errors this season all pretty sloppy.

by floridajim on May 2, 2008 7:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I might be mistaken

but I swear I saw the Toronto dugout laughing uproariously as Uribe came to the plate, did I see that correctly?

by floridajim on May 2, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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