Game 45: White Sox (23-20) vs. Indians (22-22)
by The Wizard on May 20, 2008 6:00 PM CDT
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PrintCleveland Indians at Chicago White Sox, May 20, 2008 7:11 PM CDT
Jose Contreras (RHP) vs. C.C. Sabathia (LHP)
Time: 7:11 p.m. CT, TV: CSN, Radio: WSCR AM-670 (B-R preview, Live Boxscore; 2007 MLB Gameday; 2008 MLB Gameday)
GO SOX!
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I like that Lineup
Other than Swisher should be switched with Ocab. Can’t wait for the lottery and this game.
what is the bulls' % of sneaking into the top 3?
"For those that don't understand stats... that ops is horrifying."
by Toonderstrook on May 20, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
is villainous vic martinez fighting injuries?
what happened to his power? he’s slugging at the same rate as brian anderson. 0 hr through 130 ab?
"For those that don't understand stats... that ops is horrifying."
runner on first two outs turns into at least a 7 spot. brutal.
gold glovin’ jeter had a say in that i see.
"For those that don't understand stats... that ops is horrifying."
by Toonderstrook on May 20, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
coming into the game he...
had an ERA under 4 and a WHIP in the top 12 in the al.
"For those that don't understand stats... that ops is horrifying."
by Toonderstrook on May 20, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
a 39 year old
with a ERA+ of 101 in 47 IP. Wang is clearly better maybe Pettite is a slight age to Petitte for being 3 years younger. Followed by 60 some innings of Ian Kennedy/Igawa/Hughes none who have an ERA+ over 50.
yeah, everyone knows their backend sucks
i’ll still take mussina. he’s probably younger than our #3.
that wasn't the question anyway.
the question was how we would feel if mussina was our 3rd best starter. there was no mention in there of him being around long-term (hence the age is irrelevant aside from a potential increased risk of injury) or that we’d have to have 4 and 5 guys who are way way way below league average.
"For those that don't understand stats... that ops is horrifying."
by Toonderstrook on May 20, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
well, that's if you want to parse away the whole their pitching is thin part
which i’m perfectly happy to do.
because the two statements taken together don't make sense?
as evidence of thin pitching you use mussina as a #3?
the big issue right now seems to be his inability to go deep into games.
"For those that don't understand stats... that ops is horrifying."
by Toonderstrook on May 20, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Who gives a crap?
nothing personal, but ESPN has the Yankees woes covered 24/7.
We have a game to watch!
;-)
We shall reach greater and greater platitudes of achievment.
but the banter between krukkie and steve phillips. just priceless. really.
"For those that don't understand stats... that ops is horrifying."
by Toonderstrook on May 20, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
i should have said CLEARLY priceless.
"For those that don't understand stats... that ops is horrifying."
by Toonderstrook on May 20, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
PTI and Around The Horn
When I get home from work early sometimes.. but haven’t watched sports center in a few years.
by Grinder in Training on May 20, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
At 4 oclock
there really just isn’t much on either; so it’s not like I’m choosing those shows over something else worthwhile. ESPN is pretty unbearable.
by Grinder in Training on May 20, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
PTI is good
But I hate it for leading to “Around the Horn.”
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
i have trouble respecting a program
where at least one of the commentators is openly hostile to things like OPS.
he'll if I know
nice 1st for the old man.
We shall reach greater and greater platitudes of achievment.
I make it a point not to watch ESPN when they aren't showing a game
Absolutely awful programming.
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
no.
sports center occasionally, but it’s usually boring and sometimes it’s worse and i can know everything they can tell me in five minutes on the internet.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
So half inning already down and one post about the action on the field
I think that says a fair amount about how Contreras has pitched this year.
by Grinder in Training on May 20, 2008 7:20 PM CDT reply actions
on to the offense!!
that’ll give folks something to post about one way or the other!
We shall reach greater and greater platitudes of achievment.
bulls top 3 pick
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
mia, min, bulls = top 3
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
not in order
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
I think cheeseburger
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
no. 1
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Q!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
I remember a game 1 1/2 years ago.
AJ was asolutely pathetic vs. CC.
Pitching and defense.
absolutely
Q! Q! Q! Q! Q! Q! Q! Q! Q! Q! Q! Q!.
Pitching and defense.
derrick rose!
I’m salivating
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Lets see if Paxson can redeem himself
After having a pretty rough year.
by Grinder in Training on May 20, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't be so pessimisstic
Q should get to bat at least twice more this game. Could easily be 3 by the time the game’s done.
by Grinder in Training on May 20, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions
'07 is too recent for even me to forget.
We shall reach greater and greater platitudes of achievment.
Like I said,
cold cock Ozzie if he brings up that “don’t know why we’re playing this game” CRAPOLA
Pitching and defense.
CC looked very good, except for..............
Pitching and defense.
clearly
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Wow, I can't believe the Bulls got the #1 pick.
I just shat myself.
Uh…back to baseball!
gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them
by defensive indifference on May 20, 2008 7:30 PM CDT reply actions
stoney said in the 1st that jose has returned to the 93-95 range
95?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Quentin vs Dye
Carlos just looks like he isn’t afraid of anything, Dye looks like he will have another chance and he has all night. Youth is confidence!
Q! and the Bulls?
Man, I might have to start caring about things again.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Spiritually speaking, I'm actually a 40 something and grew up in Stockton, California.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
i'm just a boy with a new haircut
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
gristle for jim and cowley
from reifert:
Pregame
Members of the team got together on the outfield grass before stretch to see a special video. The piece, snagged by Toby Hall, showed outfielder Brian Anderson working out with his personal trainer during the offseason. It was classic BA and classic “dig me.” I can only imagine the abuse BA is going to take from his teammates, and in classic BA style, he is going to smile the entire time.
“Jeez, that’s a lot of work just to sit on the bench,” one sympathetic on-looker mentioned.
“When I played, I just drank beer in the offseason,” one manager said.
http://whitesoxpride.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/05/sweet_home_chicago.html
They showed part of it on the CSN pregame
In one scene BA was taking what appeared to be a 10 lb. sledgehammer to a 40+ inch monster truck wheel..
AIM: SouthSideCheat
can we get the video synced with "I'm never going to give you up" ?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Jim, you have my promise that if I ever make it as a SportsCenter anchor or equivalent
that I will use that as a home run call.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
see: first game of season
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
just Seebass
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
under 250 pounds
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
jim can't hit lefties
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
not named CC
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
I like it so far, but I always remember my number line
1
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Can we get a little Bulls chat going mid-thread
re: Rose versus Beasley? I don’t know how objective I can be… I’m completely partial towards point-guards who can really do magical things with the ball (i.e. Chris Paul), and I think Rose can be that good. That’s not a knock at all on Beasley.
I take it those two are the only ones who are in the running here, or is Mayo also worth being talked about?
Rose fits the roster better
and allows them to move a guard to help fill needs elsewhere
AIM: SouthSideCheat
Fair enough, fellas
I’ve been too Blog-a-Bull and while I like Matt’s posts, I usually don’t learn a whole lot from ‘the masses’.
I really hope drafting Rose would mean bye-bye to Gordon… I swear that anything he does on offense is negated by the fact that he’s completely useless on the defensive end (okay, no more Bulls talk).
Wooh! Carlos Quentin! Yeah!
You have to parse the readers. I think BaB gets signficantly more traffic
so you just have to expect that there’s some good with the bad. And there is. I like sbulls930(?) and bullshooter, just to name two that I’m pretty sure I like. Also I would check draft express. There are a lot of freely available opinions re: prospects.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
I'm sure Blog-A-Bull is having it out right now.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
hard to keep up on bab. too many comments to read.
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
which is just to say that they probably have a little more knowledge
and for whatever it’s worth, I was disappointed with Rose’s performance against Kansas, as much as his game against UCLA spoke well of him. But two games does not appropriate sample size make.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Keith...I'm pumped too.
I am in disbelief. Anyway…I’m 95% sure they’ll take Rose based on their roster set-up now. And he’s a hometown boy. Personally, I hope they take Rose because I’ve been watching him since high school and dreamt of him playing for the Bulls.
On the other hand, I wouldn’t be unhappy with Beasely. He’s a monster.
BUT…would it take much more than that pick to get Carmelo? haha.
gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them
by defensive indifference on May 20, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
it's rose in a landslide. this is a franchise maker draft lottery.
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
no, flying cock
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
like most penises, there's some list to the flying sort as well
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
imagine my surprise when i see this, hit Z
and land on your comment about paulie always grabbing those.
I'm going to a Bulls site to start a Sox thread
bring home a winner boys!
We shall reach greater and greater platitudes of achievment.
poor Keith
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
fuckface?
the cardinal rule is ‘no swearing’
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
shit since when?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
not here
cardinal blog
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
iseewhatyoudidthere
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
lighten up. It was snark.
sorry if you didn’t get it , I’ve never dumped on you so I thought you would.
We shall reach greater and greater platitudes of achievment.
C'mon now, Chi
I thought the rule with snark was that a CLEARLY was supposed to be used. Or is that sarcasm (or is it necessary to differentiate?). Gah—I’m so confused.
In any case, no hard feelings. Only hard (and flying) penises, apparently…
*hug*
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Not expecting much from Alexei here...
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
a walk's as good as a hit?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
pitching around OC?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Blake's got a huge lead
If he’s not going, I’d be surprised.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
how literal was that?
"For those that don't understand stats... that ops is horrifying."
by Toonderstrook on May 20, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Is it time for some Magic?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
herm?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
I was thinking the same thing
if nothing else he just invited a number of bunts on the evening
AIM: SouthSideCheat
for those not watching at home (like the young gent posting, e.g.), what happened?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
though that sprint over to first seemed okay
maybe the sting will ease and herm will get some treatment btw innings.
What kind of site is this?
Flying penises? In Russia? Magical meat aprons?
My word.
I took the "under".
he seemed to be avoiding either following through completely with the leg
or was doing a quick pushoff immediately after it landed for a while there. but the last few pitches in the inning he stopped.
what lar?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Not a bad recovery
Two weak grounders. Results-wise, he looks the same.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
Can you direct me to a blog...
to discuss my dinner tonight?
gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them
by defensive indifference on May 20, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
the line is jerk store... jerk store!
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
This blog is too subtle for me....
Post-ironic irony and all that…or is that not what that was?
by hitlesswonder on May 20, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions
larry's gotta be working a deal
Very randy tonight. All jacked up, going in for the kill. And, BTW, we’re winning.
I took the "under".
Advetising the stool softner Ducolax as a lead-in to a Rays ticket ad.
Gotta know your demographic.
My Dad and I are gonna go to the Six game the first of the month in Tampa. We’ll see if The Trop has maintained its charm from a month ago.
I took the "under".
jeez, WU, you're already 147
that puts your dad around Abe Lincoln’s age, y/n?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
He definitely hit that ball hard....
but I think I’d prefer AJ work the count a little….CC came into the inning with 40 pitches.
Career AJ vs. CC -- .188 /.250/.438.
If he sees a pitch he can hit, fuck working the count.
Pitching and defense.
What's the Dow going to do tomorrow?
Pitching and defense.
Consistent results is all I need.
Pitching and defense.
Sorry, didn't read all the references below.
Pitching and defense.
Stanchar
Always reliable predictions come through again.
by Grinder in Training on May 20, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm on a roll...all to the benefit of the Sox.
Also told a buddy today the Bulls would not get the 1st pick in the lottery.
that's another fuck-up by stanchar
that means the alex snelios family will donate another $100 to white sox charities. in loving memory of ursula.
Check that...
...Snelius is now out of money. Dadgummit.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
This little gem from the "Let's Go Tribe!" blog.
“We need a leadoff hitter.” Cabrera for Sizemore even up?
Pitching and defense.
Have to battle Jerry for the position.
Pitching and defense.
Garko, Quentin.
Teammates at Stanford.
Pitching and defense.
Carlos "Sa' Quentin imprisons another pitcher...
No? OK, we’ll keep brainstorming. Wishe we could come up with some slogans for Carlos – it’s very difficult when you don’t have much to work with.
I took the "under".
We need a Sox fan printer
to print posters with the “vote Quentin” slogan we decide. A few of us will pass them out 1. at the Ryan and 35th and 2. near the viaduct to the west. It will be national news.
Pitching and defense.
day job. stick to it.
let’s get that 8th marriage up and running!
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
sounds like I'm just cocky enough
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Would anyone be surprised
if Hawk actually puts a JM in his scorebook?
by Grinder in Training on May 20, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply actions
Is it possible that all Jim Thome did during the off-season
was watch video of his ABs against CC?
Sure looks like it
Realized he had troubles vs. lefties, figured he’d watch his tape against the best lefty in the league. Forgot that he only sees him a few times a year.
by Grinder in Training on May 20, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Better watch some righty tapes.
Pitching and defense.
Boy, looks like Greg Walker
has done a great job stressing to Joe Crede that it’s OK to take the ball the other way. Terrible at-bat there.
And gets himself ejected to boot
Great job, Joe
by hitlesswonder on May 20, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Against Sabathia
He’s not going to get a borderline call. That’s just the way it is.
by hitlesswonder on May 20, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok the first AB was not a strike...
Second one was.
Can we play Juan at third since this game might matter?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
I vote YES (underlined, in red).
Pitching and defense.
Fields would playing on one leg right now
So the dropoff from him to Uribe or Ozuna isn’t that great
by hitlesswonder on May 20, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Swish has been having good at bats
worked the count and got his fastball. Did the same thing last ab, iirc.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Do they give an award for RF that hustles the least to balls in the corner?
I’d like to nominate Mr. Dye.
You get limited reach atop the Empire State building, I imagine
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
It's like a delayed topple
The ball looked yards past him by the time he hit the dirt.
by hitlesswonder on May 20, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
someone set you up the bomb
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
All Your Base?
You need to read up on your internet memes.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Groundball to Contreras
He turned.. caught the man between 2nd and third, run down, got him and Blake couldn’t advance to 2nd.
by Grinder in Training on May 20, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
gamethread #2
http://www.southsidesox.com/2008/5/20/524178/game-45-gamethread-2
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
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