Sox Satisfy With Series Capping Comeback
Gavin Floyd gave up hits in bunches, AJ Pierzynski and Carlos Quentin brought the Sox back twice, and the bullpen continued its run of excellence to get the Sox back on track with a series victory.
Someone--I thought it was Jim until I wasn't able to find the link--said the series opener was a satisfying victory, but for my money, of which I have none to spare, Wednesday's win might have been the most satisfying of the season.
I didn't get to see any of the first 5 innings, and tuned in just in time to see Floyd give up the go-ahead HR to Jhonny Peralta, so I can't really say anything about his outing other than it would be nice to see him continue to post the same peripherals for the rest of the season.
Pierzynski and Quentin were the story of the offense. First productive-outing their way into the lead from a bases loaded, nobody out situation in the 5th. Then providing the second comeback go-ahead runs with back-to-back doubles off Rafael Betancourt in the 7th.
The bullpen continued its fine work with three scoreless inning of relief. They have not allowed an earned run since San Francisco, a span of 25 innings. It wasn't all easy though. Octavio Dotel pitched over a leadoff walk. The first two batters hit Scott Linebrink hard, but both for outs. And Bobby Jenks had to pitch over a Joe Crede error and a 2nd & 3rd, one out situation to finish things off. The pen has really earned their streak.
The two comebacks, the Pick Me Up for a pitcher who should have gotten a victory last time out, the living on the edge relief work we haven't seen since 2005, which will hopefully help to bury the Team in Turmoil meme made this one the most satisfy victory of the year. To me, at least.
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Chicago tough?
“You look at that team over there, they’re a little bit tougher than we are right now,” Cleveland manager Eric Wedge said after the White Sox defeated the Indians 6-5 Wednesday.
by vince_ on May 28, 2008 5:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That sounds suspiciously like...
“you’ve got to tip your hat”.
Fun fact -
The White Sox are 11-4 against the Indians and Tigers, 18-19 against everyone else.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 28, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's a good one
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on May 28, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really no....
I thought the simulation of the Sox vs the Central had the team finishing with a .460 record against them this year?
Methinks this team will have a .500 record against more than just Indians/Tigers
by Tdogg on May 28, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Overall...
the White Sox are 14-8 against the AL Central (they’re 3-4 against the Twins and haven’t yet played the Royals), 15-15 against everyone else.
The Tigers and Indians have been really bad.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 28, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That projection was horseshit
We’ve owned our division, for whatever reason, since 2005.
(Waits for the inevitable retort/fact that he is FOS.)
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 28, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You need to go back further than that
At least from a standpoint of finishing over .500 in the division. My attempt at sarcasm involved my hissy fit earlier this year when that division projection was put out there. I argued it was horseshit regardless of the overall team record because they did indeed play better vs their division rivals for some reason.
by Tdogg on May 28, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And remember they have yet to play Kansas City. I think everyone else in the AL Central has at least once, if not twice.
by VAChisox on May 28, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
KC hasn't been nearly the pushover they've been in years past
They’re no juggernaut, but they always play us tough. I’m not writing them off, no way.
"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'
by Hazymania on May 28, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm
interesting stat… right toonderstrook?
"I would rather have a battalion of German soldiers in front of me than a platoon of French soldiers behind me."
by Where Triples Go to Die on May 29, 2008 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
great, great win
2 out of 3 in cleveland is big
I didn’t watch it, but fortunately CSN will show the game again at 7pm
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on May 28, 2008 5:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ozzie
... Cabrera went on to point out how any Major Leaguer who says he’s not selfish is lying. He added that “everyone is selfish about numbers, because that’s the only thing people cannot lie about.”http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080528&content_id=2787010&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cwsThat sort of perceived “me-first” response goes against the “pulling from the same end of the rope” attitude the White Sox have been preaching since the start of Spring Training. But Guillen felt as if Cabrera made a wrong choice of words in his commentary.
“Everyone has to take care of themselves before they take care of the team,” Guillen said. “That’s the way he should have put it. I played the game. I played longer than he did, and I played with more different teammates than he did. I think selfish sounds like he isn’t a team player. But in baseball, I say we win as a team and lose as a team.
“But when you’re there, you’re by yourself. It’s not basketball, where you got to cover me and I’m going to shoot. This is about you. You hit a ground ball, that’s about yourself. When you’re going to hit, it’s you. Everyone has goals, and his goal is to make as few errors as he can, like I did it. But I keep repeating that. It’s not about me or him. It’s about the club.”
Above all else, Guillen’s previously mentioned comment sits at the crux of this situation. Cabrera can disagree with the man in charge, but as long as he continues to perform, having knocked 10 hits in his past 18 at-bats entering Wednesday’s contest, the disagreement gets pushed to the background.
“The only thing I care, believe me, is how he’s going to be on the field,” Guillen said. “I don’t think I’m his favorite manager. But you know what? He’s my favorite shortstop right now. He’s my favorite shortstop, and I know Cabby since years ago, and I don’t think our relationship should be missing about this.
“If he’s not happy or something here, we have stuff and we play our way. Maybe it’s the wrong or the right one. My way is to protect the players the best I can. If he don’t feel that way, there’s nothing I can do about it. I have 24 guys that I have to be behind him.
“It’s about playing well,” Guillen added. “He’s doing it right now. I don’t have an issue. Maybe one of his teammates has an issue. Hopefully not, but to me, I don’t lose my positive energy to stuff like that. We have more problems.”
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on May 28, 2008 5:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank goodness they are on semi bad terms
He can go play for a real manager after the season. Just help the team now.
by Tdogg on May 28, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed - "We have more problems."
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 28, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More satisfaction:
1. The winning rally came after back to back doom and gloom posts. You know the Spiro Agnew line…
2. The Qnicorn picture (see game thread#2).
3. WU received a well-deserved comuppance!
Oh yeah, what Cheat said too.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 28, 2008 5:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
tidbits
Guillen admitted to making a mistake by thinking about not taking Hall with the team out of Spring Training. “Thank God we keep him and made that decision and he earned his spot,” said Guillen of Hall, who is hitting a team-best .375 in 40 at-bats. “We didn’t play him the way we should play him in Spring Training, because I worried about his injury. He’s doing a pretty good job, and hopefully he keeps it up.” ... The White Sox picked up their 1,000 franchise victory over Cleveland on Wednesday. It’s the third franchise they have defeated 1,000 or more times … Quentin has 23 RBIs in his past 20 games and six games with at least three RBIs. ... Four of Jermaine Dye’s nine home runs have come against the Indians.http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080528&content_id=2787723&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on May 28, 2008 6:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Quentin has .........six games with at least three RBIs.
W – O – W ! ! !
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 28, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn
how does that rank in the league. i figure josh hamilton has more.
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on May 29, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So is Hall's shoulder 100% healthy now?
by SSH2005 on May 28, 2008 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about 100% but he seems ok now
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on May 28, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the other two
The Senators/Twins and Athletics are the other franchises the Sox have beaten at least 1,000 times.http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/cs-080528-gavin-floyd-chicago-white-sox,1,6628312.story
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on May 28, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great win
Offense showing some ability to string things together. Floyd, obviously just keeps doing what he’s doing. He isn’t going to keep the ball in the park like early, but 7K and 1BB is great.
Ozzie and Cabrera need each other. I can’t stand Cabrera but at least he’s playing better lately. If you he can just be 90% of last year that will be a nice boost to the team.
by madvillian on May 28, 2008 6:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wise's next start?
sunday?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on May 28, 2008 6:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he's in charlotte on sunday
so yes.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
by larry on May 28, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL - always a pleasure to read you
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 28, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love the title, Cheat!
Very Batman, 60’s tv show variety.
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on May 28, 2008 6:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Today's Game
Just watched the game that I recorded on my DVR. It saves time just watching the important few innings.
Anyway, it was nice to see the team pick up a slightly below average pitching job. (This is going to need to happen once in a while). They hit in the clutch, which hopefully is a promise of slightly better hitting to come.
Taking 2 out of 3 in Cleveland is excellent. If we can do the same in Tampa that would be great.
by Alan Snipes on May 28, 2008 6:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...might be a bit hard to do
considering that it will be a 4 game series with the Rays
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on May 28, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's all about winning the series
Thats how I try to approach every series as a fan.
by shaftr on May 28, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's good you are grinding it out, taking it a series at a time, shaft
Helps the team.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 28, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
let's keep him on 1 batter at a time.
I’m loving his reverse mojo.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 28, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thome's 2009 option
the deal includes a team option for 2009 worth $13M or a $3M buyout … $22M of remaining $46M on his contract at time of trade that sends him to CHW is paid by PHI ($5.5M each season in 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009)http://www.mlb4u.com/profile.php?id=837
so, 13-5.5=7.5 right?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on May 28, 2008 7:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe that is correct...
and if Thome has a nice second half, he will easily be worth that option.
by SSH2005 on May 28, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Real opportunity
I know most of us felt the team blew a great opportunity for increasing the lead earlier by wasting the good pitching, etc.
After the Tampa series (Assuming even worst case 1-3) comes opportunity #2.
The team plays 13 of 16 at home against KC, Minnesota, Col and Pittsburgh while visiting Detroit for 3.
Time for the bats to heat up and make some noise and build a bigger lead.
by Tdogg on May 28, 2008 7:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yes. Lap the field before the break.
unlike ‘83 when it happened in the 2nd half after struggling the 1st.
You could look it up.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 28, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For MarketMaker:
“if it partners with cadbury i don’t give a fuck which one it is. i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 27, 2008 5:50 PM EDT”
Well, we know who to blame for an increased expense in trying to take care of our women:
“Candy Companies Blame Higher Prices
On Hedge Funds’ Chocolate Cravings
By AARON O. PATRICK
May 28, 2008; Page C1
London
The price of Cadbury PLC’s Caramello candy bar is up 10% over the past 12 months, raising a sticky question: Are hedge funds to blame?
Soaring cocoa prices are driving up the cost of chocolate around the world. The chocolate industry points its finger at speculative buying by professional investors, especially hedge funds.”
Fuckstick, MM. All men who have living, breathing women take umbrage at your speculative excess at the xpense of hard-working AMERICAN whipped men.
Thanks, man. Choke on it.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 28, 2008 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
next thing you know they'll try to corner tulips...
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 28, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Place your orders!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on May 28, 2008 8:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Do they make a version for non-golfers?
Say a frisbee version or perhaps even a pogo stick version?
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on May 28, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hah...
The privacy shield hooks to the sides of the pants or belt and adds stability. This allows freedom of the hands to manipulate the club and zipper.
Oh man…too much!
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
by tailgater on May 28, 2008 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Team ERA watch
Oakland 3.23
White Sox 3.42
Toronto 3.43
Diamondbacks 3.54
by vince_ on May 28, 2008 8:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sox Satisfy With Series Capping Comeback?
So Sorry to See Cabrara Crying. It Seems Some Sorry Saps Can’t Stay Calm.
Will Cowley Keep Stirring the Swill?
Find out tomorrow!
Same South Side Sox Time!
Same South Side Sox Channel!
What would Kittle do??
by thecip on May 28, 2008 8:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ramirez OK
Alexei Ramirez appeared to strain his right hamstring when he scored a run in the seventh inning Wednesday, but he stayed in the game and was fine afterward.http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=198755“He just had a cramp,’’ Ozzie Guillen said. “I thought he pulled a muscle, but he doesn’t have any muscle. Maybe it was a cramp in his bone.’‘
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on May 28, 2008 8:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Will kenny trade Cabrera?
Shortstop Orlando Cabrera all but sealed his eventual departure from the White Sox with the following statement:http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=198665“If it happens again, I will call again,” Cabrera told the Tribune on Tuesday after declining to speak to the other beat reporters covering the White Sox. “I don’t have to do it with other teams because they always had my back. They don’t want to do it here, I can take care of my own business. If you have a problem with what I did, come to me and say something. Don’t go to the media to send a message, because he didn’t send any message.’’ ...
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on May 28, 2008 8:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, via free agency...
but I don’t see Kenny trading Cabrera. Next season we may see a Ramirez / Richar double-play combination.
by SSH2005 on May 28, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cheat, you should really watch the first
inning if you can. I think it says alot about the pitcher Floyd has become this year, minimizing the damage from a few bloop hits and an error of his own doing.
by chrome on May 28, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was impressed as well
Three hits that inning were a bunt and two very softly hit balls in/through the infield. Floyd’s 7K/0BB give me hope he might really turn out to be a useful pitcher
by hitlesswonder on May 28, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He hasn't had the deer in headlights look all season...
which was a problem in the past. When he has gotten into trouble this season(which has been few and far between,) he has been able to minimize the damage, and come back strong the next inning. I think a bunch of credit has to go to AJ as well, but often times this season it seems like Floyd just gets locked in to the game, and can cruise for 3-4 innings at a time. Really nice watching a young pitcher mature like that in front of your eyes.
by Tony82087 on May 28, 2008 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How soon until Richar is up?
1 for 3 tonight for Charlotte with a HR and a BB. He did have a throwing error. He also had a strikeout. Richar was batting third. I wonder if they will even call him up with Ramirez finally starting to hit.
Uribe was 1 for 4 with a RBI single for Charlotte. He also had a strikeout.
by SSH2005 on May 28, 2008 10:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No need
Aram is actually playing OK.
"Still waking up in the mornings with shaking hands"
by thekever on May 29, 2008 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aram May stats
.300/.321/.400
Yep no need to rush Richar. Aram does seem to be improving.
by Tdogg on May 29, 2008 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ARam's expression(s)
Has anyone ever seen a player as expressionless as ARam?
"Still waking up in the mornings with shaking hands"
by thekever on May 29, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's smiling all the time, are you kidding?
Sure you’re not thinking of Paulie, Thomer, etc.?
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 29, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Freaking Royals...
They gave up 5 runs in the 9th to allow the Twins to tie it up. The Twins then scored a run in the 10th inning to win the game.
by SSH2005 on May 28, 2008 10:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
On the up side...
The Sox have 18 opportunities ahead to unleash their wrath on KC.
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
by tailgater on May 28, 2008 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cheat, I think someone is calling you out...
http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=62827&view=findpost&p=1648701
That guy is a massive White Sox homer.
by SSH2005 on May 28, 2008 10:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did they delete your reply, Cheat?
Or did you PM him? I don’t see your reply.
by SSH2005 on May 29, 2008 7:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
I can’t get to the site right now…
All I did post that I care about the user too, and gave them two non-SSS links to the Bureau fiasco…
If that has disappeared, I guess…
Soxtalk:Bureau posts::China:Pictures of tiananmen square
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on May 29, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How the hell can you read that site? It makes my head explode
There’s no tabbing for comments / replies and people seemingly jump all over the board with respect to topics. Perhaps I’m just a retard and haven’t figured it out?
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on May 29, 2008 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that site is awful. but you are still a retard.
after 52 games this century: '08: up 2, '07: down 7.5, '06: down 1.5, '05: up 5, '04: up 2, '03: down 7.5, '02: down 2, '01: down 12.5, '00: up 1.5
by Toonderstrook on May 29, 2008 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for noticing
how was life in the pen today?
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on May 29, 2008 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was actually very transparent and fairly intense.
we got to mingle with general population inmates, check out where each race hangs out in the yard, visit a housing unit (at which time the CO ordered two cells emptied so we could check them out), and check out the execution chamber. it was a no frills, but also no bullshit, tour.
after 52 games this century: '08: up 2, '07: down 7.5, '06: down 1.5, '05: up 5, '04: up 2, '03: down 7.5, '02: down 2, '01: down 12.5, '00: up 1.5
by Toonderstrook on May 29, 2008 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i did not, however, get scott peterson's autograph. sorry wu.
after 52 games this century: '08: up 2, '07: down 7.5, '06: down 1.5, '05: up 5, '04: up 2, '03: down 7.5, '02: down 2, '01: down 12.5, '00: up 1.5
by Toonderstrook on May 29, 2008 1:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Were you able to skull-fuck an inmate
and piss in his eyeball holes?
Just for shits and giggles, since I’m assuming John and Jane Q. Public were paying for this tour, what was the purported purpose? Like an eharmony.com thing?
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 29, 2008 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whaaaaaaa???
here they don’t charge you for touring a state pen; you’ve been living in themeparkville for too long.
after 52 games this century: '08: up 2, '07: down 7.5, '06: down 1.5, '05: up 5, '04: up 2, '03: down 7.5, '02: down 2, '01: down 12.5, '00: up 1.5
by Toonderstrook on May 29, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but you have to admit the "Electric Chair Ride" was hot!
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 29, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no electric chair.
but two chairs side-by-side for lethal gas or injection. after they strap the soon-to-be-departed into the chair and swivel it around, he is looking at the victim’s representatives eye to eye.
after 52 games this century: '08: up 2, '07: down 7.5, '06: down 1.5, '05: up 5, '04: up 2, '03: down 7.5, '02: down 2, '01: down 12.5, '00: up 1.5
by Toonderstrook on May 29, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you think about that?
Is it cruel and unusual punishment?
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 29, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thought it was during work hours, and thus
a govt.-sanctioned thing.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 29, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you smuggle in any files or shivs for WU's family members?
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on May 29, 2008 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and they can't speel
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 29, 2008 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And search is disabled
in the forums and has been for the past couple years. wtf?
by sti3 on May 29, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From Gonzo's article
Cabrera drew a walk during the Sox’s three-run fifth and scored the tying run in the seventh.
I’m not pointing it out because I’m above reproach, when clearly I’m not. I just thought I would point out that even when you have editors shit slips by…
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on May 28, 2008 11:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
at least gonzo cares about people who read his stuff...
"Let's assume that Kenny is still convinced that the White Sox can compete in 2008, which seems to be a good assumption. Apparently, Kenny thinks that Rowand would be a better acquisition than (Andruw) Jones to compete in 2008. My main point is that Kenny is a moron and this proves it."
by Toonderstrook on May 28, 2008 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Out of curiosity...
...if a batter calls time while the pitcher is in the windup, and the pitcher goes ahead and throws the ball and his the batter, what happens? Dead ball? Live ball? Automatic ejection?
by vince_ on May 29, 2008 12:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
not sure if there is a rule per se,
but i’m sure some of it has to do with whether the umpire grants time (and the rumor is that a new directive instructs umpires not to grant the batter time if the pitcher is in the windup) or not. if yes, no pitch. if no, dead ball. as far as ejection, i would guess that’s a judgment call.
"Let's assume that Kenny is still convinced that the White Sox can compete in 2008, which seems to be a good assumption. Apparently, Kenny thinks that Rowand would be a better acquisition than (Andruw) Jones to compete in 2008. My main point is that Kenny is a moron and this proves it."
by Toonderstrook on May 29, 2008 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Automatic ejection...
...if the pitcher crow-hops before releasing. Which I would be tempted to do if I were on the mound.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on May 29, 2008 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
have you been watching jennie finch footage again?
after 52 games this century: '08: up 2, '07: down 7.5, '06: down 1.5, '05: up 5, '04: up 2, '03: down 7.5, '02: down 2, '01: down 12.5, '00: up 1.5
by Toonderstrook on May 29, 2008 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PS I like the sig - though your attention span is
gnat-like. You change more requently than Hillary changes her reasons for why she’s not getting proper press coverage.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 29, 2008 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dead ball
Hits the batter? After the pitcher is “set”, I’ve never seen a batter call time and then stay in the box. It must be a REALLY bad pitch.
"Still waking up in the mornings with shaking hands"
by thekever on May 29, 2008 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Floyd coulda hit him last Friday.
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 29, 2008 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sun-Times shouldn't be expecting ang exclusives from Cabrera anytime soon.
Today, from DeLuca:
Now it’s up to Cabrera - a self-described clubhouse leader who has zero followers - to make sure the issue dies.
When Cabrera was acquired last November from the Los Angeles Angels for pitcher Jon Garland, no one would have imagined the veteran would become such a headache so early.
(Bold added by me, just waiting for underlining and coloring (RED) capabilities which which would have been very effective in this post.)
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 29, 2008 9:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Its amazing how hostile this has become
Boycotts, barbs and we are only a 1/3 into the season.
by Tdogg on May 29, 2008 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. Time for the team to turn on Reinsdorf ala the '72 A's did Finley
Recreate the old “us versus him” mentality that propelled them to the World Series (win).
Or maybe it was the mustaches?
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 29, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure that works "intra team."
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 29, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was most certainly the moustaches!
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on May 29, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All involved better get professional, quickly.
They best result would be for Cabrera to just say “I fucked up.” But these Columbians are proud (what is it with these Hispanics?).
I think Williams, Guillen and Cabrera need to go out and have a few beers (and shots).
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 29, 2008 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubans are proud, Columbians have coffee and coke.
As for “what is it with these Hispanics?”, it’s clearly the hot blood.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 29, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hot blood
conversely, you don’t see these type of problems with cold-blooded Canadian players. Morneau, Bay, Matt Stairs. Model citizens. Kirk McCaskill was a pretty nice guy, I think. Terry Puhl.
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on May 29, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or Bob Probert.
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 29, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a prince
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on May 29, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Swedes, either
Too much govt. subsidy to get pissed. And yet, Bjorn Borg for all his unflappability on the court screwed the pooch in his personal business dealings.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 29, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fergie Jenkins was a drug smuggler!
you could look it up.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 29, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
without looking it up
I’m guessing he was only delivering cheaper prescription drugs to fixed-income elderly Americans. A modern day Robin Hood, he is. :)
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on May 29, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and THAT's why he's in the HOF!
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 29, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as well as the Canadian baseball HOF
which also includes McCaskill, so yeah, its a little less exclusive.
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on May 29, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Enough about fucking Canadiens.
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 29, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
take off, eh!
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on May 29, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know a hoser when I see one.
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 29, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you ever...pooped a balloon?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on May 29, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
never anything left to transport. Fergie was a rich guy.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 29, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trooper was right - you ARE a racist
;)
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 29, 2008 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to that article
Cabrera was trying to get that error on the stolen base switched to Toby
But that’s what happened in this instance last Thursday against the Indians during a stolen-base try by Ben Francisco. Cabrera’s case hinged on catcher Toby Hall’s throw being errant. Basically, he was saying: Don’t give me an error, give it to Toby....
Here’s an interesting twist to the whole story. Official scorer Bob Rosenberg, who never spoke directly with Cabrera and wasn’t even aware the shortstop had lodged the complaint, did change his scoring decision after the game, taking the error away from Cabrera and giving it to Hall. After he left the ballpark, Rosenberg had a change of heart and decided the error belonged to Cabrera. But before he could make another switch, the Elias Sports Bureau - MLB’s official statistician - stepped in and ruled that no one committed an error. Francisco had simply stolen a base.
by vince_ on May 29, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting,
does Elias Sports Bureau review all errors called / not called?
I doubt it and if not, what triggered their review?
This has the makings of Watergate II. (For you younger posters see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_scandal)
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 29, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or perhaps a rusty trombone?
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on May 29, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was at the game
And in the stands, we were all mightily confused at the error. The errant throw was all we could figure, but since he didn’t advance on the throw, myself and a few other amateur scorekeepers figured the only correct call was merely a SB. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an error on a SB attempt, because I thought you couldn’t assume the out (which is why unless the ball gets away and the runners advance on the back half of a DP, you never see an error there, either, right?).
by madopal on May 29, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great point
Can’t assume the out. Everything else is moot. Nice work.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 29, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I don’t think I’ve ever seen an error on a SB attempt."
I think errors are charged all the time.
“because I thought you couldn’t assume the out”
Double plays, not stolen bases?
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 29, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both
I thought in a situation where it wasn’t a force (or in a more-than-one-out-per-play situation), the conventional wisdom was that you couldn’t assume the out.
On a stolen base, I thought the ball had to get away far enough for a runner to advance to get an error, not necessarily just that a good throw would have gotten the runner, and a bad throw therefore is an error because he wasn’t thrown out.
On a double play, even with the force at first, because of the difficulty of the play, you couldn’t assume the out. Same logic.
by madopal on May 29, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was awkward
and a bad throw therefore is an error because he wasn’t thrown out.
I meant that that’s where the logic of the error would take you, not that it is an error.
by madopal on May 29, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they could bring the captain
so he can do captain-like things such as helping with the leadership.
Show mercy. I get to watch the Rangers.
by Tim from Texas on May 29, 2008 9:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If I were Ozzie I'd be pissed
first for publicly acknowledging (what most of us believe already) that his ex-manager is better than Ozzie, then saying his manager doesn’t back him up. It’s one thing to be stats-oriented (wasn’t the most “selfish” stat guy Big Frank? And don’t most folks on this site want a statue built of him?). It’s another to keep throwing your manager under the bus.
For a guy who is the “field general” I think he may need to be fragged by someone he respects. Who might that be on this team? It reminds me a bit of Carlos Beltran and how he’s taking a very wide berth when it comes to his manager. I do wonder if it a cultural thing (there’s a marvelous pecking order in the Latin community, and Columbians are right up there with Spaniards and Cubans as the “top of the heap” category, from what I am told).
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 29, 2008 9:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Ben Wallace of the Sox
Could KW pull off a trade with him like Paxton did with Wallace though
by Brush Back on May 29, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being fragged already?
I haven’t seen one quote from a player defending Cabrera, have you?
by vince_ on May 29, 2008 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think its just because
its not worth their effort to them. I think to the other players, this is strictly a media story, and they don’t care. My guess is they shook their head at OrCa, and laughed at the ridicule he’s getting.
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on May 29, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, just silence.
Maybe the same concern that B-Mac had is what OC is feeling – Sox might be “cliquey” – but so effin’ what? I think he’s not to be afforded the “well he’s a kid” thing like you might’ve been able rationalize re: B-Mac. The guy’s almost as old as me.
Should someone call him out? Not publicly yet, but the Pvt. Pyle pillowcase full of soap bar trick might work. The interesting thing is he’s hitting better since being pissed off.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 29, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"publicly acknowledging (what most of us believe already) that his ex-manager is better than Ozzie."
Is Cabrera BRAINDEAD (underlined, in red)?
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 29, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who are you, ann coulter?
after 52 games this century: '08: up 2, '07: down 7.5, '06: down 1.5, '05: up 5, '04: up 2, '03: down 7.5, '02: down 2, '01: down 12.5, '00: up 1.5
by Toonderstrook on May 29, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in the middle of the Latin community, bro
and worked witha few street gangs in my time. Also did lots of biz in PR (Hillary’s fave commonwealth these days). Just keepin’ it real, like a “blanco” can.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 29, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry, should have been more clear. i was referring solely to the fragging...
after 52 games this century: '08: up 2, '07: down 7.5, '06: down 1.5, '05: up 5, '04: up 2, '03: down 7.5, '02: down 2, '01: down 12.5, '00: up 1.5
by Toonderstrook on May 29, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh - no, just flapping my anonymous Internet gums.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 29, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
She likes to be fragged?
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on May 29, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Swisher trade -- bad news for almost all involved.
With [Frank] Thomas aching and Ryan Sweeney taken for X-rays after fouling a ball off his left foot Wednesday night, the A’s might have to dip down to Triple-A Sacramento for reinforcement from outfielder Travis Buck.
The A’s did not receive such good news about 22-year-old right-hander Fautino De Los Santos. He had elbow-ligament replacement surgery this week. He hasn’t pitched since April 24 at Class A Stockton.
Gio Gonzalez is also not doing very well for Oakland’s AAA team…
5.37 ERA
53.2 IP
59 H
28 BB
51 SO
.281 BAA
1.62 WHIP
Meanwhile, roidless Swisher is still stinking up the joint for our White Sox.
by SSH2005 on May 29, 2008 9:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll take our haul. We win.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 29, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure how you can say that when...
Ryan Sweeney, by himself, is outperforming Swisher and they also have Gio and DLS if they ever pan out in the future. I don’t expect Sweeney to continue to outperform Swisher but who knows? Weirder things have happened, such as, Josh Hamilton being an absolute stud in the majors after a two year drug binge.
by SSH2005 on May 29, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Old argument
Sweeney’s ceiling is seemingly limited, DLS may be done, Gio is iffy (or we would not have traded him twice in a year or so). Swish is having a bad year. It happens. He’s young, he’s versatile, he’s a fixture in the lineup for 5 years, he fits the Sox “profile”. I’ll take it (reserving the right to change my mind in a year).
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 29, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is Gio "iffy" because Kenny traded him twice in a year?
Kenny also traded Chris Young away and kept Brian Anderson around. Chris Young turned out alright the last time I checked. And if Swisher is just having a bad season, then Gio could just be having a bad one as well. I liked the trade as well but I wouldn’t say that it is a sure-fire winner until he starts hitting like 2006-2007 Swisher instead of Neifi Perez.
by SSH2005 on May 29, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Javier Vazquez
Turned out pretty good too. Sometimes you have to give up talent to get it.
by Craig Grebeck on May 29, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IIRC, there was concern about "body type",
and his pitching coach called him “decent” at Fantasy Camp in January -cewrtainly no one to get upset about being traded.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 29, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Swisher is way down on the list
of guys to be worried about. He’s got bad numbers (especially in May), but his BABIP is way low. Despite all of his struggles, he’s still got a better OBP than any Sox OF from last year.
This is probably the worst performance we will see from him, and he’s still an upgrade over every 2007 OF. He’ll turn it around.
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on May 29, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade to get Gio back?
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 29, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Swisher is on pace for what, 13 homers?
by SSH2005 on May 29, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait
you’re saying he was on steroids last year, and now he is not?
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on May 29, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one can be sure but one has to wonder...
by SSH2005 on May 29, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So he risked getting tested and caught last year, but this year he's doing the good guy act?
Seriously, no one has even demonstrated tv degree to which steroids can help the ball player’s performance, yet that’s the first place you think to go? What a cliché.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on May 29, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can be sure that you're a real man...
...insinuating he’s on steroids. Check his BABIP, check his LD%, check his GB%—actually do some reasearch. He’s going to bounce back. Don’t go the jagbag route and assume anyone with a drop in power is on roids.
by Craig Grebeck on May 29, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
SSH is not prone to subtlety.
after 52 games this century: '08: up 2, '07: down 7.5, '06: down 1.5, '05: up 5, '04: up 2, '03: down 7.5, '02: down 2, '01: down 12.5, '00: up 1.5
by Toonderstrook on May 29, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CG, thanks for bringing up my favorite term from '07 -
Jagbag. You are the Man. Big smile.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 29, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, he's "The Kid From Rockford". Not the man...
Wait:
Let’s call him “Good Kid”. Wasn’t that Boudreau’s nic?
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 29, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep - when he was a player/manager
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 29, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Technically
I’m more “The Kid from Knox”
by Craig Grebeck on May 29, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do any of those stats affect his ability to hit a ball out of a ballpark?
Either he hits it far enough to reach the bleachers or he doesn’t.
by SSH2005 on May 29, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so you'd be bitching about his 13 home run pace
if he were batting .320 with a bunch of doubles?
after 52 games this century: '08: up 2, '07: down 7.5, '06: down 1.5, '05: up 5, '04: up 2, '03: down 7.5, '02: down 2, '01: down 12.5, '00: up 1.5
by Toonderstrook on May 29, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
If you want to assume that the only measure of a hitter’s power is HR, be my guest.
by Craig Grebeck on May 29, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's never been a big home run hitter, though.
35 home runs in 2006, but just 22 last year and 21 in 2005. He’s always been more of a gap hitter than anything else.
I’m not particularly worried about Swisher – the hits just aren’t falling in for him. He’s still getting good ABs and hitting line drives – he’s just hitting ‘em right at people. He’ll come around.
Now, I’m not so sure about Konerko or Thome…
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 29, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on May 29, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
he has to hit the ball first. The guy isnt a roider, come on
by Rockraines on May 29, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you being sarcastic about the roids yo?
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on May 29, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This Phony OC Crisis Maybe Good News
I’m not a big OC fan. My fear for the short-term has been that he’ll be nothing more than a replacement level SS and for the long-term that he’ll play well enough to be over-rated for supposedly good intangibles causing the Sox to re-sign him to large free agent contract. This tea-pot tempest may resolve both fears. First, if OC is pissed off and sure he’s leaving, that’s all the more reason to motivate into good production. I’m not a huge believer in the contract year theory but I don’t think it can hurt and maybe with OC, it will help. Second, having violated Kenny’s code of omerta, he’s much less likely to come back. Let’s all root for him to play well enough to help us win and then earn Type A status on the way out the door.
by Landfill on May 29, 2008 10:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Right in line with what I was thinking too - this all could be good
Provided he doesn’t disrupt the team
by Brush Back on May 29, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A big "provided."
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 29, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm really happy...
that the Sox and Orlando Cabrera are on the outs. I was worried that they’d give him a 2-3 year extension.
If Ramirez continues to improve, then maybe they’ll have a decent DP combination for the next several years.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 29, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed, this is great news...
Now we won’t lock up an aging and declining SS to a stupid long-term deal.
by SSH2005 on May 29, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like that "code of omerta."
Learn something new every day.
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 29, 2008 10:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oops, to Landfill.
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 29, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are a trader and don't know from Mafia?
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 29, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chicago / Cook County / State of Illinois politics are enough for me.
Gotta laugh (gallows laughter), now Thompson, is reproposing to Zell to buy Wrigley Field. WAFJ. Zell’s gonna squeeze every last cent out of the deal (which, IMO, was agreed to months ago, but is being spoon fed to the public).
Makes me want to puke.
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 29, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why wouldn't Zell...
simply sell the stadium along with the team? At least half the value of that team is wrapped up in that ballpark.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 29, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just exploring his options
He’ll make the best deal.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 29, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't thing any option is better than the state buying it, on Zell's terms.
This is Chicago, remember.
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 29, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One certainty -
Zell will make a fortune. It’s what he does.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 29, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactamente.
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 29, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This guy bought real estate for 100 years
and then he sold EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING in February 2007.
That’s as close to the top tick in the real estate market as you’re going to get.
And the State of Illinois is represented by James Thompson. Ha Ha Ha.
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 29, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who should be in prison along with Ryan
He was the Chairman of the Audit Committee for Hollinger when that other Canadian was stealing millions.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 29, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A gubernatorial tradition in the Land of Lincoln.
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 29, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FREE CONRAD BLACK!!!
after 52 games this century: '08: up 2, '07: down 7.5, '06: down 1.5, '05: up 5, '04: up 2, '03: down 7.5, '02: down 2, '01: down 12.5, '00: up 1.5
by Toonderstrook on May 29, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really, I don't thing any option is even close.
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 29, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Renovation of probably $500 million+?
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 29, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way...
game going on in Rochester right now -
Knights lead it 2-1, on a two-run homer by Jason Bourgeois. Josh Fields not in the lineup.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 29, 2008 10:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard Field's is on his way to Tampa.
But I’ll wait with you for the press release.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 29, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fields, not Field's
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 29, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will he be bringing Frango Mints?
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
by tailgater on May 29, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, but he'll marshall the troops
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 29, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting rumor...
but yeah, I’m waiting for a press release. The Sox have been taking things pretty slow with Fields.
By the way, Danny Richar is playing shortstop, and Juan Uribe is at second base. Chris Getz is in left field.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 29, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he can play passably there. The Missile is going to end up in Charlotte
Alexei is our only backup SS right now.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on May 29, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he's really on his way...
then probably first base, with Konerko going on the DL.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 29, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
comment and a question
(1) that makes too much sense to happen
(2) Cowley isnt the one reporting this is he? He’s like the anti- press release
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on May 29, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'd have to ask Chiburb...
where he heard this. Maybe he’s just yanking our collective chains.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 29, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
some people say...
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 29, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
those with the growing concerns
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 29, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you are yanking our collective chains.
And I was getting my hopes up.
Oh well.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 29, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the last thing we need:
an optimistic JRE.
Watch though: Cowley will Twitter it soon enough.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 29, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the heck is a "Twitter", anyway?
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 29, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 29, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
get this to Cowley on the grapevine...
Vermin is going to kill Johnny’s brother at the Savoy Theater tomorrow night. Pass it on…
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on May 29, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be nice
but Josh doesnt really play 1B, and despite his athleticism, you dont just stick a guy at 1B for several games when he hasnt even played there before.
by Rockraines on May 29, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Miguel Cabrera can do it...
so can Josh Fields.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 29, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard for
Evan Longoria and the Upton brother.
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on May 29, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eva Longoria and the Uptown Girls
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 29, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Juan Uribe...
makes a throwing error that leads to a run, and then gets it back with a two-out RBI single.
Bottom 5, Charlotte 3, Rochester 2.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 29, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Juan needs another 4-5 months of rehab
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
by tailgater on May 29, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh.
Six of one, half-dozen of the other.
Ramirez really isn’t a better hitter than Uribe, and Uribe’s better defensively.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 29, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that may be true now
but I see potential in Ramirez to become a better hitter. we know Uribe’s ceiling already, so we might as well give Alexei a shot (since it seems clear they’re not going to send him down to work on his game in the minors).
by Ryno on May 29, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe...
Ideally, I hope Uribe comes back and takes Pablo Ozuna’s job.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 29, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
I’d actually love Uribe as a backup infielder.
by Ryno on May 29, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would be a great idea...
We are stuck paying Uribe his $4.5 million any way you slice it. May as well dump the cheaper Ozuna and eat the rest of his salary (prorated $1.05 million for this season + $200,000 buyout for 2009) and call up Fields.
Dump Wise and Ozuna.
Add Fields and Uribe.
by SSH2005 on May 29, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want to see Fields...
unless there’s a spot for him to play every day.
If Konerko goes on the DL, fine. But he does the team no good sitting on the bench.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 29, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kind of tortured logic there
can help if playing all the time but can help not at all if playing less than that.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
by larry on May 29, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought logic was dead?
good to hear he survived. perhaps we can save him from his torturers and then he can run for president after serving in the Senate? (ba dum dum)
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on May 29, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Problem with Fields as a bench player...
is that he’s not capable of playing positions that the team needs a lot of help at. Konerko, Thome, and Crede aren’t getting more than the occasional day off. Fields isn’t going to help if he’s starting five games a month. As long as the team insists on seven relievers, Fields would just be a wasted bench spot.
Besides, this is just a gut feeling, but I don’t think Fields is the kind of player who can come off the bench cold and get a hit. He needs to be playing every day.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 29, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BP had an interesting blurb the other day..
..suggesting that teams use veteran starters out of the pen on their throw day. The argument being that while young pitchers need to have their IP watched closely, veteran pitchers can (in theory) handle more load than they are given.
by vince_ on May 29, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds interesting...
but I doubt any team will try it. Modern MLB teams are too risk-averse with their pitchers.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 29, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tell me Uribe would've ever faked a bunt and executed it
successfully. I think Slash handles the bat a little better – Uribe is obviously more powerful. Uribe’s ceiling is a known. Slash’s is still working its way upward.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 29, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, keep working the Slash thing
I don’t see it sticking. He already has the best nickname on the team (Cuban Missile)
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on May 29, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cuban Missile is not PC -
like “Venezuelan Strongman”. You got the “Cuban” thing is obviously a volatile subject, especialy in S. FL, and the “Missile” thing is not happening (negative connotation, like “crusade”). “Slash” does away with the incendiary politics. (What’s “Slash” in Spanish? Maybe “El Slashido”.)
Or maybe we use Ozzie’s new nickname – The Bone. (El Bono?)
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 29, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alexei's B-R page
shows Cuban Missile, and that’s validation enough for me.
Its also available to sponsor, so if you want to push Slashido, that would be a good forum…
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on May 29, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ozzie doesn't care Cuban Missile isn't PC!
SSS too!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on May 29, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps you mean, El Hueso
“the pulled bone” would be a good one, methinks. (El Hueso Envarado or El Hueso Tirado)
I still like the Cuban Missile because it hearkens back to the crisis in the 60’s. Other things that have crossed my mind are “Cuban Slap” or “Cuban Poke” because they allude to his fake bunt and also sound like they have sexual connotations, always a plus.
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on May 29, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
El Hueso Desgarrado?
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on May 29, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops, didn't realize I had already proposed the slap and poke names below
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on May 29, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we can call him the Cuban Slap or the Cuban Poke?
Slash just doesn’t sit right, stupid Kordell Stewart.
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on May 29, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Solo Homer...
by career minor-leaguer Darnell McDonald ties the game up.
Top 6, 3-3.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 29, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Garrett Jones homers...
for the Red Wings.
Rochester 4, Charlotte 3, Top 8.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 29, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Game over.
Chris Getz gets a double in the ninth, but is left stranded as the potential tying run at third.
Rochester 4, Charlotte 3.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 29, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doug Collins the new Bulls coach?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3417029
I took the "under".
by winningugly on May 29, 2008 11:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He didn't want to leave TNT originally...
but now that the Bulls have the #1 pick he jumped at the opportunity.
by SSH2005 on May 29, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ozzie Quote of the Year:
Paraphrased, since I read it IN the S-T, but can’t find it online:
“Ramirez is ok. I thought he pulled a muscle but he doesn’t have any. Maybe he pulled a bone”.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 29, 2008 11:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I liked that one as well
Go Ozzie!
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on May 29, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, I was just about to post this
Classic Ozzie ;-)
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on May 29, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
here's the direct quote
Second baseman Alexei Ramirez limped while scoring in the seventh inning and grabbed his leg before Guillen and trainer Herm Schneider attended to him. Ramirez, however, remained in the game.“I thought he pulled a muscle,” Guillen said. “[It was just] a cramp. I don’t know what kind of cramp. He doesn’t have a muscle. All I see are bones.”
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on May 29, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you! I trust the Herald reporter to get it right, or at least closer.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 29, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
got this from the trib, i think
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on May 29, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know this is the Land of Linkin, right?
hint hint
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on May 29, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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