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Batter's Box was at the Toronto game where OC reportedly called the press box. Here's his score card, which must be Canadian or something, plus their view on the play.

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This whole thing screams conspiracy

kudos to the sun times for exposing this scandal. i’m not sure if the white sox, or baseball for that matter, will recover from this.

"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "

by onlysoxfaninboston on May 29, 2008 1:42 PM CDT   0 recs

yes, doubtful

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 29, 2008 1:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

How can Super Q NOT be real?

Chumps I say to those who choose not to believe, I mean the dude rides a freakin’ unicorn…from Jayson Stark’s grumblings:

• Right on Q: Another question we could have posed in that opening section was this: Can Carlos Quentin win the home run title?

Scouts we’ve polled are a little dubious of that, and with reason. So far, 19.2 percent of Quentin’s fly balls have left the park—a higher percentage than David Ortiz, Chase Utley or Manny Ramirez. But Quentin is also a guy who had a .527 career slugging percentage in the minor leagues. So even if some of those balls turn into doubles over the last four months, the White Sox would still have themselves a heck of a player.

“I’ve heard a number of guys say, ‘Man, I sure missed on that guy.’ But I don’t know why we all did,” said one front-office man. “He was an uber-prospect at one time. Then he got banged up and kind of fell by the wayside. But I’ve seen him hit good pitching and really turn some stuff around. He’s proved he can handle the ball middle in, and he can handle the ball down and away, and he can sure as hell handle the ball middle-middle. So I don’t know what stops him from being real.”

"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "

by onlysoxfaninboston on May 29, 2008 1:54 PM CDT   0 recs

You forgot the !

When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...

by Chiburb on May 29, 2008 2:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

THIS is better than Watergate.

Pitching, defense and health.

by ballyb on May 29, 2008 2:03 PM CDT   0 recs

I'll FanShot it

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on May 29, 2008 2:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

does this mean anything?

he was playing at charlotte and now he will still play at charlotte right?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 29, 2008 3:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

seems kenny wanted jose reyes (if we can believe steve phillips)
’’Kenny is very aggressive as a general manager,’’ Phillips said. ’’He knows exactly what he wants and what he has to give up to get it. I remember when I was the Mets’ general manager, and Kenny called me and said, ‘I have to have [shortstop] Jose Reyes. Tell me what you need to say yes.’ And then he’d keep calling. You have to give him credit.’‘

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/969622,CST-SPT-soxfeat25.article

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 29, 2008 3:08 PM CDT   0 recs

Nice to know...

I’m surprised Phillips wasn’t stupid enough to trade Reyes.

by SSH2005 on May 29, 2008 3:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't think I would have started the coversation off so desperately.

My understanding is that you try and downplay the guy you are looking for and get the other manager to buy into him not being as good as it was thought. Maybe I am wrong, but if I was Kenny, I would have started the coversation at “So I was looking around for SS, and I skimmed across Reyes.”

by JoeCoolMan24 on May 29, 2008 3:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

kenny clearly doesn't know how to negotiate. he gets pantsed in trades ALL the time.

after 52 games this century: '08: up 2, '07: down 7.5, '06: down 1.5, '05: up 5, '04: up 2, '03: down 7.5, '02: down 2, '01: down 12.5, '00: up 1.5

by Toonderstrook on May 29, 2008 3:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's true.

Just read [i]Moneyball[/i].

by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 29, 2008 3:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

works both ways

an attempt to slow-roll the other GM might end negotiations before they start. whereas sounding like you’re willing to do whatever it takes might open up communication where there otherwise would’ve been none.

by Ryno on May 29, 2008 4:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

it's generally a good idea to have the other guy make the first offer on "price"

that’s pretty much what it sounds like KW was trying to get phillips to do.

The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg

I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb

by larry on May 29, 2008 4:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

wait, you mean KW is not entirely incompetent, especially vis-a-vis steve phillips?

after 52 games this century: '08: up 2, '07: down 7.5, '06: down 1.5, '05: up 5, '04: up 2, '03: down 7.5, '02: down 2, '01: down 12.5, '00: up 1.5

by Toonderstrook on May 29, 2008 4:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

not entirely. but he didn't sign andruw jones so he's obviously almost entirely incompetent.

The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg

I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb

by larry on May 29, 2008 4:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Depends on the style of the guy with whom you are negotiating

From the South – usually slow roll. From the Northeast – “what will it take?” comes across well.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on May 29, 2008 4:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

self-serving

sounds like Steve is really saying, “Look how smart I was for not trading Reyes”

Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!

by Nordhagen on May 29, 2008 3:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Most probably.

Pitching, defense and health.

by ballyb on May 29, 2008 4:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sox-Rays Thursday lineups
WHITE SOX
Cabrera, SS
Pierzynski, C
Quentin, LF
Dye, RF
Thome, DH
Konerko, 1B
Crede, 3B
Swisher, CF
Ramirez, 2B
Danks, P

TAMPA BAY
Iwamura, 2B
Crawford, LF
Upton, CF
Pena, 1B
Longoria, 3B
Navarro, C
Gomes, RF
Aybar, DH
Bartlett, SS
Jackson, P

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2008/05/sox-rays-thursd.html

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 29, 2008 3:14 PM CDT   0 recs

ML Fielding Winshares for SS

3.5 – OC

The next highest is:
2.2 – Aybar

by shaftr on May 29, 2008 4:32 PM CDT   0 recs

link?

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on May 29, 2008 5:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

here

http://www.hardballtimes.com/thtstats/main/index.php?view=winshares…

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 29, 2008 5:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

how is that computed?

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on May 29, 2008 5:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

how is that computed?

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on May 29, 2008 5:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

re

How are Win Shares calculated?

link from 2004 Win Shares Have Arrived

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 29, 2008 5:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

hitting is overrated

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 29, 2008 5:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

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