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by The Cheat on May 30, 2008 11:53 PM CDT
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PrintThe White Sox and Rays combined for 2 hits with runners in scoring position. The Rays hit, which capped a 2-out rally in the 3rd, plated a run. The Sox hit, which loaded the bases with 1 out in the second, didn't. That was the difference in the game.
The Sox had plenty of opportunities to score early in Friday's contest, but were unable to capitalize on any of them. In the second, third, and fourth innings the Sox had a runner on second base with nobody out, yet failed to score in each inning. Nick Swisher and Carlos Quentin double plays killed the first two opportunities, with the Thome-Konerko-Crede trio killing the other.
It was comical to hear Hawk and DJ praise Jermaine Dye for his jump and read of the ball on Joe Crede's single in the second. With Dye standing on second Crede hit a line drive into left field that fell in front of Carl Crawford. Dye got such a good jump and read he was able to make it into third base! All the way from second! Imagine if he didn't get a good jump.
The Sox must have the most hits with RISP that fail to plate a runner. Though I have no idea how to query that one to find out for sure.
Alexei Ramirez had a great game, making two nice plays at second base and hitting a HR. Even though he's playing great right now, if you listen to Hawk and DJ, he still is the walking embodiment of unpolished talent. Though I suppose if you compare Ramirez' output to that of the slow white guys, he does end up looking pretty good -- like a third grader next to a family of midgets.
Scott Linebrink broke the bullpen's stretch of 27 consecutive innings without allowing a run, which makes it virtually impossible to be angry the pen for Friday's loss.
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Back to the bench for Alexei, Profundo is the starter
“The Missile played pretty good,” Guillen said. “We need Uribe to play second base. I’m not going to say we’re a better ballclub, but we’re a better defensive club when Uribe is at second.”
“I’m going to take the opportunity when he’s playing well to play him. If he’s cold a little bit, give ‘the Missile’ (Ramirez) some at-bats or [ Pablo] Ozuna and take advantage of him.”
I love it when teams who struggle with their offense decide to bench players who are hitting to put in defensive guys who cant hit. Thats a good recipe for success.
Here is a puzzling statement, I know Hawk says this, but is scary that Ozzie thinks this. Uribe can carry any team in baseball. What.
“I think I figured out Uribe a little too late,” Guillen said. “You have to get the best out of him when he’s hot. When Uribe is hot, he can carry any ballclub in baseball. When Uribe is cold, he’s frozen.
by southsideirish71 on May 31, 2008 12:06 AM CDT reply actions
Well one of them is hitting
Let Alexei play until he goes cold, and then we can move his larger twin into place.
by southsideirish71 on May 31, 2008 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions
The weird thing is...
Last night, even Hawk and D.J. were talking about how hot Ramirez has been and how he is trying to show Ozzie that he should be starting at second base. They almost seemed to be advocating Ramirez as the starter over Uribe. But I’m sure if Ozzie makes Uribe the starter again, Hawk and D.J. will just start fluffing Taz and saying how he can “get hot at any time and carry the ballclub”.
If you average their bodies,
they’re and average man.
Welcome to the AZ SnakePit, the SB Nation blog about the Arizona Diamondbacks.
The first rule of SnakePit is – you do not talk about Carlos Quentin.
The second rule of SnakePit is – you DO NOT talk about Carlos Quentin.
they’re an average man.
Welcome to the AZ SnakePit, the SB Nation blog about the Arizona Diamondbacks.
The first rule of SnakePit is – you do not talk about Carlos Quentin.
The second rule of SnakePit is – you DO NOT talk about Carlos Quentin.
If they are the same player right now...
why not start the younger guy who still has some upside and can actually improve?
Ramirez in May: 58 AB / .293 AVG / .311 OBP / .431 SLG / .742 OPS
Those aren’t great numbers but they definitely look to be improving numbers. Ramirez still needs to learn how to take a walk but it’s not like Uribe is any good in that area either. And Ramirez made a couple very good defensive plays last night that Uribe may or may not have made.
Maybe
But I’d rather see Alexei get at-bats and develop as long as he’d producing.
But more importantly, it’s crazy to have Ramirez, Ozuna, and Uribe all on the team. If Ramirez isn’t starting, send him to AAA. If he is going to play, DFA Ozuna. Either way, call up Fields so Thome doesn’t hurt himself striking out against LHP.
by hitlesswonder on May 31, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Indeed...
Once Uribe is back, it will be stupid to have Ramirez, Uribe, and Ozuna all on the roster. Ozuna should be cut loose and Fields should be called up. And if you would rather see Fields getting more AB’s at AAA, then release Ozuna and sign Scott Hatteberg.
why hatteberg? do 38-year olds get better as they age?
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
not that one. he's looked utterly atrocious this year.
and, since he’s a lefty, i’m not all that sure how he would fit on this team. at any rate, the mets should be all over him
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
i think we can agree on that generally
however, a guy who can barely play first and hasn’t hit this year may not quite fit that assertion. especially if he’s a lefty. if the sox are going to go with a guy whose only skill is hitting, they should get someone who is right-handed.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
Which is why Fields is a much better option...
I was just giving another option for those who don’t want Fields “wasting away on the bench”, not that I agree with that notion.
there have been guys from day 1
who would be a better bat off the bench than ozuna, inside the system and out. the sox don’t want to dump him. if they haven’t yet, i sure can’t see them doing it for somebody like hatteberg.
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
you think
eduardo perez is still keeping himself in shape?
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
do you really believe they will dump ozuna?
i gave up any hope of that months ago.
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
the only way i see that happening
is if the sox sign kenny lofton. you know KW loves that guy. and you know KW will get around the deadline and think: sandy alomar? retired. carl everett? shoot, retired. roberto alomar? retired. who is there left for me to acquire for the eighth time? the other kenny. pull the trigger.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
Didn't Kenny get into a shouting match with Lofton behind the scenes...
when the team was watching movies in the clubhouse instead of preparing for their game, when they were playing like crap.
LOL!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
i feel ive heard this somewhere before...
When Swisher smiles because he cant catch up to 86 mph fastballs, or because he swung at a curve in the dirt... yeah, that makes me angry.
No they aren't.
They may be in the end. But, right now, you take the better hitter and comparable defensive player with much more upside….if they do this, send Ramirez down and get him used to playing short. This decision is beyond moronic. I see a ton of upside in Ramirez, and he has shown much greater chance of continuing this upswing vs. going the other way. Completely assanine.
The streak was up to 29 by the time Scott broke it, and I think it is only earned runs as Ehren had one unearned in the 8-2 loss to Cleveland
Though I certainly agree with the sentiment that the bullpen’s recent performance makes the walk-off HR easier to stomach. However having AJ attempt the bunt in the 3rd (and not succeed) made me reach for the Tums.
Matt Thornton...
Anyone else see him hit 98 MPH twice and 99 MPH once on the CSN gun reading last night? He appears to be our hardest thrower unless Jenks is still saving his velocity for a rainy day.
Wee Willie?
Willie Harris hit a three-run homer off Micah Owings to help the Nationals beat the Diamondbacks 7-4 on Friday.
Harris nearly doubled his RBI total from 4-7. He played second base tonight over the slumping Felipe Lopez. The Nats are going to be willing to try anything that works in their search for more offense, so there’s a good chance Harris will get at least one more start this weekend.
Borowski almost blew the save last night...
Thanks to a great catch from Grady Sizemore, Joe Borowski was able to close out a one-run game against the Royals on Friday for his fourth save.
With the tying run on second, Jose Guillen smashed a liner to center that Sizemore caught on the run before running into the wall. Borowski has pitched three scoreless innings since coming off the DL a week ago.
Dye's baserunning...
Farmer and Stone ripped on Dye’s baserunning last night. They said that since Dye ran on a ball that Crawford may or may not have caught and he was already near third base, he may as well try to run home instead of holding short of third base because if Crawford catches the ball, Dye would have been doubled off either way. That would have been a run.
Nick Swisher.
Electroconvulsive therapy.
ASAP.
Welcome to the AZ SnakePit, the SB Nation blog about the Arizona Diamondbacks.
The first rule of SnakePit is – you do not talk about Carlos Quentin.
The second rule of SnakePit is – you DO NOT talk about Carlos Quentin.
AJ not only bunted poorly
he also ran himself into an out later in the game. I do not know if AJ ran on his own or our alert first-base coach, Baines, I believe, told him “you can make it”. He was out without a slide. Our hitters are unfamiliar with choking up on the bat when you need a hit we seem to all swing from the heels-Thome, Dye, Konerko, Crede, Swisher, Akexi, Uribe[as I recall] and AJ. If this season doesn’t do me in I will be amazed.
if you're like this when they're winning the division, you just might be in trouble if they fall in the standings.
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
What a sweet win it would be toniight....
then tomorrow’s game would only decide whether it was a great trip or good trip….a loss tonight means tomorrow’s game decides whether it was a good trip/decent trip.
Not sure this makes sense…anyway, say we lose tonight/tommorrow it would suck to come home on a three-game skid…but I don’t think it’s horrible to go 3-4 at CLE and TB.
One more thought....
I guess if Thome/Swisher are really fighting it still come late July…..perhaps Randy Winn could be a trade target. He’s signed for 8.5 mil next year…has a limited no trade clause.
Sox-Tampa
Too bad we couldn’t hit a little last night. It is always a shame to waste good pitching. Something has to be done with Swisher. Either start performing or sit down. There are a couple other guys close to the same situation.
By the way, can anyone tell me why Comcast Sports can’t show the Sox until the game is an hour old?
FOX SPORTS has exclusive rights to MLB during the 2:55 to 6:00 time slot
CST….thus no other outlet (CABLE, INTERNET) can televise during this time.
No...
CSN, but the first hour won’t be televised because of MLB’s deal with FOX. So CSN will join the game in progress.
Sox-Tampa
Thanks Stanchar for clarifying that!
When there are such weak bullpens out there...
How does this guy clear waivers?
Brandon Medders cleared waivers and will head to Triple-A Tuscon.
It’s a bit of a surprise no team tried to claim Medders. He was 1-0 with a 4.12 ERA in 18 appearances with the Diamondbacks. He’ll be the first reliever called up if something goes wrong with the big club.
Source: East Valley Tribune
because he's no better than your average AAAA reliever?
he’s the very definition of replacement level. like masset, everyone’s got medders, too.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
today's game
Guillen indicated Toby Hall would get the start behind the plate against Kazmir, carrying a .533 average (8-for-15) against left-handers this season. Brian Anderson also will play on Saturday, although Guillen wouldn’t commit to where he’s starting.http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080531&content_id=2804510&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws...
Guillen joked once again on Friday as to how his Tampa Bay jersey retirement ceremony would take place on Sunday afternoon at Tropicana Field. Guillen played one uneventful year for the Rays in 2000, hitting .243 before retiring. Guillen also has pointed out he’s the first Tampa Bay player to become a big league manager.
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
taz?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
SoxTalk not happy with The Cheat...
I will also make one comment regarding Cheat’s Blog. We simply made a request, no strong-arming no nothing. I won’t get in the details of the request but nowhere did we demand anything, we solely stated our reasoning behind our actions and that the person concerned wanted us to reach out (since they did not know who ran the blog). I’m fully aware that Cheat’s blog is his business and I completely respect his decision. I disagree with the way he handled the situation (ie, throwing Soxtalk under the bus even though the information would have never been out there without Soxtalk, nor did I ever have to provide any additional information I provided him with regarding the situation) but I’m more than willing to take such heat for trying to protect a poster.
As for “Cheat”, he’s been anonymous for years. The guy who runs that networks of blogs … at least his identity is in the open, unlike the mango tree dweller. Not surprising at all that an anonymous blogger would throw anyone or any website under the bus, it’s easy when you’re anonymous. You are not anonymous Jason, and you did the right thing here.
i don't know if it was ever up.
i checked, and i think ssh did too, right after cheat mentioned he had responded and it was nowhere to be found.
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
cheat's response wasn't "gene honda civic"
pointing out “the big lead” and others also quoting from soxtalk?
by thatshortkid on May 31, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
My response, the one that got me banned --
or at least I assume I’m banned—was to the not-so-veiled shot at me not “caring” about posters like the good people at Soxtalk.
It was simply this:
Since I care about you guys here are two independent sites that are willing to ruin a guys careerhttp://www.soxandthecity.net/site/index.php/SABR-Rattling/The-Sox-Farm-System-is-Fucked.html
I assume those people have been banned as well, for, you know, referencing an event which occurred. and included the quotes “I’m in no danger of losing my job” and “I can not be fired for this”
AIM: SouthSideCheat
wow. they have tougher guidelines than let's go tribe.
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
SoxTalk used to be pretty good...
but now it is turning more and more into the hell-hole trash-heap that is WSI. SoxTalk has a couple older posters (who are also Admins) and they seem to think that their ridiculous opinions on baseball are more important than everyone else’s, just because they are older—this is WSI personified. SoxTalk is also afraid to bash anyone or anything related to the White Sox, just in case they may one day do a lame interview for their site. The Jeff Bajenaru love at SoxTalk a couple years back was fucking hilarious. I think Brandon McCarthy posted there as well so they also polished his knob.
Cheat, they did say, however, that no one was banned…
http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=65130&view=findpost&p=1652405
I assume that includes you as well.
how in the hell do you even know where to start over there? the format just looks so messy.
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
WSI is even worse...
And you might even lose your lunch when you see all the posts about calling up Jerry Owens or trading for Juan Pierre. They were all about Owens starting over Quentin during Spring Training. WSI could be the dumbest collection of baseball minds ever assembled.
I could probably hop on my neighbors network and find out
but that would take too much effort
AIM: SouthSideCheat
yep
I just hopped on and made a post—I’m not “banned” but Kap, essentially the IT for the site, has instituted an effective ban of my IP
AIM: SouthSideCheat
that's like the least effective 'security' option ever
by explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit on May 31, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Funny how Chisoxfn said that no one was banned...
yet they ban your IP address. What a cowardly fucking douchebag.
What a lying coward...
I’m cleaning up the last couple posts from this thread and closing it. The point of this thread was to answer the questions as to what happened to Bureau and I believe those have been answered. For any further comments, feel free to send any of the admins/mods PM’s and we’ll be happy to answer/respond to them.Note to Cheat: I would have kept your last post up but I think PM’s between one member and another member should be private. If you want to make some edits and make any further points you want, feel free to shoot them to me in a PM and I can put that in a post (I don’t want it to come off as if I’m trying to silence anything). More important than that, I don’t want this thread turning into a public pissing match.
I'm not really a message board guy
Because I like places with discussion leaders, as it seems to be more focused. But between this and all the stuff I hear about WSI, are White Sox boards unusually sensitive?
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
more focused and infinitely more navigable.
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Nah
standard message board behavior
though it does remind me of a blast from the past… runs to search hard drive
AIM: SouthSideCheat
This was from a blowup about 3 years ago on Soxtalk
I saved it because I thought it was funny
Seems all the more relevant now that they’re trying to pretend an event didn’t happen by making it disappear from the internet, you know, like the Chinese government
AIM: SouthSideCheat
I still think it's funny that...
Bureau Employee offered the information up and even said that he couldn’t be fired by posting the information. Then, after ripping on Alan Regier and even hinting that he was in on the conspiracy with Dave Wilder, he wants his posts removed because Alan Regier never ends up being fired by the White Sox.
I think it's ironic that they take a shot at my anonymity
I made a conscious decision to become anonymous on the internet about 5 years ago. I dropped my old AIM and email accounts and picked up the moniker “The Cheat” and dachort where cheat was not available. It was deliberate as I decided my internet usage would not encroach on my real life. It was a smart decision, I think, based on the reactions I’ve seen to some of the recent outings of formerly anonymous blog owners.
Contrast my anonymity with that of Bureau, who proclaimed that he couldn’t be fired then had poster’s remorse and forced Soxtalk to delete any reference to the offending posts. I understand that anything on the internet is freely available to anyone and everyone, and have acted accordingly. He… did not.
There’s more than a little bit of irony there
AIM: SouthSideCheat
I think you made a good choice
If I had enough of a profile (or, you know, a real job) I likely would take the same precautions.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
I wish I could've
Ultimately, my cover would’ve been blown one way or another, so I figured I should measure my words from the start.
Bureau would’ve done himself a big favor by … not thunderously proclaiming he couldn’t get fired. If he prefaced it with “I might have to delete this for privacy reasons at some point, so read it while you can,” there’d be more reason for sympathy.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
I still doubt I would have taken the post down
but had he not made those claims, I certainly would be less vigilant in my attempts to “ruin a guys career”
AIM: SouthSideCheat
I'm getting a Red X
For that image and others. I don’t know if they’re having issues with the assets.sbnation.com domain, but when I try to go directly to the image, it looks like SedoParking has parked on it.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
Yeah, it's weird
I’m seeing some avatars fine, but others are blank (fanshot images, this one, etc). Maybe it’s the network here.
On a related note, I, too, can get to SoxTalk.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
Plus wasn't Cheat's name outed?
I believe Cheat wrote a preview on the Sox for another site (hardball times perhaps, though that’s just a guess) and a name was attached to it, other than just “The Cheat”
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
Article in question
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/five-questions-chicago-white-sox3/
Though judging by Cheat’s comment which I just noticed that could be a pseudonym as well or the guy that penned the questions
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
the classic first and middle names, no last, pseudonym?
at any rate, i don’t care who cheat is. i don’t really want people to know who i am, either. and i have no problem with anonymous posting. very american. you know, publius, federal farmer, mark twain, ol’ dirty bastard.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
The guy calling Cheat out in that second quote...
that’s rather ironic that he chooses to talk about anonymity - he originally got banned and then came back under another name, denying that he was the same poster who got banned. He actually got banned again - or I think he got banned, or suspended, I’m not really sure. He engages in personal attacks and is not too fond of saber-types; basically, old and ignorant as hell (sorry WU, I’m not trying to generalize here - you’re certainly in no way ignorant, which makes you somewhat likeable, dare I say even loveable!) - but because he appears to be buddy-buddy with some of the admins, he’s been allowed back now on a couple of different occasions.
I think I’ve basically been a step away at several times at that site from being asked to leave, but at this point it’s not worth the effort to try and argue all the shit that goes on over there. There are very few posters who have a clue (Jason is one—it’s a shame he doesn’t bring his scouting perspective over here, because he knows what the hell he’s talking about). I do have some friends over there, but as I’ve mentioned, it’s not worth filing through all the crap.
Sorry if this turned into a rant of sorts.
JimH ( 29th and Obvious) is like that turd that you can't flush
He wrote an open petition asking for my banishment from the site a few weeks ago. He has always had a thing about Cheat, probably because blogging is some devil thing that he can’t wrap himself around. I remember the good old days when he would challenge people to a fight on the site. Now he thinks he is the higher moral standard of soxtalk. Thats rich.
Remember Keith, you sabr metric types are the end of baseball as we know it. You can get better information hanging out at the local pubs in the bridgeport area. Or at least thats his reasoning. I feel like this is the end of a Scooby Doo episode. If it wasnt for you damn kids, I would get away with it.
by southsideirish71 on May 31, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
that's hilarious
I wrote my “ironic” post before I hopped on over there… I attributed it to one of the admins. All the more funny coming from that guy, who incidentally I had no idea was the infamous JimH who has challenged me to a fight in the past. I don’t read or reply to much over there anymore, but would like to continue to have the opportunity in the rare instance that I was so inclined.
AIM: SouthSideCheat
I used to openly rip that JimH douchebag...
I didn’t care about getting banned from SoxTalk since it is almost as awful as WSI now anyways.
By the way, JimH challenged me to a fight via personal messages on SoxTalk as well...
He also got the pathetic Admins to ban me. I am pretty sure that the poster quickman is his gay lover.
You'll like this Cheat...
I haven’t logged into SoxTalk for ages because they restricted my ability to post there. However, I can still log into SoxTalk and see my Personal Messages. And I just noticed this PM from one of SoxTalk’s “Global Moderators” named knightni from back on May 5th. It’s funny that I posted earlier that all SoxTalk cares about is not offending anyone involved with the White Sox because they are just hoping for interviews with anyone in the White Sox organization. Knightni indicates that I was correct in his PM to me…
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1949/knightniyw7.jpg
Hilarious and pathetic.
might be construed as a negative by the sox, eh
yup, these guys really want to have an open forum.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
you challenged me to a fight
or said you would challenge me. one of those.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
You talked about my wife -- that's a no-no in my book...
and it has nothing to do with posting comments about the White Sox.
ah.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
why hit a HR
when he could’ve beat out a throw to 1st, distract carlos marmol on the basepaths, only to get thrown out trying to steal second pulling his precious groin in the process
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on May 31, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
tonight's lineup - swisher to #9
he White Sox haven’t announced their roster move yet, but outfielder DeWayne Wise will have to clear waivers to stay in the organization since his name isn’t on the lineup card.
WHITE SOX
Cabrera ss
Ramirez 2b
Quentin lf
Dye rf
Konerko dh
Crede 3b
Hall c
Anderson cf
Swisher 1b
Vazquez p
RAYS
Iwamura 2b
Crawford lf
Upton cf
Pena 1b
Longoria 3b
Floyd dh
Navarro c
Hinske rf
Bartlett ss
Kazmir p
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
Swish is having some terrible luck
every time I catch a game, he ends up lining out somewhere.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
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