Game 56: White Sox (30-24) @ Rays (33-22)
by The Wizard on May 31, 2008 4:15 PM CDT
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PrintChicago White Sox at Tampa Bay Rays, May 31, 2008 5:10 PM CDT
Javier Vazquez (RHP) vs. Scott Kazmir (LHP)
Time: 5:10 p.m. CT, TV: CSN (6:05 p.m.), Radio: WSCR AM-670 (B-R preview, Live Boxscore; 2007 MLB Gameday; 2008 MLB Gameday)
GO SOX!
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Still no lineups.
Nor is there an official Uribe transaction, as of yet.
I just noticed that the White Sox acquired RHP Jim Brower from the Reds for cash. He wasn’t added to the 40-man and will likely pitch for Charlotte.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 31, 2008 4:17 PM CDT reply actions
Or maybe it was the Cubs that got Brower.
The transaction is actually a bit ambiguous.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 31, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
it was the sox.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
It looks like you are correct that it was the White Sox...
Chicago White Sox
Acquired nonroster RHP Jim Brower from the Reds for cash.
Weird that Rotoworld reported that it was the Cubs who acquired Brower…
Cubs acquired RHP Jim Brower from the Reds for cash considerations.
He’ll head to Triple-A Iowa. Brower, who made a couple of appearances for the Yankees last season, had a 2.88 ERA as a reliever for Louisville.
see the other thread for the lineups
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
Should be an interesting matchup tonight
This series has the playoff feel. Too bad the Rays fans don’t see it like that and go to the damn park.
Anyway away I go in a little while for dinner and drinks. Its the Tdogg’s birthday.
Wow Swisher in the 9th spot.
I actually kind of like it right now but man do they need him to begin to hit his weight.
Vazquez at his best
will fit our needs. We need this game, I believe.
Fox Game
If it ends early, do they take the blackout off? LAD/NYM in the bottom of the 7th
I have Direct TV
and it is not showing the Sox game in my area of Florida.
ARAM WITH A 2B TO DEEP RIGHT!
SORRY JUAN…..SUCKS, EH?
Glad to see Thome sitting
we need some hits and then hits with MOB.
Jermaine hit an at-'em ball.
Smoked it right to Upton.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
gardner-webb bulldogs?
anyone else see that at the top for the score of the game on the main page?
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
Yeah I just got an email
I was coming here to post. I can’t get into spectics, because I don’t know them, but there’s somethign wrong with the baseball data right now.. Which is why there was no lineup, and I’m sure you can find some more garner-webb-like errors if you looked real hard right now…
titlebar of this thread for example
AIM: SouthSideCheat
the sbn data operator must have gone nuts!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Shit...2nd and 3rd 1 out for Pena....
this game could be over before it’s on at 6.
Press box phone alert
Pickoff throw went off OC’s mitt and into center. Runners on second and third instead of first and second. Error charged to Cabrera as of now.
Big strikeout of Pena, though.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
Ring-ring, ring-ring.
Dear Ozzie,
Please prove you have my back and make sure Javy gets that error and not me.
Love,
OC
Big comeback by Javy
Struck out Pena with a changeup, and Longoria with a curve.
OC apologized to Javy on the field, so we’ll see.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
Hey, I know its my fault, but I still gotta call the scorer and throw you under the bus.
After all, you’re not gonna get a gold glove anyways.
How long
are we going to have to read these lame jokes? A whole city brainwashed by an idiot like Joe Cowley…
relax
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
You can't tell me
that wasn’t the most drawn out story about NOTHING ever. Reminded me of that episode of Seinfeld.
I'm with ya there
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Cowley reporting it doesn't make it less true.
Most of us know it doesn’t mean anything for the game or the team, but that doesn’t mean its not annoying to me that a player that should have 4-5 errors complains and keeps it to 1. Even if the ones he complained about weren’t errors, there were a bunch that were never called. Either let it all even out, or call the scorer for those too and take a few ER off the pitcher’s back.
so it doesn't mean anything...but it annoys you?
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
i'm just not understanding
it doesn’t mean anything for the game or the team but you care? why? seriously, this is people magazine, tmz stuff. are you a gossipy 44 year old woman or something?
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
Yes, I prefer to think of the baseball players as people and am interested in their personalities, good or bad.
Rather than cardboard rectangles with numbers on the back.
Sorry we can’t all be like you.
hmm, i didn't know we had many female posters, let alone of that age. interesting. watch out for WU.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
Kazmir looking to be the first Rays pitcher ever to win 5 in a month.
Says Farmer. Kinda feel bad that the kid is gonna get lit up. Clearly.
no doubt
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
C'mon Brian
show us what you have been taught by Walker.
Way to get picked off Joe...
because ya just so many chance with RISP against Kaz.
I do not have a live feed
how did Crede get picked off? Where is our baserunning coach? Who is our baserunning coach?
Basic pickoff play, second baseman covering
Crede was back standing. Foot came down on the bag, then tag on the leg, not exactly bang-bang.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
Crede was safe, handily
Ozzie came out to argue and then waved at the umpire, saying, “Screw it.”
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
it's not like we'll need it
here comes the onslaught
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Cowley twitters
Kazmir vs. Vazquez: over and under on total hits is 13. Also, Country Night at the Trop: over and under on fans with missing teeth is most.
Real quick inning for Javy, which he needed.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
Swisher got on base! *jaw drops*
Will...I...be...able...to...play...softball...tomorrow?
Oh, no, Mr. Scioscia. At this time tomorrow, you'll barely be able to breathe.
is the month during the season?
:p
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
What happened to Quentin and Anderson
was there a collision , an error, whose fault, if any?
No collision
Quentin misread a liner, dove when he might not have had to, ball glanced off his glove.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
So, what are the odds we score more than two runs?
I’m going to go with 65:1 right now.
Will...I...be...able...to...play...softball...tomorrow?
Oh, no, Mr. Scioscia. At this time tomorrow, you'll barely be able to breathe.
So at what point does the offense start to click
Its almost June, the cold weather is gone, and we play in a bandbox. I keep flipping those cards and waiting for the magic to happen.
by southsideirish71 on May 31, 2008 6:35 PM CDT reply actions
There's a lot to hate about the Rays
Crap stadium, young pitchers that own us, the kind of speed (combined with hitting ability) we’d like to have, changing their name to appease religious nutjobs…
that's routine for paulie
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
Call me crazy....
...but I don’t think Konerko gets there.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
you crazy
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
no
he’s batshit crazy! clearly
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
in the pit of my gut
...this team feels like a paper tiger. They can’t hit for shit. And when they do it’s sporadic.
nah i just focus
on the standings.
Seriously, we ended up 9th in the league in runs scored in ‘05 and are 7th now.
meesa stike out
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
meesa sorry!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Your advanced age (compared to the teeming masses of comparative
zygotes posting here – no offense, youngsters) is showing.
I took the "under".
Note to self, don't do yardwork while listening to Sox not winning.
I didn’t like the flowers that got weedwhacked anyways.
ace pitcher meet 4th outfielder
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
I love the Sox's pitching.
Unlike the offense, it makes me happy
Only guys with big salaries like me can afford a hat like that... HEY I'm a guy like me!
wha?
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
Cuz he has
Vazquez on his fantasy team or something. That’s the only way one could be happy with a game like today’s.
Weak, yes, I know.
seemed like a more general statement but okay
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
OC -> ER?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
time for Q to earn his money
and our adulation
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
note to Q
get used to it.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
OC is funny
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
Padding his stats
We know he loves himself some stats….
by hitlesswonder on May 31, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
You guys are kidding right?
So Ozzie demands more aggressive baserunning, this guy goes, and he’s an asshole? Wow.
Trick question...
What would you rather do?... Be forced to watch a tape of this game or go see Sex in the City?
will there be titties?
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
layup for somebody...
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
Uribe did enter the game as a defensive replacement.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
Rays fans just woke up
WE WANNA SEE TRACE, DADGUMMIT.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
Jesus, MLB.tv is annoying
I know I’m watching MLB.tv. You don’t have to keep making ballplayers tell me.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
brian anderson on deck
scary, that.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
He's down on one knee
He’s begging you please to throw home.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
and that
is why you’d rather swisher was batting 8 and not BA.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
Grant Balfour, all juiced up
What are you saying, DJ?
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
The magic 8 ball that ozzie uses
Didnt know that Thome sucks versus Loogies
by southsideirish71 on May 31, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Well he wants to bench one of them
So he can play his larger, rounder guy in the name of defense.
by southsideirish71 on May 31, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
We hit more flyballs than just about every team in baseballl
there’s a small correlation there
AIM: SouthSideCheat
Low and Away
Shuts down the back shoulder dipping, lifting and pulling attack.
by southsideirish71 on May 31, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
We got beat by a great pitcher
This one doesn’t hurt that bad. It happens.
Last night, tho, is a different story.
Wait till Cy Sonnenshein gets another crack with his changeup
by southsideirish71 on May 31, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Cy Sonnanstine against Buehrle and his 5.27 ERA...
May as well be happy with the one game the Sox won against the Rays.
Well which one do you want to trade
Buerhle has a NTC
Count is our least tradeable guy, based on age.
Trading the rest is stupid.
by southsideirish71 on May 31, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
i'd have no problem with that
now, vazquez. there’s a guy i wouldn’t trade.
seriously, i would consider that. it would depend upon what you could get in return, though. i’m not sure there’s a team out there that’s looking for a pitcher like javy and also has a surplus of commensurate offense.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
Sure trade Vazquez
Replace him with Broadway and go to battle for the rest of the year with 3 young kids. Hope that superstar stick you got can score 5 on his own.
by southsideirish71 on May 31, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I like Vasquez alot. I enjoy watching him pitch. But I think he’s the best trade bait of all the starters.
Well this team does one thing well
And that is pitch. Unless you are getting large amounts of offense back, I wouldnt mess with the pitching. You ditch Vazquez and put Broadway up here and this will get ugly quickly. One hitter isnt fixing this.
I would call all the vets into a meeting and tell them. You love Walker, and he is a great guy. You have until the end of June to fix your hitting. If by the end of June this offense is still broken he will be the first of a few moves we will make.
by southsideirish71 on May 31, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
to play devil's advocate
it might get ugly at the back end of the rotation. but, as things stand right now, it doesn’t seem to be mattering a great deal if someone is giving up 2 runs or 5. if you think the offense is going to turn around, don’t make the move. but if it’s not…well, it may not matter much in the long run. and don’t forget there’s magic.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
We’ll see if Swisher comes around by All Star break. Personally, I’d sit Konerko till that hand is totally healed.
well, there's your issue
swisher coming around will offset the cooling quentin inevitably is/will experience. sitting konerko would mean brian anderson or juan uribe/alexei ramirez playing.
focusing on these things in the abstract by saying things like “one hitter isn’t fixing this” is sort of missing the point. one pitcher isn’t going to save things, either. you do a deal if you think the your team will be better off in the net runs column. if you think the player(s) you slot in will be better than they player(s) they replace, it’s a simple decision.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
Did anyone else laugh hysterically...
when Hawk said that he thought the Sox were eventually going to score some runs off of Kazmir?
Like it or not..
We basically have to stick with Thome and Paulie (at least for now)... if they get hot… great. If not well then we may be screwed
injury
the only way. and, judging by PK, it’s serious injury.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
Can't be sure it's a serious injury based on production...
Swisher isn’t injured and he is as awful as Konerko right now.
i meant that the injury would have to be serious to get them out of the lineup
PKs injury apparently isn’t serious enough to do that.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
I hate the whole "I gotta be a man and play through the pain" bullshit...
It’s hurting the team so take a damn seat on the pine.
speaking of injury
seems like fields is clearly healthy.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
On to tomorrow
My Dad says we’re sitting 20 rows behind the Sox dugout (sounds like a huge Tampa crowd again). Looks like we’re in for a fast game with the pitching matchup.
Gotta eke out a split here – it would be tremendous.
I took the "under".
Wait'll you have your kid
You’ll be dreaming a lot. You never know…
And don’t call me Shirley.
I took the "under".
Already did... on May 22, 2008 at 10:01 P.M.
Small littler duder - 5 pounds, 10 ounces. But he is definitely a White Sox fan - born on Carlton Fisk Day right after the Sox swept Cleveland.
have him hang out with your boy juan
or ray king. or toby. or whoever else you’ve made fun of for being fat. and congrats.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
Congrats! Did I miss the post? Or did you not announce it?
Get some sleep – you’re gonna need it.
I took the "under".
Congrats man
The sleep dep is probably the hardest thing of a newborn. Once you get them sleeping through the night, then they lull you into a false sense of security. You are safe until they start to get mobile, then hide all of the stuff you dont want broke. Right now I have one in that great, about 4 years old asking Why ever 6 seconds. I am convinced that if we record a 4 year old going through his Why routine, we could break everyone at Guantanamo.
by southsideirish71 on May 31, 2008 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Do a YouTube search for Louie CK
if wou want to see the funniest discourse ever on 4 year olds. Describes his conversations with his daughter and the “why” stage. Hilarious, because he seethes when describing it.
I took the "under".
It's ridiculous...
My wife is breast-feeding and she has to wake up every 2 – 3 hours to feed him. I have to get up and change his diapers all the time. I can’t believe these little monsters eat, sleep, pee, and crap so much.
Wait till you get away from breast feeding
Thats when the diapers start to peel the paint from the walls. These little poops are nothing, breast milk just runs through them. Wait till they start packing in some solids, and you think something died in their crib. Yikes.
by southsideirish71 on Jun 1, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Can someone tell Joe Cowley?
That “nada” is spelled with one d?
I want to thank the...
Twins, Indians, and Tigers for all losing last night so the Sox can maintain the same lead.
The Yankees are coming up big for us.
The sad thing is that...
with any sort of offense the past two games (instead of 1 run in 18 innings) we could have a 4 game lead over the Twinkies right now.
comparison of this year v. last year
not necessarily the greatest stats to use but still interesting.
The following is a look at the Sox’s statistics after two months, compared to their stats after May 31, 2007:
2007 record: 24-25
2008 record: 30-25
Jermaine Dye, 2007: .239 batting average, 10 homers, 28 RBIs
Dye, 2008: .293-10-23
Paul Konerko, 2007: .229-7-26
Konerko, 2008: .206-6-24
Jim Thome, 2007: .300-6-16
Thome, 2008: .207-10-28
A.J. Pierzynski, 2007: .255-8-20
Pierzynski, 2008: .279-3-19
Mark Buehrle, 2007: 2-2, 3.66 ERA, 10 HRs allowed
Buehrle, 2008: 2-6, 5.26, 6
Javier Vazquez, 2007: 2-3, 4.50,8
Vazquez, 2008: 5-4, 3.43, 7
Jose Contreras, 2007: 4-5, 4.45, 4
Contreras, 2008: 5-3, 2.89, 3
John Danks, 2007: 3-5, 4.59, 10
Danks, 2008: 4-4, 2.86, 4
Bobby Jenks, 2007: 2.70 ERA, 14 saves
Jenks, 2008: 1.61, 14 saves
Matt Thornton, 2007: 3.38 ERA
Thornton, 2008: 3.20
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2008/05/saturdays-recap.html
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
And...............................................Nick Masset.
2007 — 24.1 IP, 6.35 ERA
2008 — 24 IP, 3.38 ERA
Welcome to the AZ SnakePit, the SB Nation blog about the Arizona Diamondbacks.
The first rule of SnakePit is – you do not talk about Carlos Quentin.
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I know those are Mark Gonzalez's numbers...
and not yours, but BA-HR-RBI doesn’t really say a whole lot about offensive performance.
Neither does ERA for relievers, for that matter.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jun 1, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
thanks jer. which is probably why i included that preface, eh?
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
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