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is the diirector here?
larry?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
yeah.
just so you know, based on the proposed timing of john, i think i may only be around for the first pick. you’re in charge for the rest. sorry about that. i’ve got a big deal that i’m working on and will be away from the computer most of the afternoon. the only thing i’d say is that jordan danks should be taken if available (both for amusement and because it makes sense at 86) and i’d lean towards position players from the college level in the later rounds. but do whatever you think.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
what happens if smoak is gone before 8 and wiz is forced to head out to a watering hole?
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
good question!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
he gone
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
ouch. #3????
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
no
poof, he gone
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
ok
btw, if anyone wants to propose something do it
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
after all the talk and all the ups and downs
tampa goes with alvarez. could have done that pick last september apparently.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
larry's list
1. tim beckham
2. pedro alvarez
3. buster posey
4. kyle skipworth
5. justin smoak
6. brian matusz
7. gordon beckham
8. aaron crow
I’d add hosmer in mine
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
smoak is gone at #3...
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
one of your non-top 10 gone. stupid bonus baby.
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
wow. overdraft of alonso, in my opinion. i guess they wanted a 1B badly.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
we're gonna get a catcher, i think. sweet.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
can't believe he's still sitting there.
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
shit.
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
got him.skipworth. awesome.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
yess
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
way to bust in on that guy trying to steal your premiership
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
i forgot to check in. my fault. too much shit going on.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
well, congratulations on finding your #4 at #8.
that’s probably one of the better feelings a gm will get if they have strong feelings about a guy.
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
matusz was real tempting, the nats got a steal there
but i have a natural aversion to pitchers and i didn’t see him as a potential “star.” skipworth has big upside and is a premium postion.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
so the sox and nats got steals
and g. beckham and alonso overdrafted?
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
dunno if we got a steal per se
there’s a wide range of opinion over skipworth. g. beckham was an overdraft and i’d say alonso was, too. but we’ll know in a few years.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
of course.
just doing the judge the draft on the morning of the draft thing.
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
wiz, if not skipworth or posey
what are your thoughts on beckham v. matusz?
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
forget that
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
matuz
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
skip
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
that had the potential to get really confusing...
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
yes
between matuz and g.beck I was matuz
but skip(worth)n trumps both!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
the twinkies snapped william wallace
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
no love for j.d.
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
even with skipworth available?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
not in the mood to do the research,
but would it be an extraordinary draft if the first pitcher wasn’t taken until 9, and only two in the top 10?
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
alright, i did it anyway, and it would make this draft extraordinary.
the lowest the first pitcher was ever taken in the mlb first-year amateur draft was #6 in ‘05. three other times since 1965 the first pitcher was taken at #4. in the other ~40 drafts, a pitcher was always selected with one of the top three picks.
accordingly, at least one pitcher has been drafted in the top 10 of every draft. never has only one pitcher been selected in the top 10. two of the top ten selections have been pitchers 5 times, with the most recent being 1980 (the others are 1979, 1978, 1973, and 1968). so, again, in the other ~ 40 drafts, at least three pitchers have been among the top ten choices.
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
it was tough
feel free to destroy me like sox fans will inevitably destroy KW for whomever he picks.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
I can't...
I had skipworth 5th on my board ahead of the pitchers… I never expected either of them to get to us… It’s one of those situations where you don’t really know how you feel until it happens…
As I read down the page, I was like Matusz is the obvious choice…
AIM: SouthSideCheat
who should we pick at the supplemental round?
oh wait…
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
can't we trade kirk hinrich, larry hughes, and next year's 2nd round pick for a supplemental choice now? ;-)
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
how about hawk, dj and southpaw?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
i'd throw in the chevy pride girls while we're cleaning house.
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
wiz....he's stillllll there!
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
j.d.?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
yup. right? i didn't see anyone take him yet.
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
you think he's worth it?
how about Wade Miley, LHP?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
i have no idea if he's worth it.
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
but danks would be fun!
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
by Toonderstrook on May 31, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
sss draft thread
http://www.southsidesox.com/2008/5/17/519728/white-sox-season-over-time
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
cheat
know anything on Wade Miley, LHP?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
wiz...you gonna pick or what?
may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"
ok
2:43!
now, pick 120
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
danks it is!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
any info on Daniel Marrs?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Suppose we...
...somehow ended up with Skipworth and Danks for our first two picks? Is that best case scenario at this point?
Good work, Wiz and Larry
In a sense we got lucky—not only did Hosmer go in the top seven but Alonso went as well. It sucks that Smoak went so early but Skipworth is a nice consolation.
Quick question about the two top rated pitchers… I had previously thought that Crow had the edge on Matusz, but you guys (as well as the drafter for Washington, apparently) seem to have Matusz ahead of Crow. Any quick reasons as to why? From what I’ve read, Crow seems to have better stuff than Matusz.. Are there (more) injury concerns with Crow? Is it the fact that Matusz is a lefty? A little of both?
thx
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
yeah, excellent
if you told me that we’d get skipworth and danks going in, i would have been extremely happy.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
how many years away do you guys see skipworth from making the sox?
Only guys with big salaries like me can afford a hat like that... HEY I'm a guy like me!
by whitesoxmatt on May 31, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
it'd probably be 2012
might depend some upon whether he signs early enough to play this year.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
M vs C
Matusz has a better K/9, BB/9, and H/9 this season than Crow and San Diego’s strength of schedule is more difficult than Mizzou’s. Crow may have the higher ceiling but he’s not necessarily the safer bet. And Chris O’Leary did recently do a pitching mechanics analysis of Crow and proclaimed he is at high risk of elbow/shoulder injury. But I’ve watched videos of Matusz myself and his mechanics are not much better.
Crow v. Matusz
Projectablity:http://thecollegebaseballblog.com/2008/04/29/crow-v-matusz/I feel Crow’s best two pitches are better than Matusz’s best two. However, Matusz’s third pitch is better than Crow’s third pitch. Simply put, I think Crow is more dominating but Matusz is a safer bet because he already has 3 workable pitches.
Here is how I view them – Crow has a higher ceiling in that if he develops a changeup or a 3rd pitch we could be talking about his stuff being Prior-esque. Matusz on the other hand is the safest bet in the draft. He is going to be a major league pitcher baring an injury. Also, I think he floor is higher than most players. At the very least he is an innings eater 4th starter for a long time.
Lastly, Crow is advised by Boras. Matusz is not. It is almost a given that Boras will demand a ML deal for Crow (bringing up the Prior comparison). So, if a team (the Rays) feels that Crow is the best talent in the draft, is he better by 3 or 4 million than Matusz and Beckham? Probably not.
Furthermore, Matusz is a LHP, so that is a plus. The more I think about it, the more I think Matusz will be the first pitcher taken.
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
wiz, i see you're up soon.
need anything while i’m on momentarily?
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
what do u think?
i think
Petey Paramore, C, Az State
Blake Tekotte, CF, Miami
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
tekote picked
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
good
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
wouldn't go with the catcher or tekote.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
who?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
is orepesa gone?
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
yes
picked a name from your list
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
yeah, fine pick.
i wouldn’t have thought oropesa would’ve gone at 75 but i guess someone else likes him, too.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
for the next pick
if harold martinez (FL HS SS) is available, i recommend.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
64) Braves: Harold Martinez, 3B, Florida HS
When Swisher smiles because he cant catch up to 86 mph fastballs, or because he swung at a curve in the dirt... yeah, that makes me angry.
take someone from here
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/high-school/season-preview/2008/265672.html
that Ramsey I mentioned is there, but on the 3rd team
When Swisher smiles because he cant catch up to 86 mph fastballs, or because he swung at a curve in the dirt... yeah, that makes me angry.
jesus. at 64?
somebody knows something, i guess.
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
another catcher?
When Swisher smiles because he cant catch up to 86 mph fastballs, or because he swung at a curve in the dirt... yeah, that makes me angry.
suggest who?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
well
its the sox, so is there a college kid that is doing good in the tournament that wasnt all that great all sesaon, ala Broadway?
Im definitely not on top of this, you guys have way more research im sure.
When Swisher smiles because he cant catch up to 86 mph fastballs, or because he swung at a curve in the dirt... yeah, that makes me angry.
the broadway/mcculoch approach got people fired
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
what about a P/C
fresh arm?
Matt Ramsey
farragut hs(not that farragut)
mentioned here
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080113&content_id=338822&vkey=news_milb&fext=.jsp
When Swisher smiles because he cant catch up to 86 mph fastballs, or because he swung at a curve in the dirt... yeah, that makes me angry.
so are you guys done Wiz?
When Swisher smiles because he cant catch up to 86 mph fastballs, or because he swung at a curve in the dirt... yeah, that makes me angry.
yeah; I stayed till 4
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
I like how Sickels
always gives his guys he mock drafted or shadow drafted rather slightly better grades than they probably deserve. He tricked me with Lillibridge like that when I drafted for my fantasy baseball w/minor league keepers.
When Swisher smiles because he cant catch up to 86 mph fastballs, or because he swung at a curve in the dirt... yeah, that makes me angry.
doesn't it make sense that he would do that considering he obviously likes them?
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
white sox mock draft picks
8) Kyle Skipworth, C, California HS [stats]
86) Jordan Danks, OF, Texas [2008 stats]
120) Tim Fedroff, OF, UNC [2008 stats]
150) Matt Daly, RHP, Hawaii [stats]
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
cheat, can you control the link # threshold?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
No, I can't
I don’t think it really does anything… It just draws an alert to your post rightnow…
AIM: SouthSideCheat
a flagged post doesn't get count in the # of comments
I doublechecked
so if you post a flagged post, the number of commments remains the same, no ‘new’ too
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
a flagged post doesn't get counted in the # of comments
I doublechecked
so if you post a flagged post, the number of commments remains the same, no ‘new’ too
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
now it's counted
maybe the counter it’s slow
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
fedroff is hiting .394/.460/.649
all we have to do is sign him now…
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
i already took care of that. danks, too.
they’ll be at great falls next month. it’s just money in my organization. ;)
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
and he [fedroff] has 13 SBs in 15 SBAs
dees keed is fast
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Re: white sox mock draft picks
What list(s) were you going off? I notice neither Fedroff or Daly are in Baseball America’s top 200 prospects but that’s the only list I’ve seen that goes anywhere near 200 deep.
by The Big Hurt on May 31, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
metal bat baseball
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
re
http://metalbatbaseball.blogspot.com/2008/05/first-5-college-bats.html
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
and daly was a john sickels pick
The Rays win 80 games and will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine -Tdogg
I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in - ballyb
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