Gavin Floyd's near No-No (Large Version plus more graphs)

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The two lonely dots are changeup, which I didn’t think he threw many of tonight. But the graph really illustrates it.

Fangraphs says he only throws about 6% changeups, so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

If I remember correctly, when I tackled the pitch-type data in the offseason, I found that Gavin’s Slider(labeled cutter here) was one nasty pitch.

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by The Cheat on May 6, 2008 9:56 PM CDT 0 recs

Those in the 9th didn't look like cuttters or sliders

They looked like nasty, nasty curves. He has the same curve in the last game he pitched but was not consistent with the rest of his pitches.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on May 6, 2008 10:06 PM CDT up 0 recs

No those are curves

represented by the cluster at the bottom right

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by The Cheat on May 6, 2008 10:08 PM CDT up 0 recs

OK - when you said sliders

were labeled cutters I thought the “CU” was cutter, not curve. Thanks.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on May 6, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up 0 recs

my first instinct was that ozzie should have let gavin finish it

but the pitch data clearly shows he was starting to lose his fastball, and i’m sure he was going on adrenaline at the end, so he may have really been out of gas.

i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.

by MarketMaker on May 6, 2008 10:02 PM CDT 0 recs

I might be an idiot.

But what’s a FC?

"P.S. if Cintron gets traded or released I will buy drinks for the whole board" - tubesox 6/24/07

by mjthor on May 6, 2008 10:17 PM CDT 0 recs

cutter

that’s how MLB’s gameday labels them (or at least how their XML data labels ‘em)

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by The Cheat on May 6, 2008 10:22 PM CDT up 0 recs

Oh, I thought CU was cutter.

I guess that would leave no abbreviation for curve, though.

I would think CF for “cut fastball” would make more sense. Maybe I’ll write them a letter.

"P.S. if Cintron gets traded or released I will buy drinks for the whole board" - tubesox 6/24/07

by mjthor on May 6, 2008 11:01 PM CDT up 0 recs

fantastic cunt?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 6, 2008 10:32 PM CDT up 0 recs

I need to find some FC tonight

It is better to be thought of as a fool, rather than open your mouth to remove all doubt

by whitesoxmatt on May 6, 2008 10:35 PM CDT up 0 recs

LOL!

I'm a disgruntled Whitesox fan and I can't spell

by chisox on May 6, 2008 10:53 PM CDT up 0 recs

Shhhhhhhh, Carol reads SSS.

Pitching and defense.

by ballyb on May 6, 2008 10:58 PM CDT up 0 recs

Gotta think Floyd's psyche / attitude

is as high as it’s ever been in the MLB (he was referred to as a head case in a thread about 6 weeks ago). He needs to build on this success now. Got to learn to handle the success.

That 2 1/2 by 2 1/2 inch square between Gavin’s ears.

Pitching and defense.

by ballyb on May 6, 2008 10:29 PM CDT 0 recs

coop has a psych degree too?

give the man a raise!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 6, 2008 10:33 PM CDT up 0 recs

wow...

They just talked about the near no hitter on nightline.

by Los Soxos on May 6, 2008 10:42 PM CDT 0 recs

rotoworld

His ERA is down to 2.50 despite a 19/18 K/BB ratio and the White Sox’s defense has amazingly turned over 85 percent of Floyd’s balls in play into outs, which makes him an excellent sell-high candidate.

is kenny working the fans?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 6, 2008 10:45 PM CDT 0 recs

correction

fans -> phones

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 6, 2008 10:56 PM CDT up 0 recs

No, Rotoworld is a fantasy site.

They’re talking about selling high for fantasy players. Roto is saying that Gavin will come back down to earth and is advising to trade him while his value is at its peak

"P.S. if Cintron gets traded or released I will buy drinks for the whole board" - tubesox 6/24/07

by mjthor on May 6, 2008 11:03 PM CDT up 0 recs

Probably a good thought

I know Floyd will not consistently flirt with no-hitters. Or have a sub-3 ERA.

But can he be a 4.5ish ERA pitcher? Is that possible? Or does the 19/18 K/BB ratio portend something like his career 6+ ERA. I have no idea.

If Danks and Floyd could both be above average starters in the AL on the cheap, then the Sox organization really would have some hope for building a competitive team in 2009.

by hitlesswonder on May 6, 2008 11:11 PM CDT up 0 recs