Minnesota @ Chicago GameThread, May 8, 2008 1:05 PM CDT

Game 34: White Sox (15-17) vs. Twins (17-15)

by The Wizard on May 8, 2008 12:00 PM CDT in Game Threads

John Danks (LHP) vs. Kevin Slowey (RHP)

Time: 1:05 p.m. CT, TV: CSN, Radio: WSCR AM-670 (B-R preview, Live Boxscore; 2007 MLB Gameday; 2008 MLB Gameday)

Today's Starters

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
John Danks	2-3	6	6	0	0	0	0	34.2	28	12	12	2	8	25	3.12	1.04
Kevin Slowey	0-1	1	1	0	0	0	0	3.1	4	3	3	1	0	2	8.10	1.20

Today's Lineups

Minnesota Twins @ Chicago White Sox

05/08/08 1:05 PM CDT

Minnesota Twins	Chicago White Sox
Carlos Gomez - CF	Alexei Ramirez - SS
Matt Tolbert - 3B	Carlos Quentin - LF
Joe Mauer - C	Jim Thome - DH
Justin Morneau - 1B	Paul Konerko - 1B
Michael Cuddyer - RF	Jermaine Dye - RF
Craig Monroe - DH	Nick Swisher - CF
Delmon Young - LF	Joe Crede - 3B
Brendan Harris - 2B	Juan Uribe - 2B
Adam Everett - SS	Toby Hall - C

GO SOX!

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Last time Slowey faced the Sox...

Sep. 23, 2007 -

7 IP, 1 R, 4 H, 0 BB, 9 K.

I expect a similar line today.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 8, 2008 12:03 PM CDT reply reply 0 recs

Optimistic I see

Q gets 3 or 4 of the 4 hits in that scenario ?

by Grinder in Training on May 8, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

Only two.

Toby Hall will poke out a single, as will Paul Konerko.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 8, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

just for fun

i’m going to pick a total ass-kicking of slowey.

Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!

by larry on May 8, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

Sox are due...

Slowey is 1-0 with a 1.86 ERA in two career starts against Chicago.

"Lipstick traces on cigarettes can get you in trouble or remind you of the wonders of the night before."

by Chiburb on May 8, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

appearances, not starts

the other was a relief.

Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!

by larry on May 8, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

nice to know MLB.com can't be trusted

cut and paste from them.

"Lipstick traces on cigarettes can get you in trouble or remind you of the wonders of the night before."

by Chiburb on May 8, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

And when might we expect this total ass-kicking to begin, Larry?

Pitching and defense.

by ballyb on May 8, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

Knock it off, bally

Great minds – are frustrated.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on May 8, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

Are we having fun yet?

I took the "under".

by winningugly on May 8, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

i always have fun

i know i’m the minority in that.

Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!

by larry on May 8, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

Most folks are a slave to the grind

Have you gone to many games this year? It might be tough to watch this in person.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on May 8, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

yup

depends upon what you’re watching. i find it’s much easier to just watch certain players (whether on the sox or another team) and worry less about the score.

Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!

by larry on May 8, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

If the Sox make Slowey...

Look like Roidger Clemens, I am going to scream! Or maybe I will just yell for Cedric Benson’s mommy!

Scouting Report:
Twins: With Scott Baker’’s strained right groin muscle keeping him a question mark for his next start, the Twins decided to call up Slowey. The right-hander has not pitched in the Majors since April 3, when he left his start after just 3 1/3 innings with a right biceps strain. After letting the injury heal during a DL stint, Slowey headed to the Minors and made three starts there. He last pitched for Triple-A Rochester on May 1, giving up two earned runs over five innings. He allowed two walks and struck out nine. Slowey is 1-0 with a 1.86 ERA in two career starts against Chicago.

C'mon, Smokey! This isn't 'Nam, it's bowling. There are rules!

by thekever on May 8, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

they're gonna put a 15-year-old girl on his lap?

by Ryno on May 8, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

Ramirez, SS;
Q, LF;
Thome, DH;
PK, 1B;
Dye, RF;
Swish, CF;
Crede, 3B;
Uribe, 2B;
Hall, C.

wtf…and last time they faced slowly uribe yes juanito himself had 3 of the 4 hits

Ground ball to first, and the White Sox have won the Pennant!

by beanohatesthecubs on May 8, 2008 12:17 PM CDT reply reply 0 recs

He was carrying the team.

by Grinder in Training on May 8, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

Toby Hall

leading the lineup with his .286 average.

by Ryno on May 8, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

once again illustrating the efficacy of that stat.

Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!

by larry on May 8, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

and small sample sizes.

Repeat after me: reading comprehension, even a little bit of thought before posting, and basic research are not signs of weakness.

by Toonderstrook on May 8, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

don't even need to get into that.

he’s seventh in the lineup in EqA with a spectacular .212.

Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!

by larry on May 8, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

it's perfectly efficacious

at describing the rate of hits per at bat. clearly, toby hall is the best hitter in today’s lineup.

by Ryno on May 8, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

you know who was the most efficacious at hits per at bat?

Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!

by larry on May 8, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

dude, everybody knows

tony conigliaro routinely went 5 for 4 before he got beaned.

by Ryno on May 8, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

it wasnt

a chicken wing eating contest…although with him Thome and Paul…I think we could take most teams in a wing eating contest….although Brew Crew have Prince but maybe we can re-sign david Wells…then we couldnt lose

Ground ball to first, and the White Sox have won the Pennant!

by beanohatesthecubs on May 8, 2008 12:21 PM CDT reply reply 0 recs

fielder is a vegetarian now.

by the way, have you heard back from the commish yet on the quentin ballot issue?

Repeat after me: reading comprehension, even a little bit of thought before posting, and basic research are not signs of weakness.

by Toonderstrook on May 8, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

prince is a vegetarian

unless they’re soy chicken wings he’s toast.

by Ryno on May 8, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

draft

General manager Ken Williams plans to accompany the White Sox on their 10-game trip after spending several weekends scouting top amateur players in preparation for next month’s draft.
It’s a very important draft for the Sox, who draft eighth overall but don’t have a second-round selection.

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2008/05/draft-update.html

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 8, 2008 12:29 PM CDT reply reply 0 recs

larry scooped you again...

Repeat after me: reading comprehension, even a little bit of thought before posting, and basic research are not signs of weakness.

by Toonderstrook on May 8, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

dammit, they just popped up on my reader

maybe because I just opened it up…

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 8, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

you just don't quit, do you?

Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!

by larry on May 8, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

just trying to keep up professor!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 8, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

i keep my campaign promises

said i’d update the thread in exchange for recommendations.

Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!

by larry on May 8, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

ozzie

“The reason everyone likes Lou Piniella is because he’s (bleeped) up,” Guillen said.

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2008/05/lineups-ozzie-o.html

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 8, 2008 12:31 PM CDT reply reply 0 recs

Crucial Game

And I feel a win deep down in my soul

Bloggin'

http://bierjournal.blogspot.com/

by Six Pack on May 8, 2008 12:36 PM CDT reply reply 0 recs

don't worry

danks’ pink goatee will scare the twinkies!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 8, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

Wow.

Alexei leading off. Holy fuck, start the firesale now.

"P.S. if Cintron gets traded or released I will buy drinks for the whole board" - tubesox 6/24/07

by mjthor on May 8, 2008 12:43 PM CDT reply reply 0 recs

indy's on the schedule!

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=cws

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 8, 2008 12:48 PM CDT reply reply 0 recs

on why releasing juan uribe now is probably a futile endeavor

I was asked last night, on ESPN Radio here in New York, about Jason Giambi and Carlos Delgado, neither of whom is playing well so far this season. Both are in the final season of high-dollar contracts, so again, you have a sunk cost for one year. While releasing the players would sate the bloodlust that has become so much a part of baseball in Gotham, neither team has an acceptable substitute on hand. The Mets simply have no first-base options, while the Yankees have fan favorite Shelley Duncan, who’s kind of Richie Sexson without the good years. You can’t swing an ax wildly with no plan to stanch the blood flow after you hit something. "Platoon Marlon Anderson and Damion Easley" is not a plan.

It’s not enough to identify a problem. It’s not enough to grasp the concept of sunk costs. It’s not enough to take an underperforming player out of the equation. You have to have a plan for what comes next, one that is better than the current situation. The Blue Jays didn’t, and for their trouble, they’ve wasted one of the best run-prevention stretches any team will have all year by going 8-9, leaving them treading water in the AL East. Perhaps Frank Thomas wasn’t the solution, but it has to be clear by now that he damn sure wasn’t the problem.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=7489

until richar is available, just like the above situations, there really isn’t a plan. would be nice to see the sox cut bait on a bad player, regardless of money, but cutting him really does not much more than sate the bloodlust in the second city. uribe bad; present options likely worse.

now pablo…

Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!

by larry on May 8, 2008 12:54 PM CDT reply reply 0 recs

interesting, though 1 question:

why don’t you consider Getz or Frenchy “a plan”, even if for this season only, or until Richar is healthy and hitting?

"Lipstick traces on cigarettes can get you in trouble or remind you of the wonders of the night before."

by Chiburb on May 8, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

Because...

he thinks that Uribe is better than either Getz or Bourgeois.

I disagree w/r/t Getz (although I understand larry’s qualms about him), but Bourgeois shouldn’t be a starting player at the MLB level. He’s better than Pablo Ozuna, but Pablo Ozuna shouldn’t be starting, either.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 8, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

i don't think either of those are as good or better than juan

they’re both AAAA or utility players with no pop. uribe is at least a utility player with pop and the ability to play plus defense.

a lot of the bloodletting we’ve seen recently – thomas, j. jones, etc. – has just been done for the sake of doing something or, at the very least, not for baseball reasons. the only real useful ones i’ve seen were wilkerson and vidro because the mariners at least replaced those players with somethings that are likely to be more useful both now and going forward.

Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!

by larry on May 8, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

We have a AAAA team with MLB pitching right now

So why not give one of the kids a chance – and more than a few games and before we say they can’t

by Brush Back on May 8, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

because one doesn't need to give them a chance before saying they can't

their minor league histories make it clear. just like juan’s major league history makes it clear what he is.

if your position is play the kids, everything else be damned, that’s fine. it just doesn’t make things better in baseball terms. which was my and sheehan’s point.

Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!

by larry on May 8, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

I didn't know Getz had such an extensive minor league career.

by Brush Back on May 8, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

why would it need to be extensive?

in fact, that’s one of the things that would weigh against bringing him up. he hasn’t mastered the minors yet; why would he be able to survive as a starter in the bigs?

Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!

by larry on May 8, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

I don't know - I ask that about Ramirez every at bat

by Brush Back on May 8, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

uh huh

Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!

by larry on May 8, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

Well at least we found a point to agree on

by Brush Back on May 8, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

getz in the majors right now

would be like a combination of owens and uribe. when he made contact, the ball would be lucky to get out of the infield. and, when he didn’t make contact, a guy who is striking out in 20% of his at-bats at AAA and walking in 7% (boy, whose stats do those sound like who plays in the majors…?) is going to get eaten alive.

Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!

by larry on May 8, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs