I love baseball.
- In the series opener, Gavin Floyd, who I once called the Joe Borchard of pitching prospects, took a no-hitter into the 9th inning.
- Yesterday, Carlos Gomez hit for the cycle -- the 8th cycle the White Sox have allowed in the retrosheet era.
- In the rubber match Thursday, Juan Uribe was the hero and Jim Thome recorded his first steal since he was playing in Cleveland, both of which seem equally unlikely.
Just days ago, there was speculation from inside the White Sox clubhouse that Juan Uribe was a goner, a sacrificial lamb for the team-wide hitting slump and 6 game losing streak. Thursday he may have provided the spark to help lift the Sox out of their funk.
While Uribe's 2-run homer in the 5th inning put the Sox up for good, it was hit takeout slide of Brendan Harris in the 8th that really brought life to the dugout.
"Awesome," manager Ozzie Guillen said of Uribe's clean but ferocious slide. "I was the first one that jumped out of my seat.
"When somebody hits a home run, I just sit there and wait for the guy to shake his hand, unless it's to win the game. But when I see plays like that -- clean, play the game the way they should be playing -- it's something we're missing."
The first thing I noticed after Uribe bowled over Harris was the reception he received in the dugout. It was much more boisterous than the homecoming following his 2-run shot. It may have been a while since the Sox have seen a multi-run homer, but it's still something they're used to seeing. A well executed takeout slide, however, was something to be celebrated.
If the Sox are able to come out of their team-wide slump, you know that play will trotted out as the turning point. If the Sox bats head back into hibernation, if Uribe continues to hit below his weight, the simple fundamentally sound play will be forgotten as the calls for Jerry Owens crescendo. I'll stick with the view that it was a good play, and if the Sox get some more plays like that, and the properly executed run down, and, you know, some timely hitting they'll turn things back around.
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I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't describe the bizarre circumstances surrounding Thome's first steal in a White Sox uniform. To set the stage, with nobody out in the Thome walked to advance Carlos Quentin to second and bring Paul Konerko to the plate. Konerko worked a 3-1 count, and was unable to check his swing on an inside fastball.
Home plate umpire Doug Eddings --It's always Doug Eddings-- was slow to call anything (sound familiar?). Konerko, hearing nothing, assumed it was ball four and began to take off his shin guard. At the same time Quentin and Thome began trotting towards the next base. Meanwhile, Joe Mauer started asking for help, inexplicably pointing to third base then finding the proper ump at first, who (correctly) called it a strike on a failed check swing. But by this time, Thome and Q were mere steps away from 2nd and 3rd, respectively, giving Mauer no play.
Mauer returned the ball to Matt Guerrier, who ran around the field tagging Thome and Quentin, who now stood safely 90 feet closer to home. Ron Gardenhire came out to argue Eddings' slow call on the play, and eventually got the boot. Meanwhile in the White Sox dugout, Ozzie yukked it up, pantomiming Guerrier looking for outs by tagging anyone within arms reach of him.
The Sox would not score in the inning. The smiles were removed from their faces... until that Uribe slide.
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In a somewhat surprising twist, it seems the person most responsible for keeping Owens off the roster right now is Ozzie. This probably has more to do with Ozzie's inflated view of Alexei Ramirez more than anything else, but it's notable because it seems like Ozzie is always fighting to keep his bantam-weight speedsters on the roster.
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Anecdotally, based solely on my own observation and without going through the game logs or Pitch F/X data, it feels like there is a (negative) correlation between the opposing starter's fastball velocity and their game ERA against the Sox. Put more simply, the Sox can't hit soft tossers. The harder you throw, the better they've hit you (at least since the Baltimore series). If anyone wanted to take the time to dive into the data, I'd be forever in your debt.
- As if there wasn't enough misguided, tangentially White Sox related material floating through my inbox and feed reader with the manufactured outrage surrounding latex inflatables in a locker room in the news everywhere, Ozzie went on another one of his Ozzie being Ozzie rants where he says a whole lot of nothing, causing those who don't cover him every day to proclaim he's talking himself out of a job. We all know this is about as far from the truth as you can get, so I'll just continue to point out that the coaches and staff from the '05 World Series team have recurring contracts and Get Out of Jail Free cards that run through 2012.
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Litke Didn't Do his Research
Um, Jim, the 2006 team was pretty damn good, despite a mediocre 2nd half they won 90 games. So when you write that “by the following (after 2005) July the team was in a tailspin that left them some 25 games below .500.”, it kinda detracts from your article.
Seriously though, how can you miss that?
by madvillian on
May 8, 2008 11:33 PM CDT
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To be honest...
I didn’t even make it that far.
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by The Cheat on
May 8, 2008 11:36 PM CDT
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Should have clarified
Was only saying how could Litke have missed that. I think I only caught that ‘cause I skipped most of the first couple paragraphs.
by madvillian on
May 8, 2008 11:45 PM CDT
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Arrival on time
“Floyd turns 24 in January, so there’s still some hope. If he doesn’t succeed by April of ‘08 though, you’ll likely never hear of him again.”
Cmon cheat just use the good stuff. Looks like he arrived in the station on time for you.
by Tdogg on
May 8, 2008 11:40 PM CDT
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Some Danks Stats
He now boasts a 3/1 K/BB ratio and 30Ks in 39 innings. His ridiculous OPS against of .647 is unlikely to stay so low (only 2 HR), but the peripherals are there for him.
KW pulls deals like this out of his ass (see, Q, Carlos), but doesn’t seem to be able to make the obvious moves (Um, backup catcher and legit bench guys please), that help win ballgames. It’s maddening.
by madvillian on
May 8, 2008 11:49 PM CDT
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The Uribe slide
was terrific. That could really spark the team, but I still foresee some woeful hitting out west.
Juan got down to second like Harris was about to cut him off at the buffet.
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on
May 8, 2008 11:53 PM CDT
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lol
“It’s unbelievable,” Uribe said. “I’ve never seen Buehrle like that. And when I see him doing that with my bat, I say, ‘Oh, my God, that’s my bat.’ I got to the dugout and he said, ‘I’m sorry.’ I said, ‘That’s OK.’ He’s a good person.”
by 3E8 on
May 9, 2008 1:33 AM CDT
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I hadn't seen it until "Baseball Tonight" at 3 AM this morn.
What a great play – can’t believe it din’t make the top 10 plays du jour. It was also great to se the team liven up.
Guess when you play hard, fundamental baseball you don’t need latex dolls.
I wouldn’t mark this as a trend quite yet. String a few games where everyone is gutting it out and we’ll talk.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on
May 9, 2008 6:59 AM CDT
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"Guess when you play hard, fundamental baseball you don’t need latex dolls."
Great line WU.
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by ballyb on
May 9, 2008 8:21 AM CDT
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LOL!
Juan got down to second like Harris was about to cut him off at the buffet.
that’s priceless!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
May 9, 2008 4:26 PM CDT
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Is anyone running MLB Gameday on their bberry?
I just download the mobile app on my 8820, and started messing around with it. It looks pretty cool. In some ways its better than the web version, but it doesnt have the pitch f/x. You also have to scroll left-right to see other screens. Like each teams lineup and pitchers are all on separate pages.
Its got a player tracker too. I didn’t mess around with that yet, but that would be good for fantasy players.
I’m on a 30 day trial, and I don’t even know what the damn thing will cost me. Its a much better interface (thin client) than the browser-based gamecast pages I’ve used (which always seem to have word wrap issues for me).
I know there are some iPhone users out there, but anyone got any other good interfaces to gamecast on their mobile devices?
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on
May 9, 2008 8:17 AM CDT
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Without looking it up,
who has the 2nd worst team BA in the AL, .005 ahead of us?
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by ballyb on
May 9, 2008 8:53 AM CDT
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Tribe?
C'mon, Smokey! This isn't 'Nam, it's bowling. There are rules!
by thekever on
May 9, 2008 9:34 AM CDT
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Larry, any luck on that underline button?
Color palette?
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by ballyb on
May 9, 2008 9:48 AM CDT
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they are in a big, big slump,
BUT WE HAVE THE SHITTIEST LINEUP IN MLB.
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by ballyb on
May 9, 2008 9:38 AM CDT
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Twins?
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by Chiburb on
May 9, 2008 9:36 AM CDT
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3rd in the AL.
One Name. Nick Punto.
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by ballyb on
May 9, 2008 9:39 AM CDT
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The hitting version of those Cy Young pitchers we run up against?
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by Chiburb on
May 9, 2008 9:42 AM CDT
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Community Project?
My daughter lives in Seattle and has arranged an outing to the game tonight. As you’ll recall, both my daughters are avid Sox fans. So…
Can you think of any “fun facts’ about either team that she can rattle off to amaze and impress her friends? Even stuff like “the Sox have the 2nd worst BA in the AL” or “Sox leadoff hitters are hitting .200” should work nicely.
Thanks in advance!
"Lipstick traces on cigarettes can get you in trouble or remind you of the wonders of the night before."
by Chiburb on
May 9, 2008 9:40 AM CDT
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how about
despite batting just .200, the sox leadoff hitters are still getting on base at .335, good for 7th (i.e., the middle) of the league.
Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!
by larry on
May 9, 2008 9:47 AM CDT
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I like that...
Speaks of average for the casual fan, yet shows her knowledge of OBP, etc.
Nice one.
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by Chiburb on
May 9, 2008 9:49 AM CDT
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this is the kind of shit i pull out for clients
don’t want to seem like a know it all. don’t want to seem like you’re talking about stuff they don’t know about. don’t want to be too facile if you have a smart baseball guy around but also one of the more old school types. everybody wins. and then we move on to commenting on the players’ girlfriends and wives who are in attendance.
Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!
by larry on
May 9, 2008 9:53 AM CDT
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the wisdom of aged experience
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on
May 9, 2008 4:25 PM CDT
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Boy, that's sure worth $400/hour
I took the "under".
by winningugly on
May 9, 2008 7:03 PM CDT
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for you, WU
$415
Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!
by larry on
May 9, 2008 7:50 PM CDT
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What, no SSS discount?
I took the "under".
by winningugly on
May 10, 2008 4:18 PM CDT
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"(i) don't want to seem like a know it all." - larry
or this week’s sign the apocalypse is upon us.
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on
May 9, 2008 7:51 PM CDT
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Meaning - it is the Cubs' year.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on
May 10, 2008 4:18 PM CDT
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Last in BA with .233 (Bost leads w/ .285), but
middle in runs scored with 153 ( (Bost leads w/ 187, KC last w/ 120).
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by ballyb on
May 9, 2008 9:59 AM CDT
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Compare that to the Mariners,
who are 12th in BA (.244) AND 12th in runs scored (141).
Aside – Seattle is last (where’s that underline button, Larry) in OBP (.305)
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by ballyb on
May 9, 2008 10:04 AM CDT
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Nice one, BB...thx.
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by Chiburb on
May 9, 2008 10:12 AM CDT
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another fun one
is the sox have both hit the most home runs and given up the least.
Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!
by larry on
May 9, 2008 11:56 AM CDT
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i've got thousands of these
this one isn’t that good for your girt but for interested sox fans?
javy’s been pretty good right? 1.21 WHIP, 3.30 ERA, so on. well, he can probably be even better. his BABIP, unlike many of the sox pitchers, is actually higher (.331) than his career average (.303).
Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!
by larry on
May 9, 2008 12:06 PM CDT
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Yes.
With the peripherals he has (46 Ks, 11 BBs, 2 HRs) his ERA should be well below three. He’s been outstanding.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
May 9, 2008 12:10 PM CDT
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now to get controversial
john danks also has been pretty good right? 1.11 WHIP, 3.18 ERA, an absolutely vicious K:BB rate. cries around baseball are “he can’t be that good, right? this is a guy who sucked pretty bad last year.” think again. while it’s always a good bet to say a guy won’t keep up numbers like above, don’t expect a floyd-esque collapse. his BABIP is not far off from where you can expect a pitcher of his repertoire to be (.290ish). home runs will increase and it’s a good bet that the k rate will moderate some. but he’s fer real.
Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!
by larry on
May 9, 2008 12:17 PM CDT
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Heh.
“Floyd-esque collapse”.
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May 9, 2008 12:18 PM CDT
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indeed
the magic will end sometime.
the real issue with danks – and i’d expect this to be the unstated reason for danks’ too-soon-for-some departure yesterday and some of the rotation order machinations we’ve seen – is going to be innings pitched. the sox absolutely need to be careful.
Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!
by larry on
May 9, 2008 12:25 PM CDT
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You think he's got mechanical problems...
and can’t handle the workload? Because you’re right – they’re treating Danks a lot more carefully than they did Buehrle at a similar age.
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May 9, 2008 12:33 PM CDT
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no
and of course they’re treating him differently. almost a decade later, we know a hell of a lot more. what the sox did with MB – what was it, a seventy inning increase in one year, followed by another fifty? – would be considered absolute madness today. some may complain that the pitch/inning count pendulum has swung too far the other way. but MB was abused by any standard – he just happens to have one of those arms. danks might, too. but i’m not going to test that theory.
Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!
by larry on
May 9, 2008 12:41 PM CDT
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and i always forget
MB was a draft and follow. so the first increase i cited may not be pertinent. but the second one is.
Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!
by larry on
May 9, 2008 12:57 PM CDT
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Here's something I've wondered about speaking of Danks
Tell the pitchers to throw 2 less warm up pitches per inning (or 1). Over time, you get nearly one more inning per start that counts without throwing more pitches. Shorten starters warmups before the game. Relievers are ready faster, why not them? The whole pitch count thing is real but it seems baseball only manages the live innings part.
I welcome smarter people’s comments.
Show mercy. I get to watch the Rangers.
by Tim from Texas on
May 9, 2008 1:02 PM CDT
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Is this going to
make the posting HOF?
I hope so.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on
May 9, 2008 1:04 PM CDT
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Bobby-you formerly pitched IIRC
help me understand if I’m being stupid. Doesn’t each pitcher decide before a game when he’s ready? Or is that really controlled by pitch count? Don’t some pitchers take more to get ready than others?
I’m not trying to be funny.
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by Tim from Texas on
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well, you're getting into effort and so on there
i don’t think anyone would say a warmup pitch is equal in effort to a live pitch. and, yes, i also wouldn’t start telling a pitcher how to warmup or when they’re warmed up. pitchers are routine hounds. they’ve probably had the same warmup routine for literally years. i’ve watched MB warm up prior to a game for close to a decade and he doesn’t do anything differently that i can see, at least on the field.
i think a lot of teams (and, from his moves, i think coop/ozzie is part of this) is a bit more nuanced in their approach than simply strict pitch counts and inning counts. for example, the reason danks was pulled early yesterday probably had more to do with his laborious, what, close to 110 pitch prior outing than looking too far down the road at a strict “danks will pitch 175 innings this year” thing.
Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!
by larry on
May 9, 2008 1:20 PM CDT
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on your point regarding different warmups for different roles
there’s probably something there. a few things to consider, though, is that a bullpen guy is not just getting up cold, throwing 20 pitches, and then entering the game. they’re staying/getting loose prior to their throwing warmup. the other thing is that there is some theory behind a longer warmup for a longer exercise performance, i.e. a guy who will be working out over the course of about two hours should warm up more than a guy who will work for five minutes.
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by larry on
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I've watched enough
pitchers warm up to know that they typically go through the same routine to get ready. Starters take longer to get warm because they are preparing for a much longer outing than a reliever – basically they need to get their arms stretched out more. I am sure a starter is not going overboard in his warm ups and thus”wasting pitches”...I am sure the starter has done the same or pretty close to the same routine for a majority of their career. They know when they are ready.
If you asked John Danks to shave off two warm up pitches per inning so they can pitch an extra half inning in the game, I would be sure that he would think you were insane.
Also, warm up pitches typically do not have the same power as a live pitch in an inning.
Between innings a pitcher gets tight in the dugout. When they come out to warm up they are getting loose…saving a pitch or two in that situtation might actually hurt them.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on
May 9, 2008 1:29 PM CDT
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you're right, way over the heads of her audience but
the HRs allowed and hit is perfect!
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by Chiburb on
May 9, 2008 12:12 PM CDT
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I tried to look it up but couldn't find it
Didn’t Buerhle have more pickoffs than successful stolen bases against him?
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by Tim from Texas on
May 9, 2008 12:16 PM CDT
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underline
First of all, underlining text that isn’t a link is a very very bad idea. Very bad. Awful. Even if you think that underlining a header doesn’t look like the rest of the links or something, don’t do it. Pages use different link styles, and pretty much everyone has just got into the idea that “underline = link”.
http://tom.me.uk/html-to-css/underline.html
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
May 9, 2008 5:42 PM CDT
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Fuck that.
Bring on the underline button and colors.
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by ballyb on
May 9, 2008 7:45 PM CDT
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Onto pitching.
Contreras, psychologically decimated by an unwarranted divorce filing by the Mrs., struggled mightily last year. This year, still hurting he’s valiantly fighting back the anguish, while bravely pitching his way back, possibly to ace of the staff.
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May 9, 2008 10:23 AM CDT
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Yes, that disease he picked up in the Virgin Islands: Lackanooky
But Dr. Komonawannalaya has cured him (so it seems), ably assisted by Dr. Cooper.
Btw, are you Joe Cowley?
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by Chiburb on
May 9, 2008 10:36 AM CDT
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Not to mention
a couple of extra blow up dolls around the clubhouse.
C'mon, Smokey! This isn't 'Nam, it's bowling. There are rules!
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May 9, 2008 10:39 AM CDT
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Not important for Jose.
Someone posted in the last month or so that the saw Jose in a Hispanic club being escorted by two non blow-up hot, hot, hot honeys.
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May 9, 2008 10:50 AM CDT
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Got the address?
I’ve always wanted to meet people from the elusive nation of Hispania, especially if they’re HHHs!
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May 9, 2008 5:18 PM CDT
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half and half hos?
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on
May 9, 2008 5:20 PM CDT
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do a search on Contreras and club.
I pretty sure these HHH ones really like that the guy make $10+ million per.
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May 9, 2008 7:47 PM CDT
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Everything Cowley learned about Jose's difficulties, he learned from me.
Ask Larry.
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Speaking of Cowley...
Can you think of why the S-T’s Sox beat writer isn’t actually covering the games? DeLuca has had them for the last 2 or 3 games.
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May 9, 2008 10:50 AM CDT
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Wife's pregnant
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
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May 9, 2008 10:51 AM CDT
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Then why was he traveling with the team (Toronto at least)
but not at home this week? I know you’re more tolerant of him than I am, Jim, but I think my question is legit.
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May 9, 2008 10:55 AM CDT
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everyone knows cowley loves toronto
how could he miss that trip?
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