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Chris Young nuts a homer to LF against the Cubs already...

.254 AVG
.846 OPS
9 HR
20 RBI

I like Hobby a lot but Young sure would look good in a Sox uniform.

by SSH2005 on May 9, 2008 1:27 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

The big difference...

between this year and last for Young is that he’s doubled his walk rate, at least in the early going.

He’s going to be a special ballplayer, methinks.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 9, 2008 1:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

speaking of chris young

BTB: Baseball’s Next Superstar: Chris Young

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 9, 2008 1:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

remember when he broke his wrist after we traded him

if he had done so while in the sox, he would still be with the sox yes?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 9, 2008 1:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

It's interesting to think...

about what would have happened had the Sox not traded Young for Vasquez.

If he didn’t have Javier Vazquez, would Williams have traded Freddy Garcia after the 2006 season? My guess would be no.

Either Nick Swisher or Carlos Quentin would not be in the organization today, that’s certain.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 9, 2008 1:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

interesting? maybe for a while.

not after thirty-seven threads about it. but i digress. what would have happened had the sox not drafted MB?

Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!

by larry on May 9, 2008 1:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Then again -

What if the Dodgers never moved to the west coast – would JR now own the Sox

by Brush Back on May 9, 2008 2:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

certainly

but if the sox players had not thrown the world series in 1919, would the weimar republic have not failed? and if adolf hitler had thusly not risen to power would chris young then have not been traded for javier vazquez? it’s interesting to think…

Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!

by larry on May 9, 2008 2:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

for only for a second...

Repeat after me: reading comprehension, even a little bit of thought before posting, and basic research are not signs of weakness.

by Toonderstrook on May 9, 2008 2:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

i call godwin

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on May 10, 2008 4:07 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

another article from BTB speculates what the brewers will do with matt laporta

BTB: Matt LaPorta: The Next Ryan Braun?

The question becomes: where does he fit in? LaPorta is not a good defender – he will likely be relegated to first base or a corner outfield position in the majors, seeing as Designated Hitter is not an option with the Brew Crew. The Brewers have Prince Fielder entrenched at first and Ryan Braun and Corey Hart locked into the outfield. Thus, there seem to be only two solutions:


1) Make a trade. Everyone loves young (read: affordable) hitting (well…except for the Dodgers), and the Brewers’s already suspect rotation was weakened by the loss of Yovani Gallardo for the year. However, despite the offseason deals between the Rays and Twins and between the Rangers and Reds where Delmon Young, Matt Garza, Edinson Volquez, and Josh Hamilton (amongst others) switched teams, trades involving young studs – especially studs who have not yet made it to the majors – are rare. The Brewers would have to find a team who values LaPorta highly, despite his defensive inability, and also has young pitching to spare. The Angels come to mind (how far apart in value are LaPorta and Nick Adenhart?), but the Angels are not exactly known for making blockbuster trades. The Brewers could also trade one of their more-established young players, who probably have more trade value, but also have more internal value, seeing as they’ve proven they can hit at the major league level.

could javy net us laporta?
I know it says young pitching; I just thought I’ll ask,
we probably should look for another team to trade javy yes?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 9, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

we're trading javy now?

not sure i’d trade starting pitching for a DH, no matter how young.

Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!

by larry on May 9, 2008 1:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

no, I'm just wondering

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 9, 2008 1:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

him and josh would be buddies

I would just like to say that I would not be where I am if it were not for my faith in my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and the amazing family that I have.

http://blog.baseballdigestdaily.com/blog/MattLaPorta/_archives/2008/5/2/3672375.html

Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!

by larry on May 9, 2008 2:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

oh

I wonder if we can share Lords?

by Where Triples Go to Die on May 9, 2008 6:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

today's 'grinder mentality' moment
I love Jim Thome. I don’t think Aaron Rowand is Superman. But I think that trade killed the White Sox and will continue to kill the Sox for who knows how long.

It doesn’t make sense if you compare their careers. Thome is going to the Hall of Fame; Rowand is going to the hospital. But it makes perfect sense if you understand the grinder mentality that Roward represented, the grinder mentality that the 2005 Sox lineup had, the grinder mentality that existed precisely because Rowand wasn’t Thome. It existed and worked because those Sox were forced to worry about where their next run was coming from and forced the entire lineup to worry about fundamental, situational hitting.


http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/rosenblog/2008/05/grind-it-out-re.html

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 9, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Um

Was the grinder mentality having the best pitching staff in the bigs for a year? Cause I’d really like to get that mentality back.

by madvillian on May 9, 2008 1:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Well...

the major reason that the Sox had the best pitching in MLB in ‘05 was the outstanding defense they got. That has nothing to do with grindiness, but the Sox traded defense for offense that winter.

You can say that it was still worthwhile, and I won’t argue that point, but there it is.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 9, 2008 2:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

i must have missed all those great defensive players who were traded that offseason.

wait, aaron rowand. yeah. he’s pretty good. who was his primary replacement again? oh yeah, brian anderson. he sucks defensively.

i think you can chalk up the difference in defense between those two years more to random variation and age than to different personnel. plus, the word “lucky” comes to mind when i think of that pitching. a confluence of guys having great years at the same time. was defense part of that? sure. but luck or random favorable variation played a bigger role.

Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!

by larry on May 9, 2008 2:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

re

oh yeah, brian anderson. he sucks defensively

no, that’s offensively

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 9, 2008 2:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

smiley added

:p

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 9, 2008 2:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I'll buy that.

and “random favorable variation” played a big role in how good the defense was in 2005, too. Scott Podsednik was good for a year in left field, and was awful after that. Jermaine Dye was good defensively in 2005, and pretty much not after that. And yes, Juan Uribe declined defensively after ‘05 as well.

Of course, it didn’t help that Brian Anderson only played 2/3 of the time in center field in 2006.

But my point was that the pitching staff was basically the same in ‘06 as it was in ‘05. The balls just weren’t being caught as frequently. Part of that was bad luck on balls in play, sure, but a big part of it was the defense. It wasn’t just coincidence that every Sox starter saw their ERA rise in ‘06 over ‘05.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 9, 2008 2:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

injuries

jose hurt. freddy arguably hurt.

coincidence? perhaps not. but regression for all was certainly expected.

and, one quibble i would make, that would bolster your argument more than mine, was that the staff was not basically the same. javy was a big upgrade over duque/mac. and the pen was pretty different, too.

Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!

by larry on May 9, 2008 2:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I love Young

I thought he was one of the best prospects in all of baseball when the Sox traded him but felt it was a price worth paying for another title shot in 2006. Obviously things didn’t work out in 2006 but hindsight in 20/20. Given the circumstances I think it was a fair trade for both sides.

Sad to see Young bursting onto the scene with the Diamondbacks though.

by madvillian on May 9, 2008 1:56 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

definitely a fair trade.

Javy is a horse, at a relative bargain rate.

Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!

by Nordhagen on May 9, 2008 2:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

No, he can't give up negative runs.

Thusly, he sucks. The best he’ll do is break us even. Offense wins games.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on May 9, 2008 2:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Another relatively useless hypothetical

but one that’s somewhat interesting to think about… If - in 2006 - Vazquez pitches like he has pitched in 2007 and so far this year, do the Sox make the playoffs? He allowed 116 runs in 2006 and 95 in 2007, so that’s two wins, right? So still short of Detroit… damn was that division good.

That would have been an interesting playoffs (had the Sox made it). The offense was brutal in the second half and I’m pretty sure the Sox’ playoff rotation wouldn’t’ve included Buehrle—probably Vazquez, Garcia and Garland (?) as the top three.

by CWSKeith on May 9, 2008 2:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

PS Is Jim saying the difference between Uribe and Travis Hafner

is Uribe has a “V”?

I’m just askin’.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on May 9, 2008 2:18 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Well...

Juan Uribe is probably pretty close to Travis Hafner in terms of contributions to winning this year…

by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 9, 2008 2:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Pronk

he’s up to like 96% donkey this year.

by Ryno on May 9, 2008 2:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Batman sounds

I found a page a while back with 50 different actual ones, and so far, I’ve only used “Whammm!!”, “Qunckkk!” and “Zgruppp!”

Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on May 9, 2008 3:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

love the pic

love the “sound.”

It could also say “DP FAIL”

Better to PWN than be PWNED (right, Jamie Burke?)

Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!

by Nordhagen on May 9, 2008 3:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

A lot of MLB news...
  • Padres released outfielder Jim Edmonds. Wow, surprising move but Edmonds is broken down.
  • Blue Jays signed outfielder Brad Wilkerson.
  • Blue Jays acquired outfielder Kevin Mench from the Rangers for cash considerations.
  • Blue Jays designated LHP Gustavo Chacin for assignment. What a shame, he had a lot of potential.
  • Blue Jays designated infielder Sergio Santos for assignment. Santos = Uribe.
  • Brewers outrighted RHP Derrick Turnbow to Triple-A Nashville.
  • Rangers designated first baseman Ben Broussard for assignment.
  • Pirates acquired outfielder Jason Michaels from the Indians for a player to be named. Good, he can’t kill us anymore.

by SSH2005 on May 9, 2008 3:48 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

wow, i thought underlining was the next frontier

apparently it’s bullet points.

Jesus H. Larry! I said the first half!

by larry on May 9, 2008 4:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

i tell you what, he could just say the word and bullet points would shoot out from his fingertips like magic. bullet points and martinis.

Repeat after me: reading comprehension, even a little bit of thought before posting, and basic research are not signs of weakness.

by Toonderstrook on May 9, 2008 4:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

hey! I resemble that remark!

sip

"Lipstick traces on cigarettes can get you in trouble or remind you of the wonders of the night before."

by Chiburb on May 9, 2008 5:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I always figured you for a martini machine, Chiburb

but now to know it’s true is like heaven. Where are you located so that I can put my $5 in, select Tanqueray 10 and extra dirty, and then see my martini glass decend into the splash tray and my drink fill up.

Mmmm….martini vending machine…aaaggghhhh.

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

by rhythm on May 9, 2008 6:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

yep, that's me

if I trust the bartender, its a very dry Tanq martini on the rocks. Otherwise, I forget to mention the martini word.
3 while waing for my Home Run Inn pizza to go, now a red wine post-dinner.
Doubt I’ll make the game tonight. If only I was as young as WU…

"Lipstick traces on cigarettes can get you in trouble or remind you of the wonders of the night before."

by Chiburb on May 9, 2008 7:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Hey, is there a game tonight, Wizard?

Or what? PST be damned!

I took the "under".

by winningugly on May 9, 2008 6:58 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

patience grasshoper!

check out the tb rays concert schedule

mc hammer baby!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 9, 2008 7:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Do you see the hell I live in? "Popular" music acts?

The Rays have added two more popular musical acts to their 2008 Summer Saturday Night Concert Series.

The Rays are now offering seven concerts following Saturday home games this season at Tropicana Field. Added to the lineup are Latin Grammy winner Gilberto Santa Rosa as part of Festival Latino on June 14 and Loverboy, one of the top rock bands from the 1980s on July 5.

The Commodores, May 24 – The series kicks off following the Rays-Orioles game when the popular funk/soul band The Commodores perform as part of ’70s Night. The Commodores are a highly successful funk/soul band of the 1970s and 1980s known for their Motown days with #1 hits such as "Three Times a Lady," "Still" and their smash single "Brick House."

Trace Adkins, May 31 – Country music star Trace Adkins will perform on Country Night following the Rays-White Sox home game.

Gilberto Santa Rosa, June 14 – Headlining Festival Latino after the Rays-Marlins game will be Gilberto Santa Rosa, an artist who has successfully bridged the lively sounds of the rhythmical salsa patterns from the 1960s and ’70s with new sound formulas, which modified the genre at the start of the 1980s.

Kool & the Gang, June 21 – Kool & the Gang will perform for ’80s Night after the Rays host the Houston Astros.

Loverboy, July 5 – Following the Rays vs. Royals home game, Heroes Night will be highlighted by Loverboy, who in 1980 introduced themselves to the world with their self-titled debut album.

MC Hammer, July 19 – Hip-hop/rap artist MC Hammer will perform at ’90s Night after the Rays host the Toronto Blue Jays. MC Hammer is a multi-platinum R&B and hip-hop trendsetter with hits such as "U Can’t Touch This," "Here Comes the Hammer," "Pray" and "Too Legit to Quit."

LL Cool J, August 2 – The Rays Summer Saturday Night Concert Series concludes when the Rays host the Toronto Blue.

LOVERBOY? “Everybody’s Workin’ for the Weekend” LOVERBOY?

Kill me now.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on May 9, 2008 7:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

...and it's loverboy after a rays vs. royals game.

i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.

by MarketMaker on May 9, 2008 7:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Loverboy

was not one of the top bands of the 80s.

Optimist

by Peder on May 9, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

wake me when Sinatra comes back

"Lipstick traces on cigarettes can get you in trouble or remind you of the wonders of the night before."

by Chiburb on May 9, 2008 8:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

may 10

Anderson hits wall, wins honeys; Sox end sac fly drought

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 10, 2008 1:54 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

may 11

Bench showing signs of life

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on May 11, 2008 1:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs


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