What, is she funny or something?
That was some bell-shaped offense, uh, so to speak. From what I recall (and forgive me if I'm a little fuzzy...I drove back to Chicago after the game ended), we had 1 line drive total, from AJ, and it wasn't exactly laced. A lack of line drives has been a problem all year and it may well be something that continues. According to the THT Team Stats page, we're tied for last in line drive percentage with the Halos and Brew Crew. The upside is that we hit more flies than any team in the league. As you can see, that isn't necessarily a bad way to go. For one, the more flies any single player hits, the more likely he'll hit more home runs per flyball (notably uncited). But I wonder how well we could use this table to predict the quality of the Sox offense on any given night, knowing its exceptional reliance on the fly ball.
In any case, the other question I have is how much are the bats to blame tonight? I know SSH would crank this knob all the way to 11, but what exactly are your options when a pitcher is throwing a lot of strikes and has good stuff? De La Rosa was in the zone all night until his last inning and he managed 8 K's in a scant 5 IP, conceding a lone walk and a single. The Sox only put 7 balls in play, 3 of which were fly balls against the Rockies' starter. The math says that won't work, but what can you do? More to the point was a disappointing effort against the Colorado pen. Buchholz and Grilli aren't world beaters and aside from a couple nice curves from the latter, I didn't see anything that impressive from either. Fuentes gives every right handed batter a ton of time to see his fastball and didn't have much of an out pitch except for his loopy curve. I still like how we match up with basically everyone once the starters are gone, but you can't always win games in the waning innings. It happened Friday but not tonight. C'est la vie.
My biggest concern right now for the team is Q. He's lost his exclamatory marker for now and Hawk kept talking about some hand problems. He's in a dire stretch; I would really like to see him get a couple games rest after Thome gets back into the lineup.
This recap would also be incomplete without a little bitching about The Penguin's play behind the plate. He was sloppy on a couple balls in the dirt that led to free bases for the opposition and his double clutch on a pitch out that should have caught Taveras dead red was beyond aggravating. Clint Hurdle was "traditional" as DJ called it with his use of the normal grab bag of small ball tricks and do dads. "Predictable" I'd call it and Ozzie probably agrees. AJ gets my Sad Face of the Game. :(
Oh yeah, John Danks was masterful. His stuff was fantastic and he embarrassed a couple very good hitters. I'm not to the point where I expect greatness from him (pessimism and anxiety are hallmarks of my approach to sports fandom, particularly when watching on tv), but this outing was such a pleasure to watch that I can't wait for him to take the hill again. What an outstanding job by the organization all around, not to mention Mr. Danks. Johnny seems to be incredibly heady and adapts on the fly exceptionally well. His excellent season to this point might explain Pete's absence. My guess: he's either constantly running back to the Walgreens for more tissues or outright stalking Danks.
Okay, let's end this verbose labyrinthine mess with a note about the rubber match tomorrow. Aaron Cook's line for the year bodes poorly for us. He gives up very few line drives and fly balls. We won't K as much, but it will be difficult to get good lift on Cook's sinker.
Link(s)
- Jeeves' live blogged the game and has a few choice stats, one notably about BA's recent torrid pace.
- Jack Egbert's last 3 starts (scroll down for game log): 19 IP, 21 K, 1 BB, 17 H, 3 ER. He may be ready.
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Sorry, life has been interfering with my baseball obsession – too much going on at the moment, and the blackout in Indy sucks. You kind of lose your feel for the team when you can’t watch the boys every single night for six months straight. Keeping my fingers crossed, we needed a LOT of things to go right this season and a lot of it has – especially CLE and DET getting hammered by injuries. But the Sox are still as maddening as ever. Just when you thought it was in the bag they get swept by the Tigers and bring them back in the race, aaaaargh!
"The little things are always in my mind," he said. "I always like to move the guy over, I like to bunt."
whoever gets injured/implodes
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
not hoping to sell high on floyd anymore?
is that a reflection of a newfound belief in his ability or an unwillingness to tinker too much with a first place team? i would’ve been open to dealing floyd if the team wasn’t contending and you could get a legit hitting prospect in return, but now i think it would be too big of a risk. i’d rather have egbert as insurance for injury or ineffectiveness, as you mention, as i still don’t really trust contreras to keep up his current level of effectiveness, especially next year.
since the sox practically have an embarassment of riches when it comes to starting pitching, i’m sure they won’t be spending money on free agent starters next year, but one guy i’d love to see coop get a chance to work with is oliver perez. he’ll still only be 27 next year and you have to like coop’s track record with hard-throwing lefties with control problems. perez might come relatively cheap, too. as the resident pitching expert, what do you think?
I don't think KW could get away with trading Floyd at this point
unless he held a teach-in about DIPS and FIP and all that. And at this point, the best thing for the team is to make the playoffs. The increased attendance and profile will benefit all parts of the team, from free agents at the MLB level to Latin America. I really believe that you get to the playoffs with depth and minimizing below replacment performance. Predicting exactly of the weird stuff that happens every year to each team is impossible, but the general shape of the problem can be accounted for and so having as many contingencies as possible makes sense. For example, Josh Fields plays third, but is a stop-gap for JD, Swisher, Crede, Thome and Konerko. Alexei is an excellent example, as he can literally play everywhere except catcher and pitcher. For the last few years, we haven’t seen KW begin the season without an excess of starting pitching. I think after 2007 he may have extended his policy to the field as well.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
As for Perez, I haven't seen him pitch.
I do believe that you can only give Coop so many projects at once, but aside from constantly keeping Gavin and Contreras afloat, pretty much everyone on the staff at this point has an established track record and they aren’t too old.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
yeah, nice job!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Pressure's on the Count
Can’t afford another ‘07-like start, especially when there’s no bats to pick up the slack. Is there any other MLB team w/ no .300 hitters—especially among the leaders? Doubt it… I used to look forward to Thome/PK’s at-bats, but they’ve turned into auto-outs—kinda like BA w/ men on base. DeLaRosa had a nice curve, but ‘cmon, he’s not Koufax.
Good job, colin
OT – To all the Dads on this site (‘gater, Chi, and of course the newest member of the club, the sunshiny SSH immediately come to mind) have a great day basking in the role where your name is not important – it’s just Dad.
And to all you other slackers/kids/femms, if you can, call your Dad and tell him you love him, or go give him a hug (those living in your parents’ basement, I’m talking to you). Dad’s get one day a year to shine (some only deserve one) and this is it.
Happy Father’s Day, all.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
Cy De La Rosa...
Yeah, he was awesome. It must be tough to lay off the exact same pitch he used on almost every strikeout. The way low and inside junk that apparently none of the Sox hitters knew was coming even though De La Rosa kept throwing it to every batter. That was an embarrasing game. The Sox lineup lowered Cy De La Rosa’s ERA from 8.13 to 6.89. That is solid.
The Sox can’t beat the Rockies in a De La Rosa vs. Danks matchup. Meanwhile, the Cubs win a Marquis vs. Halladay matchup. Ridiculous.
Rockies @ White Sox (6/14/2008):
Cy De La Rosa's line -- 5.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 8 SO
The White Sox "unlucky" offense dropped Cy De La Rosa's ERA from 8.13 to 6.89.
No comments on the offense getting dominated by Cy De La Rosa?
Rockies @ White Sox (6/14/2008):
Cy De La Rosa's line -- 5.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 8 SO
The White Sox "unlucky" offense dropped Cy De La Rosa's ERA from 8.13 to 6.89.
did you watch the game at all?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Yes, did you?
De La Rosa was getting guys out with the same low and inside junk with two strikes. Any decent hitting coach would have informed the hitters of this. Hell, the hitters should have picked up on this on their own. Don’t swing at that crap and you can draw more than one walk. But I guess a starter with an 8.13 ERA on the season and a career ERA right around 6.00 is just an ace that no team can expect to hit, right? You are sounding more and more like Hawk.
Rockies @ White Sox (6/14/2008):
Cy De La Rosa's line -- 5.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 8 SO
The White Sox "unlucky" offense dropped Cy De La Rosa's ERA from 8.13 to 6.89.
wait, a guy who pitches like de la rosa beats our team?
get in the booth with hawk! your insight is amazing!
I'd rather read that than listen to some crap about how De La Rosa was lights-out.
Rockies @ White Sox (6/14/2008):
Cy De La Rosa's line -- 5.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 8 SO
The White Sox "unlucky" offense dropped Cy De La Rosa's ERA from 8.13 to 6.89.
Why do you suppose hitters who consistently swing through change ups continue to do so?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Seriously, you need to stop posting this pathetic crap.
Rockies @ White Sox (6/14/2008):
Cy De La Rosa's line -- 5.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 8 SO
The White Sox "unlucky" offense dropped Cy De La Rosa's ERA from 8.13 to 6.89.
Why does it bother you?
Rockies @ White Sox (6/14/2008):
Cy De La Rosa's line -- 5.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 8 SO
The White Sox "unlucky" offense dropped Cy De La Rosa's ERA from 8.13 to 6.89.
"so don't listen to it.
voila.”
Rockies @ White Sox (6/14/2008):
Cy De La Rosa's line -- 5.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 8 SO
The White Sox "unlucky" offense dropped Cy De La Rosa's ERA from 8.13 to 6.89.
i do it as a public service for this board.
no one wants to read about how your aspergers mind relates everything regarding the white sox to something about the cubs.
Because they are a lineup that can only hit one pitch -- the straight fastball.
Rockies @ White Sox (6/14/2008):
Cy De La Rosa's line -- 5.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 8 SO
The White Sox "unlucky" offense dropped Cy De La Rosa's ERA from 8.13 to 6.89.
if only that were an answer to the question I asked.
Here is the answer: because, like most hitters, being able to recognize every pitch is not feasible. Most everyone has a weakness. Paulie has always had a change up weakness. It is part of the mechanics of how he fundamentally can play baseball at a major league level. Why bitch about the inevitable?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
the cubs recognize every pitch.
and, when they do, SSH fellates his life-sized alfonso soriano doll.
Well, they do it much better than the Sox...
MLB Team Stats: 2008
#1 in OBP in the entire MLB
#2 in OPS in the entire MLB
#2 in AVG in the entire MLB
#2 in Runs in the entire MLB
#5 in SLG in the entire MLB
It sucks but it’s true.
Rockies @ White Sox (6/14/2008):
Cy De La Rosa's line -- 5.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 8 SO
The White Sox "unlucky" offense dropped Cy De La Rosa's ERA from 8.13 to 6.89.
ps check his pitch fx
no one can hit that pitch.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Okay Hawk, I will just accept that Cy De La Rosa is unbeatable.
Rockies @ White Sox (6/14/2008):
Cy De La Rosa's line -- 5.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 8 SO
The White Sox "unlucky" offense dropped Cy De La Rosa's ERA from 8.13 to 6.89.
that is definitely what I was getting at
You are either an idiot or purposefully obnoxious.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Whatever you say, Hawk...
Luck strikes again. The Sox “unlucky” offense scores only 3 runs today.
Rockies @ White Sox (6/14/2008):
Cy De La Rosa's line -- 5.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 8 SO
The White Sox "unlucky" offense dropped Cy De La Rosa's ERA from 8.13 to 6.89.
obnoxious it is.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
The next time a mainstream media outlet
Contextualizes what the Sox are doing in terms of the Cubs for no apparent reason, you’ll know why.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jun 15, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Because SSH is running the media outlet?
by hitlesswonder on Jun 15, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Scary thought, thanks.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jun 15, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
That could become an epic battle
Jim, the crusty yet resourceful leader of the rebel forces against the yelling screedisms of SSH’s Me-dia
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
It's nice to be able to go to this site and reliably find out that the Cubs are awesome and the Sox suck
I’ve got it bookmarked just for that purpose, you know.
by hitlesswonder on Jun 15, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
oh, congrats on the young one!
WU’s post reminded me
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Finally, some love!
Guys get cranky when Sox don’t win.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
Now we get to face the Rockies "ace."
Pitching, defense, health and 10 or more runs a game
How brutal will it be if the Sox lose a series to a 27-41 team. Awful.
Rockies @ White Sox (6/14/2008):
Cy De La Rosa's line -- 5.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 8 SO
The White Sox "unlucky" offense dropped Cy De La Rosa's ERA from 8.13 to 6.89.
Not very.
My life will go on, I know that much.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jun 15, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Not at all brutal.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
Is it your last pop tart?
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jun 15, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I live too close too the Hancock Building
to even let the thought enter my mind.
Pitching, defense, health.
Thome to get break against Cubs
After today’s series finale against Colorado, the White Sox have an off day Monday. Their homestand resumes Tuesday against Pittsburgh. After three games, they head crosstown to play the Cubs for three, starting Friday afternoon, at Wrigley Field. Since the DH is not used at National League parks in interleague games, Thome figures to be on the bench, regardless if he’s healthy enough to play.http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=207906“He will be available to pinch hit,” Guillen said. “I try to stay away from him (playing) at first base the most I can. I have (Nick) Swisher who can play first, too. Last year we played (Thome) a little bit and all of a sudden he takes like two weeks to recover.”
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

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