Game 74: White Sox (41-31) @ Cubs (45-28)
by The Wizard on Jun 20, 2008 12:16 PM CDT
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PrintChicago White Sox at Chicago Cubs, Jun 20, 2008 1:20 PM CDT
John Danks (LHP) vs. Ted Lilly (LHP)
Time: 1:20 p.m. CT, TV: WGN, Radio: WSCR AM-670 (B-R preview, Live Boxscore; 2007 MLB Gameday; 2008 MLB Gameday)
GO SOX!
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? larry posted: Hit List Rankings: White Sox, #4; Cubs, #1
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
Here's what happened
They posted “today’s games to watch” which had last week’s hit list rankings.
Larry posted that.
They posted the updated hit list rankings and updated the “today’s games to watch” article too.
Both feet on the bandwagon.
so can we see the REAL article? or at least the changes?
I’m shocked at larry.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
Here's the sox blurb from the Hit List
#3 Sox 41-31 Hit list factor .591Held to just 14 runs in their previous six games, the White Sox erupt for 37 in a three-game sweep of the Pirates. The deluge comes after they lose struggling Paul Konerko (.215/.322/.368) to an oblique strain; the White Sox first baseman could have earned a spot among the Replacement Level Killers had the competition not been so intense. Meanwhile, as one senior Sock struggles, another is rounding into shape: Mark Buehrle has delivered six quality starts in his last seven, good for a 2.77 ERA, less than half of the 5.81 he’d put up beforehand.
Both feet on the bandwagon.
The changes on the today's game to watch
were just changing the hit list ranking, everything else is the same.
Both feet on the bandwagon.
Lineups...
White Sox:
Cabrera SS
Pierzynski C
Quentin LF
Dye RF
Swisher 1B
Crede 3B
Ramirez 2B
Anderson CF
Danks P
Cubs:
Fukudome CF
Theriot SS
Lee 1B
Ramirez 3B
Soto C
DeRosa RF
Murton LF
Cedeno 2B
Lilly P
Cubs lineup looks pretty weak to me.
It looks like...
the Cubs are showcasing Murton for a trade.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jun 20, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Or...
Piniella has a banged-up Reed Johnson and Jim Edmonds and Edmonds is a lefty anyways. He wanted to stack their lineup with righties. Reed Johnson would be starting if he was 100%.
SSH the advanced Cub scout here
Keep it in the pants, SSH. Both hands on the keyboard at all times.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
If by "pretty weak" you mean one of the best in baseball, I agree
Months of cub-love from you about their offense and they now look “pretty weak”. You wouldn’t be setting yourself up for a post later about how the Sox underachieved would you? Hmmmm.
by hitlesswonder on Jun 20, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, what the hell?
it’s 6 of the 8 regular hitters. replacing soriano with murton or cedeno obviously a loss, but reed johnson only has a 90 ops+ (cedeno is 91). interesting how the loss of soriano alone has transformed the cubs’ lineup from lethal to pretty weak in ssh’s eyes.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on Jun 20, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess I should have said "weaker than normal"...
I would rather see Murton and Cedeno than Soriano and Johnson / Edmonds.
Blue Jays to fire their manager...
Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com reports that the Blue Jays will fire manager John Gibbons prior to Friday night’s game and replace him with Cito Gaston.
There’s a press conference scheduled shortly. Gibbons has gone 305-305 in parts of five seasons with the Blue Jays, including this year’s disappointing 35-39 mark that has the team in the AL East basement. General manager J.P. Ricciardi may also be on the hot seat at some point, but unlike in Seattle this time the manager takes the first fall. Gaston managed the Blue Jays from 1989-1997 and led the team to a pair of championships, but hasn’t managed since then, hasn’t skippered a winning team since 1994 and is now 64 years old.Source: FOXSports.com
the mlb.com front page has a great gaston picture.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on Jun 20, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
That was fast
I din’t know he was already hired.
Ricciardi should be shown the door after his A. Dunn rant. And they play Cincy next week, I believe. Should be fun.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
I had Gibbons in my First Manager to get the Axe pool
http://www.southsidesox.com/2008/3/27/363285/ozzie-guillen-favored-to-b
Missed by a week…
AIM: SouthSideCheat
Go Sox!
...hell of a day to be replacing Comcast with AT&T
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
hope BA
has a few key hits and gets going, batting in front of Danks isnt really a comfort zone, but either was batting in front of Uribe
by BestKosherPolish on Jun 20, 2008 12:56 PM CDT reply actions
When "protecting" your 8 hitter is your biggest worry, I'd say this lineup must be ok.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
Danks might be a little on edge
having to dodge the rodents scurrying around the dugout.
Pitching, defense, health.
jeff cox
better have that green light rolling, murton has a pods arm, fuku is okay, but may not be use to the center toss, and derosa had a hard time getting paulie when he was at 2b
by BestKosherPolish on Jun 20, 2008 12:57 PM CDT reply actions
Ozzie getting too caught up in the rivalry aspect IMO....
Hall should be catching (9-22 lifetime against Lilly).
Yeah, you're right. Lily has a bigger than normal split according to his PECOTA card
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
The annoying thing about this Cubs team is how good they are at getting on base
Presumably they’re still #1 in MLB. Johnny needs to have his A stuff and follow the Kazmir formula. If he is getting his change and curve over and his cutter is getting GBs, he should do alright.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
.359 obp is still tops in the bigs.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on Jun 20, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
we need bally to hook us up with a first pitch prediction
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
Are they saying anything about maybe when the game starts?
I just have the mlb package and it just says rain delay
I cant imagine its going to be any later than 30 min
Im 3 blocks from wrigley and its no longer raining. GN feed just showed the pitchers getting ready to warm up
The Post In Which We Are Required To Examine David Beckham's Man-Parts
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The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
LOL! Sun is shining downtown. Though there's still a rain cloud
over Ozzie’s head.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
Chi is premature!
But at his age, any action is welcome.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
passing off my dis of you to chiburb, eh?
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on Jun 20, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
btw, have you figured out whether you're headed to wine country this fall?
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on Jun 20, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
? FL is whine country?
I thought that was CA or NY, you OPOS.
(I got my Teutonic on.)
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
answer the question.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on Jun 20, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I answer in order of importance:
1. Ego
2. Self-disclosure
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
Not this year, sadly
Wife and kid just left for Maine today, headed to Chicago in August, and training for a marathon in November. No time this year, unless I can kick butt the rest of this year financially. (Money makes things timeless when you are married to a member of the Tribe.)
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
I got my Teutonic on once again Blood and iron. The Anti-Toonder (pacifist).
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jun 20, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Geritol When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...by Chiburb on Jun 20, 2008 2:39 PM E
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
Bleh
Doesn’t look like Lilly has more than a couple starts in the Kalk pfx data base. I was going to do a quick look like I did with Snell.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
I'll do it for you:
If the Sox lay off the pitches out of the zone and only swing at strikes, and aren’t afraid to go oppo then Lilly can be had.
Close?
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
And he has really sucked against non-2007 Sox teams.
Meanwhile, Cubs starter - and fellow southpaw - Ted Lilly (7-5, 4.76) is more familiar with the White Sox, against whom he is 5-2 with a 6.22 ERA in nine career starts. He has won his last two starts versus them, yielding five runs in 13 1-3 innings.
Looks like Uribe would be a good PH if Lilly is still in the game: 3-12 with 2 HR, only 1K
Sox vs. Cubs:
The Sox wear black ‘n’ white,
The Cubbies wear blue
They have Fookodome,
Ozzie says Fookoyou
Black ‘n white, Cubby blue, Fookodome, Fookoyou
Let’s call the Crosstown off!
- New from the Beachwood Sports Audio Desk
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
link
http://www.beachwoodreporter.com/sports/lets_call_the_crosstown_off.php
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
Er.
Looks like Kalk’s code is backwards. Select lefty to get righty…
Nothing really special, but he doesn’t like to use his curve against righties. Throws strikes and his fastball is very hittable. There isn’t a big swing and miss pitch, so getting behind isn’t the worst thing in the world. He looks pretty imminently solvable.
The slider is death and the fastball is hard to generate power against. Basically, every righty that can be in the game should be.
All in all, I like our chances. AJ will probably get owned all day, but our batters have done a good job not chasing all year. He’s “crafty” I guess and the sort of pitcher the Sox have struggled against, but it’s hard to see why. He gets huge break on his curve, but it looks like he saves it and doesn’t get a lot of whiffs on it anyway. According to his Player Card he throws it almost exclusively in two strike counts. We’ll probably see a few key double plays come from it and, going out on a limb, a BA strikeout.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
Stoney returns!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Single season splits are not predictive...
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
Afraid of rodents.
Doesn’t want to go back to dugout
Pitching, defense, health.
is he cuban proud?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
What did they say.
Pitching, defense, health.
Geez WGN thanks for cutting away from the pitch to show Jeff Cox wiffing on a ground ball
Both feet on the bandwagon.
cuban pride!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
When you've had the Castro-istas up your behind
and fear for your life, interleague play is candy.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
Instead, Anderson K's on a stupid high fastball...
Time to stop swinging at that shit Crede and Anderson.
Pitcher is hitting?
What is this the 1800s?
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 20, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Not that it would have mattered for that particular inning
but I think BA and Missle should have been flopped. Alexei’s contact skills make him a better fit for the #8 spot
AIM: SouthSideCheat
Two strikeouts on the same pitch
when hitters fight off the curve. The question is, will they learn?
Hawk: Danks is due.
Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN
I really don't like this zone so far
Tight zone bodes poorly for us. And seriously, D-Lee got away with one. So did BA and Crede.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
what was it off? fastball?
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
I don't think it was stupid
It looked like it initially.
But it might have taken more time to move a step to his right, plant, and fire… OC was able to catch and fire in one smooth motion. Nice play by OC… A little scary by Alexei..
AIM: SouthSideCheat
2 innings, 2 DPs
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
how is johnny boy looking?
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jun 20, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply actions
But MMaker wants Danks over MB in a big game...
Think the kid’s nervous?
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
Q!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Wow...nice catch...
but could have been a triple and a run.
especially when he strikes out
looking.
by homesickalien on Jun 20, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
NL needs the DH. Pitchers look so lame when they bat.
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
Especially when displayed in the Cell during the World Series
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
How's that?
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
I'd like to see him on 2B soon
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
Didn't say that, haha...
The numbers do say to start Hall. Ozzie lucked out. A.J. doesn’t hit many homers.
A FUCKING J!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
THE PENGUIN SAYS "STFU BLOGGER!"
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
Hey, a hittin' day!
It either is or it isn’t with this team.
gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them
by defensive indifference on Jun 20, 2008 2:32 PM CDT reply actions
Those damn Scubbies!
Arrrgh.
gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them
by defensive indifference on Jun 20, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
PUNCH AJ
I forget how good a player he is sometimes. It is easy to assume he will be good but he has been such a clutch player for us.
My Cubs fan made a joke this morning- wind blowin’ in, Sox won’t win. Hasn’t mattered much so far.
So what?
Can AJ now allow 3 steals before anyone is allowed to complain?
Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN
love your sig btw
DENTAL PLAN!
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
Question:
Is this the first “big game” that Danks has pitched in as a pro?
I can’t remember any bigger.
gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them
by defensive indifference on Jun 20, 2008 2:34 PM CDT reply actions
well he started in '07
so…yes.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
Were there no big games?
I guess he could’ve pitched in Cubs/Sox last year.
gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them
by defensive indifference on Jun 20, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I think any game he pitches in the next month is "big"
Considering how the Sox are trying to control the division.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 20, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
i would call his games against actual competitors of the sox more important
like, say, his two wins against the rays. but i suppose it matters what you call a big game.
nailed it
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
or, better, his first start this year against the indians
that was a fucking gem of a game and, if you subscribe to the “stopper” theory, winning that game to prevent a sweep against a team in the division to open the year was probably “bigger” for the sox than this.
crosstown traffic classic = biggest games EVA!
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on Jun 20, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty big rivalry...
you and your deathly cold logic
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
I knew somebody would give me that response.
I was 90% sure Larry would be first.
gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them
by defensive indifference on Jun 20, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Q also has a strong body with durable XL frame
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jun 20, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
They fear Q! (who wouldn't?)
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
Haha you read that Trib article didn't you
Never knew you could get paid to state the blatantly obvious.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 20, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Battle for the ages
Lily: I’m done throwing strikes
Crede: There’s not a ball thrown that I can’t pop-up
/Crede wins
AIM: SouthSideCheat
It's okay. Soon he'll be doing that for the Red Sox/Yankees ...
Come on Danks!
Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN
way to modify
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jun 20, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
i was thinking that one of those swings of his
was just about the ugliest swing i’ve ever seen. he almost fell over.
by homesickalien on Jun 20, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
oof.
question: is there a way they weigh NL pitchers’ strike-out totals considering they get to face pitchers?
Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN
yup.
every pound of NL strikeouts = 12 ounces of AL strikeouts.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on Jun 20, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
suck em up joe
'08 all star game--vote early vote often....for pablo ozuna...he could be a late inning defensive replacement...
Joe , Joe , my hero!
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
Does anyone here follow the Cubs?
Because I think I have confused Theriot and Fontenot for a year now.
Wine and Theriot?
Screw that, I’ll take Crown and Q!
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 20, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
it's like Macyurko & Harry: sometimes it sounds like 3 of them in the studio
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
this teams infield defense is so damn good
too bad we have morgan freeman out in right
btw josh fields can stay in AAA for all I care, we don’t need an outfielder.
if crede continues to keep this pace for the whole season
could he become a type a free agent?
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jun 20, 2008 2:46 PM CDT reply actions
gomez addams style.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on Jun 20, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Sems odd....
Dye’s homer goes on the street, AJ’s into the hands of a cheering Sox fan. Yet the game is delayed twice because balls are thrown back. Methinks it’s different balls. Jag off bleacherites.
Show mercy. I get to watch the Rangers.
the only Cubs players I like
are Lee and Murton. D Lee is all class and Murton is an oppressed fire crotch
I like Zambrano
Because he’s fat, stupid, and angry.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 20, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Game 74: Gamethread #2
http://www.southsidesox.com/2008/6/20/555739/game-74-gamethread-2
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
that bat went flying
'08 all star game--vote early vote often....for pablo ozuna...he could be a late inning defensive replacement...
and it's not as though you can predict before the game how often the 9th hitter will be up with 2 outs anyway.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on Jun 20, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
not very accurately. so then you say, hmm, maybe i'll give the shittiest hitter the least amount of potential plate appearances.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on Jun 20, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
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