Game 74: Gamethread #4
Walk-off time
- 6th inning -- Leadoff double. Stranded. Never moved.
- 7th inning -- Leadoff single. Stranded. Moved to second on 2-out walk.
- 8th inning -- Leadoff signle. Stranded. Erased on Crede GIDP.
- 9th inning -- Leadoff double. Stranded. Never Moved.
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PUNCH AJ
gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them
by defensive indifference on
Jun 20, 2008 4:21 PM CDT
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Craptacular
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
by tailgater on
Jun 20, 2008 4:21 PM CDT
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Stranding leadoff doubles...
This offense is awesome.
These ain’t the Pirates, guys.
by SSH2005 on
Jun 20, 2008 4:21 PM CDT
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The Pirates actually have a pretty good offense.
It’s their pitching that’s horrible.
by mjthor on
Jun 20, 2008 4:31 PM CDT
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Which is what I meant...
They aren’t facing Pirates pitching.
by SSH2005 on
Jun 20, 2008 4:32 PM CDT
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Leadoff double wasted...ugh.
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
by tailgater on
Jun 20, 2008 4:21 PM CDT
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I thought that was Dotel's job.
He’s not in.
gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them
by defensive indifference on
Jun 20, 2008 4:22 PM CDT
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that's not saying much...but for who?
A) RAMIREZ
B) SOTO
C) DE ROSA
D) ANYBODY ELSE
by stanchar on
Jun 20, 2008 4:22 PM CDT
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TECHNICALLY.
I called walkoff way before you. Stop biting my hate, poser.
Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN
by gafferland on
Jun 20, 2008 4:23 PM CDT
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i said this series was ova last night
so fuck all of you.
by larry on
Jun 20, 2008 4:24 PM CDT
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Series? Dude -- the season is over....
by hitlesswonder on
Jun 20, 2008 4:25 PM CDT
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and i called that like a month and a half ago.
and, to screw the rest of you, this franchise is ova.
by larry on
Jun 20, 2008 4:26 PM CDT
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You're going to escalate, huh?
I think it’s end of baseball as we know it.
Which means when the Cubs win the series this season, with no more MLB, they will be eternal reigning champions just to spite SSH.
by hitlesswonder on
Jun 20, 2008 4:30 PM CDT
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BA should have been in if he had not held up at 2nd
by Lawstudent201088 on
Jun 20, 2008 4:22 PM CDT
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That's 3 doubles wasted today?
Crap factory
by Ozzie Montana on
Jun 20, 2008 4:22 PM CDT
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We need a Cub fan neutron bomb...
drop it over Wrigley, only northsiders evaporate
by RoyEgan on
Jun 20, 2008 4:22 PM CDT
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an MX missile
that targets only Cubs fans.
by homesickalien on
Jun 20, 2008 4:23 PM CDT
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That was some bullshit
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 4:22 PM CDT
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I loathe Cubs fans more when they get a call.
assholes.
by homesickalien on
Jun 20, 2008 4:23 PM CDT
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Edited entry text... refresh to see...
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on
Jun 20, 2008 4:23 PM CDT
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lol
gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them
by defensive indifference on
Jun 20, 2008 4:23 PM CDT
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Fuck
Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck!
Both feet on the bandwagon.
by vince_ on
Jun 20, 2008 4:24 PM CDT
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We'll we called that shit
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 4:24 PM CDT
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Predictable...
Great game, offense.
You guys suck.
by SSH2005 on
Jun 20, 2008 4:24 PM CDT
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I like to defend you,
but you can be a real jag off.
Pitching, defense, health.
by ballyb on
Jun 20, 2008 4:25 PM CDT
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Why? You would have to be a moron to not see that one coming.
by SSH2005 on
Jun 20, 2008 4:26 PM CDT
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a kenny williams-level moron, presumably.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on
Jun 20, 2008 4:27 PM CDT
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At least you got to blow your wad that you were right, eh?
all about the silver linings.
by Trooper on
Jun 20, 2008 4:26 PM CDT
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1 less hit and 1 less run than the hallowed cubs offense. the gap is huge.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on
Jun 20, 2008 4:26 PM CDT
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And how many stranded?
With their thumbs up their asses on 2nd base?
by homesickalien on
Jun 20, 2008 4:27 PM CDT
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Hatehatehatehatehatehate
wherethe fuck is that tower?
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 4:24 PM CDT
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Jackson St,
right by the river.
Should get the job done.
by homesickalien on
Jun 20, 2008 4:27 PM CDT
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el tracks work great, too
aim for the third rail
by larry on
Jun 20, 2008 4:29 PM CDT
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ok.
feel free to FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND WHINE.
by homesickalien on
Jun 20, 2008 4:24 PM CDT
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Never expected that...never happens
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
by tailgater on
Jun 20, 2008 4:24 PM CDT
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Trade everyone
Fire Ozzie
This season is ovah.
by Ozzie Montana on
Jun 20, 2008 4:25 PM CDT
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Going home to lick wounds and drink heavily
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
by tailgater on
Jun 20, 2008 4:25 PM CDT
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That movie sure had a predictable ending, huh Larry?
by SSH2005 on
Jun 20, 2008 4:25 PM CDT
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I may be out of line, but you seem to revel in bad endings....
by hitlesswonder on
Jun 20, 2008 4:28 PM CDT
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oh, let him suck his own dick the one time in fifteen his predictions are right
by larry on
Jun 20, 2008 4:29 PM CDT
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I wish I could.
That would make me feel better tonight.
by SSH2005 on
Jun 20, 2008 4:29 PM CDT
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Marriage is supposed to solve that problem
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 4:32 PM CDT
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she got her baby. she's done with him now.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on
Jun 20, 2008 4:33 PM CDT
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Toonerstroke, you sure like posting about me.
Fatal attraction?
by SSH2005 on
Jun 20, 2008 4:44 PM CDT
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i'm not the only one who responds often to your reactionary posts and even a broken clock is right twice a day predictions.
so i’d have to say no.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on
Jun 20, 2008 4:46 PM CDT
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you too, bagger vance.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on
Jun 20, 2008 4:51 PM CDT
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Bagger Vance was black so it doesn't work.
Sorry.
by SSH2005 on
Jun 20, 2008 4:51 PM CDT
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but since you're asian we can go the minority caddy route and it does.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on
Jun 20, 2008 4:53 PM CDT
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must have been a different ssh2005 who posted on may 13.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on
Jun 20, 2008 4:54 PM CDT
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So it still doesn't work...
Keep trying though…
by SSH2005 on
Jun 20, 2008 4:54 PM CDT
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Glad I live in L.A...
...so I don’t have to listen to dipshit Cubbie boosters. People here are still crying over Kob.
by RoyEgan on
Jun 20, 2008 4:26 PM CDT
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2 more this weekend, 3 next weekend.
We’ll get ‘em.
Pitching, defense, health.
by ballyb on
Jun 20, 2008 5:07 PM CDT
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Our own fault
We blew that game. The bullpen is the walkoff machine
by Bull Pain on
Jun 20, 2008 4:26 PM CDT
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Dotel, dead
niedermeyer dead, linebrink dead.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on
Jun 20, 2008 4:26 PM CDT
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i think the headline of this thread
speaks exactly to what i was saying about the sox inability to manufacture runs
its either all or nothing with the home run swing….today they fell short
by The Scoper on
Jun 20, 2008 4:28 PM CDT
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I must have missed the 3 runs the cubs scored on bunts
by madvillian on
Jun 20, 2008 6:02 PM CDT
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you did. it was actually a 7-3 final.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on
Jun 20, 2008 6:06 PM CDT
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I'm seriously sick to my stomach.
Anyone still at their CPU and not puking their guts out over the trash can, what is the record for walkoffs against?
Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN
by gafferland on
Jun 20, 2008 4:28 PM CDT
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should ozzie have pinch hit Ozuna instead of Thome?
and had him bunt?
by shaftr on
Jun 20, 2008 4:29 PM CDT
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Damn!
We shoulda played Toby and not even let the Cubs get the thrill of the walk-off.
Hindsight. So clear.
by homesickalien on
Jun 20, 2008 4:29 PM CDT
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Lost the last 7 games on the road, with 4 walk-offs
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on
Jun 20, 2008 4:30 PM CDT
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And me too.
We willed that ending from here.
by homesickalien on
Jun 20, 2008 4:32 PM CDT
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I'll start deleting negative comments tomorrow
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Jun 20, 2008 4:33 PM CDT
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the negativity is maddening, but this ain't china, wiz.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on
Jun 20, 2008 4:34 PM CDT
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So our comments weren't really negative predictions...
they were educated guesses.
by homesickalien on
Jun 20, 2008 4:31 PM CDT
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So we were in it
until the very end in most of those games!
by sti3 on
Jun 20, 2008 4:52 PM CDT
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f it!
lets win the next two….im hoping come playoff time that this loss is nothing to speak of
by The Scoper on
Jun 20, 2008 4:31 PM CDT
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no way they can win the next two silly.
the games start out tied, and you know the cubs every game with a tie via the walkoff.
by Trooper on
Jun 20, 2008 4:32 PM CDT
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That's it
Everyone put a smiley face in their comments tomorrow.
Blind optimism is the key!
by Ozzie Montana on
Jun 20, 2008 4:32 PM CDT
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Blind pessimism
with the hope that you’re wrong is the weakest kind of bet-heding.
by sti3 on
Jun 20, 2008 4:34 PM CDT
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[Pokes head in]
Hi, what’s going on, guys? I miss anything?
/>[Runs away]
by The Actual El Guapo on
Jun 20, 2008 4:32 PM CDT
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ah, the Cubs success is clearly unsustainable
they aren’t playing small ball. All they do is hit solo HRs…
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on
Jun 20, 2008 4:32 PM CDT
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you didn't see that clever swinging bunt single to get the scoring run on base?
that was the difference!
by Trooper on
Jun 20, 2008 4:34 PM CDT
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we have been blessed with great bullpen play so far
its unfortunate the pen blows it but overall they have been very good. its bound to happen. lets get them tomorrow
by The Scoper on
Jun 20, 2008 4:34 PM CDT
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stop it. not reactionary enough.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on
Jun 20, 2008 4:34 PM CDT
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sorry
im jumping off the golden gate!
by The Scoper on
Jun 20, 2008 4:35 PM CDT
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yeah you're supposed to commit terrorist acts after losses like this
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
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Jun 20, 2008 4:37 PM CDT
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08 LINEBRINK = 07 BUCKVICH?
"I would rather have a battalion of German soldiers in front of me than a platoon of French soldiers behind me."
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Jun 20, 2008 4:34 PM CDT
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they both have eight letters in their name
so, maybe.
by explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit on
Jun 20, 2008 4:35 PM CDT
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hell yeah.
‘08 linebrink: 30 ip, 1.67 era, 3 hr against, whip under 1
‘07 bukvich: 35+ ip, 5.05 era, 5 hr against, whip 1.7
they’re like twins.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on
Jun 20, 2008 4:37 PM CDT
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lol
can I be pissed for a minute?
"I would rather have a battalion of German soldiers in front of me than a platoon of French soldiers behind me."
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Jun 20, 2008 4:38 PM CDT
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yes. linebrink gave up the gw homer. but he ain't no bukvich.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on
Jun 20, 2008 4:38 PM CDT
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For today's game he was.
Dotel = 1 walkoff against, Linebrink = 2 walk off’s against?
"I would rather have a battalion of German soldiers in front of me than a platoon of French soldiers behind me."
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Jun 20, 2008 4:40 PM CDT
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Is Danks starting tomorrow too?
Johnny is a total badass and pitched his balls off once again
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Jun 20, 2008 4:35 PM CDT
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even if they won...
they still play that gay ass song which really makes them losers.
"I would rather have a battalion of German soldiers in front of me than a platoon of French soldiers behind me."
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Jun 20, 2008 4:36 PM CDT
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The Cubs go into O'Hare last night at 1:15 am
any way we can keep them up even later tonight? Maybe BA can offer up some of his castoff honeyz?
Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN
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Jun 20, 2008 4:36 PM CDT
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That's their beauty of the day game
Going to Wrigleyville and getting plastered with 75 year old women and DePaul frat boys at 5 means you’re passed out by 10.
by Ozzie Montana on
Jun 20, 2008 4:38 PM CDT
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hmm....ssh went to depaul...
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on
Jun 20, 2008 4:39 PM CDT
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hey you spelled it wrong
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 4:48 PM CDT
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Still nope
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Jun 20, 2008 4:54 PM CDT
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I am pretty sure I got it right that time.
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Jun 20, 2008 4:57 PM CDT
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i think we've pinpointed your reading comprehension issue.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
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Jun 20, 2008 4:58 PM CDT
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i don't even get why you think it's funny or insulting
but i don’t understand anything else you do or say, so i guess i should just come to terms with the fact that X percent of the population is fucking nuts.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 5:17 PM CDT
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Shut up and get a job, lazy ass hippy.
by SSH2005 on
Jun 20, 2008 5:19 PM CDT
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just a sec, i got to take a call on my iphone
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by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 5:23 PM CDT
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But for the record Loyola ain't the school of hard knocks
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Jun 20, 2008 4:40 PM CDT
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a Rambler wold've hit better than Crede today
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Jun 20, 2008 4:51 PM CDT
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Yes Horizon League athletics are the tits
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Jun 20, 2008 4:52 PM CDT
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I meant an actual rambler, but
as an LUC alum, I agree
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Jun 20, 2008 4:53 PM CDT
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I really hope we fucking win tomorrow.
I really don’t want to set foot in Wrigley down 0-2 in the series. My girlfriend probably doesn’t want me fighting stupid ass Cubs fans.
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Jun 20, 2008 4:38 PM CDT
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seriously
anyone know the record for walk-off homerun losses in a season? We’ve got what? 5 so far?
Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN
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Jun 20, 2008 4:38 PM CDT
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Recap:
1. Fuck.
2. Fucking fucker fuckface fuck. Fuck.
3. Jerry Owens sucks because he … AHHHH!!!! FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK!!!
4. ???
5. Profit.
by The Actual El Guapo on
Jun 20, 2008 4:39 PM CDT
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This is disgusting...
- 6th inning—Leadoff double. Stranded. Never moved.
- 7th inning—Leadoff single. Stranded. Moved to second on 2-out walk.
- 8th inning—Leadoff signle. Stranded. Erased on Crede GIDP.
- 9th inning—Leadoff double. Stranded. Never Moved.
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i know why weren't we trying to advance runners?
I blame this game on Ozzie… 2nd loss of the year that he has cost us thus far.
"I would rather have a battalion of German soldiers in front of me than a platoon of French soldiers behind me."
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Jun 20, 2008 4:41 PM CDT
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Ah can't take the anger
Will see you folks on the interwebs tomorrow even though the season is over.
by Ozzie Montana on
Jun 20, 2008 4:42 PM CDT
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I vent here
That way I get it out of my system.
Both feet on the bandwagon.
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Jun 20, 2008 4:44 PM CDT
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Aramis is a douche
“No, I wasn’t sure if the ball was out, I just hit it hard”.
Really? Then why did you drop the bat and pose? Douchebag.
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Jun 20, 2008 4:45 PM CDT
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I'll give him a break.
Hit the game tying and game winning homers in the 7th and 9th innnings of a rivalry game at home—if anything is poseworthy, it’s that.
by The Actual El Guapo on
Jun 20, 2008 4:49 PM CDT
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Okay I'm all better
Can this thread now be about hilarious image macros?
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by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 4:46 PM CDT
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what? your happiness and will to live didn't hinge on this baseball game?!?
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on
Jun 20, 2008 4:47 PM CDT
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Colin!
I thought you were dead, man!
by homesickalien on
Jun 20, 2008 4:48 PM CDT
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Im way too lazy to be suicidal
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Jun 20, 2008 4:52 PM CDT
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That is the greatest excuse for a will to live...
Being lazy.
Let’s hope motivation doesn’t strike you on the day of a Sox loss.
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Jun 20, 2008 4:59 PM CDT
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Can't afford SSRIs?
Take up a laziness habit!
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by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 5:13 PM CDT
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Ha.
Real fans are dead right now.
by homesickalien on
Jun 20, 2008 4:50 PM CDT
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Something like this?

Both feet on the bandwagon.
by vince_ on
Jun 20, 2008 4:48 PM CDT
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MOAR
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by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 4:51 PM CDT
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physics jokes are the best jokes
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by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 5:10 PM CDT
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I just imagine he misspelled "brent"

AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on
Jun 20, 2008 5:06 PM CDT
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moarplzkthx
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by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 4:57 PM CDT
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Well
The Sox fucked that won up every bit as much as the Cubs won it.
Fuck I am going to get so much shit if I go out tonight, these are the times I hate living in Rockford
by 815Sox on
Jun 20, 2008 4:54 PM CDT
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I was waiting for that
and your right, I hate it most of the time.. but its cheap to live here.
Actually I’m looking at jobs in the city and madison.
I don’t think I’m going out tonight, all of my friends but 2 are cubs fans… thats how bad it is here.
I’ve even had cub douchebags say to me “your supposed to cheer for the Cubs.. we are on the north sides… we are a suburb” ... no douchebag… we live 2 hours away
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Jun 20, 2008 4:58 PM CDT
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Going somewhere after work
Defiantly keeping on the Sox road jersey I have on. Take that bitches!
by sti3 on
Jun 20, 2008 5:01 PM CDT
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Fuck it
Maybe I will… I’ll wear my 2005 World Championship Hoodie… play into the sox fans are “thuggy” sterotype a little
by 815Sox on
Jun 20, 2008 5:05 PM CDT
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be sure to rock some sunglasses
and a coke habit
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Jun 20, 2008 5:16 PM CDT
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Driving down to the Rockford Housing Projects now
I’m saying fuck the coke….. I’m just going straight to crack
by 815Sox on
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lets be honest
Sox fans cant afford a coke habit. Crack is the drug you are looking for there.
by louisiana lumberman on
Jun 21, 2008 12:02 AM CDT
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point taken
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by colintj on
Jun 21, 2008 1:21 AM CDT
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Also Day 3
Of no smoking or chew. I had to take a walk I was so pissed. I was also pounding down a PBR… I probably looked scary as shit
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Jun 20, 2008 4:55 PM CDT
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I've been quit 2 and a half years
First month or so is the worst. Although probably a little better now there’s the smoking ban.
Both feet on the bandwagon.
by vince_ on
Jun 20, 2008 4:58 PM CDT
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Yeah
I’m using a few piece of nicorette as needed. I’ve only needed two today surprisingly. I’m going to do it, I’m really sick of smoking plus its killing the wallet.
by 815Sox on
Jun 20, 2008 4:59 PM CDT
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When I tried nicorette
I only lasted a couple months.
This time I went cold turkey.
The other thing that sucks is the weight gain, it sneaks up on you.
Both feet on the bandwagon.
by vince_ on
Jun 20, 2008 5:00 PM CDT
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I could use a few pounds
The weight gain is actually a plus for me.
I’m also taking a few walks a day and lifting again.
The nicorette is sortof helping. I think I’m going to wean myself off it by the end of the week and pass on the rest to a friend. I’ve went from 9 pieces, to 8, to 3 so far today… probably have one or two more
by 815Sox on
Jun 20, 2008 5:03 PM CDT
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A Cubs walk-off homer in the 9th requires more than a PBR.
I need some freaking absinthe or something.
by homesickalien on
Jun 20, 2008 4:58 PM CDT
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good luck. really tough to get the real stuff anymore, even from europe.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on
Jun 20, 2008 4:59 PM CDT
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True
I tried some legit stuff in Prague and also had some in a hostel in Budapest. It was just like really strong liquor. Although at the hostel I ended up blacking out and coming too making out with this Italian chick while my friends laughed at me. So its not all bad
by 815Sox on
Jun 20, 2008 5:01 PM CDT
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Ohh I got some heavier stuff
The PBR was just a good “walking beer”
I’m actually thinking of going down to the local microbrew and picking up a growler of some IPA
by 815Sox on
Jun 20, 2008 5:00 PM CDT
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Spotted Cow @ the office for me
Cub fans here aren’t the prickish kind thank goodnes.
by sti3 on
Jun 20, 2008 5:02 PM CDT
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new glarus brews a good beer.
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by Toonderstrook on
Jun 20, 2008 5:03 PM CDT
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New Glarus
Love that stuff… Spotted Cow gives me the gas though…
ohh yeah the sox suck… I’m pissed blah blah blah
by 815Sox on
Jun 20, 2008 5:04 PM CDT
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I prefer actual hallucinogenics for my Cubs loss rebooting
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by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 5:01 PM CDT
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i just snort coke off the urinal in the office bathroom.
by larry on
Jun 20, 2008 5:08 PM CDT
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you don't even have your own bathroom?
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on
Jun 20, 2008 5:09 PM CDT
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i wouldn't snort coke off my urinal.
gotta watch out for my health.
by larry on
Jun 20, 2008 5:12 PM CDT
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i was wondering whether you'd cop to that
your secretary and i are this close to calling an intervention
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by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 5:12 PM CDT
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Ozzie, Ozzie, Ozzie.
Danks,
2rd inning - 3 up, 3 down.
4th inning - 3 up, 3 down.
5th inning - 3 up, 3 down.
6th inning - 3 batters faced, a soft single , double play.
Dotel,
Pitching, defense, health.
by ballyb on
Jun 20, 2008 5:12 PM CDT
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bally continues his attack on playing the percentages and using statistical analysis in baseball.
by larry on
Jun 20, 2008 5:13 PM CDT
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% being what?
Pitching, defense, health.
by ballyb on
Jun 20, 2008 5:14 PM CDT
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it's very very costly to the offense to hit the pitcher
so as soon as you can get to a good bullpen, you should. we have an outstanding bullpen.
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by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 5:16 PM CDT
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Why does our starter EVER work past the 6th then?
Pitching, defense, health.
by ballyb on
Jun 20, 2008 5:17 PM CDT
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do we play in the AL or the NL?
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by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 5:17 PM CDT
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i realize most of us don't care about national league baseball and strategy
so, as an fyi, it’s the correct move to pinch-hit for your pitcher in that situation.
by larry on
Jun 20, 2008 5:16 PM CDT
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Up by 2 and he's on a roll.
WRONG MOVE.
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by ballyb on
Jun 20, 2008 5:18 PM CDT
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hey that's enough math for me
er, maybe not…
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by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 5:18 PM CDT
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RIGHT MOVE
and i can prove it with evidence.
by larry on
Jun 20, 2008 5:19 PM CDT
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Ok, i'd like to see that.
Both feet on the bandwagon.
by vince_ on
Jun 20, 2008 5:22 PM CDT
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go to the game thread where this was discussed and purchase the book mentioned
cornucopia of information, including this.
by larry on
Jun 20, 2008 5:23 PM CDT
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Can you give the execuive summary?
Don’t have time to read this book.
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by vince_ on
Jun 20, 2008 5:24 PM CDT
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I think we did that
http://www.southsidesox.com/2008/6/20/555791/game-74-gamethread-4#
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by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 5:25 PM CDT
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that didn't work at all. but just scroll up to my comment to bally
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by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 5:26 PM CDT
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How much a marginal win is it?
Over a full season, how many marginal wins are we talking?
Also does the analysis take into account the effect on run prevention, not just run creation? If this were the AL, the right move would be to stick with your starter. So the question is twofold – is that the best move from a run prevention point of view, and if it is, what is the difference between the cost on the run production side vs the cost on the run prevention side.
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by vince_ on
Jun 20, 2008 5:30 PM CDT
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stuff i could answer if i could find my damn book
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by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 5:37 PM CDT
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I tried to find my copy of The Book and failed
sry
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by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 5:23 PM CDT
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I’d have to say pulling Danks was definitely not the right move in that situation- although I don’t know your team that well…does he usually stay on a fairly low pitch count? He was only at 85, could have definitely taken it into the 8th.
The other strange move to me…is Thome THAT bad in the field these days that he can’t play 1B? I don’t see why you don’t keep swisher in the OF and Thome at first. Seemed weird to the
by Canseco's Roid Party on
Jun 20, 2008 5:29 PM CDT
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The math's been done, so I consider that strategem decided.
Thome is an injury risk, primarily. The cost of him playing a game or two at what is now an unfamiliar position seems to not make sense when the overall effect of a single loss is minimal (and of course, he’s only 1/9 of the offensive side of that loss). Not to mention he’s bad against lefties, which of course Lilly is.
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Jun 20, 2008 5:36 PM CDT
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Got it. I am not familiar with the math you’re referring to, is it in “the book”? Haven’t read that (was a math major so I’m coming from that side of things, just thought this seemed unusual. although i guess the cubs pitchers ALWAYS have ridiculously high pitch counts by the 6th anyway so it doesn’t come up much over there) as I like the double-switch type strategy in the NL a ton, it would be interesting to read. As Ozzie is far from the most mathematically sound manager in the game, I doubt that is why he did it. But hey had the PH led to a big inning, it would have been a great call.
by Canseco's Roid Party on
Jun 20, 2008 5:46 PM CDT
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Ozzie is actually pretty good at this sort of in game stuff
the perception that he’s an idiot is a matter of the media’s characterization rather than an actual analysis of his moves. besides it isn’t like the MSM is good at that sort of breakdown anyway. for me,it’s his random assed bunt tendencies that irritate. aside from that, he rarely errs egregiously. and the book in question is literally titled The Book. it’s by Tom Tango et. al.
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by colintj on
Jun 21, 2008 5:24 AM CDT
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You know
I’m as big of a saber USE FUCKING REASON guy as anyone - but this is the rare situation where I say fuck the math. So, what - the winning percentage goes up for teams on the road up 3-1 when they pinch hit their hitter in the top of the 7th: but anyoen with one good eye could see Danks was pitching excellently.
One thing that seems to happen is that Ozzie’s leash is too long with the veteran starters and often not long enough for Danks.
by madvillian on
Jun 20, 2008 6:14 PM CDT
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Danks was "getting ropes laid out against him"
As Hawk and many people here agreed
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by The Cheat on
Jun 20, 2008 6:44 PM CDT
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"getting ropes laid out against him"
is not based in fact.
Lee hit one to the warning track and 2 or 3 “reasonably” hard hit grounders in the previous 4 innings.
One last whine before I head to bed.
We’ll kill ‘em tomorrow.
Pitching, defense, health.
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Jun 21, 2008 12:37 AM CDT
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something sox fans themselves seem to forget (so don't feel bad not knowing)
is that the last time thome played in the field, he missed some subsequent games because he messed up his back doing it.
by larry on
Jun 20, 2008 8:03 PM CDT
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7th inning - 5 pitches, 2 HRs.
Pitching, defense, health.
by ballyb on
Jun 20, 2008 5:14 PM CDT
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he made the right moves
they just didn’t work. and the one questionable one, putting in AJ, worked. what are you going to do?
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Jun 20, 2008 5:14 PM CDT
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5 bucks says he gets skewered in the media over the weekend though
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by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 5:14 PM CDT
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oh, of course.
he’s already gotten skewered on here for it. we know what talk radio is going to do and what the newspaper.
by larry on
Jun 20, 2008 5:17 PM CDT
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probably should have asked for more than 5 then
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by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 5:18 PM CDT
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I think he deserves to be criticized.
Pitching, defense, health.
by ballyb on
Jun 20, 2008 5:21 PM CDT
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no way. not even a little.
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by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 5:24 PM CDT
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of course.
why be fair. whine, whine, whine.
by larry on
Jun 20, 2008 5:24 PM CDT
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Previous 4 innings,
5 K, 4 GO, 2 FO, 1 “soft line drive single (Gameday description)”.
NOBODY (underlined, in red) was hitting him hard.
The real strength of our bullpen has been getting the ball to Linebrink in 8 and Jenks in 9. Why mess with success? The only valid reason for taking out Danks is he told Ozzie he was tiring and I very much doubt that happened. At least let him pitch in the 7th til someone gets on. Worst case its 3 – 2, and bring on the bullpen.
It was a gut move and it didn’t work. IMO, it was the wrong move. I still think that overall he handles his pitchers masterfully, but no one is perfect.
Pitching, defense, health.
by ballyb on
Jun 20, 2008 7:04 PM CDT
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a couple of things.
as cheat pointed out, the real problem with the white sox offense in the sixth was that it left danks to lead off the top of the 7th. the choice of whether to allow danks to hit or to pinch hit was really what precipitated the pitching change, not that danks was getting hit hard or that he was tired. that was the strategic move, not the pitching change.
second, dotel has had a couple of rough outings but overall has done very well in the 7th and 8th.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on
Jun 20, 2008 7:07 PM CDT
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It wasn't cut and dried,
but fuck the math (& I’d like to see a reference that says pinch hit for a pitcher who’s faced the minimum in the previous 4 innings and has a 2 run lead AND a STUD bullpen to call on), you gotta let Danks start the 7th.
Pitching, defense, health.
by ballyb on
Jun 20, 2008 7:23 PM CDT
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i don't think it was cut and dried either.
and surely if danks had made the last out in the top of the 6th or this had been the series next weekend, he would have started the seventh. but we can’t judge the move based purely on the 85 pitches, mowing them down facts, because danks was going to lead off the seventh. no matter whether we agree with ozzie’s call or not, it wasn’t as simple as let the guy with the hot hand stay in the game.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
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Jun 20, 2008 7:30 PM CDT
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BCB is hysterical right now.
Sample post:
/>[Response]: Yay [thing]!!!
[Response]: [Thing] rules!!! We rule!!! Sux suck!!!
[Response]: Hooray [thing]!! Hooray everything!!!
[Response to Response]: [Thing] is awesome!! I love my team!!!! Because of [thing]!!! Sun is good!!! Fire is good!!! We love food!!! Yay sun!!! Yay food!!! Good is good!!!
Repeat.
by The Actual El Guapo on
Jun 20, 2008 5:20 PM CDT
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[Hits website with wrench]
Live, damn you!!! Live!!!
by The Actual El Guapo on
Jun 20, 2008 5:24 PM CDT
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Well, that might have been funny.
But we’ll never know.
by The Actual El Guapo on
Jun 20, 2008 5:21 PM CDT
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Sooo...
Anyone think that the Sox will win the next two?
**crickets**
by SSH2005 on
Jun 20, 2008 5:23 PM CDT
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We lost by 1 against the best NL team at a park that wasn't the Cell
man we sure do suck. oh wait, isn’t your record in 1 run games more luck than skill?
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by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 5:25 PM CDT
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including 12 of 23 times this year.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on
Jun 20, 2008 5:27 PM CDT
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I asked a simple question...
and you couldn’t answer it.
Maybe that’s why you don’t have a job.
by SSH2005 on
Jun 20, 2008 5:29 PM CDT
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easy, ssh. not just anybody can test tee-time database software.
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by Toonderstrook on
Jun 20, 2008 5:34 PM CDT
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honestly
the only thing more predictable than the Sox meltdown was Jabroni’s meltdown.
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by The Cheat on
Jun 20, 2008 5:37 PM CDT
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The offense going dead for 6 innings was even more predictable.
by SSH2005 on
Jun 20, 2008 5:39 PM CDT
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broken clock...
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by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 5:40 PM CDT
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I'm pretty sure you weren't actually asking a question
hence “crickets“
you are making a comment on your own pessimism which you hoped would extend to the rest of SSS. i doubt it will.
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Jun 20, 2008 5:39 PM CDT
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Go Sox!!!
What did I miss??
Hottest Sox fan: Hephaestus, god of fire!
by thecip on
Jun 20, 2008 5:30 PM CDT
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MOAR MACROS KTHX
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by colintj on
Jun 20, 2008 5:39 PM CDT
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Don't worry, no new recipes.
Though I am still holding out hope …
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Jun 20, 2008 5:40 PM CDT
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is it the last thing that's holding you?
i’m wary of making this reference since basically no one likes do the collapse
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Jun 20, 2008 5:44 PM CDT
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you should have been more wary, you gbv-infected lazy jobless hippie.
Half Dome is my bitch. Shasta is next.
by Toonderstrook on
Jun 20, 2008 5:46 PM CDT
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I'm trying I'm trying I'm trying I'm trying!
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Jun 20, 2008 5:56 PM CDT
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Can we get some instant replay?
blank”>http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl_3_1.jsp?mid=200806142926044&w_id=723482&w=/2008/mlb%21/mlbam/2008/06/20/mlbtv_chachn_400k.wmv&pid=mlb_lg&gid=2008/06/20/chamlb-chnmlb-1&fid=mlb_lg400&cid=mlb&v=3
1:48 , 1-1 count, Cabrera batting. Ball hits foul pole, does it not?
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Jun 20, 2008 5:43 PM CDT
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No, it definitely hit the wall
before Podsednik’s head.
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Jun 20, 2008 5:55 PM CDT
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We can sit here and anaylize what happened but the real question is
Which sucks more left field or right field?
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Giant Bowl of Suck
INGREDIENTS
Joe Crede (except when he does good things)
Pop up
Decision to take out Danks
Hypothetical decision to leave Danks in
1/8 teaspoon dried marjoram
Not having a job
Having a job
Man on second, nobody out
Crickets
White Sox offense (except when it does good things)
White Sox bullpen (except almost all of the time)
DIRECTIONS
Place all ingredients in a blender or food processor, blend until thick and smooth.
Coat grill grate with aluminum foil. Poke holes in the foil and spray with cooking spray. Arrange mixture on grate, and cook 15 minutes, turning once and brushing constantly until juices run clear.
Throw result away. Log on to website. Bitch, moan, repeat.
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Jun 20, 2008 5:51 PM CDT
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*ahem*
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