Let's Forget This Weekend
I'm sitting here procrastinating, reluctant to put fingers to keyboard, watching SportsCenter on ESPN. They're doing a story on rabid fans and their plans for the afterlife. They've profiled some fans having their ashes spread on an English football pitch, others being buried in a special area next to the stadium, and a line of MLB-themed caskets and urns. There's a 40-year old in a Yankees T-shirt sitting in a dank little room full of Yankees memorabilia with the Yanks urn on his lap.
I'm not one of those guys. I have a couple 2005 T-shirts, one (replica) Jersey (no name or number), one Sox hat that I don't wear anymore and a few thousand baseball cards '88-'90 in my closet. I'm a Sox fan, obviously, but I don't wear it on my sleeve. In fact, there are plenty of people who have no idea that I run this site or that part of the reason I don't wish to discuss the latest reality show fad is that I was busy watching one of the 150 Sox games a year that I'm able to fit into my schedule.
I don't know exactly where I'm going with this, but I think my initial point was supposed to be about perspective. I think I have it. I can't always be sure, but I think, as obsessive as I am about the Sox--and you have to be obsessive to write about them for 4 years for essentially no benefit--that I keep it within the realms of the clinically sane.
There are times that I just need to vent or take a few days off, and I've never hesitated to do either.
That being said, I think I'll refrain from writing about this past weekend's thrashing at the hands of the Cubs. I was already tired of the Cubs-Sox hoopla when I was asked to provide some quotes for a Chicago Tribune story on "whether both teams’ good play so far this year will affect the fans’ sense of rivalry."
I never responded--I rarely respond to anything that hits my inbox--Somehow I doubt the traffic gained from my single 'I don't really care about the Cubs. They're just another team.' comment would have been worth the time and effort of moderating the trolls it would no doubt attract. I'm sure the Powers That Be at SBN won't appreciate reading this, but I have no intention of making this the biggest Sox site on the net.
I want to have a site that I don't have to babysit. And it should be filled with the best and brightest the White Sox faithful has to offer. So, my gift to you this Monday morning, an SSH-free day. He'll be back tomorrow, but I thought it best for all of us if we had a day to decompress in his absence.
You're welcome.
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One thing about the game
because it’s humorous…
Best media moment: A Sun-Times columnist asking security staffers Saturday to safeguard him from one of his colleagues, who asked for a conversation. Request denied.which reinforces what I posted in ChiBurb’s letter to the editor FanPost
It apparenly happened Saturday because this note was included in the Trib’s liveblog
Jay Mariotti asked for a security presence to safeguard him from his colleagues. UPDATE: Mariotti is cornered in the lunchroom with his cell glued to his ear, whining to his bosses about the inconsiderate behavior of his Sun-Times peeps, who apparently don’t like him.
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Jun 23, 2008 12:58 AM CDT 0 recs
poor jay
on top of that my friend was in the city yesterday and Mariotti almost got hit by a car.
"I would rather have a battalion of German soldiers in front of me than a platoon of French soldiers behind me."
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Jun 23, 2008 1:45 PM CDT
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*saw
"I would rather have a battalion of German soldiers in front of me than a platoon of French soldiers behind me."
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Jun 23, 2008 1:45 PM CDT
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Karma - if it only made contact!
d*mn the bad luck.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on
Jun 23, 2008 1:55 PM CDT
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No kidding
the way he told the story Mariotti had Toonderstrook and Larry on speed dial… He was probably instructed by one of them to carry around a “spare” neck brace.
"I would rather have a battalion of German soldiers in front of me than a platoon of French soldiers behind me."
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Jun 23, 2008 3:19 PM CDT
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Cheat you're the best bcause of that
You let me post whatever I want no matter how shite the quality out of sheer faith in the goodness of Sox fans and then completely negate the value of a three game series with our “rivals”. Evidence further that you navigate the complexities of blogdom brilliantly. Thanks again for the respite and the space to express myself. How you stay nearly without ego in a pursuit that’s so egotisic I won’t know.
/asskissing but what the fuck ever
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jun 23, 2008 1:11 AM CDT 0 recs
Thank You!
I know I don’t post on this site very often but I am a bigger Sox fan than I let on. I watch as many games as I can and though I do not let it consume my life I do my best to catch up every day when I do not have a chance to watch the game. Part of my nightly routine is to spend at least 20 to 30 minutes reading this blog depending on the degree of interest the posts provoke on any particular night. One of the reasons I go here instead of any of the countless other places where I can get my sox news from is that, unlike most other places, when I come here I am always certain to find what you (Cheat) were referring to as perspective.
I know I can always come here and see the whole picture. For every person who is screaming that the season is over there is a voice of optimism whispering in the background. For every person preaching on ignorant hope there is a voice of realism ready to bring them back to earth. And for every weekend when there just aren’t enough words to really make sense of what happened, there is Cheat, offering us perspective.
I don’t always agree with everything that is said here, and I certainly don’t get as fanatic as some of you here but I love baseball and I love my Sox just like the rest of you. I am grateful to be able to come here everyday and this post only reminded me why. Thanks Cheat!
by Sox Fan Louie on Jun 23, 2008 1:43 AM CDT 0 recs
word dude
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on
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Cheat would be singing a different tune
if we would have swept the Cubs. I have a feeling that a little bit of Cheat’s “Sox Pride” died over this weekend. Cheat if you ever need a break, WTGTD will be more than happy to post a recap. My sox pride was reinforced over this weekend, I was obviously wrong to think this team was going anywhere.
"I would rather have a battalion of German soldiers in front of me than a platoon of French soldiers behind me."
by Where Triples Go to Die on
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This weekend -- quite obviously -- sucked
I was looking forward to this series more for the fact that the Sox were going to get a chance to show what they had against one of baseball’s best. Not that a three game set out of 162 is something you can draw a whole lot from, min you, but it was still a series I was certainly looking forward to. I don’t want to completely discount the “Crosstown Classic” factor - my dad is a Cubs fan and at Marquette I know a lot more people who root for the boys in red and blue than I know Sox fans - but it’s certainly lessened over the years (I’m sort of sidetracking here).
I’m just disappointed because we didn’t see the good or even average Sox team. Outside of a handful of guys (Dye, Danks, Quentin… some other guys had a non-terrible but nothing noteworthy series, too), we saw a poor weekend from our guys. Whether it was Contreras throwing BP on Saturday, Vazquez suddenly (or maybe not so suddenly—he’s been shaky his past several starts, although I expect him to rebound. He’s battling his command right now, that happens.) having no inkling on where the strike zone is, Crede not hitting the ball hard…
I don’t know… I’m sorry if this reads as more of a ramble. This weekend was tough, but it’s times like this that I’m glad I’ve completely weened myself off of ESPN “analysis” and other mainstream media output. This has become my sole outlet for talking Sox, as it’s generally a great balance of passion and reason minded-ness.
by CWSKeith on Jun 23, 2008 2:01 AM CDT 0 recs
Cheat, have I said thank you lately?
I agree with the above posters and have only one thing to add:
An SSH-free day is like when the lifeguard at the public pool blows his whistle to signal “adult swim”.
Thx for that too.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jun 23, 2008 4:35 AM CDT 0 recs
I went to this game
My second (and last) experience in the bleachers at Wrigley.
The heckling in the bleachers was pretty brutal.
The Sox’ play was also brutal.
But as I contemplated after the game whilst getting my drink on, the only thing that really upset me about this game is the Sox only being 1 1/2 games in 1st. Ultimately, I could give a rats patootie about how the Sox play the Cubs; any Cubs fan heckling really has no bite because you can end any argument with “talk to me when you win a World Series in your lifetime.”
Vazquez was poor today, in fact, I’ve got a terrible record watching the Sox in person this season – 0-3 and only 2 runs scored over all 3 games. But still, it’s just one weekend against an opponent that is not in our division. If the Twins had lost today I wouldn’t have really cared that much.
This may not be a great team, but I still think they are a good team. They just didn’t show it today at all.
Both feet on the bandwagon.
by vince_ on Jun 23, 2008 4:42 AM CDT 0 recs
Count me in as one of those whose ashes are getting spread
on the old Comiskey site (yes, it’s a parking lot) and has 2 actual seats from 2005 sitting in my garage. That being said, I don’t live and die with each win/loss, but rather frequent this site because of the diverity of opinion and the interesting ways those opinions are present. It’s fun.
That being said, it hasn’t been as much fun this past weekend, so thanks, Cheat, for allowing (perhaps) some fresh air to permeate. Everyone needs a break once in awhile.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jun 23, 2008 6:07 AM CDT 0 recs
hmmm, did you mean "diversity of opinions"?
back to your old tricks, eh WU? ;)
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on
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The only good news
is I was unable to watch most of Saturday and all of Sunday. Brutal. Should I be concerned about Javy? Did he look that bad (wild) or is he just going thru “that” period most go thru at some point in the season.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Jun 23, 2008 8:49 AM CDT 0 recs
Im pretty sure it's mechanical, so I figure Coop will hopefully get that cleaned up
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on
Jun 23, 2008 8:55 AM CDT
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This is 4 starts in a row, IIRC...
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by winningugly on
Jun 23, 2008 9:19 AM CDT
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Never saw him with serious control problems before.
Behind in most counts – not good in the majors.
Pitching, defense, health.
by ballyb on
Jun 23, 2008 9:33 AM CDT
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His shoulder is flying open again
which hurts his control with his fastball, and it makes his curve roll rather than snap. It basically makes most of his pitches junk. Its a flaw that he has fallen into many times over his career, and you can even see AJ telling him to stay closed.
by Rockraines on Jun 23, 2008 9:25 AM CDT 0 recs
Yeah I could see him emphasizing and pointing to his own front shoulder when he threw the ball back
accurate diagnosis IMO
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on
Jun 23, 2008 3:09 PM CDT
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what / who is SSH?
and why is today a free day?
regards
Sox fan from England, marching on together
by hoodlight on Jun 23, 2008 10:00 AM CDT 0 recs
South Side Hate?
He’s a fence sitter who leans to the North Side, and is about as pessimisstic as a man can be. Not great to have to listen to when we are already down. Not as much of a problem when the Sox are winning.
by Grinder in Training on
Jun 23, 2008 10:22 AM CDT
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why don't you just ban him
if he is such a pain in the ass
Sox fan from England, marching on together
by hoodlight on
Jun 23, 2008 10:37 AM CDT
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Cheat, rightly so, is slow to ban people.
I think he trusts that the grown-ups here can self-police the Negative Nellies, and that’s true for the most part. However, at times it becomes tiresome, and easier to just stay away from the site or gamethreads for a while.
In this case, Cheat chose to give a “timeout”. Do they have such things in modern Brit parenting?
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on
Jun 23, 2008 11:19 AM CDT
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as I say below
I don’t think it’s censorship, no one is stopping him going and setting up his own web blog.
Sox fan from England, marching on together
by hoodlight on
Jun 23, 2008 11:29 AM CDT
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It’s good to have a counter point and someone to play devil’s advocate, but some days you can do without it. I think a a temporary ban works well here.
by Grinder in Training on
Jun 23, 2008 11:32 AM CDT
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It's not even counterpoint
Banning somebody for going against the grain would be stupid.
It’s the nonstop harassment and tailing posters from thread to thread whenever a point of evidence happens to fall in his favor that gets tiresome—especially since there’s a gigantic mountain of proof (Andruw Jones, Eduardo Perez, various Wilsons, for starters) that shows his analysis is merely reactionary.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on
Jun 23, 2008 11:45 AM CDT
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Nice reaction, GIT
Wait, I’m reacting, too! Jim, you got me.
;)
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by winningugly on
Jun 23, 2008 12:20 PM CDT
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Ha
Wasn’t much I could say, he was definitely right, and I was not.
by Grinder in Training on
Jun 23, 2008 1:00 PM CDT
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yes it can be tiresome but banning him, even for a day, is still stupid on my book
grow some thick skin folks
if you don’t like the guy, don’t read/respond to his messages
I don’t have a problem with SSH
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Jun 23, 2008 1:10 PM CDT
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SSH is the SHIZNIT!
"I would rather have a battalion of German soldiers in front of me than a platoon of French soldiers behind me."
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Jun 23, 2008 1:23 PM CDT
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I didn't say that
I just don’t like banning someone because we don’t like with his pov on the sox
I admit I’ve banned a couple users fro m SSS but that was either for spam or hate
SSH hasn’t done either of those…
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Jun 23, 2008 2:07 PM CDT
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you know
i was agreeing with you until i read over his comments on the gamethread this weekend (this search function is a handy tool). i’m quite glad i decided to foresake those after friday. things got totally out of hand with that guy. i don’t care about his point of view on the sox. however, i’m fairly certain posters on here do not need to be called “pussies” and “jobless loser” repeatedly. this has nothing to do with thick skin. it has to do with displaying a level of civility commensurate with reasoned discussion. i’m sure we would all admit to crossing the line once in a while in this area when frustration or whatever gets the better of us. but he crossed well over the line and stayed there. i’m fairly certain that if SSH was not a regular poster on this site he would have been outright banned for his conduct this weeked because i’ve witnessed others banned permanently for lesser conduct.
i'm retired. get off my lawn.
by larry on
Jun 23, 2008 2:18 PM CDT
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Hey, eff you.
Puss.
;)
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by winningugly on
Jun 23, 2008 2:19 PM CDT
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so, we are allowed to use 'pussies' but he's not?
that smacks of hypocriticy
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Jun 23, 2008 2:24 PM CDT
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spellcheck may be needed at the end!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Jun 23, 2008 2:27 PM CDT
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have i missed a lot of other posters exhibiting similar malice towards other members of this community?
if so, throw them in there, too.
i'm retired. get off my lawn.
by larry on
Jun 23, 2008 2:31 PM CDT
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<--- Yes!!!
"I would rather have a battalion of German soldiers in front of me than a platoon of French soldiers behind me."
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Jun 23, 2008 2:35 PM CDT
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take a look yourself
term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11
term: pussy, user: all, count: 83
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Jun 23, 2008 2:45 PM CDT
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"malice"
and now i’ll go back to my not posting.
i'm retired. get off my lawn.
by larry on
Jun 23, 2008 2:47 PM CDT
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Aw, don't be like that, lar
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by winningugly on
Jun 23, 2008 2:48 PM CDT
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you mean SSH used it maliciously but you/we didn't?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Jun 23, 2008 2:50 PM CDT
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Wiz, I am usually on your side
but if you can’t see the stylisitc and intellectual differences in the posts of our 2 protaganists this is going nowhere. Just read the posts. SSH added almost nothing and was beating his opinion over our heads with a club (Cub?).
IMHO.
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by winningugly on
Jun 23, 2008 2:54 PM CDT
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who decides that he adds nothing?
isn’t that arbitrary?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Jun 23, 2008 3:02 PM CDT
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christ. meaningless discussion is why i'm avoiding posting and here i am dragged into it again. i'll remember to just stay quiet in the future.
is calling someone a jobless loser, and other variants thereon, adding anything? seriously? and people say i argue just to argue.
i'm retired. get off my lawn.
by larry on
Jun 23, 2008 3:07 PM CDT
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of course calling someone a jobless loser doesn't add anything
no question there
my point is why when we do it is humor and when SSH does it is malice?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Jun 23, 2008 3:11 PM CDT
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Basically every regular user expressed severe annoyance toward him
That’s a qualititative measure. In my little Cubsessed fanpost I laid out my reluctance to take punitive measures, but it got the point where long time users like larry and WU were avoiding the site. Again, that’s a qualitative measure: the value of the community is reduced when the intelligent user base is reduced.
And as long time users of the English language, I don’t see why we can’t determine the qualitative difference between “Monsignor Non Sequitur” and “jobless loser”. One’s a clear attempt at humor and the other is not.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on
Jun 23, 2008 3:19 PM CDT
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ok
the level of my english is not where I’ll feel qualified to judge his intent so I’ll leave it to those with a better grasp
ps. there’s no irony, at least none intended in my words
I don’t think I can determine so I’ll drop it…
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Jun 23, 2008 4:50 PM CDT
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you’re something else, wiz. i wish i retained your level of naivety.
i'm retired. get off my lawn.
by larry on
Jun 23, 2008 3:21 PM CDT
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that's a little much
don’t be such a grumpy mcgrumperson :(
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on
Jun 23, 2008 3:53 PM CDT
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ok
I thought it wasn’t malicious
my english comprehension ain’t the best…
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Jun 23, 2008 4:58 PM CDT
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"Good posting" is obviously subjective
I won’t fault him for Friday, the negative comments started before Dotel blew the game when the offense didn’t move any runners and Cheat posted that “worst inning ever” comment. It just went south after that and SSH just became bolder with his whining.
I don’t think it’s right to ban someone from a forum where he can vent. The team was bad this weekend, I think a lot of us were more than pissed off.
The problem, at least IMO, was that he was attacking people for no reason other than the Sox were losing. I think I made a comment about easing up on the pessimism, and a personal attack followed. I’m a big boy and can handle that, but this isn’t the ESPN board. Personal attacks should never surface here, and if so extinguished easily. I’m a newcomer to this site and love how it’s allowed me to become more passionate about the Sox while learning more about evaluating players. Why should that opportunity be sullied with people who are just using gamethreads to bait people?
by Ozzie Montana on
Jun 23, 2008 4:17 PM CDT
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yes
personal attacks are legitimate grounds for suspension
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
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Same here.
I understand playing devil’s advocate and provoking the more intellgible of regulars on the site (I am not speaking of myself here, mind you) to defend the difference in conduct between themselves and SSH.
I haven’t been around long, but I could distinguish that difference in my very first gamethread here.
SSH is probably only not banned because he does provide some statistical and legitimate commentary, IMHO.
But overall, I wonder if he isn’t just here to provoke and be provoked. Some guys just walk into a bar looking for a fight, and that’s sort of how I think of him.
But just as has been mentioned – the best way to fix the bully is to ignore him. Let him talk to himself if he bothers you.
My “pussy” count is probably still in the single digits, but you can tell when it is used in bullying or in humor. Like Larry said, SSH exceeds the usual need for thick skin. You need thick skin and the ability to just look the other freaking way.
Treat him like any other Cubs fan!
by homesickalien on
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I was going to stay out of it for personal reasons
but…
I think you’ll find that SSH started it maliciously after learning that HSA was a female. His reply to that, without looking it up, was “Pussy Pussy Pussy”.
You’ll also find that most “pussy” usage after that was clearly mocking him and his cluelessness.
At least that’s how I remember it.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on
Jun 23, 2008 3:02 PM CDT
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ROFL
I JUST GOT MY NEW SIG!
"I would rather have a battalion of German soldiers in front of me than a platoon of French soldiers behind me."
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Jun 23, 2008 3:16 PM CDT
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See, I asked if you were in a bad mood, Wiz
Itchin’ for a throwdown, ain’tcha?
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by winningugly on
Jun 23, 2008 2:33 PM CDT
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How come I was never banned?
Must have been that while I was being an asshole… I was funny doing it.
"I would rather have a battalion of German soldiers in front of me than a platoon of French soldiers behind me."
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Jun 23, 2008 2:32 PM CDT
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Youre kind of like the resident jester
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on
Jun 23, 2008 3:21 PM CDT
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That was harsh...
"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11
term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Jun 23, 2008 3:26 PM CDT
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Nice
tag line!
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on
Jun 23, 2008 3:28 PM CDT
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thx
"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11
term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
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As the player haters ball would have it...
HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE!
“Well well well, if it isn’t the most diabolical haters this side of the Mississippi.”
"I would rather have a battalion of German soldiers in front of me than a platoon of French soldiers behind me."
by Where Triples Go to Die on
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Word
This sight is awesome.
Maybe this weekend motivates the Sox…
Ozzie is great because I think he is just as upset as any of us. Maybe now his earlier plea(s) for a roster move gains some traction? Dewayne Wise was impressive and added some much needed speed in center. Thome can’t even play 1st for 1,2,3 games? Swish struggled at first and at the plate. And whats with this pitchers batting nonsense anyway I like AJ, but his D is lacking and I’m still uneasy about him batting second. CQ can’t do everything the entire year (has a write in ballot allstar ever won MVP?).
All that said we are in 1st. Bring on the Twins, we weren’t going to win it without beating them anyway. Maybe warmer weather will heat up our hitters, which seems to be Ozzie’s new catch phrase to keep himself from expressing a desire for more offensive firepower.
by No It All on Jun 23, 2008 10:16 AM CDT 0 recs
Good early season test
The crowds this weekend had to be the near-loudest many players have experienced, in or out of dome. Interesting to consider the effect on both teams.
It was painful that the Sox as a team seemed to regress through the series to last night’s whimper.
In the end, I think the Sox are more than competitive with the north-side team.
by tommyjoepeters on Jun 23, 2008 10:18 AM CDT 0 recs
I am forcing myself to step back from the ledge and
put my very “cranky” weekend in the rearview mirror. Talk about a trainwreck…geez…and on national TV…double geez.
This weekend could set things right with the Sox world again…or make it completely unbearable…who knows?
However, beyond this weekend, on the upside, the Sox schedule isn’t terrible in July with 6 vs. KC, 6 vs. TX, and a smattering of games with Oakland, Detroit and a whopper of a series in Minnesota and the tail end. These are series that SHOULD be won by the Sox if they buck up and get their act together, with pitching and hitting in sync. Hey, it could happen.
Meanwhile, in July, the Twins have many games vs. Cleveland and Detroit (so it will be nice to watch the rest of the division beat each other up), as well as series in Boston and New York.
So do like Steve Perry and…”Don’t stop believin’, hold on to that feelin’”
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
by tailgater on Jun 23, 2008 10:23 AM CDT 0 recs
Coincidence
That I used all seven of George Carlin’s words you cannot say on TV last night while I was watching the game?
RIP George – I know he is in heaven with Tim Russert, arguing politics and snorting an eightball.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jun 23, 2008 10:26 AM CDT 0 recs
Wow - just happened yest - I had to look it up
I thought you were joking or I missed hearing about it. Jeez


