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2008 MLB Draft Day 1

The draft starts in about an hour. Use this thread to discuss.

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2008 MLB Draft Day 2

Jun 2008 by The Wizard - 120 comments

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I wanna get Smoaked!

please baseball gods!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 12:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

g.beck.

cheat this video says march 2008, what do you think?

http://www.mlb.com/components/flv/beckham_gordon.flv

improved over the 2007 version?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 12:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jim Callis' draft day mock

has us taking Yonder Alonso

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/mock-draft/2008/266271.html

he got the first 15 picks right in 2005, which is unheard of.

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by The Cheat on Jun 5, 2008 12:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

figures

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jun 5, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Definitely pissed me off...

A minor league farm system that desperately needs talent should be open to spending a few bucks. You can’t justify spending $4.5 million on a year of Juan Uribe but not on a possible future stud that will be with the team for years.

by SSH2005 on Jun 5, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alonso doesn't seem to be worth it.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thos crazy splits have me wary

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

indeed

he isn’t top ten in my book. but whatever. ymmv

by larry on Jun 5, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

now that tim beckham will go 1st

we may stumble on to skipworth?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

won't kenny grab skipworth if he's available?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think we has much insight into who the Sox like and dislike

But a catcher would make me happy, for sure.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

*have

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as long as it's not donny lucy

It’s definitely a big hole in our system, and 1B is a lot easier to fill through free agency if we don’t have one come up through our system soon.

by Grinder in Training on Jun 5, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's he done lately?

2005 was a good year for a lot of us.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Jun 5, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so

Beckham, Posey and Alvarez…then?

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 12:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My internal mock matches Callis until the Sox at #8

I’ve got wallace there.

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by The Cheat on Jun 5, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wallace works for me

Jim’s going to experience some kind of lingering injury that’s going to suck
him back into realizing he’s almost 40 and everyone else his age is calling games by now.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

First baseman Chris Carter did everything he could to give Stockton (Athletics) a win last night. Down 1-0 in the ninth, Carter launched a two-run homer run to give his team a 2-1 lead. Bakersfield (Rangers) tied it in the bottom of the inning and Carter strolled to the plate with a runner on in the 11th. Once again he sent it packing, giving his team a 4-2 lead and ultimately another win.

No regrets, but this has a flair for the dramatic… I think he hit something like 5 or 6 walkoffs in ‘06, added a few more last year, and I think this is #2 already this year.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jun 5, 2008 12:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

his K rate makes me think that it won't go too badly for the Sox

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

advanced A

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockton_Ports

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Next year...

I’m following prospects much closer. I have no clue about most of these guys

Bloggin'

http://bierjournal.blogspot.com/

by Six Pack on Jun 5, 2008 12:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's not worth it

especially if the Sox draft in the lower half of the first round.

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by The Cheat on Jun 5, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

from espn.com
More pre-draft buzz (1:57 p.m.): Law is hearing that catcher Kyle Skipworth from Riverside, Calif., will indeed go to Florida at No. 6.

by Ryno on Jun 5, 2008 1:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So:

1. Tim Beckham
2. Posey
3. Alvarez
4. ?
5. ?
6. Skipworth

Here’s hoping Crow and Matusz are the blanks

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 1:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

if this holds, we may get smoaked baby!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

g.beck and posey?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alvarez second to the Bucs

and Hosmer third. That’s what I’ve gathered (and by gathered, I mean “think”).

by CWSKeith on Jun 5, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

er.

Looking at Callis’ it seems like Posey could drop to us if the Fish are taking Skipworth. That would be ideal. Super ideal.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Posey is asking for big bucks

I wish that didn’t matter, but I think the Sox want signability…

by CWSKeith on Jun 5, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Posey

If he gets to 8 and we pass that’d be pretty disappointing.

by Grinder in Training on Jun 5, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta take Posey if he falls to 8. Absolutely.

Sue the guy who was just fired from the Sox for money laundering and get that Latin bonus money back!

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Jun 5, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thnk Kenny gets it

I think he realizes what penny pinching costs you in the draft. Their philosophy was intentionally to draft on the cheap by taking low celing high floor types.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bwckham going first will be good for the sox

chain reaction: one more college guy(posey) for a Smoak liker to take

Skipworth to Marlins was determined a month ago at least

by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 5, 2008 1:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Posey wont fall to us

but it leaves a better chance to be smoaked

by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 5, 2008 1:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

waiting at these five minute intervals...

...is worse than watching a pot of water waiting for it to boil.

may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"

by Toonderstrook on Jun 5, 2008 1:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I imagine teams are "urged" to take the whole five minutes...

because there’s really no reason these teams need anything more than 30 seconds to make this pick. It pretty absurd, and this is the drawback of the draft being ESPN’ized.

by CWSKeith on Jun 5, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

here and there and everywhere.

trying to take care of things before taking off for yosemite this afternoon.

may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"

by Toonderstrook on Jun 5, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

anybody heard any rumors

about what the reds are looking for? mock drafts have been all over the place for them. g-becks would seem to make sense for them, or posey if he fell that far.

by Ryno on Jun 5, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Beckham

If he’s there, they’ll grab him

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by The Cheat on Jun 5, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

beckham the elder according to callis

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

mayo too

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

which hopefully puts those damn beckham to us rumors to bed

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

poor pete alvarez.

an injury-riddled year from heading to the rays instead of the pi-RATS.

may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"

by Toonderstrook on Jun 5, 2008 1:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It will probably look like a bad pick into next season, as he'll still lack pop

but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s the best player in the draft

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by The Cheat on Jun 5, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is the first domino of the draft right here

if KC goes Hosmer, a Boras Bonus baby, Posey could be available.

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by The Cheat on Jun 5, 2008 1:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that is what I'm seeing/praying for

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, we know they're not afraid of big bad boras so let's keep our fingers crossed.

may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"

by Toonderstrook on Jun 5, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

at ease. it's not like he fell into the second round or something. ;-)

may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"

by Toonderstrook on Jun 5, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not invested in him -

just the C position seems to be one of those with a dearth of talent/depth in MLB. Especially lousy teams.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Jun 5, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed. that's why it'll be huge if he is still around at 8.

may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"

by Toonderstrook on Jun 5, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cheat, do you have an opinion on hosmer?

forget the money for now

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You didn't ask me, but...

everything I’ve read has him as the consensus best high-school hitter in the draft. Beyond that…?

by CWSKeith on Jun 5, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It looks like a high risk pick to me

They have to be sure his bat is eventually an average first baseman’s. That’s hard to know at age 18.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

never even bothered to read a scouting report

knew he was a big bonus boras guy, so I didn’t bother

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by The Cheat on Jun 5, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks guys

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

he’s the best prep bat in the draft

lots of power potential and could move to the outfield with his strong arm(but sluggish range)

by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 5, 2008 1:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

kc hosmer

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

YES!

I think one of Posey or Smoak will get to us now (as Cheat mentioned).

by CWSKeith on Jun 5, 2008 1:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

YES

we should have good names available

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

any chance both might? and if so, then what?

may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"

by Toonderstrook on Jun 5, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I was bawlmer, I'd try to keep filling out positions

Jones and Wieters are a heck of a start.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lord if we pass Smoak

bad thoughts

btw, I woke up at 12:59, I had one of those moments where you’re sleeping, and all of a sudden you get the thought to wake up

ERIC HOSMER IS A VELOCI RAPTOR

by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 5, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If the mocks are correct

4. Matusz
5. Smoak
6. Skipworth
7. G. Beckham

would leave us the opportunity to cheap out again

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by The Cheat on Jun 5, 2008 1:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and take wallace over posey?

that would be extremely disappointing based on position alone.

by Ryno on Jun 5, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow I would be sad

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's where the Smoak takers get more dangerous

it would have sucked if I slept through the draft after skipping school

by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 5, 2008 1:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yes

wht will the giants do?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Join the dark side, Buster. Good guys wear black. Oooohhhhhmmmm.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 1:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

good lord

its going exactly as the mocks

by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 5, 2008 1:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Can we get lucky and have the Giants skip Smoak and go with Alonso?

I shouldn’t complain if they take Smoak—the first four picks went pretty well from a Sox perspective.

by CWSKeith on Jun 5, 2008 1:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

they have vil at 1b and then so many holes

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

whew!

giants and smoak make a lot of sense though

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 1:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Game Update

O’s up 2-1 on twinks. 5th inn.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jun 5, 2008 1:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Posey gone

Smoak probably gonna be available

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by The Cheat on Jun 5, 2008 1:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yes!!!!!!!!!!!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

shit.

Wonder how ESPN managed to have their catcher piece before Posey was taken…

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 1:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you men on tv?

nope…

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

mean...

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah...

you seem to not know the picks till we post it. just curious

by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 5, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

yeah

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Itll be one of Beckham, Smoak or Crow, in any case.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 1:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

or...jor-dan danks...jor-dan danks...

may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"

by Toonderstrook on Jun 5, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

kenny was at SEC (s. car.)

not ACC (georg)

I hope it’s smoak

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they're both in the SEC wiz

lol

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well Miami's not

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by The Cheat on Jun 5, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, that was related to alonso being ACC

may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"

by Toonderstrook on Jun 5, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh yes

it was something else then

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the White Sox select

A SLAP HITTING OUTFIELDER FROM TEXAS

by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 5, 2008 1:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

are you averse to the whole reply thing?

may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"

by Toonderstrook on Jun 5, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm expecting that

What would Kittle do??

by thecip on Jun 5, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

have I mentioned how cool is your avatar?

it’s freakin awesome!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yippy skippy...

may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"

by Toonderstrook on Jun 5, 2008 1:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wow he's got a gorgeous swing

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 1:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

also Law has done a good job so far

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 1:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I want to hear more from him and Callis

and less from the trio they have on-set.

by CWSKeith on Jun 5, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

definitely

they don’t do much value adding, do they?

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this thing is going exactly like half the mocks out there

I have to say, all the teams have made rather predictable picks. Maybe me following the draft 10 times more than last year has something to do with it…

by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 5, 2008 1:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This is working nicely for the Sox...

Do the Reds take a pitcher or Gordon Beckham?

by SSH2005 on Jun 5, 2008 1:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Smoak still projected as a 1B in the bigs?

I’m disappointed Posey wasn’t around, to be honest. Would have liked to see the Sox get a catcher. Catching just seems like a more difficult piece of the puzzle than finding a first baseman.

Go Sox!

by luzinski on Jun 5, 2008 1:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

reds alonso

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

GET SMOAK!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE KENNY

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fuck...

Now the Sox actually have a choice between Gordon Beckham and Justin Smoak.

They better fucking pick Smoak.

by SSH2005 on Jun 5, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wow.

good for them, I guess?

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

uh-oh

gives us the opporunity to take gordy over smoak

by Ryno on Jun 5, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

GET SMOAKED KENNY

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

or makes danks the cheapest top 10 bonus baby in history.

may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"

by Toonderstrook on Jun 5, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it wouldn't be a bad pick

Castro looks like the only really, really absurd pick here. The Sox have a couple of different options.

by CWSKeith on Jun 5, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice and sane there keith

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It'll be Beckham The Older

When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...

by Chiburb on Jun 5, 2008 1:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i agree.

may 1, 2008 quote of the day: "get owens on the field immediatly… swish can take quintens role…"

by Toonderstrook on Jun 5, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just no rim shots

When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...

by Chiburb on Jun 5, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and smoak was there

he wasn’t picked dammit

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why?

Does everyone want yet another base clogging power hitter, havent you seen enough of that? Beckham was a GREAT Pick

by Rockraines on Jun 5, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

FUCK SHIT ANUS NIPPLE

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

FIRE BECKHAM

FIRE OZZIE

FIRE KENNY

by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 5, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is we the Jets?

When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...

by Chiburb on Jun 5, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't that how they react every year to every pick?

When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...

by Chiburb on Jun 5, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I know

But I ain’t gnashin’ my teeth over someone who might make it, might not.

Besides, we need a 2B or SS on the farm and in Chicago w/in the next couple of years.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Jun 5, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

FUCK....

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Figures

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jun 5, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

!!!!

sorry wiz

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 1:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

fucking reds....

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess there's no confidence in silveiro

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by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

really? Where'd you hear it? Fallout from whathisface no doubt.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can't really take a 17/18 year old into consideration.

If it ever happens, whoever has the better glove stays at short.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow...

you guys know a lot more about amateur baseball than I do.

I don’t know anything about these guys.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jun 5, 2008 1:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

BA says:

Beckham’s outstanding junior year has been light-years ahead of anything he did in his first two college seasons. He was not even considered a guaranteed first round pick before the season began and was undrafted out of high school. He is a line-drive hitter who knows how to work the count. Beckham has average power but is not a home run hitter, although he did lead the Cape Cod League in homers last summer. He knows how to steal bases thanks to good instincts but has only average speed. Some project him as a second baseman because he may become too big for shortstop where his arm is average and his range is above average. Think Aaron Hill. (posted by Marc Hulet)

When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...

by Chiburb on Jun 5, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

isn't BA a collection of phil rogers's?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

http://baseballanalysts.com/

When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...

by Chiburb on Jun 5, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are we forgetting that this truly is a crapshoot?

It ain’t the NBA or NFL, fer Chrissakes. #86 is apt to be just as serviceable.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Jun 5, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys are acting like the anti-christ was drafted

"Lemonade was a popular drink back in the day and it still is.."

Gangstarr

by Big Daddy Kool on Jun 5, 2008 1:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

dammit kenny

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

my day/mont/year is shot...

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 1:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

From Law:

He wasn’t supposed to be available at this spot, so the White Sox must be thrilled. He play second base, but there’s a good chance he stays at shortstop. He has tremendous baseball instincts. He’ll probably move pretty quickly through the system. He instantly becomes the best prospect in the organization the day he signs.

"Lemonade was a popular drink back in the day and it still is.."

Gangstarr

by Big Daddy Kool on Jun 5, 2008 2:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nationals have Christian Marrero and the Astros have nobody.

If Smoak slips past a team that takes a position player, then you canprobably infer that the clubs didn’t like him as well as the Internet experts. I’ll take the clubs’ opinion in that case.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

FWIW BP really likes the pick
Sheehan: I almost always make the “best player” argument at this point in the draft. When it comes to taking pure hitters, though, I think you need to bow to the reality of positional value.

Getting Gordon Beckham at #8 is a really nice pick for the White Sox.

Goldstein: Very good pick for them, and they are THRILLED that he’s still on the board. He could move very quickly through the system. Did somebody just compare him to Jeter? really? Comp I still like is Khalil Greene’s bat with Jed Lowrie’s glove.

by vince_ on Jun 5, 2008 2:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

khalil grene?

sad…

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by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Da teerz....

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Jun 5, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Greene is a league average hitter playing SS

That would be pretty good return for the Sox. Unfortunately for the Sox, if Smoak becomes 125-140 OPS+ fixture at first, it probably won’t matter what Beckham does…

by CWSKeith on Jun 5, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

khalil greene

has a career .738 OPS.

by Ryno on Jun 5, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's only 20 points better than Uribe's career OPS

I was hoping for better than “fine”with the 8th pick in the draft.

by Ryno on Jun 5, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's playing half his home games at PETCO

as such, OPS+ is a better measure, and he’s been league average for his career. That’s extremely valuable for a SS.

by CWSKeith on Jun 5, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hope away

then check out reality. league average is a pretty good result at this slot. and one might argue that this draft didn’t quite have as much “premium” top ten talent as other drafts – though it’s often folly to predict such things at the time of the draft. plenty of very good players to choose from between 5 and 15, though. perhaps harder to make a bad mistake in this draft.

by larry on Jun 5, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i knew someone would say that

i’m aware of the chances of success. what i was getting at was the idea of taking a guy who draws comparisons to a league-average major leaguer (beckham-greene) vs. a guy who draws comparisons to an above-average major leaguer (smoak-teixeira). seems like another “low floor” over “high ceiling” pick. but the sox’s system is so bereft of talent right now maybe they can’t afford to swing for the fences (no pun intended).

by Ryno on Jun 5, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i can provide you comparisons that are more flattering for beckham and less flattering for smoak.

selective reading and citing. here’s an easy one: i need a white SS to compare a white SS to… if he played second, they’d be comparing him to utley. these comparisons are a joke. a big one. it’s to help people who haven’t seen a player visualize that player and they’re often piss poor. look at the actual discussion of skills.

by larry on Jun 5, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

re

look at the actual discussion of skills.

yes

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how many years has he played in Petco?

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fair point

road ops the last three years is .828. i feel better now. if beckham can do that at short or second, i’ll be ecstatic.

by Ryno on Jun 5, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Beckham

Beckham at Shortstop: .397 / .505 / .781
Smoak at 1st Base: .383 / .505 / .757

why are people upset?

by shaftr on Jun 5, 2008 2:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That isn't necessarily the most thorough examination...

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i would note, however,

that in this case it’s probably fine considering the adjustment for both is pretty much the same.

by larry on Jun 5, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they are equivalent performances, but it isn't an especially predictive fact

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

can adjust for strength of schedule and park factors

gets you pretty far down the road. one will have more home run power, sure. i mean, duh, these guys aren’t going to OPS 1.300 or whatever.

by larry on Jun 5, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beckham had only one studly season in college...

his first season was decent but not great.

by SSH2005 on Jun 5, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he had three seasons at Georgia

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

track record?

swing?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 2:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you guys need to come of the ledge

I don’t see anything wrong with taking a middle infielder over a corner player, even if he projects perhaps moving to 2B.

Corner players are much, much easier to find and you have to take that into account.

by madvillian on Jun 5, 2008 2:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yes, mark texeira's are a dime a dozen

brad eldred is just as good

the trib had a big picture of him the other day

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol I was waiting for you to make this comment

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i follow this stuff pretty closely

but i’ve never seen any of them play. it’s not like the sox drafted castro or wallace or something. this isn’t even like last year when they “passed” on porcello. none of these players is clearly better than another.

by larry on Jun 5, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no kidding...but that can't stop me from developing premature crushes

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nothing wrong with that

but the reaction to the pick by some people on here – i skipped over most of it so i’ll leave names out of it – was like the sox had just taken lance broadway jr. over him. i like scarlett johansson a lot. but i’m not going to piss and moan if i end up with sienna miller or something.

by larry on Jun 5, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that's an apt comparison

Scarlett/Sienna are in your wheelhouse? What the hell are you doing slumming with us?

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Jun 5, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing

Don’t give your car keys to someone who just got his license yesterday.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Jun 5, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Defensive spectrum

means there are more guys like Texeira floating around than say (if we want to compare good players at different positions) Chase Utley. Not saying he’s going to be chase fucking utley, but come on.

by madvillian on Jun 5, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not?

GAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Jun 5, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

castro at 10

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by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 2:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wow what a shitty pick

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 2:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what must they be thinking?

i’ve got no clue. i’m no fan of drafting for need – take the best player. but that wasn’t the best player. and that wasn’t a need. baffling.

by larry on Jun 5, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aren't they neck-and-neck with us for the worst ML farm system?

They’re just cementing their claim.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Jun 5, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not anymore

(presuming signing). no early picks last year. and this year they may as well not of had one.

by larry on Jun 5, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we emptied ours toward an end

the Astros may be one of the worst run teams in MLB

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Becks

‘Plays the game the right way.’ Dis keed sounds good.

What would Kittle do??

by thecip on Jun 5, 2008 2:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

did he punt for the dogs?

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by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

*Dawgs

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah I didn't feel too good after they kept throwing around "grinder" synonyms...

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's a white SS

that’s what happens.

by larry on Jun 5, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any good white SS's

in the majors right now?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jun 5, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Greene

And 1/2 of one in NY.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Jun 5, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

forgot about him

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jun 5, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, he is out for a long time (injured)

so he’s easy to forget.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Jun 5, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cheat, I don't see this thread on the front page

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

it vanished for me too

I had to go to Archives

Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!

by Nordhagen on Jun 5, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ranger got smoaked

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by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 2:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

weird pick for the A's?

a definite second baseman?

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 2:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ja ich weiss

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beck is NOT a bad pick at all:

Just before the Sox write him off as a bust, they can trade him for some other team’s 1st round bust. That seems to work out ok.

Clearly, that was sarcasm. I think the pick is fine. They know a hell of a lot more than I do.

When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...

by Chiburb on Jun 5, 2008 2:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I like it a lot more after seeing Castro and Weeks get jumped on early...

and that the Sox didn’t take Wallace and he went to the Cardinals at #13.

by SSH2005 on Jun 5, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no. if he doesn't hit it's a bad pick.

where he plays in the middle infield isn’t all that relevant.

by larry on Jun 5, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

seriously, how did this one get started?

and why do people keep parotting it? a move from the second most difficult position to the third most difficult and a guy is done? who is the idiot who started this? this thinking applies to CFs who can’t stick there. or to 3Bs who can’t stick there and, especially, can’t play the outfield. not a SS.

by larry on Jun 5, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Done" is going too far...

but a move to 2B certainly detracts from his value, but that’s stating the obvious (I’ll let you beat me over the skull for that one). You’re certainly correct when you made the statement about his bat—if he hits like the Sox think he will, it won’t matter if he’s at 2B or SS, he’ll be well above average in either case.

by CWSKeith on Jun 5, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes. but it does not make him a "bad" pick

i keep reading this eventuality like it’s some horrible thing. it’s not. the detraction from his value is rather minimal. i’m not even sure it bears much mention. SS to 2B would be a rather whatever move in my book.

by larry on Jun 5, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"best hair"

I don’t know what the hell just happened.

by CWSKeith on Jun 5, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have a perfect example of the flexibility of SS/2B on or roster at present -

A-Ram/Uribe. Jeez. (Forget about the bat.) I used to be a SS and shifted to 2B all the time – no biggie.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Jun 5, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can certainly never have enough 2Bmen...

When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...

by Chiburb on Jun 5, 2008 2:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

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by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any guesses as to where Beckham goes when he signs?

Does he start with Kanny, or is he a ‘fast-track’ guy who they’ll push to Winston Salem?

by CWSKeith on Jun 5, 2008 2:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My guess is into the booth with Hawk and DJ...

That’ll make the minors and bus rides seem like a vacation.

When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...

by Chiburb on Jun 5, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that will actually be his first stop

after throwing out the first pitch, of course.

by larry on Jun 5, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

W-S is my guess...he had 3 years in the best conference in college baseball

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Wiz

just because your pissed, don’t go removing shit from the front page

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jun 5, 2008 2:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't remove anything

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So if the Sox think Beckham's a shortstop, are there any conclusions to drawabout what they

think of Lexi?

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Jun 5, 2008 3:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What if they think he's a 2B?

Machts nichts, right?

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Jun 5, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Twinks lost

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jun 5, 2008 3:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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