10, 11, 12...
by The Cheat on Jun 9, 2008 12:26 AM CDT
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When the White Sox left Tampa Bay losers of their last 3, scoring a total of 4 runs, they had a half game lead in the division, and owned the 9th ranked offense (by Runs Scored) in the AL.
Ozzie went on a little rant, and the Sox have responded with a little run. They now own a 5.5 game lead on the division and sit as the 3rd highest scoring offense in the AL.
It's almost as if Ozzie knows what he's doing.
Bullet Pointing the Offensive Breakout
- The 15 hits Sunday gave Chicago at least 15 in three straight games for the first time since July 23-24, 1932, against Cleveland. -- Hat Tip WU
- The Sox have had 10 hits in each of their last 7 games. It's their first such streak since 2006, which is the only other such streak in the last 10 years.
- The Sox record for most consecutive 10 hit games (in the easily searchable retrosheet era) is 13 in... wait for it... 1997, not exactly the team you turn to for White Sox offensive records.
It wasn't too big of a leap of faith to believe the offense would come out of its funk eventually, but I don't think anyone expected it to happen like this. I think Q!s awesome is finally rubbing off on some guys.
One game down, seven more to go to make me a believer. Heck, if the offense can be half as good as it's been the last 3 days, I'll drive the bandwagon. Though I'm probably too late for that. Maybe I can take tickets, check baggage?
What's gotten into Gavin Floyd?
There were high hopes among many of us here for Gavin Floyd based on his strong final six starts of last season, during which he was able to pound the strikezone and miss a few bats. But over this seasons first 9 starts, despite the positive results on the scoreboard, Floyd struggled to both miss bats and avoid allowing the free pass. In fact, he allowed more walks than strikeouts. This led many a fantasy expert to proclaim "sell high."
Over the last three games, however, we've seen a return to the late-'07 Floyd. In 21 innings pitched, Floyd struck out 20, including a career high 9 Sunday, and walked just one batter. I was hoping to see Floyd post some better peripherals, but these last three games have been other worldly.
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It feels really good to have done this to the Twins
I’ve been reminding SSH and all others who dared praise the Twins that they just aren’t a good team, but when was the last time we blew the doors off this team in such a fashion? Considering the 15 hit streak, it may well have been the biggest 3 game beating we’ve ever put on the damnable Piranhas. +23 run differential in 3 games? Tough to beat that.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on Jun 9, 2008 1:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
absolutely
the Twins happen to be the team I hate the most (non-Cubs division). I lived in Mpls for 5 yrs during their early 2000’s resurgence.
Been watching the FSN North feed with the Twins announcers this weekend. The moaning and groaning is like hearing angels sing…
We need a sweep now.
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on Jun 9, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I posted this in the previous thread...
but I wouldn’t mind seeing Ozzie break out the old Sunday lineup for tomorrow’s day game. The Sox are facing a lefty in Perkins who can’t get righties out at all. Here’s my lineup…
1B Swisher
2B Ramirez
LF Quentin
DH Konerko
RF Dye
3B Crede
CF Anderson
C Hall
SS Uribe
by SSH2005 on Jun 9, 2008 1:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it would be cool to see a 1b leading off
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on Jun 9, 2008 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It nowwill not happen.
Thanks, stan. Never eff with a streak.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jun 9, 2008 6:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stanch is too clever..
He probably has tickets to today’s game and wanted to see the regulars.
by Grinder in Training on Jun 9, 2008 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it ain't broke
well you all know where I’m going with this
by 815Sox on Jun 9, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And just so we all see how good the pitching has been
THT’s Individual Pitcher Stats
Only Floyd, Wassermann, Loaiza and The Arsonist have an xFIP above 5 (the stats are as of 6.7.08) and Buehrle comes in at 4.18. Everyone else is below 4. That’s fucking outstanding.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on Jun 9, 2008 1:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Floyd is down
To 4.88. His overall ERA will surely rise but I don’t know if we can say it will be this hugh ballon later this year. Every season there are just “those” pitchers. His periph stats are headed in the right direction but more importantly his mental make up seems light years ahead from when he arrived. He has talent yes and Ozzie does well with pitchers yes, but I think the unsung heroes are the vet pitchers he has been around the last 2 years. You obviously can’t measure such a thing but it has to help seeing other starters for 2 years put in a full days work and having a manager and pitching coach “expect” it.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Jun 9, 2008 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
When you get to watch guys like Buehrle and Javy who will have a big inning but then pitch 5 more scoreless innings afterwards it has to help. Those are big time pitchers, and as a young guy with confidence issues, watching them deal with adversity has probably been a big plus.
by Grinder in Training on Jun 9, 2008 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's due to get thwacked pretty soon
His line drive rate is miniscule. Pretty easy to keep from getting bombed if you never give up the most dangerous batted ball type.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on Jun 9, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty hard to hit line drives
when the ball moves like his does. He’s going to get hit harder, but at the same time I wouldn’t be surprised to see that line drive rate stay relatively low.
by Grinder in Training on Jun 9, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Relatively low ≠ 11%
Even if that’s a skill he possesses (and I’m not sure there is a skill in suppressing line drives), it’s not going to be that low. 15% is very low as it is.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on Jun 9, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isnt that a positive?
Line drives = squaring contact doesnt it? Please correct if Im wrong there. I agree his FIP certainly says a higher ERA. My point was the other things makes me believe its less likely we see the hugh rise and meltdown many thought and expected.
He give up some homers. FB& to homer ratio unsubstainable, but I suspect he’ll limit the 3 run bombs.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Jun 9, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll ------ FB/HR %
Man I wish we could edit sometimes.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Jun 9, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't keep it that low. He's due to regress.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on Jun 9, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
blown away......
the whole team has been surprising as of late…. but A. Ramirez…........ my god…. if he isn’t doing it with bat, then it’s with his glove…... i never thought he would be this good this soon…. and we have him for 3 more years after this. At like what….. 1.25 mill per year…..
great signing
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
by ElDiablo on Jun 9, 2008 2:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Shades of the Iguchi signing...
but this one looks even better. Ramirez is younger, cheaper, and better than Iguchi.
by SSH2005 on Jun 9, 2008 2:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And prouder.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jun 9, 2008 6:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and leaner
Not that Iguchi was fat.
Both feet on the bandwagon.
by vince_ on Jun 9, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alexei is going to come back to Earth
And he’s seriously in orbit right now. It’ll be interesting to see what he actually can do over a full season.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on Jun 9, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta be the safest prediction, there, colin.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jun 9, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that wasn't exactly what i was getting at
i’m just really interested to see what he can do.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on Jun 9, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If someone gets a chance....
can you post or link a 2009 Sox roster matrix for me? Thanks….
by stanchar on Jun 9, 2008 6:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
here
http://www.southsidesox.com/mlb/teams/CWS/roster
http://www.scoreboard.msnbc.com/msnbc/main.asp?frames=0&sport=mlb&cat=TRost&day=&team=4&
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/rosters/teams/white_sox.html
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jun 9, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quote from Jon Danks on his brothers signing
’’We thought he’d go higher up, but it couldn’t have worked out any better coming here to the White Sox,’’ John Danks said. ’’He’s very good. The way I look at it, it’s a start for the White Sox and it’s up to him to produce.’‘
It looks like he’s going to sign, which would make the draft look pretty impressive considering the picks they had. Kenny’s on a pedestal right now. GO SOX!
by Seymizzle on Jun 9, 2008 7:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Twins are taking a beating
I hope it continues today. Their picking, picking, picking attack has stalled with the great Sox pitching they have seen. It does my heart good to see Crede, Swisher, Konerko start producing well along with Quentin , AJ and Dye. Cabrera is fielding marvelously to go along with his improved hitting. BUT Alexi is wonderful, it is fun to see a young player get comfortable and take-off in both fielding, batting and running. I owe KW an apology for doubting his acquisitions Let’s not let this one get away and get to Detroit feeling good about ourselves.
by floridajim on Jun 9, 2008 8:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow! You must have borrowed JRE's Prozac...
Most impressive!
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jun 9, 2008 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Winning cures everything
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jun 9, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Including your sig!
Though I’m still with you:
Cautiously optimistic, with the emphasis on caution.
All I wanted was an enjoyable season, everything else would be gravy.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jun 9, 2008 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Prepare for the gravy (IF we continue to have health).
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jun 9, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sox Surge
Great week for the Sox! They are clicking on all cylinders right now. I’m very proud of them. I don’t think they can play this great all of the time but I hope that they will level off to some decent consistency for the rest of the year. Good pitching, timely hitting, and defense will add up to a great year. Keep it up guys!
by Alan Snipes on Jun 9, 2008 9:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of cliches...
You know the old adage of play .500 on the road, and .666 at home? Before yesterday’s game that’s EXACTLY what the Sox had done. Using back-of-the-napkin math, I think that equals a 93 win season.
Though it wouldn’t hurt to pad some of those numbers…
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jun 9, 2008 9:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good stat
How about the one where you play .500 against the winning teams and .667 (don’t like that .666, Chi – too “witchy”, as Charlie Manson might say) agaisnt the scrubs (not the Scrubs – we have to be 1.000 against them)? Are we close to that?
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jun 9, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funniest sign I ever saw was on a road trip:
Entering a small town in Minnesota:
Sacred Heart
Population 666
This was in ‘88. They’re down to 549 as of 2000.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jun 9, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just gotta say
I love your Avatar. Its the background on my computer now
by 815Sox on Jun 9, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The credit is due here:
http://www.sbnation.com/users/thecip
I just stole it (with permission).
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jun 9, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice stat
The Cubs are miserable on the road… will this ultimately be the demise of our beloved cubbies?
"I would rather have a battalion of German soldiers in front of me than a platoon of French soldiers behind me."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 9, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so
The ratio of cubs to sox fans in Rockford is worse then Chicago. Now that they are playing good, I can’t automatically reply to shit talking with “but they are fucking terrible, I don’t care how the old the stadium is”
by 815Sox on Jun 9, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
in my experience
living in the city for the last 5 years, the ratio of cubs to sox fans is pretty close to 50/50. it’s the northwest burbs, where i grew up, where it’s like 10:1 cub fans.
by Ryno on Jun 9, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, it's awful
Grew up (and still call it home) in the NW burbs and the sheer number of Cubs’ “fans” is what turned me into a Cubs hater. At first I was indifferent to the Cubs, but I got tired off knowledgeless, bandwagon (in the sense that it’s the cool team, not even the good team) jumpers berating me with made up reasons of why the Sox suck.,,
Of course it was made infinitely easier after ‘05, cuz all I had to say was, “and the last time the Cubs won the World Series was…?” which would shut up the true fans and baffle the fake ones
Surprisingly though my group of guy friends were like 70% White Sox fans
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Jun 9, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Careful
You know I’ve never considered Rockford a “suburb” of Chicago. We are our own city (with many problems, but its not as bad as I often hear people think it is)..
anyways I recently asked a bartender to flip on a sox game to check the score (they were playing the cubs) and some douche in a cubs visor asks me what my problem was….
I said “what?”
He said “We are North Siders”... I laughed and said “you wish we were”
by 815Sox on Jun 9, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or South Siders
for the Brewers – take your pick.
I remember Rockfish in 1985, with unemployment at 8.5%, iirc.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jun 9, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why Q! has cooled off just a bit...
He recently allowed all the other players to “chest bump” him, thus giving each of them a small dose of his god-like powers…which is plenty for mortals. My sources tell me Alexi actually fainted momentarily from the initial “surge.” Alas, by selflessly giving away some of his power, his own power has been depleted…temporarily, of course.
Oh, and he also told them all to completely ignore Greg Walker, no matter what. After all, it seems to be working for him.
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
by tailgater on Jun 9, 2008 9:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
God-like powers and selfless, also.
A rare individual.
Pitching, defense, health and 10 or more runs a game
by ballyb on Jun 9, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My guess is he started fooling around in his Fortress of Solitude
Superman 2 style.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on Jun 9, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After all the moaning
from the MSM about Ozzie it’s been awfully nice to see the team come out and beat the crap out of some teams for the last week. Maybe next time they won’t be so hair trigger with their condemnation.
Optimist
by Peder on Jun 9, 2008 10:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone remember in 2000 when the Sox
swept the Yankees in Yankee Stadium with some crazy scoring, including a 17-4 win over El Duque (back when El Duque was EL DUQUE, and the Yankees were THE YANKEES), came home to play Cleveland to a full house, got a standing ovation before the game (still one of my favorite non-2005 Sox memories), and proceeded to whip up on the Indians 6-1 (after having swept them at the Jake right before seeping the Yankees) to complete an 8-game win streak.
This kind of feels like that run, no?
by The Actual El Guapo on Jun 9, 2008 10:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, not really.
I mean there’s a difference between the Twins/Royals and Yanks/Indians, right?
Though I agree that this run feels great.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jun 9, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Twins are in 2nd place
and were only a couple games back when the series started, this was about as big as a series in early June can get.
by Grinder in Training on Jun 9, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guapo...
I was also contemplating that series yesterday and how cool it was to put an ass-whipping on those 2 teams…back when the Indians were the Indians and the Yanks the Yanks.
The difference between 2000 and 2008 is (so far) better pitching. And if you got pitching you got a good chance.
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
by tailgater on Jun 9, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, and maybe I misread AEG's point.
I just don’t think winning against inferior teams feels the same as sweeping superior teams.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jun 9, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you Chi,
I certainly would not equate beating the crap out of the 2008 Twins and Royals with the 2000 Indians and Yankees in terms of measuing the impressiveness of the achievement.
It’s more the feeling that the team absolutely cannot lose that I was getting at. Even in 2005 it seemed like the wins were mostly close and hard-fought, so there was rarely the same sense of invincibility.
And I’m also not saying this team (or the 2000 team for that matter) is better than 2005—just thought it was an interesting comparison.
by The Actual El Guapo on Jun 9, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you really the Actual El Guapo? He of 257 major league games?
Or the bad guy from 3 Amigos?
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jun 9, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember that stretch
Swept the Indians, swept the Yankees, then swept the Indians again. They couldn’t even give that division away after playing so mediocre after the All-Star game.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 9, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In a way, each of us has an El Guapo to face. For some, shyness might be their El Guapo. For others, a lack of education might be their El Guapo. For us, El Guapo is a big, dangerous man who wants to kill us.
But as sure as my name is Lucky Day, the people of Santa Poco can conquer their own personal El Guapo, who also happens to be the actual El Guapo!
by ReservoirDog on Jun 9, 2008 12:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
so he's not Rich Garces? Is that what you're saying?
all these culteral references make me confused…
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jun 9, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Danks brothers switch agents
By Mark Gonzales, 2:30 p.m.http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2008/06/danks-brothers.htmlJohn and Jordan Danks have switched representatives, two sources confirmed.
The elder Danks declined to confirm before Monday’s game, but a source said over the weekend that the Danks family elected to have another family adviser represent Jordan Danks, the Sox’s seventh-round pick in last week’s amateur draft.
John and Jordan Danks were previously represented by Scott Boras. Their new representative is Jeff Berry, the agent for Mark Buehrle and Josh Fields. John switched agents around the time Jordan was drafted Friday.
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jun 9, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
1959 A Magical Year
I have been a diehard Sox fan for 65 years and saw a Sox World series in 1959, we lost but I thought more would come, not to be.
My youth was spent watching good Sox teams get to August only to have the Yankees sweep them in August and end another year.
2005 was wonderful! I was in Ireland the first month and had no information upon getting to america I grabbed a newspaper and saw the Sox in first place, WOW!
Like all of you I struggled through the August/September heat as the lead diminished but we won . I swore I would never question Ozzie, Kenny or Reinsdorf again, I have failed. I am so happy for all of us and pray it continues.
by floridajim on Jun 10, 2008 9:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We LOST in 1959?
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
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