Konerko, Sox Let One Slip Away
by The Cheat on Jul 10, 2008 11:07 PM CDT
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The tone was set for a pitchers duel early Thursday night when it became clear that home plate umpire Bill Hohn had a rather wide strike zone. Mark Buehrle and Zach Greinke took full advantage, combining for 16 strikeouts against just one walk and one run in the first 7 innings.
Jermaine Dye homered -- homered doesn't seem descriptive enough for a ball that cleared the fountains in the left field gap -- with none of those distracting baserunners in his line of sight to mark the game's only real action in the first two hours.
Things got interesting once again in the 8th inning, only this time it was the Royals staging a bizarre comeback. After giving up a lead-off single to John Buck, Buehrle induced what looked to be a routine 6-3 double play ball off the bat of David DeJesus. The Sox made the play look anything but routine, and the game turned on their failed attempt.
Buehrle reached out and got a glove on the ball, forcing Orlando Cabrera to change directions to make the initial grab, and necessitating a flip to Alexei Ramirez to turn the DP successfully. Paul Konerko was unable to handle the throw from Ramirez, the ball tricking out of his glove as DeJesus crossed first. Ramirez' throw was a bit wide at first, but not wide enough to place most of the blame on him for a poor throw, especially after replays showed a rather pathetic stretch from Konerko and his foot on the middle of the bag.
One pitch later, Mike Aviles, who is a total douchenozzle, BTW, doubled into the left field corner to tie the game. An out later, Octavio Dotel gave up a deep flyball double to Jose Guillen to put the Royals on top for good.
And then things got really crazy.
Mark Teahen realized he had gone a total of two games without homering against the White Sox, so he decided to further exploit and embarrass the Sox defense by hitting an inside the park home run, or as Konerko calls it, a stand-up double. Teahen was significantly aided by Ramirez falling asleep after receiving the relay throw. In Ramirez' defense, as the smartest player in baseball, he was probably calculating Boone Logan's FIP after the play.
Konerko's poor play, and the events that followed, should give considerable ammunition to the talk radio folk who are always looking to get rid of Konerko and/or Jim Thome. As long as Konerko isn't hitting, it's tough to argue that the Sox aren't a better club with the improved defensive alignment of an Anderson/Wise CF and Swisher at 1B. But the time to make a change isn't here yet. To quote mgl:
I am so sick of EVERYONE equating a player’s 3 month (or 6 month, or one month, or one year) performance with their "true talent" that I can’t stand it anymore.
Where do they think that we get our projection algorithms from? From real life! When REAL LIVE PLAYERS who are 33 years old hit .780 in their careers and then .577 in 3 months, they hit .740 (or whatever the number is) from then on in! We don’t just make these projections up. They are based on what players actually do, given their histories.
Konerko may be hitting .213/.319/.360, but he entered the season with a PECOTA projection of .264/.354/.483, and as mgl states, that projection hasn't changed much. Konerko's revised projection for the rest of the season is probably something like .255/.345/.470, which would figure to outpace the theoretical production of his replacements by enough to ignore the defensive downgrade.
There may come a point when it's time to remove Konerko from the lineup altogether, but it's not tonight, no matter how much it might feel like the right decision this very second.
*****
BTW, here's Jim's opinion: SoxMachine: To the official scorer's phone!
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Douchenozzle - genius!
You’ve outdone yourself again, Cheat!
And because of WU-like typing abilities, I also stumbled upon Douchnoozle, which, though not quite as excellent, sounds good as well.
Now that's why I come here.....
reasoned logical analysis. Of course we still need to take some lipitor.
I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.
That was freaking painful to watch after Buehrle pitched so well...
Konerko catches that easy DP ball and the Sox probably win.
yeah poor burls...
can we get colin to start sending BUO to the clubhouse before games?
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
yea poor burls.....
can we get colin to start sending BUO to the clubhouse before games?
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
well i'm a dumbass
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
The Sox need to destroy Luis Mendoza tomorrow...
He has been absolutely terrible in the majors thus far.
http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=434669
let's hope it's not de la rosa all over again
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
There will be no excuses if the Sox don't hit tomorrow...
This Mendoza guy is terrible and there’s probably AAA teams that wouldn’t want him on their roster.
Did you actually look at his AAA line this year?
He can get groundballs apparently, though his K rates have never been anything special. His walk rates have varied. If he throws strikes and gets groundballs, that isn’t terrible.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
If this guy was in the Sox minors, we would be praying that he never sees the majors...
A career 1.40 WHIP with a career 4.68 K/9 in the minors? C’mon, the guy sucks.
Do you also sell snake oil?
De La Rosa
Is third in MLB in K/9 over the last month and a half
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
But ---
You have to look at his career line, not just the last 1.5 or 3 months! Were do you think these algorithms come from. (Sorry couldn’t help myself)
Your boy Cy De La Rosa is being replaced by Kip Wells in the Rockies' rotation...
What a stud.
Jorge De La Rosa is expected to be pulled from the Rockies rotation after the All-Star break.
After getting shelled on Thursday, De La Rosa is averaging fewer than five innings a start and is currently sporting a 7.26 ERA. He’ll likely be replaced by Kip Wells, who is scheduled to make rehab starts on Friday and Wednesday, putting him in line to start Colorado’s fifth game after the break. Wells is 0-2 with a 7.71 ERA in his first three rehab starts.Source: Rocky Mountain News
Again, you don't seem to comprehend what I actually think of him
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
some compelling stuff about mark teahen over at royals review
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
I like how we're referred to as the "Evil White Sox"
Somehow I doubt we’ll ever return the favor – “Evil Kansas City Royals” is about as scary as “Demonic Puppy”
Coffee is for closers.
Yeah doesn't strike much fear into the heart
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 11, 2008 1:32 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahaha!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
OT - Toonder turns 30
As someone who passed the milestone in the ‘80’s, I needed to research what if felt like in order to give any sage advice. These 2 quotes sum up the confusion and ambivalence (almost like Alice’s “I’m 18” – 30 is the new 18, BTW, I firmly believe):
Everything I know I learned after I was 30 – Georges Clemenceau
A man thirty years old, I said to myself, should have his field of life all ploughed, and his planting well done; for after that it is summer time.- Lew Wallace
I’m a boy, and I’m a man, indeed. Happy birthday, fellow Cancerian, you OPOS.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
my 30s have been way better
than my 20s, much more fun
regards
Sox fan from England, marching on together
When I hit thirty
1. I somehow got married
2. My wife somehow got pregnant
3. My wife told me she was a cub fan (grounds for divorce, but too harsh just yet considering she was pregnant when she told me)
4. I somehow ended up with only a smal part of 1 closet for all my stuff when we have 4 closets.
5. My truck became (our truck).
6. I woke up with aches and pains I never had before.
7. I piss longer and more often
8. I have one drawer in two bathrooms combined for my stuff
9. I began to look like that “old guy” at the bars and on the L train going to work.
10. I get buzzed on only a few drinks now when before it took a twelve pack, 3 shots and a whiskey.
11. Positive (I am slightly more intelligent, slightly)
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 11, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
At least my wife isn't a Cubs fan
The rest sounds the same + I can no longer eat a supersized McD meal – a happy meal is adequate these days (and more than enough to add to my waist size)
Positive – My son is a Sox fan and likes going to the games with me (at least for a few more years)
I hear ya
A Big Mac will tear me up for days!
My daughter is due any day now and she will first see me, then me with a Sox hat on.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 11, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions
I think a lot of this stuff is a state of mind
Bobby my old pal. All my mates who are married have big pot bellies and look like shit and money worries and all that kind of thing, and I’m here 36 yrs old with a 22 yr old bird.
Sox fan from England, marching on together
keeping fit is very important
I cycle to work and do a bit of treadmill interval training, not to a massive degree or anything, just to keep fit. Although i guess for people with familes and that, it becomes harder to find the time for that sort of thing
Sox fan from England, marching on together
I go to the gym
5-days a week! But I ache a lot more now then when I was younger. I start a new routine about every month to shock my muscles and for about a week my body is shot! I run about 10 miles a week as well.
I also live in an old building, 4th floor, no elevator. I get to carry everything up four flights every day…that helps the legs!
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 11, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
When I was 29
I dated a 20 year old,....that was actually when I realized I was getting old. They party all night, every night…want to do something constantly – which wasn’t always a bad thing! But, it wears on you…
Your girl has to have the right mindset at 22, if you are 14 years older…then you’re okay.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 11, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
most English Girls
are very loyal to their men, and are prepared to accept a lot. I once went out with a US girl called tracy from pittsburgh and it was way too much for me, far too demanding of me.
(not that I’m saying they are all like that)
Sox fan from England, marching on together
Most Tracy's are!
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 11, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Does your english
girl have good teeth? Most english do not.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 11, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Why?
I prefer they remove their teeth first. But that’s me.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 11, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
mmm...toothless hookers.
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 11, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
that's the name of our drunk bowling team...the tender loins ;-)
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 11, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't get all this teeth
business, it may have applied 20 years ago not anymore, we have dentists want to make people have a nice smile
Sox fan from England, marching on together
You have dentists?!?!?!!?!
The sun still refuses to set on England.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 11, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you for clarifying the "women" part.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 11, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
avoiding prison does that.
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
by larry on Jul 11, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 11, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Well you can finally get girls in their 20's
when you are in your 30’s. Fish inside a barrell.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 11, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
happy birthday to you, you o(lder)pos.
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 11, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
i've had such an amazing run in my 20s it's hard to imagine it getting much better, but knowing me i'm sure it will.
fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!
i'm sure that would be funny if i was your age.
fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!
then perhaps i was wrong.
you pos.
fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!
yeesh. sounds like someone has been polling you!
fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!
My job has been polling me lately, quite frankly
but I assume it isn’t quite as bad as your position (pun intended).
sometimes i poll the market. sometimes the market polls me.
fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!
by MarketMaker on Jul 11, 2008 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
ah, wrigley.
it’s been over four years since i visited the actual building. my favorite sox pitcher eva esteban loaiza had a decidedly meh outing in a losing effort. and timo perez was in the leadoff position. duty demands that i return today. wish me luck, folks. signing off…
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
Good luck with that one..
Hope you brought your eag plugs and a cushion to sit on.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 11, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Good luck with that
watch out for the rats and the urine puddles.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 11, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Enjoy the game!
and the urinal smell the stadium provides, gratis!
Try not to get shot leaving the game.
Also
don’t walk east on Addison to Halsted…you might get raped.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 11, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Finished the Wire
good cap to the best show ever on television
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
did you buy the dvds, netflix, or something else?
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 11, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
ok, obviously something else, at least with regard to season 5 as i see it isn't released yet on dvd.
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 11, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
well, since you (tor)rented it, it's all legal and good to go.
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 11, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
considering the thing isn't available for purchase or to be watched on tv
i don’t think i’m killing HBO’s revenue here. plus, I’ve already bought four seasons of the show and will buy the fifth. i think that’s good faith.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
Late-inning defense
I agree that it’s overreacting to move PK out of the lineup for the reason cited, but last night’s result makes you wonder what the eighth inning would have looked like if Swisher would have been moved to first and BA moved to center.
All hindsight, of course, and with a one-run lead Oz may have wanted to keep Konerko’s bat, but I would be curious how some of those deep flies would have played out, never mind the 6-4-3.
by tommyjoepeters on Jul 11, 2008 12:56 PM CDT reply actions
i said the same thing last night
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
my guess the reason for the lack of change was that paulie was coming up in the order
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
If PK had gotten on
I’m about 95% sure Oz would have done as in the prev game – either Wise or BA would have come in the run and play with Swish moving to first.
I guess the question is how long does this team wait before making that type of change? How long before you say this is no longer a slump. We’ve seen it now at the end of ‘06, most of ‘07 and now ‘08. Thome has started to show signs of getting on track, not to mention he did not have this type of prolonged slump the last 2 years – PK has been injured recently, so some slack must be given, but at the same time it must be weighed against what it potentially may cost the team if signs of improvement aren’t seen.
i don't think he's done.
i watched him last night and he looked like he was seeing it better, getting the ball farther back in his stance and putting decent wood on it. he’s not yet driving the ball authoritatively, but he’s not being hindered by injury. it’s paul konerko we’re talking about. the dude knows how to hit.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
he was turning it around as i saw it right before he got injured
picked him up in fantasy right before he went down because i liked what i saw.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
Hitman Paulie
Absolutely. The gist of Cheat’s piece here sez that. PK is a hitter.
I’m more into the defensive side. Having grown up with Landis then Berry, Looie and Nellie, where hits were cause for celebration, can’t help that. That’s why every BA at bat has drama. If he can learn to hit at least well enough to take the field! I like the shallow-positioning that he and DW favor.
Not that Paulie’s bad at first, but Swisher shows a level of defense that is fun to watch.
by tommyjoepeters on Jul 11, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Jesus, you are an old fuck
Where have you been hiding? 1959? Dead-ball era! You can join the club! bally, Chiburb. Florida jim (may he rest in peace), peder, me, and now you, all over 50 (some – not me, dammit – over 55).
Let’s trade Flowmax stories. Or peder can regale us with his Depends tales – oh, the things to look forward to!
;)
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
when did this site turn into a fucking aarp meeting?
fuck. i’m surrounded by old pos’s. no wonder it smelled like old spice around here.
fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!
by MarketMaker on Jul 11, 2008 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
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“In honor of the All-Star Game, the Play Index is free through July 19th. Kick the tires a bit (maybe you’ll want to subscribe) and enjoy.”
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
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WIN: One lucky winner will win the chance to announce the White Sox line-up during an inning at an upcoming White Sox game! The winner will also receive four tickets and a parking pass to the game, $100 in ESPN Zone gift certificates and $100 in ESPN Zone game cards.
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
But if they are only 13 years old
How will they know be able to make comparisons to Yaz and Freddie Lynn?
This contest should be open to all aged and cranky men
This site alone would supply thousands of participants. Classic lines from SSH, larry, and all your favorites at the next Sox game!
SSH: “Yes Hawk the Sox are up 8-0, but let’s talk about the Twins.”
winningugly: “Say Hawk, do you like gladiator movies you crusty POS?”
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 11, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
One lucky winner will win the chance to announce the White Sox line-up during an inning at an upcoming White Sox game!
Let’s see… do we know anyone who likes to suggest lineups that would optimize the Sox’ chances for success on any particular evening? Hmm. Think hard. Someone who scans waiver wires so the GM doesn’t have to? Hmm.
If you know of someone like that, please let him know of this golden opportunity.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
The man
that is fighting off rats at Wrigley Field right now?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 11, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
SHH2005? ;)
since he’s not around, it’s open season on larry. HA! (that was all the material I had anyways)
close enough for colin.
//he’ll never know the difference.
fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!
by MarketMaker on Jul 11, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I SAW IT RIGHT AWAY THIS TIME
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
Cowley continues to amaze me
on his first half “Shout Outs” What a douche.
BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT: Shortstop Orlando Cabrera. Not his play, but the man.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
and that wasn't just a Twit Twitter, that was in print.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
Funny that the Sox
beat reporter for the Sun-Times basically called out OC in print. Sooner or later, “Mr. Cool” is going to get his ass whooped.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 11, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
BIGGEST FUCKBAG: Joe Cowley. Not the man, Not the writing....oh wait...
FUCK YOU COWLEY!!!!!
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
you have to be kidding me
i really hate the S-T.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
Cowley on OC
When the whole did-you-hear-what-Orlando-did-in-Toronto thing was working itself out, I remember somebody here got an e-mail response from Cowley something like “you don’t know the half of how bad Cabrera is”.
Guess Cabrera doesn’t help Cowley much on his beat. Maybe he thinks all Sun-Times guys look the same.
by tommyjoepeters on Jul 11, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Mariners Acquire Craig Wilson
The Mariners acquired Craig Wilson today from the Pirates for a player to be named later.http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/07/mariners-acquir.html
what was kenny doing? damn…
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Anybody have the S-T's Sports Editor's email off hand so I don't have to
check their site for it? I’d rather not give them hits in order to bitch at this guy. Seems counterproductive.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
i wish i did
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
Brett Favre Asks For Release From Packers, Wants To Play Elsewhere
http://deadspin.com/5024418/brett-favre-asks-for-release-from-packers-wants-to-play-elsewhere
espn to go apeshit…
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
somewhere john madden is crying
brett favre without the packers is like the turducken without the turkey…
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
I heard the Bears
called him and told him to stay retired.
Chicago Bear for a season?
Not like he’d be blocking anyone.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
Charles Barkley Reluctantly Puts Me In His Fave Five
http://deadspin.com/5024132/charles-barkley-reluctantly-puts-me-in-his-fave-five
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
As probably the only resident of Chicago who is a causal follower of the NFL
I hope to God he signs with the Bears so everyone will call the radio stations like it’s the Rapture, but secretly buy Favre jerseys and celebrate at least 2 years without Grossman.
But, still, Favre is a giant assbag for screwing the Packers like this. Just like when MJ retired, all those Packers fans are going to lament how they could have had 1 more year with their guy had he just decided to not go through this whole charade.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 11, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I am also a casual follower
i don’t really like football that much past the technical aspects of the game. birthright is the only thing that really gets me into college football.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
how did he screw the packers?
the last time he was thinking about retirement, they begged him not to so mccarthy would have a chance with a full deck. they wanted him to make an early decision, so he did knowing that it would actually be better for the team if he quit early and wanted to come back rather than said he was coming back only to want to quit when it was go time.
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 11, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I got annoyed with his annual song and dance "will he or won't he" crapola
If his desire was so strong to come back, he never should have held that stupid press conference and cried like a baby. It’s clear the Packers are ready to move on. You don’t want your team handicapped by this larger than life character that the media adores, but clearly just isn’t that great anymore. Sure, he had a monster season last year, but he again fucked up in the playoffs, something that’s been a recurring trend for him since like 2001. GB fans are still so attached to him they’re going to hate management for not bringing him back for one more year, and if he did come back, Aaron Rodgers, who could be there for the next 15 years if everything went well, could very well leave as a FA. He put them in a no-win situation, and it could have been avoided had he just bided his time and made his decision with a clear head after the draft.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 11, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you read your last sentence?
WTF school did you graduate from? Yeah, I’ve had my birthday wine, but you obviously have had your birthday peyote.
If you are like this at 2:50 PM your time, I shudder to think what you are going to be like at 10.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
so this is the old man's birth date, huh?
that must have been exciting having the hamilton-burr duel on your 15th birthday.
fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!
by MarketMaker on Jul 11, 2008 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
JD had no chance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg-bUJeZp_Y
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
I hate that douchnozzle dicky v.agina face
My admiration for the Rays just got knocked down a peg.
FWIW, the cowbell kid knocked them down a peg as well.
oh no, you dissed the rays
here comes patrick…
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
that motherfucker is omnipresent wherever the rays are talked about.
fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!
Dickie is their demographic -
enlarged prostate, bald, 80 years old. How can you diss him? Besides, Longoria deserves it. Crede does not. JD had to be sacrificed. It’s Nature’s Way.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
from what i hear, patrick's coming
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
Re: douchenozzles
I saw on Royals Review this assclown remark that they hold themselves to a “higher standard” of blogging than SSS.
I hope that his smug self-satisfaction keeps him warm in the cellar.
Yeah, they don't cuss
but they do mate with their offspring. So I believe – though am not absolutely positive – that we win.
Oh, and they generally live in KANSAS CITY. Pity the fools.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
the fuck is that supposed to mean?
bloggers are the scum of the earth. we’re supposed to swear. but besides, half the regulars here are over 50 and pretty much everyone is well off or on their way and yet we all manage not to give a flying fuck about our speech on some obscure website that we mess around with just for kicks. some WASPy know-nothing bullshit if I ever heard it. oh shit, i think we just got put on double secret probation.
and if they think we’re bad, they haven’t seen Lookout Landing.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
hey Colin! You awake! You sober!
maybe we can get one of your BUCkokees or whatever you call it before Wiz opens up the bar.
Waddya think?
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
guess colin picked a bad day to stop sniffing glue...
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 11, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
yes. the day you grow up and move on to rubber cement.
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 11, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
today was a day off from the computer
...so i could buy one that moves with me
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
there's some blond named Charene or Charette or something
on my tv. Talking baseball too, though the sound is off.
I think I’m in lust.
Anybody seen her before? On comcast.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
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