Remainders
by The Cheat on Jul 14, 2008 12:36 PM CDT
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PrintColin was only half right. I wasn't going to spend much time recapping the game, but I did have some stuff I was gonna write about. Unfortunately, my internet connection went down last night, and this is as far as I got.
In need of a 5th starter
Jose Contreras has allowed 63 hits in his last 37.2 innings pitched. He has a WHIP of 2.04 and an ERA of 8.60 during that stretch, a span of 7 starts. The Sox might be able to weather that suck storm if Contreras wasn't coming off a 2-year year stretch of sub-par performance (5.17 ERA over his last 460 IP), or if Javier Vazquez didn't have a 6.80 ERA over his last 7 starts, or if Gavin Floyd wasn't giving up HRs at a rate of 1.7/9IP over the last 2 months, or if Jack Egbert or Lance Broadway had established themselves as a 5th starter in waiting. As it stands right now, Broadway has a terrible hit rate (10.23 H/9) and Egbert has had a roller coaster of a season, though he now appears on the climb (WHIP of 0.97. ERA of 2.81, K/BB of 5.33 and K/9 of 9.00 since June 1).
Missing Pablo
The White Sox owned a league best 3.38 ERA while Pablo Ozuna played the role of 25th-man/rally monkey. Since his departure, the Sox have put up a brutal 6.05 ERA, allowing 6 or more runs in 5 of their last 6 games. Clearly, Pablo was the key to the pitching staff's excellent run prevention.
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Are the Sox willing to trade Fields and Poreda to get him?
I’d be surprised if they are.
Announcer: [A fan] from Frederick, Maryland, wants to know why you don't go out and get some more team speed.
Weaver: Team speed, for Chrissake, you get BLEEP god damn little fleas on the bases getting picked off trying to steal, getting thrown out, taking runs away from you. You get them big BLEEP who can hit the BLEEP ball out of the BLEEP ballpark and you can't make any god damn mistakes.
by hitlesswonder on Jul 14, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
We're gonna get nadda
I don’t see us making a trade for that reason. The cupboard is bare! The best deal we can make right now is to each pitch in $20 and get Contreras laid 5 times a day to get his mind of his friggin’ ex-wife!
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 14, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Pablo
Is clearly the missing piece. Ans may the team never play in Texas again in life.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
Gotta pick at the Ozuna scab, eh, Cheat?
When may we heal? When may we be allowed to mourn appropriately?
When?
The real question is – who will be our next talisman? We had Pods, and our winning % was better with him in the lineup. We had Pablo, and our ERA was better with him on the roster. Who’s our next good-luck charm?
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
The Sox still have four days to trade Ozuna...
Once Kenny trades Pablo for a top prospect like Matt LaPorta, everyone will love him again.
well we did get Garland for Karschner
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 14, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Every since this Brett Favre stuff started
The Staff has not been able to focus!
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
Contreras' run support over his last 7 starts
averages 7 runs a game, so the Sox somehow have escaped with a 3-4 record in those games. (Contreras is 1-3, himself)
AIM: SouthSideCheat
joe morgan in the house!
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
you know who else knew how to win, feisty?
yaz
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
catfish! they don't come like that anymore feisty
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
It is all good
I really enjoyed the progression regarding 5th starter and how Contreras->Vazquez->Gavin chain is a disaster. Funny … Just think how much crap has surrounded our beloved Sox this first half: doll controversy, player spats, jenks going down, PK DLing, Swisher hitting crap, Thome hitting crap, Ozuna, Buerhle starting bad, JC and Vazquez and Gavin going down … and we are still in the first place.
If nothing else comes from this season I will be glad we were in first for so long.
I think it's pretty clear that if we need
another starter, it’s gonna be Clayton Richard. And deservingly so.
http://firstinning.com/players/Clayton-Richard-a/
I would say Jose gets another 2-3 starts to turn it around and then he gets either a DL or bullpen stint with Richard getting his shot.
I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.
But he lost the Futures Game!
Next time do some research.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
i'd say that's pretty not clear
considering the sox permitted him to start in a game that was designed largely to choose the US team for beijing. the flight from there is a teensy bit longer than the one from charlotte.
And the Twins have the advantage of being a better team than the Sox. - hitlesswonder
We shall see if he
makes the team. The team will only be partially made up of futures game participants. And Richard has probably the least “prospect status” about him among the starters on the US team roster. I would imagine the Sox would balk at him going as a reliever. Even considering the chance that he could be picked, I would put him at the top of the Broadway, Egbert, Richard, Poreda and Haeger group of most likely to make an MLB start this year. Others may differ in their opinion. We should know very soon if he makes the roster.
I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.
i'd put the chances of him being on the roster at a near certainty.
the olympic team doesn’t care about prospect status. they want guys who can deliver right now. that ain’t pucetas or something. the fact that he started the game should tell you a heck of a lot about what davey thinks of him.
And the Twins have the advantage of being a better team than the Sox. - hitlesswonder
We shall see
I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.
Considering Johnson
expects only half the team to be made up of future gamers I’d have to say the odds are significantly less than near certainty.
I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.
that's not a particularly good way to determine odds. but whatever. the AAA starter who is a groundball inducing lefty who started the friggin' game in yankee stadium certainly has an inside track.
And the Twins have the advantage of being a better team than the Sox. - hitlesswonder
Actually
I would say knowing that 50% of a group will not be selected for a particular thing is an excellent way to determine whether one particular individual is less than “a near certainty” (barring some inside info). And no I don’t think him starting is inside info. There are many potential reasons why Johnson decided to start him. I’ll give you one: he was one of the few guys that he’s considering that he hasn’t seen personally (or that other important decision makers haven’t seen personally) and wants to see him aginst the other teams’ starters.
For me near certainty means 95%, and I most definitley don’t think that is where Richard is. More like 50/50 or 60/40.
I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.
i agree with that definition of near certainty.
what i don’t agree with is a definition of pretty clear as somewhere in between 50/50 and 60/40.
And the Twins have the advantage of being a better team than the Sox. - hitlesswonder
I was gonna add him last night, but didn't get to it
I’d have to have seen Egbert pitch recently to make an informed decision, but at the very least, It would take a few more starts from Richard before I’m buying what he’s selling
AIM: SouthSideCheat
should his BABIPs worry us?
.215 this year and .257 last year
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
of course.
and that .257 was at b-ham this year. last year and his career average are much higher.
And the Twins have the advantage of being a better team than the Sox. - hitlesswonder
before we get too crazy about those babips from the past, though, remember that, in the minors, horseshit defense plays a big role, especially at the lower levels.
but, obviously, i don’t think .215 and .257 are completely reflective of clayton’s amazing skills.
And the Twins have the advantage of being a better team than the Sox. - hitlesswonder
pablo the playboy
http://www.lifeinthecell.com/?p=1196
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Off the subject
Got a HR derby pool at work, everyone picks 3. I took Hamilton, Utley and Berkman. Any thoughts? Too many lefties?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
I'd go with Joe Crede
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Joe would win that
hands down.
.253/.325 OBP, 17 Errors and he is an all-star. Hmm.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 14, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
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The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Jim, I got my Alexei shirts today
and am proudly sporting one as we speak.
AQnd am beginning the handout to all 3 of the Sox fans I know in Orlando. So you got that going for you.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
Oops.
Great moment – gave one to a Scrubs fan from my neighborhood to give to his 8 year old. HA!
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 15, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
who will end up with the highest EqA and/or ops+?
currently, the race stands as follows:
dye .295 EqA, 141 ops+
q!: .292 EqA, 136 ops+
thome: .291 EqA, 133 ops+
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
that piece of nonclutch shit thome will have the highest in both. fucking designate his sorry useless ass already so we don't have to suffer through his team-leading production.
And the Twins have the advantage of being a better team than the Sox. - hitlesswonder
he's done. ovah.
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
thome sucks and hes not clutch.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
he's clutch at not being clutch
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Jul 14, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
On another note
That is a great 3,4,5. Now if only the bum Konerko could hit his weight.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
And clogs the bases and can't bunt
Announcer: [A fan] from Frederick, Maryland, wants to know why you don't go out and get some more team speed.
Weaver: Team speed, for Chrissake, you get BLEEP god damn little fleas on the bases getting picked off trying to steal, getting thrown out, taking runs away from you. You get them big BLEEP who can hit the BLEEP ball out of the BLEEP ballpark and you can't make any god damn mistakes.
by hitlesswonder on Jul 14, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I vote Dye
Just no minor injuries chief.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
This is much better than the EqA deathmatch.
by reardenmettle on Jul 14, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
that's turned out pretty well for two of the three participants.
it was a deathmatch, after all.
And the Twins have the advantage of being a better team than the Sox. - hitlesswonder
Q! says 'don't fuck with me toonder'
btw, here’s Q! at the asg:
I have feelings I didn’t knew I had now!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
i gave him an exclamation point, dammit.
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
capital Q, capital Q
:p
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
hey, i never capitalize. and besides, HE'S the one regressing to the mean...
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
well you should capitalize Q
I don’t have a mean bitch!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
then who's that lady always telling you to pick up your dirty laundry?
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Q! wont disclose that
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
go back to whatever ben-gay smelling hole you just crawled out of, you MUPOS.
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
My wife gave me analgesic creme for my birthday and the new Beck CD
It is officially OVA! for me being hot. I am woman, hear me roar.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
back in the homeland?
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
One more thing
I can’t complain too much, though. When we landed we were immediately serenaded with Michael McDonald’s version of “Higher and Higher”. Can I ask for anything better than Michael freaking McDonald?
what did they do to you over there?!?
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Q! looks like he's ready to hit the frat parties up
I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 14, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
You think so?
I don’t know. His hair is brushed forward not slicked back or in some crazy Beckham poof. Soft collared and striped shirt—he looks more like the kind of young professional you see riding the train to work than a frat boy.
All business.
Oh come on
The striped button down shirt is a hallowed staple of any barhopping dudemeister ages 18-30. Spiked or gelled hair is no longer considered “cool”, whereas the brushed look gives a sense of confidence in your looks that you don’t need all the products. Women love men who act like they don’t care, and what better way to show that than by not doing anything to your hair.
I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 15, 2008 2:26 AM CDT up reply actions
can we offer kong, owens, broadway/egbert/nessie? others?
even if teixeira will be asking a shit ton of money on his contract…imo this would be such a great pickup for us….great defensive switch hitting firstbaseman…that’ll give us two with swish…could it happen?
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
if they can get something together without giving up poreda...
that would be great but i don’t know if i can see that happening
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
it's worth a try though...send them some video of 2005 konerko
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
yes, they will try to shed salary of a gold glover in his prime to take on the remainder of konerko's contract. absolutely.
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
cut all this tomfoolery and let a guy dream!
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
he has a full NTC, which should be blazoned everywhere on Soxdom Interwebs
I highly doubt he wants to go to ATL
he and his .213 babip against and 5.47 k/9 so far.
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
i haven't looked closely at either of them, really.
although i have to say beane is wise to realize his pitchers have overperformed (blanton aside) so far.
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
The Duke doesn't break 90 regularly with his fastball.
Pass.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
You bastard
I thought I was gonna get a break from hearing that damn “IT’S LOVE” song this week
AIM: SouthSideCheat
Sox interested in kenwo?
recent talks have developed after this highly regarded sox fan established himself as multiple time little league all star as well as having won an unprecedented 4 titles in a row…also this guy knows his way around the baseball field (this is the kind of guy that can just uplift a team and send them in the right direction says hawk harrelson)...could this pickup put the sox over the hump?
what do you guys think
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
by furby2056 on Jul 14, 2008 4:29 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
i heard kenwo hurt his shoulder last year; is he all the way back?
And the Twins have the advantage of being a better team than the Sox. - hitlesswonder
He's got the heart to gut it out, even if he isn't all the way back
Announcer: [A fan] from Frederick, Maryland, wants to know why you don't go out and get some more team speed.
Weaver: Team speed, for Chrissake, you get BLEEP god damn little fleas on the bases getting picked off trying to steal, getting thrown out, taking runs away from you. You get them big BLEEP who can hit the BLEEP ball out of the BLEEP ballpark and you can't make any god damn mistakes.
by hitlesswonder on Jul 14, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
i heard he won't even talk numbers until that bum konerko is gone.
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
He sounds like he plays the game the right way
But Kenny Williams Jr. is blocking him on the depth chart
Property of: PAUL KONERKO Track and Field Academy & Steakhouse
kenwo plays 2B
it’s oney that’s blocking him
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
with his four titles and obvious leadership qualities, does he assume the captain's role when he finally gets to the big club?
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
that's a no-brainer
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
speaking of Q!
Many have tried to explain left fielder Carlos Quentin’s gargantuan first half.http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=220880After working behind the plate at Kansas City last week, umpire Dan Iassogna provided the best analysis.
“He’s Jeff Bagwell,’’ Iassogna said. “He stands up on the plate and dares the pitcher to beat him. He’s incredibly strong and his back leg never moves. And he doesn’t miss many pitches.’‘
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
talk about small sample size...
game with iassogna behind the dish: 2-3, 2 HR, 1 BB, 1 K
two games with iassogna on the bases: 1-9, 3 K
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
hence the "he doesn't miss many pitches"
Q has seen his whiffs rise since that torrid start, though not his K rate really. He cuts down on his swing to get on base.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
i just found it comical...
that an umpire calls a guy he’s seen in three games this year, in which he went a collective 3-12 with 4 K’s and 2 bombs, jeff bagwell.
also, “he doesn’t miss many pitches” could be read two ways. one, he doesn’t strike out often. two, he punishes the ball (as in “when pitchers make mistakes, he hits those fuckers out of the yard”). your comment indicates you think he was referring to the former, despite the fact that quentin struck out in over 30% of his plate appearances in the series that iassogna was watching. what gives?
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
well i assume the umpire has seen a few games before
and has some idea past actual results what he thinks will happen. he may well have done a few of Q’s games outside of the Royals series, no to mention. but i think he probably intended the latter since you mention it. makes more sense in that context right?
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
i would guess so, too. and he hasn't done any other sox games this year other than the series last week.
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Most importantly, he'll marry a golddigger
whore who will eventually end up on the Howard Stern show.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
The umpire or Q!?
and will she be hot, or just have breast implants?
I didn’t know that turning 90 gave you the power to see the future. I can’t hardly wait!
Q!, since he is in the Bagwell mode.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 15, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't catch that, as I don't know much about Bagwell.
Good name, bag well, if you ask me. ;-)
Though I suppose he didn’t actually bag well, if his wife was a golddigger and visited Stern’s show.
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