Open Thread 7/14

by colintj on Jul 14, 2008 11:34 AM CDT

Doesn't look like Cheat wants to recap yesterday's softball game and I definitely do not, so until such a time as a real post gets made, do all your bitching and moaning in the space provided. Link dump to your heart's content. Hopefully I actually mainpage a few of them this time.

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The OG (that's Original Ghandhi yo) getting some good ink in the liberal newspaper

Why has Manuel been successful so far? Perhaps a manager has to be fired once in order to become truly effective.
"Once you get fired — in that time in between jobs — you look at yourself, you check yourself out," Manuel said. "You have to look yourself in the mirror all the time and ask, ‘What did I do wrong?’ You can’t blame others; that’s the first part of the healing process — lashing out at others. After a while you come back and say, ‘Let me check Jerry Manuel out and see where he went wrong.’ I thought that was one of the areas I needed to correct."

Manuel also learned the lesson of self-preservation from his Chicago experience. Namely, managers should not unnecessarily put their fate in the hands of players, "no matter who they are," he said.

Manuel has had some crazy quotes

He compared the booing fans to “manure” and said he was going “to cut Jose Reyes” cause he’s “gangsta like that”.

I don’t know if the turnaround can be attributed to his managing but the Mets finally playing as well as everyone thought they would in a weak NL.

by madvillian on Jul 14, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions

M-E-T-S, Mets Mets Mets!

by rhythm on Jul 14, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions

maybe he's taking a page from ozzie

but rated g style. like i said, i don’t think the turnaround is attributed to him, but like you say, they’re playing to their abilities

"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 14, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions

I hate to do it

But every time someone misspells Gandhi, a kitten gets brutally raped.

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 14, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions

that's my bad, really

"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 14, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions

you say it like that's a bad thing. kittens are KILLING this economy. killing it.

by explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit on Jul 14, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions

Dude

I would hate to do it too. That’s a lot of kittens.

by reardenmettle on Jul 14, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions

How'd he get stuck with that job, one wonders.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 14, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions

Just gotta say

that game was damn near impossible to watch. I don’t think I’ve ever been that bored or angry during a game where the Sox have exploded offensively

-Jeeves Life in the Cell

by jeeves on Jul 14, 2008 11:44 AM CDT reply actions

Yep, brutal. I kept telling Mrs. Chi how much I hated watching, but I couldn't stop.

Talk about Chinese water torture…
Ozzie was right on with his rant after this one.

When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...

by Chiburb on Jul 14, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions

haha too true

I kept telling my brother that I would quite watching by the end of the half inning, but next thing I know it’s four hours and one giant cock tease later

-Jeeves Life in the Cell

by jeeves on Jul 14, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions

OT - on the economy, fish

because colintj invited me to link dump and I didn’t watch the game yesterday, I will provide the following analysis of the economic troubles the US is now having.

Another useful link is the better choices seafood guide, letting you know which fish and crustaceans are better choices in an attempt to prevent a complete and total collapse of our oceans’ fish stocks. A pull-down menu lets you narrow down the list by regions.

by rhythm on Jul 14, 2008 11:52 AM CDT reply actions

Do you know if they account for mercury content?

I don’t see any mention at all about mercury contamination.

"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 14, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions

rhythm, mercury salesman = busted

"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"

by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions

Dammit, Toonder, you blew my cover again!

Your better at blowing than that sandwich-making lady I used to date!

by rhythm on Jul 14, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions

JFC, You're, not Your

Damn you WU, and your cursed typing classes!

by rhythm on Jul 14, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions

did you ever figure out why "her" name was bill?

"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"

by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions

Nope, still working on that one

I know it’s not your thing, but can I hire you out to do the research?

She may have been a man previously, but there was no Adam’s apple to be seen and her vagina was as nice as your mom’s, so that seemed to be in order.

by rhythm on Jul 14, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions

ba-zing.

"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"

by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions

Can't wait to see the discourse after 4 days of no baseball that counts

CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.

by winningugly on Jul 14, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions

no baseball that counts?

bitch, i just got cable. I’m gonna count the shit out of the home run derby! backbackbackbackbackbackbackbackback gone!

lets not forget the celebrity softball match, either.

by Trooper on Jul 14, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions

sonofa

someone ate my <puke> in the middle of the backbackbacks.

by Trooper on Jul 14, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions

"Between the mercury in fish alone

it’s a wonder there ain’t more kids jumping off bridges.”

-Paulie Walnuts Gualtieri

"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 14, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions

On the pocket seafood guide, they do star choices with high mercury content

and also give this website, said to be regarding mercury and other contaminants, but I found a link to this on the page the previous link redirects to.

by rhythm on Jul 14, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions

I lol'd at the al jazeera article

by reardenmettle on Jul 14, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions

which part?

by rhythm on Jul 14, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions

Lots of it.

The lofty rhetoric, the conspiratorial tone, the glee at the US’ economic troubles, etc

I particularly liked this choice quote

We are witnessing the birth pangs of a new, more equal world economic order with the particularly notable rise of Asia (but not just Asia) and with Russia as its most likely midwife.

by reardenmettle on Jul 14, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions

But where's the call to kill Americans?

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 14, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions

it was subtle, but if you read between the lines, you can see it

by reardenmettle on Jul 14, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions

Gotcha

I focused more on the start of the article, talking about how the large amount of debt, brought on largely by the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, has handicapped our economy and how, in an election year, it’s political suicide to talk about cutting back.

Our next president will have quite the nice little mess to clean up. Not impossible, mind you.

by rhythm on Jul 14, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions

but perhaps unpossible?

"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"

by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions

IIRC

Our debt-to-GDP ratio is not out of line with historical averages. And our defense spending-to-GDP ratio is actually well below historical averages. 70% of the current US budget is entitlement spending (ie Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid). That’s the part of the budget that really needs to go on a diet, but realistically, that is not going to happen.

by reardenmettle on Jul 14, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions

Historical Averages?

I’m going to look at the numbers in a minute, but I suppose the historical debt to GDP ratio depends, and whether it is healthy, depends on what your historical end points are.

Also, I’m not sure I’d put too much faith in the numbers you get for defense spending to GDP ratio since 2003, because the Iraq war is not funded under normal department of defense spending. It’s funded with specially allocated funds so that it isn’t subject to the normal passing of the budget political show downs and therefore probably doesn’t fall into the budget pie chart you were probably looking at. I can’t remember if the war in Afghanistan is funded the same way.

And yes, the bureaucracy of gov’t programs should be reigned in across the board.

by rhythm on Jul 14, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions

Ultimately the point is that we're all going to have our taxes increased.

by reardenmettle on Jul 14, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions

Yes, our taxes will have to increase

in order to pay for the rampant overspending of the last 28 years (with those Clinton / Republican Congress balanced budget years excluded). Wars, tax breaks for the rich, inefficient social programs, nepotism, cronyism, and all the other wonderful things about fiscally irresponsible and, recently, completely incompetent management.

But hey, vote republican because they’re the fiscally responsible ones!

I would venture to say it’s better to have our taxes raised moderately now as opposed to having them raised drastically in 20 years to pay for all of this crap.

I still haven’t looked up the budget numbers yet, as I have been busy with work.

by rhythm on Jul 15, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions

I actually didn't look anything up - I was just going by what I remembered from macroeconomics.

It could have been 50% entitlements, 20% defense, 30% non-defense discretionary. In fact, that sounds more reasonable.

by reardenmettle on Jul 14, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions

fucking old people

thanks baby boomers!

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 14, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions

Are you referring to the debt they are leaving us, or how they will continue to suck us dry with their entitlements?

by rhythm on Jul 15, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions

And yeah, the Russia as a midwife bit was over the top funny

by rhythm on Jul 14, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions

OT glorious news

Billy Packer is not coming back to CBS!!!!!!

I’m not crazy about college basketball, but I hate watching the tournament when the best announcers are cut off after the 2nd round, and we have to listen to Packer’s shitboxing all game long.

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 14, 2008 12:03 PM CDT reply actions

you're more into the nba than ncaa? gandhi's kitten has now been brutally raped.

"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"

by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions

Spare me your drivel about how college is more exciting

If I’m desperate to watch low scoring games where the offense revolves around passing the ball for 30 seconds then hoisting up a bad shot, followed by announcers saying everyone is trying really hard, I will gladly watch the Bulls thank you very much.

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 14, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions

at least the nba finals were yawn full of stellar play. ; - )

"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"

by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions

DIE DIE DIE

I like my basketball played by filthy rich millionaires who are usually blazed out of their minds, only try when it’s the playoffs or there’s a contract on the line, and everything’s a race issue.

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 14, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions

As previously mentioned, wait 4 days of no baseball

Mother effing, physical threats, personal slander. Welcome to SSS! What’s your poison?

CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.

by winningugly on Jul 14, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions

talisker

what’s yours?

"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 14, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions

apparently one of our ranks

is going to spend the four days inflating his lardy post totals with “as previously mentioned” repetition.

"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"

by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions

Are we having a contest?

I lose. I add nothing of substance. Ask my ex-wives. Simply a catalyst. Starting a reaction.

CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.

by winningugly on Jul 14, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions

we all lose.

"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"

by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions

now you're speaking in a language i understand.

"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"

by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions

Thank god, I love Gus Johnson and Bill Raftery, hopefully we get more of them!

by madvillian on Jul 14, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions

Added a blurb about Bobby's return to the main post

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 14, 2008 12:37 PM CDT reply actions

Nereida is History

http://www.kickette.com/index.php?/site/comments/dumped_nereida_is_history/

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 14, 2008 1:10 PM CDT reply actions

WARNING, you're gonna wanna hover that link before you click it

Why is Faux Meadow Soprano grinning like a marshmallow addict with a basketful of Peeps on Easter morning as Mr. Unseen From the Waste Up is about to explode on her face?

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jul 14, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply actions

Coming to Sunday's game vs Detroit....

My son and I are coming to the game this Sunday vs. Detroit. My son was Justin Verlander’s roomate, catcher and Old Dominion captain. We are going to watch Justin pitch against the Orioles and of course to watch the Orioles. Having never stayed in Baltimore I would like a little advise on a reasonble place to stay Saturday night fairly close to the stadium and some points of interest in Baltimore Harbour to visit. We will probably be grabbing dinner with Verlander but want to see the sights Saturday afternoon. Any ideas… and of course good luck Sunday.

by RaisinCaneInNC on Jul 14, 2008 1:30 PM CDT reply actions

epic fial.

"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"

by Toonderstrook on Jul 14, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions

did you mean to post this at BeastYouBoys? The Tigers' site?

When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...

by Chiburb on Jul 14, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions

say hi to the Bunk for me

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 14, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions

ozzie

’’Anybody who pitched in this big-league game should be embarrassed,’’ Guillen said. ’’This isn’t big-league baseball. We have people who paid a lot of money to watch this circus. People making a lot of money out there to have a game like that. Both sides, not just my side. It’s embarrassing.”

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/1053998,CST-SPT-sox14.article

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 14, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply actions

word, Ozzie.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 14, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions

The AL midseason review ... '84 Cubs style

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=keri/080714

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 14, 2008 3:12 PM CDT reply actions

RaisinCaneinNC

I live in Baltimore and played against Justin and your son while at Towson (we went 2-1 vs. Verlander in my career, probably not too many can say that). Im not sure you can get a reasonable place down by the harbor, but try areas like Catonsville, Mt. Vernon, and Canton for cheaper hotels that are pretty close to Camden Yards (esp. if you are driving). I wouldnt eat down at the harbor bc the restaurants are all chains, I’d check out Federal Hill and the Canton Square (Claddagh’s) for some good restaurants and bars saturday night. Hope this helps, have fun.

by ozzieball12 on Jul 14, 2008 3:51 PM CDT reply actions