Brushing Up On Gavin Floyd
by colintj on Jul 14, 2008 8:30 PM CDT
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PrintGavin is quite clearly a source of uncertainty amongst SSS faithful. We didn't decide definitively what we think of him and it's for good reason. The same potential that got him drafted in the first round and made him an attractive target for Kenny in the Freddy trade remains evident. He flashes knee-buckling stuff every start, no matter how well he's doing. But who the hell knows what he's going to do next start? The month and a half of nice starts were all but forgotten in his most recent performance against the Rangers, in which he managed to walk 7 batters in two and two-thirds innings.
He's definitely prone to bouts with momentary Blassitis and the underlying cause, inconsistent mechanics, shows up evidently in the HUPGOOD. His line against RHB clearly outlines the idea of control versus command. He's thus far thrown just 31% balls on fastballs to RHB, significantly lower than the 36% average, and given up a miniscule .136 BABIP despite it being put in play at a 26% clip (20, or so, is average). It's a very hittable pitch and a lack of good location is a part of that. In other words, he's allowing his worst pitch to be put in play the most and has been incredibly lucky to not get hurt by it. The ISO so far is low, but the percentage of hits that have gone for extra bases looks high to me (I don't have an average, but that seems like a lot, right?). ISO and BABIP are bound to climb the more he pitches. His luck so far is what's sustaining his success.
On the other hand, he possesses two plus breaking pitches in his slider and curve and undoubtedly the whiff rates would go up if he could find the zone more frequently with them. Having watched a number of his starts and from checking with the Kalk tool, he misses opportunities to get Ks by missing too badly with his strike out pitches. Sometimes he's able to come back and get them even later in the count, but by and large, simple control is the issue here. He can't put pitches into the zone when he needs them. When he has, like that month and a half streak, his K rate has risen as you would expect. But has he actually improved the repeatability of his mechanics? I doubt it.
This is year two for him with Cooper and, for me, it's the test of his future. Coop can only do so much and it's seemed to me in a brief unscientific review of his past work, if the results aren't there in year two, it's unlikely to happen. Typically whatever changes he's instituted, mechanical or otherwise (oftentimes, a new pitch), they usually take some time to perfect before mastery is achieved. Having watched him, I don't think Floyd has the athleticism or, if you want, coordination to achieve what it has always seemed he can. He does not seem to have the ability to flood the zone with his offspeed stuff and his fastball is still subpar. I suspect that the ticks he'll continue to pick up until age 29 or so will improve his results and, at some point, allow him to have a break out season. I'm just not sure the Sox should wait around to see it. Other than Contreras, I see him as the most useful trading chip going forward, since I have to think some combo of Richard and Egbert can replicate what we should expect from Floyd in the second half. If the Twins are refusing to fade and if we have serious intentions beyond merely getting to the post-season, we will need a legit 4th starter. Right now, we have 1-2-3-5-5 as I see it.
This has been primarily a results based survey of Gavin's stuff. I relied relatively little on what I know about what I've seen from him. A real scouting report would definitely include an examination of those mechanics, since that's what this whole thing seemingly hinges on. If he can't eventually manage repeatability, he's not going to live up to his potential. Sadly, this is the unanswered question. I'd need some video and a couple pairs of well trained eyes beyond my own to make this determination.
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Just a small thing
Floyd came over in the Garcia trade, not the Rowand one.
by El Duque's Raft on Jul 14, 2008 8:59 PM CDT reply actions
the awesomeness of Aaron 'The Legend' Rowand causes his name to automatically
replace the name of the Sox player when someone talks about a WS-Philly trade!
it’s automatic dude, we’re powerless!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
fixed
thanks for the edit
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
it's not Freddy
it’s ‘Big Game’ Freddy
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
So are we gonna beat this guy or what?
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by thecip on Jul 14, 2008 10:03 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Q! will take him deep
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
what happens in the clubhouse stays in the clubhouse...
"Come at the king, you best not miss. "
by Toonderstrook on Jul 15, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I think hes a 4
And certainly better than a lot of other 4’s. Luck is a factor for him but Floyd’s stuff does have movement and his problem is still one of confidence in throwing the correct way *your count examples were excellent).
Floyd will end with an ERA in the 4.3-4.4 range which is fine. And assuming he were the number 4 starter in Oct weather I have a feeling that would be fine also.
He’s not an ace. And really no one expected him to be. His last outing shades things a little. Before that his FIP was steadily dropping. Again without significant trades, Minnesota doesn’t scare me at all.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
justin morneau won the derby
be afraid….they still have ty punto….oh shit oh shit…be very afraid
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
It's scary cause he was facing Jesus himself.
Who can stop the ravenous Twins?
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I still see Kenny trying to acquire another starter...
Contreras has fallen apart and Floyd may not last much longer. There is really no way for Kenny to improve the offense, other than the bench. Either Konerko starts to hit or he doesn’t. But Kenny knows he can always improve the pitching. Even with Jenks on the team, they still have either Russell or Carrasco on the pitching staff.
Over the last 28 days,
the team stats are
.290 / .354 / .504 / .858.
Oh for the days when we had 6327 consecutive quality starts.
with a non-ridiculous .311 babip.
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 15, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
we're a pretty good offense right now, yes.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
Home run dreaming
Joe Crede wanted to see White Sox teammate Carlos Quentin in the home run derby, but Quentin wasn’t in the event even though he’s second in the AL with 22 homers.http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-080714-fukudome-ichiro-all-star-game,1,639362.story“That would’ve been neat,” Crede said. “I don’t really see Carlos as a guy that hits a lot of home runs in batting practice. He’s a guy who likes to work on hitting the other way, hitting line drives. He’s not the kind of guy to see how far he can hit it in [batting practice].
“Everyone says it could mess up your swing and stuff, but baseball is played on a daily basis. You have time to work out your kinks. I think there’s plenty of time to where you can work things out.”
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
the ichiro quote in the link is funny
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
says the guy who has been in a huge slump about the best hitter on our team.
maybe crede’s dumbass should take a cue from q! and work on hitting line drives and hitting the other way.
i know what crede was trying to say, but i think it was a pretty significant indictment of himself.
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White Sox among nine teams monitoring Freddy Garcia...
At least nine teams are monitoring Freddy Garcia: the Yankees, Mets, Astros, Rangers, Royals, Red Sox, Phillies, Tigers, and White Sox. We’ve seen the Braves, Rays, and Cubs mentioned too. Garcia’s agent isn’t up for an ‘09 option with his client. A-Rod is said to be pushing for the Yankees to sign him.
84 - 87 MPH? No thanks, I think we already saw that version of Sweaty Freddy...
The New York Post reports that “the Yankees and Mets are among at least nine teams monitoring the progress of Freddy Garcia as he intensifies his workouts to come back from shoulder surgery.”
Along with both New York teams, the newspaper also lists Garcia’s suitors as the Astros, Rangers, Royals, Red Sox, Phillies, Tigers and White Sox. According to his agent, Garcia is throwing 84-87 mph and has avoided setbacks, but is only interested in signing a contract for this season rather than also giving teams an option for 2009.Source: New York Post
i would imagine he'd get up to around 90 after further strengthening.
what’s puzzling, of course, is that this all sounds like a guy who won’t be able to pitch until mid-august or later.
And the Twins have the advantage of being a better team than the Sox. - hitlesswonder
Well...
The trade deadline is July 31st and teams still make waiver trades after that so if Garcia could pitch in mid-August it would be similar to those types of acquisitions.
thanks for the calendar update.
when i say “pitch” i mean “legitimately pitch in organized baseball”. i’m not sure why i’d put a guy like garcia on my major league roster so i could potentially use him in the playoffs when he’s not likely to be able to pitch effectively at the major league level at the time. especially if he’s just going to sign for a month without an option and especially with his other contract demands.
And the Twins have the advantage of being a better team than the Sox. - hitlesswonder
And if Garcia isn't throwing 90+ MPH, he is pretty much worthless...
We have already seen how gas-can Freddy pitches when he is below 90 MPH.
just imagine what he'd be like if he isn't sharp....
maybe i’ve got the timeline wrong. but if you’re a contending team in need of pitching it stands to reason that you probably don’t want to be messing around too much with a guy who is just getting up to major league speed. i’m sure someone will take a flyer on him and it may well pay off to some degree (there are some pretty poor 5th starters out there). i’m just not sure it’s going to be a “contending” team.
i generally don’t engage much in trade speculation. but anyone think a certain 42 year old former chicago pitcher might want to try his hand at the AL before retiring? if the sox were to pick up starting help it would be a pure rental that carries low risk, in my view. and he fits that to the letter.
And the Twins have the advantage of being a better team than the Sox. - hitlesswonder
Maddux would be a good target...
for only a pro-rated $10 million dollars. I doubt the Padres would ask for much considering they originally acquired him from the Cubs for Cesar Izturis. I would fear Maddux pitching at The Cell due to the long ball but he couldn’t be any worse than Contreras or Floyd. Ozzie could even pinch-hit him if he needs someone to get a bunt down.
the padres have almost zero leverage with other teams
considering his NTC. how many teams would maddux really go to? without having a great deal of insight into his thinking, i’d probably put it, at most, at seven. including the chicago teams, especially the sox, in that may be a real stretch, as well. just a thought considering i’m extremely doubtful of all these cabrera and garcia ruminations.
And the Twins have the advantage of being a better team than the Sox. - hitlesswonder
Mark Gonzales' White Sox mailbag
... I was told late last month that there were internal discussions about Freddy but the Sox elected not to pursue him. That could change, but I’d think Freddy would want some guarantees for 2009 as well.http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/askthewriter/cs-080715askmarkgonzales,1,4752066.story
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Chicago White Sox closer Bobby Jenks, making a rehab start for Winston-Salem while recovering from bursitis in his left (non-pitching) shoulder gave up a run on three singles in the first inning. The two-time major league all-star tossed 18 pitches with 11 for strikes and left after the first inning with the Warthogs in front 4-1.
And the Twins have the advantage of being a better team than the Sox. - hitlesswonder
Hard to judge
He could just have been working on one pitch. I’d never estimate how well a pitcher is doing based on a rehab assignment. We don’t know what he’s trying to do down there.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 15, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Jerry Owens is next...
Nationals released outfielder Alex Escobar.
Escobar had been playing at Triple-A, where he hit just .257/.318/.387 with six homers and 31 RBI in 67 games.
Imagine the uproar amongst the beat writers if the great Jerry Owens were to be DFAd.
Well, like most of America's cultural elite, I worship Pan, goat god.
by omnipotent grab on Jul 15, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
It won't happen.
We don’t have anyone on our club who can steal 50 bases. Jerry Owens can do that.
by reardenmettle on Jul 15, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
I think thats a given.
Well, like most of America's cultural elite, I worship Pan, goat god.
by omnipotent grab on Jul 15, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
it was a take on jerry's quote
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 15, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
He forgot the part about getting himself thrown out at least 30 times.
Well, like most of America's cultural elite, I worship Pan, goat god.
by omnipotent grab on Jul 15, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
scott boras on dealing with the white sox
There is the widespread perception in Chicago that Boras is persona non grata with Sox Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf and general manager Ken Williams. Boras insists the reality is completely different.“Jerry’s a bright guy,” he said. “He’s an easy guy to deal with. ... There’s some draft picks (represented by Boras) that they took that they didn’t sign. That’s just an economic decision.
“I know there’s been some bravado (expressed) by the general manager. But it’s a good place to play, and if my players want to play there, I do everything I can to keep doors open so I can get players where they want to go.”
And the Twins have the advantage of being a better team than the Sox. - hitlesswonder
"Right now, we have 1-2-3-5-5 as I see it."
Colin I think you spent so much time evaluating the back of the rotation you short changed the front. In the context of the AL right now and the way they have pitched or are likely to pitch for the remainder of the season, the Sox front three are either 1-1-2 or 1-2-2 at worst. As stated above by others Kenny doesn’t need to shoot for the moon.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
What part of Javy
makes you see him as a 2 so far this year? He has a 94 ERA+ this year.
by Off the bus running on Jul 15, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
He very well may end of a # 3
However his FIP is still 3.86. Nothing is wrong his k rate and his walks are not out of whack. He has given up more line drive this year but how likely is a .333 BABIP against him to continue? No, much in the way Floyd goes up, Javy probably comes down. And the Buerhle and Danks combo up top is nasty right now.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
not sure i'd be comfortable hanging my hat on FIP w/r/t mr. i routinely underperform my FIP.
And the Twins have the advantage of being a better team than the Sox. - hitlesswonder
What bears watching again is Mr Konerko
If he doesn’t start to hit, Ozzie has to switch to optimum defense as much as possible. The defense has gotten a little shoddy lately and there is enough offense to around.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
i don't think it's out of whack to assert that javy will pitch like a #3.
using ERA, admittedly a rough measure, he’s pitched like one in basically 4 of the last 5 years, including this one. what i don’t see is both contreras and floyd throwing up the 6+ ERA that a #5 does.
And the Twins have the advantage of being a better team than the Sox. - hitlesswonder
Definitely cant just use ERA
Hell then Gavin is definitely a 2!
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
then use runs against.
i’m fine with peripherals but the point of pitching is to prevent runs, not look good on stat sheets. javy does the latter quite well. the former, as a 4.5 year history attests, he’s usually average at.
And the Twins have the advantage of being a better team than the Sox. - hitlesswonder
No argument there.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
gavin floyd, by the way, iirc, is at about a 4.75 RA.
And the Twins have the advantage of being a better team than the Sox. - hitlesswonder
I guess this implies that we'll be above average at at least the 5 spot regardless
but I really think only one of the two should be in the rotation, especially as we try to lock up the central. we have to specifically be better than the twins now. i’ve been saying and saying that they’ll fade and it’s somewhat hard to keep the faith at this point.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
don't stop believin'
And the Twins have the advantage of being a better team than the Sox. - hitlesswonder
Why on earth are you so hard on Floyd?
You almost imply that he is negative in the scheme of things. I don’t get that at all. The Texas start was brutal but I’m not ready to call it a trend yet.
The twinkies are a nice story but after all the glam and glitz of how great they have played since June 1st, including fighting to within a half game on June 25th, they remain a 1.5 out. The White Sox still hit, pitch and field better, the lead will open up give it more time.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
just hope they do the usual and don't trade their pitching for help.
And the Twins have the advantage of being a better team than the Sox. - hitlesswonder
I wasn't really referring to any particular pitcher when I ordered the top 3.
I just figured that with Javy struggling right now and Buehrle being Buehrle (which is to say, prone to ups and downs), at any one point it’s unlikely that we have better than 1-2-3.
Javy is a real concern for me personally, since I don’t think I’ve seen him lose his mechanics like this for this long a time. Part of this, imo, is coming to terms with declining fastball velocity.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
more, please...
how do you think the declining fastball velocity plays into the high K/9? small sample size/luck or something else? seems like he’s higher across the board this season over last (k/9 is a little bit lower, but bb/9, ld%, babip, baa).
"now, which is it gonna be: drive your car in the lake or get a dislocated elbow?"
by Toonderstrook on Jul 15, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe but considering his other stats
It looks more like a problem with location the last 7 games, which can be corrected. I agree he’ll probably remain a tease but Javy’s ERA should come down. Buerhle really has not been THAT up and down, he just continues to amaze saber heads.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
OT - Jon Stewart gets rickrolled!
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=175244&title=photoshop-of-horrors
go to the 1:30 mark
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Stupid crowd didn't laugh at the Rick Roll
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by Ozzie Montana on Jul 15, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the Daily Show crowd is the worst part of the Daily Show
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
unless you're a raving left wing anti-republican.
fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!
it's stupid vs. not stupid more than anything
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
Page 2 midseason (White Sox)
Chicago White Sox (54-40): Jody Davis
Davis was a solid player in his prime in ‘84, one who fared even better in the postseason, hitting .389 with two homers and slugging .833 in the NLCS. With apologies to ESPN.com’s latest Power Rankings, the White Sox aren’t quite the best team in baseball—unless these are in fact the Max Power Rankings.
Carlos Quentin
Matt A. Brown/Icon SMI
The White Sox got Carlos Quentin from Arizona in the offseason. Think Arizona would like a re-do?
But what the South Siders do have is a team that could be tough to beat in the playoffs. John Danks’ dominant stretch of 18 starts (adjusted ERA 62 percent better than league average), combined with his pedigree as a top pitching prospect, go a long way toward justifying his status as a front-line starter. Combined with veteran lefty Mark Buehrle, the Pale Hose can match up well with most teams in the postseason, even if Jose Contreras and Gavin Floyd regress after their fast starts and Javier Vazquez continues to be a pitching tease.
The offense has finally caught up to the pitching, with Jermaine Dye and Jim Thome back in vintage form, rookie Alexei Ramirez taking the second base job and running with it, and Paul Konerko working his way back into the lineup. Like the Rays, the White Sox have also benefited from a vastly improved defense: Opponents are hitting .292 on balls in play against the Sox, down from .311 last season. With the Indians bottoming out, the Tigers still pitching-deprived and the Twins seemingly winning by voodoo, the Sox have a great chance to test their postseason mettle.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
Cuervo Girl Throws A Pretty Decent Splitter
http://deadspin.com/5025268/cuervo-girl-throws-a-pretty-decent-splitter
maybe juan can use some tips
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
i would like to bang her.
fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!
Driveline Mechanics
Well, sort of. Driveline Mechanics will soon be a partner in the SB Nation Network, host of team blogs such as Athletics Nation and DRays Bay in addition to some great independent baseball blogs like Minor League Ball and Beyond the Box Score. ...http://drivelinemechanics.com/2008/07/15/news-were-moving/
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Man, we didn't even get a mention.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
too many dick jokes
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Bears sign running back Kevin Jones. Agree on airtight no drunken boating clause.
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
they've seen him enough over the last four years that they should know what they're getting.
haven’t heard anything re: forte lately, either.
"Come at the king, you best not miss. "
by Toonderstrook on Jul 15, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Same type that the Bears always draft...
A power runner without much breakaway speed. He runs very upright.
So does that upgrade them to 6-10 this season?
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by Ozzie Montana on Jul 15, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
by upgrade you mean downgrade?
fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!
What were they last year 7-9?
Who cares, they suck cock, and their defense will be shit when Mike Brown tears his face in half by Week 4.
I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 15, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
but mike brown
makes up for it with his like 200 IQ and on-field coaching ability.
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 15, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Floyd
does not often project confidence when he pitches. His body language looks all wrong to me, does not look confident even when he is throwing well. To me he looks like a very good pitcher but needs to project a more ‘up yours’ attitude. I dunno get some tattoos or his head shaved, something like that.
this is my extensive stats based analysis from England
regards
Sox fan from England, marching on together
bullocks
regards ;-)
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 15, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
tally ho
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 15, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
i also take back my fake brit accusation
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 15, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
nothing
but that you ask me this very question makes me inclined to put forth the accusation once again.
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 15, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions
What happened to JRE?
He get pissed the White Sox were competitive and not come back?
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
He must be using a covered wagon to save on gas
cause he left the “Gay” Area (for WU) in late may, I believe.
Move to Joliet, perhaps?
No computer access in the joint.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
if he's in the pen in joliet, he's the only one.
"Come at the king, you best not miss. "
by Toonderstrook on Jul 17, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
They closed it?
What did they do with my relatives? Alpo?
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
not a soul since march 2004 in joliet state prison.
i wasn’t technically accurate with my last comment, however, because stateville is in joliet proper.
"Come at the king, you best not miss. "
by Toonderstrook on Jul 17, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Par for the course, counselor
Whatever it takes to get your client off. Whatever it takes to get 12 angry men to agree. A line of “truth”, constantly moving.
POS.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
AL Central Moves and Issues, by Christina Kahrl
CHICAGO WHITE SOXhttp://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=7806Big Move: Nothing really applies, but that isn’t to say that the Sox haven’t been busy doing what they can to improve their chances of taking this thing to the wire. Losing Paul Konerko to the DL created an interesting opportunity for Ozzie Guillen to spread some playing time around, which he did by putting Nick Swisher at first and plugging in Brian Anderson and DeWayne Wise in center. This latest resurrection for Wise is a bit of a surprise, but between his batting lefty (helping the team with its heavy lean to the right), speed, and contact-hitting, he’s not the worst choice to carry as a fifth outfielder on this particular team. A brief hot streak earned Wise extended consideration, Anderson got at-bats that he needed, Jim Thome didn’t have to worry about reinjuring himself by donning a glove, and Swisher continued his weird yet fun Mazzilli-like swing from center to first and back to center. It always gets lost in the not-ready-for-prime-time posturing, but this Guillen guy’s pretty nimble tactically.
that was the free portion…
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
would like to know the summary for the twins
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 15, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
MLB likely to defer worldwide draft to 2012
Baseball owners likely will postpone any effort to institute a worldwide draft until their next labor contract with players begins in 2012.http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-selig&prov=ap&type=lgnsCommissioner Bud Selig said interest in a worldwide draft has increased among management, but Rob Manfred, his executive vice president for labor relations, indicated owners probably wouldn’t push for the players’ association to reopen the collective bargaining agreement over the issue. The current deal runs through the 2011 season.
"We’re not near making any decision on that," Manfred said Tuesday. "I think the most likely course of events is that it would be handled in the next round of bargaining. The most likely course of events is we would handle it in 2011." …
hat-tip BBTF
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The Earl of Batter-Pitcher Matchups
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=946
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
What to Make of Renteria, by Eric Seidman
When the Tigers traded two of their top four prospects in Jair Jurrjens and Gorkys Hernandez for Edgar Renteria this past offseason, they had to have set high expectations for the Colombian shortstop. After all, in each of the last three seasons he has increased his batting average, on-base percentage, slugging percentage, and OPS. Suffice it to say, close to the 100-games mark, he has not come close to meeting them.http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/what-to-make-of-renteria/In 82 games he has produced a .254/.301/.326 slash line, "good" for a .627 OPS. He has walked much less, doing so in 6.7% of his plate appearances compared to the 8.1-9.4% of the three years prior. In addition he is not only hitting less but when he does they are not normally of the extra-bases variety. He has just five doubles and five home runs. Add in his lone triple and he has 11 extra-base hits on the season. Of players with at least 300 plate appearances, that ranks as the second worst in baseball, ahead of nobody other than Gregor Blanco. ...
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
The Second Coming Of Josh Hamilton Begins Tonight
http://deadspin.com/5025581/the-second-coming-of-josh-hamilton-begins-tonight
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Mark Gonzales' White Sox mailbag
I think the Beckham negotiations will go close to the Aug. 15 deadline but he’ll get signed. I wouldn’t be surprised if he signs a 2009 contract, which would mean the Sox wouldn’t have to put him on the 40-man roster until 2013. But I see him moving through the farm system quickly.http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/askthewriter/cs-080715askmarkgonzales,1,4752066.story?page=2
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
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