I Heart Joe Blow
by The Cheat on Jul 2, 2008 1:53 AM CDT
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The White Sox were one out away from losing yet another well pitched game thanks to the usual script; lack of hitting with RISP and an amzingly effective reliever giving up an inopportune extra-inning homer. And I was one out away from skipping this recap. A guy can't take a 5-day break, during which the Sox run off 5 in a row, including a sweep of the Cubs, and not expect to hear shit when the first thing he writes about is another late-inning loss.
Thankfully, we don't have to suffer that fate. Alexei Ramirez made sure of that.
The Cuban Missle, Slash, Necktie (whichever you prefer) put the Sox on his back, driving in all of their runs in the first 2:40 of the game. He put the Sox up in the second with a well struck sacrifice fly to center field, but his biggest shot was obviously the 2-out 10th inning HR off Indians closer Joe Borowski. Ramirez leaned on a fastball and hit a towering flyball to left field that barely cleared the fence to knot the game at 2 and save the Sox out of what looked like certain defeat.
Dewayne Wise followed with a pinch-hit single, a first-pitch stolen base, and scored the winning run on Orlando Cabrera's single, perhaps solidifying his roster spot as the Sox are reportedly shopping Juan Uribe (for some reason).
The heroics of Ramirez, Wise and Cabrera wouldn't have been necessary if the Sox could have put something together against Cliff Lee in his 8 innings of work, or if Matt Thornton, who has been incredible this year (save two 10th inning homeruns) didn't give up a bomb to Casey Blake. But Lee got a couple of double plays and escaped the Sox greatest threat having yielded just one run.
John Danks Doesn't Know How to Win
John Danks continues to lower his ERA. He now sits at a 3rd best in the AL at 2.50, yet he has only 5 wins to show for it. His 8 innings were a season high, and 8 strikeouts matched a career high. I can't help but think a veteran would have gone 9 and have at least 10 victories by now. Maybe we can trade Danks at the deadline.
Ozzie's Pen Management
Adam Russell got his first major league win by recording the final out of the 10th. There was some teeth nashing in the gamethread about Ozzie's decision to go with Thornton over Jenks to start the 10th, and truth be told, I would have been right at the forefront of that criticism if this was last year. But Thornton is having an amazing season, and I have no problem using him in that situation. It just didn't work out like Ozzie had hoped. Calling on Russell with two runners on in extra-innings of a 1-run game, however, seemed like a crazy decision. But this time Ozzie looked like a genius as Russell struck out the lone batter he faced to give the Sox a chance at a comeback.
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Hooray for the return of recap!
And I’m glad Alexei got me off the hook there. The early and rushed BUO almost killed our winning streak.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 2, 2008 2:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What were you thinking?
How do you fuck a nut?!
by omnipotent grab on Jul 2, 2008 4:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was pretty fucking great. fun crowd that kept their hopes up. we were rewarded for our faith.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 2, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure that was a fun one
to catch
and thank god for the recap
by 815Sox on Jul 2, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF? Where's Che Necktie's original lithograph?
Who sanitized this? I want an investigation!
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 2, 2008 5:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Things looking up
Of the remaining 83 games the Sox play 25 against Seattle, Cleveland, and KC. That’s 30% of the games. Going 16-9 against that group and .500 the rest of the way doesn’t seem far fetched. That’s 45 wins for a total of 93. That should be enough to win the Central. 90 wins might do it. (That’s going 42-41).
Show mercy. I get to watch the Rangers.
by Tim from Texas on Jul 2, 2008 5:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
bad math at 5 AM
Sox have 79 games left with 25 (31%) against Sea, Cle, and KC. Again, 16-9 against those and .500 against the rest makes 43 more wins or 91 wins total. 40-39 is 88 wins. Apologies. Thank God I caught it before I was skewered.
Show mercy. I get to watch the Rangers.
by Tim from Texas on Jul 2, 2008 5:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i just ordered the che alexei t-shirt on soxmachine
genius shirt. genius.
and god bless joe blow.
by hugh on Jul 2, 2008 9:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't remember my Zazzle password, so I'm ordering
my 20 (yes, 20) tonight when I get home. I’m passing them out to all the Sox fans I know here (3) and all the Cub fans I care to spend $20 on ($15).
Jim. Is. Genius.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 2, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nessie has looked good so far in limited action
Too bad for him there (should be) no room at the inn.
Coffee is for closers.
by vince_ on Jul 2, 2008 9:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ozzie on what the team needs at the trade deadline
Nada:
’’Right now, I don’t think we need anything,’’ he said Tuesday. ’’I’m being honest. We just need these guys to continue to kick butt.’’This club is good enough to be in the pennant race. And I wouldn’t mind taking this club [as currently composed] to the World Series. But you have to be in the playoffs first. You have to crawl before you run.’‘
Coffee is for closers.
by vince_ on Jul 2, 2008 9:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Russell
Has a chance to be a very good reliever. That 94 mph sinker/running fastball was downright nasty to end the inning.
by Rockraines on Jul 2, 2008 10:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thornton
Has there ever been a 95-mph pitcher with an easier motion than Thornton? He looks like he’s just playing catch—and then the gun flashes 94-95-96! How does he do it?
by Arrow on Jul 2, 2008 10:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Roids.
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by winningugly on Jul 2, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the hardball times (iirc) did a study a couple years ago about
how neutering pitchers did indeed correlate with improved control.
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hardball Times and neutering in the same sentence - how ironic.
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by winningugly on Jul 2, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually
for anyone who heard him on the score yesterday for an hour, he gave all the credit in the world to his minor league/major league pitching coach from seattle. But I guess Coop got his control under wraps. I guess his old pitching coach completely rebuilt his delivery with the hope that his easy motion would cause some deception for hitters.
by Rockraines on Jul 2, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it certainly is deceiving
Easy going motion and then 95+
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Jul 2, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely intrigued by Russell's stuff...maybe another reason to explore
the Jenks trade market in off-season.
Also,what’s everyone’s thoughts on a rainout tonight?
I’m mixed….they always say when you are going right you don’t want one…then again we’d miss CC and Minnesota would then get him Friday night at The Metrodome.
by stanchar on Jul 2, 2008 10:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
we want to play him I reckon
he’s Jim Thome’s fav chucker. Jims looked a lot better since the interleague finished.
Sox fan from England, marching on together
by hoodlight on Jul 2, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cleveland doesn't come back, if memory serves
until the last series of the year. not sure how i like the idea of a DH then, if the sox actually need the game. i’d rather kick them now while they’re down.
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Play it - why skirt someone
when you own ‘em? We’re hot, they’re not. What a puss suggestion, stan.
Though if your magic works it’ll be clear skies tonight.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 2, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is the estimate
from you experts about how many players are on steroids? It’s a topic that never seems to be that far away from any discussion on baseball. I know there were problems a few years ago so I’m not sure when you refer to ‘roids’ etc whether it’s a joke or not.
my mate took them for a while but he had to stop because he kept getting angry and hitting people, and his knackers shrivelled up.
many thanks
Sox fan from England, marching on together
by hoodlight on Jul 2, 2008 11:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much no one here gives a shit about roids
And if they’re mentioned, it’s as a joke.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 2, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, then, according to The Hardball Times, your mate would make an excellent reliever.
I was joking about steroids and Matty. However, there appear to be enough folks that attribute any increased performance of a player to non-natural methods that it is a contentious subject. As far as estimates, I’d Google that – they are all over the map. Just read between the lines re: who is grinding what axe at what time for what reason (selling books, reducing jail time, etc.).
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 2, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so in your opinion
(excluding track and field), baseball is no better or worse than the vast majority of team sports with regard to performance enhancing drugs?
Sox fan from England, marching on together
by hoodlight on Jul 2, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not sure if that's true. most sports didn't implicitly condone it during the 90's.
at least to my knowledge.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 2, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean now
in 2008. They injected them all up in the 90s because no one was interested any more, but that no longer applies because it’s popular again, non? Is that correct? A bit like football in England, in the 80s no one was interested apart from people who enjoyed regular visits to the Accident and Emergency Ward, but now it is massive. Has baseball followed a similar plane?
regards
Sox fan from England, marching on together
by hoodlight on Jul 2, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BA introducing Q! and Johhny D to the Honeys!
ON THE TOWN: After the Sox beat the Cubs on Saturday, Sox manager Ozzie Guillen dined with friends and family at the trendy N9Ne Steakhouse, and also in the house was the Cubs’ Jim Edmonds (celebrating a birthday) with teammate Daryle Ward . . . The Sox’ Paul Konerko, John Danks, Brian Anderson and Carlos Quentin celebrated at The Underground, and the Cubs’ Mike Fontenot was also there, in another part of the club … Gibsons was busy over the weekend with actors John Cusack, Jeremy Piven, Kick 10’s Mark Stein, baseball’s Mark Grace and rapper Ludacris .. . The Cubs’ Matt Murton, Micah Hoffpauir and Sean Gallagher in on separate occasions at the downtown Harry Caray’s . . . The Cubs’ Lou Piniella dined at China Grill. The Sox & Cubs should have an eating contest.http://www.suntimes.com/news/foster/1032876,CST-NWS-stella01.article
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2008 11:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sox & Cubs should have an eating contest.
layup.
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Sox had kept Ray King in the system, I could agree with you
but Juan and Toby are partially offset by the Cuban Missle and I don’t think that’s going to get them past Zambrano and Pinella.
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on Jul 2, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Necktie has a tapeworm.
No contest.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 2, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
meanwhile Bobby swings by the Taste to get some BBQ Ribs
Tastefully done: Wednesday will be White Sox Day at Taste of Chicago in Grant Park. The Chevy Pride Crew will be handing out temporary tattoos and longer-lasting T-shirts. Scheduled to sign autographs: Joe Crede and Bobby Jenks (noon-1 p.m.), Ron Kittle and Bill Melton (1-2 p.m.) and mascot Southpaw (2-2:30 p.m.).http://www.suntimes.com/sports/quickhits/1032526,CST-SPT-1hit01.article
didn’t Ozzie say something about Bobby in yesterday’s postgame pr?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Southpaw is signing autographs?
This confuses me for the following reasons:
1) How the hell can he sign shit with those damn monster hands?
2) Who the hell wants a Southpaw autograph?
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on Jul 2, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe he does a print
you know for the kids or something
Sox fan from England, marching on together
by hoodlight on Jul 2, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least he's not ringing a bell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxHStab2CD4
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus H. Christ
I remember my first beer as well. Ahh, the wonders of alcohol…at least I hope those people were drunk.
Where the hell were these people two months ago? You know, when they were drawing 8,000 at the gates on a good night?
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on Jul 2, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Underground
I don’t want to even think of how much money I spent at that place the one time I went. It was fun though
by 815Sox on Jul 2, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, now you've done it.
i got ‘the way i are’ blaring at my place.
FUCK YOU, that's my name!! You know why, Mister? 'Cause you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar BMW. That's my name!!
by MarketMaker on Jul 2, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I almost feel sorry for the Indians
Almost. The 12th man on our pitching staff is better than their “closer”. It must be torture for Cleveland fans to see Wedge trot Joebo out there. Are they clamoring for Wedge’s job yet?
by bhoov on Jul 2, 2008 12:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He just got a three-year extension.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jul 2, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BWAHAHAHAHA!
Payroll Wedgie.
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by winningugly on Jul 2, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, he had been relatively okay since he came off the DL
relatively being the operative word. one might posit that wedge has been directed, or at least nudged, by management to continue using him in the “closer position” in an attempt to retain/improve his trade value. because you know borowski would be one of the first to go in a firesale. and a guy who is closing games with reasonable effect will, even if the acquiring team won’t use him as a closer, return more than a guy who is pitching in a setup role with reasonable effect.
at any rate, i still stand by what i said in the gamethread about wedge. borowski was questionable and the outfield positioning was stupid. if hawk and dj notice it (well, i guess i should give some credit because those two are actually quite good at commenting on that aspect of the game)...sizemore, along with everyone else, was playing too deep. sizemore in particular has make up speed and could get to most things that would be hit between him and the wall. and this was friggin cabrera at the plate. he’s not particularly liable to line something to the centerfield wall. move your outfielder in so he can actually possibly throw out a guy with wise’s speed at the plate on the most likely outcome of a batted ball – a single. a few steps in and you at least have a play at the plate on an accurate throw.
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cabrera isn't normally likely to hit a ball to the CF wall...
but he did do just that in an earlier AB in the game. Still Sizemore should have been playing more shallow like you say. One AB by Cabrera earlier in the game shouldn’t have swayed Wedge’s opinion on him.
by SSH2005 on Jul 2, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good call, SSH - he did, at that.
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by winningugly on Jul 2, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that you MM?
http://chipshots.chipramsey.com/2008/07/02/orlando-cabreras-incredible-time-travel-machine.aspx
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2008 12:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no, but somebody is obviously piggybacking the humor dropped on a nightly basis at sss.
i would like to know who it is. it’s gotta be somebody here, right? that is more than coincidence.
FUCK YOU, that's my name!! You know why, Mister? 'Cause you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar BMW. That's my name!!
by MarketMaker on Jul 2, 2008 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
chip ramsey reads/corresponds with jim at soxmachine
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and apparently reads sss, too, huh?
FUCK YOU, that's my name!! You know why, Mister? 'Cause you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar BMW. That's my name!!
by MarketMaker on Jul 2, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, you meant on chipshots. i see it.
i also see his wife’s name is princess. if that isn’t a recipe for disaster, i don’t know what is.
FUCK YOU, that's my name!! You know why, Mister? 'Cause you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar BMW. That's my name!!
by MarketMaker on Jul 2, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WP graph
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/tht-daily-is-it-over-yet/
btw, 51 (-3) projected wins
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2008 12:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
THT's PITCHf/x article catalog
http://www.hardballtimes.com/apps/pitchfx_archive/
Mike Fast’s intro: http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/announcing-the-pitchfx-article-catalog/
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2008 12:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nate Silver's 'Flipping the Switch' article
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=7743
doesn’t he know ‘Flipping the Switch’ is a White Sox trademark?
:p
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2008 12:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i didn't really like that article
it wasn’t all that elucidating.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 2, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
plz explain
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 2, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you don't think that article served to explain the rays' success this year, i'm not sure what does.
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
aren't the concerns exactly the same?
Rays: “Certainly, they have had a couple of breakout performances—Dioner Navarro or Edwin Jackson or Evan Longoria for example—but even these have come from young and talented players, to whom such things are supposed to happen occasionally.”
Sox: “Yes, it is a lot of fun when you are a team like the White Sox, and you have guys like Carlos Quentin and John Danks who break out when nobody is quite expecting it. But when that happens, you also have to hope those guys aren’t first-half flukes. The Rays do not really have parallel concerns.”
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 2, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hes trying to pat himself on the back
for PECOTA predicting the Rays breakout while distancing himself from Danks and Quentin’s breakouts, which PECOTA didn’t predict.
by Off the bus running on Jul 2, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wasn't really caring about that portion of the article.
and i think you’ve done some artful cutting and pasting which makes nate’s less than clear writing seem worse than it really is. the part you leave out regarding the structural changes is the true point he’s making (and the distinction he’s drawing between the teams), albeit less than eloquently.
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i didn't mean to artfully do anything.
i have no beef with the structural changes argument. i just don’t understand how when the rays’ young guys play well, they are good players but when quentin and danks break out it’s nice but you have to be concerned about those peformances being fluky, but not those of the rays’ breakout players.
and like you said, he’s the one who attached the parallel concerns to the paragraph about danks and quentin potentially having fluke first-halves, rather than as the overarching theme of the comparison re: structural changes.
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 2, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PECOTA is generic still till a point
It doesnt take into account Danks nows uses a cutter (or any pitcher with a new pitch for that matter) that results in drastic changes or that a bum shoulder severely hampered Q’s numbers. I agree though it wasnt the best comparsion from Nate.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Jul 2, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's an age thing - if you are 22 and do it, you're fulfilling
your potential and are onthe appropriate peripheral “curve”. But if you are 25-26 and doing it (even 24, for Pete’s sake) you are suspect. Seems there’s no wiggle room in projections for guys maturing at a different rate. Q and Danks were high-ceiling guys who didn’t make it right away, so it’s a surprise now that they are good, since they perhaps were cast away too soon (and who wants to admit they sold too soon?).
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 2, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
SI seems shaky on Quentin too
I broke it down further on my site, and since I’m spamming, I’m coming back to full time writing now that I’m at home for the summer rather than in Baltimore/LA
//last spamish comment you’ll see from Jeeves
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Jul 2, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
A hurt hand wouldnt have any thing to do with his June numbers at the time huh?
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Jul 2, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hope thats directed at SI, not me
Cuz i think the injury or whatever had some affect
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Jul 2, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can do it for ya!
http://www.lifeinthecell.com/?p=1157
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe that's what he is getting at
but if so, he used the wrong examples. navarro is 24, longoria 23 1/2, and jackson 24 1/2. danks is 23, although quentin is almost 26.
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 2, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the point he's making
was that the sox’ success is reliant largely upon the breakout performances of those two players. the rays’ success, on the other hand, while helped by the breakout performances of some players, is more attributable to the structural changes they made to their defense and pitching. hence, the sox’ concern is that if those players don’t continue performing, they’re fucked (or, at this point in the season, maybe it’s just that if they didn’t get those performances they would have been fucked). the rays don’t have that parallel concern.
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
again, they've done a fine job with their structural changes.
but the sox success is also the result of the resurgence sof dye, crede, and contreras, the breakout of floyd, surprising play of alexei, and the bullpen, isn’t it? and just as he suspects pena and others to come back from bad first halves, isn’t it likely swisher, thome and/or konerko will be better the second half as well?
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 2, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's all nice.
but that’s not his point. do you recall prior to the season when i said that their improved defense might well net them a savings of like 80 runs (i can’t remember the exact figure)? no breakout performance by a single player – or even a few players – is going to do that for you. the rays’ improvement is less reliant on individual vagaries or luck or slumps or breakouts or whatever. the article is less about individual performance than team performance and simple changes that can be made to a team which can be far more reliably counted upon to improve a team (and stay improved) than individual performances.
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It bears mentioning pre season
Most predicted defense would be a Sox Achilles heal and cost the staff a great deal of runs.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Jul 2, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
partially, at least on my part, because a poster i trusted poisoned my mind about a certain player's ability in center.
and i would also imagine partially because of another (now since retired) poster’s assault on a certain player’s ability at SS.
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hes waiting for 2 more weeks (heel not heal)
to say the Sox are the favorite in the Central. At his current rate I don’t think there will be any question that Cab will rate the 2-3 wins more predicted by him starting at SS all year vs Uribe there.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Jul 2, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok.
the real point is that the structural changes to the rays defense and bullpen make them better off relative to the sox. yet there is no mention of structural change to the sox bullpen, which has a better era with the same whip, lower bb/9, and higher k/9?
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 2, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who cares?
is this some sort of “everybody hates the sox” screed? i realize we’re lawyers here and we like to delve into minutiae but jeez, toonder.
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no.
you said it was a relative comparison. if so, that’s a big thing to leave out, isn’t it, rather than minutiae?
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 2, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, it's not. you still are not getting the point of his article. i realize he didn't explain it all that clearly but read this:
Percival—and Dan Wheeler, who was acquired late last year for Ty Wigginton—have been important parts of that, but the defense has made everyone look better.
this is the point. it is primarily defense. it is making small changes with big results. i think nate would tell you that splashing a collective $30M on two setup men, while perhaps being able to be classified as a structural change, isn’t what he’s getting at with the rays. the defense is what is causing them to concede less runs. the defense is allowing the starters to go deeper into games because they’re getting more outs. thus the bullpen is being used less. ergo the shitty players at the backend of the bullpen are used less. the addition of percival at the supposed top of the pecking order in the bullpen has served to increase that effect because one less shitty arm is in the pen but it’s the defense, stupid.
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like that assessment and explanation
except Necktie, the free agent pen, and even Toby effin’ Hall have also contributed much to the turnaround. I might infer it’s easier to embrace a young, scrappy, aggressive team and credit them as opposed to what KW did – free agent signings and crafty trades, plus pray that your old guys hold up.
Rays are easy to love now. Quite the feel-good story. National news – they are new and fresh. How can you get excited about Thomer/AJ/Crede/Paulie?
By wearing an “Alexei” shirt, that’s how!! And they are on sale, www.soxmachine.com. They’ll make more, if necessary…
;)
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 2, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is my primary issue
it’s a story line they’ve been pimping for a while now, so anyone who’s been reading the site has already been to that point. meanwhile there’s the danks and quentin comparison hanging out there making little to no sense as far as I can see it, because it gives very little credit to a significant process that Kenny undertook that “structurally” changed the White Sox. The word “structural” itself doesn’t make much sense to me. A baseball team isn’t really a structure. Baseball team defense is, but that’s not really what he said. It was just poorly written in my opinion.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 2, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he should have just written what larry did to me.
i think “it’s the defense, stupid” would have made his point a lot clearer.
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 2, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he did a good job of burying the punchline
that’s for sure.
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
your primary issue is that you find a perceived slight to "your" team.
get over it.
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if that's what you want to read into it, that's fine
but you admit yourself that he obscured his own point via poor english. if the one thing i can make sense of happens to be a point i feel falls under my personal expertise, i’m going to give it a once over. considering we both agree the writing was poor, what was wrong with my original objection re: failure to elucidate?
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 2, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what did i fuck up this time?
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 2, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
to make lucid especially by explanation or analysis
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 2, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nate's always hating on the Sox
However I think the Rays are legit… alot of people say they are “too young” to win… silliness
by 815Sox on Jul 2, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is some merit on whether a young team might wilt at the stretch run
Nothing silly about that notion. And everybody knows Nate and Larry are the same people. Except he doesnt hate the Sox.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Jul 2, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ozzie on Jenks (I hope the 'not' is a typo)
... Also, closer Bobby Jenks has converted 12 saves in his last 13 chances despite allowing 11 hits in his last eight games. Guillen is concerned with Jenks’ confidence and dip in velocity.http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/cs-080701-ozzie-guillen-chicago-white-sox-roster,1,4587206.story“I saw his velocity [Sunday] was 90-91 [m.p.h.],” Guillen said. “We gave him a day off [Monday] and we don’t have to pitch him [Tuesday]. We plan on not pitching him. But he’ll come back, and physically come back to where he was.”
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2008 1:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oh, he refers to yesterday's game only...
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
…Alexei Ramirez running down a pop-up in the second despite interference from a seagull…
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2008 1:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that bird almost looks photoshopped in
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Jul 2, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So does Necktie
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 2, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure the seagull could lift him.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jul 2, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he looks like a condor next to Necktie
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 2, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
picking him up to build a nest
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Jul 2, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fucking commie seagulls!
FUCK YOU, that's my name!! You know why, Mister? 'Cause you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar BMW. That's my name!!
by MarketMaker on Jul 2, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WU goes on the Interstate
As WU was driving down Interstate 275, his car phone rang. Answering, he heard his wife’s voice urgently warning him, “Dear, I just heard on the news that there’s a car going the wrong way on Interstate 275. Please be careful!”
“Heck,” said WU, “It’s not just one car. It’s hundreds of them!”
:p
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2008 2:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BWAHAHAHAHA!
You are about ready for the Borscht Belt, kid.
;)
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 2, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tigers 0 Twins 7 in the 8th
Looks like the Tigers may be done soon (if they aren’t already)
by 815Sox on Jul 2, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And the Twinks' overconfidence is peaking
just before they crash and burn. Win-win.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 2, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have rather seen the Tigers win 2 or 3 against the Twins...
Oh well, now the Sox have to beat Sabathia to maintain the 2.5 game lead.
by SSH2005 on Jul 2, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
old(er), injury-riddled team
with marginal pitching. if they could get all their big guns in the lineup and keep them there, they would likely have been able to overcome the pitching issue. but they get granderson back and sheffield gets hurt. they get sheffield back and ordonez goes down. and so on. i said this team was on the razor’s edge prior to the season and they’ve run afoul of the razor all season long.
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could say that about most teams though
Including the Sox. God forbid Dye and/or Thome gets hurt and suddenly this team looks pretty bad. Add in the loss of a major starter (say Bonderman roughly equals Count) and the Sox would be in a world of hurt as well.
Although I suppose Dye and Thome have been relatively healthy the past few seasons, something the Tigers couldn’t say about Mags and Sheff.
I thought the Tigers were going to be pretty good this year. Obviously the unexpected loss of Granderson and Bonderman for large parts of the season has not helped their cause.
by madvillian on Jul 2, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the same thing re: the Sox comparison
Big difference – SP and pen. Tiggers may have decent (decent is a stretch) SP, though can’t hold a candle to the Sox’. But their bullpen is tattered and beaten up, whereas ours is lights out. We can watch Paulie go down to the DL and improve our defense with Swish at 1B and BA in CF. We can have Uribe go down at the beginning of the year and Necktie steps in. We can have Crede get hurt and…well, we can cover most holes reasonably well.
Funny how our depth has been a concern, yet we’ve had injuries already (granted, none life-threatening) and yet we are rolling on.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 2, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
The pitching has been nothing short of shockingly good, ERA+ of 125. I don’t know any but the most optimstic fans (homers?) saw that one coming.
by madvillian on Jul 2, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marcus Thames
OPS+ of 157 in 166 PA.
They caught lighting in a bottle there, where would they be without that. Probabyl a few more games back.
by madvillian on Jul 2, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i did say that about the sox. considering the state of their rivals, that is now - if it wasn't always - the primary thing which can still derail the sox' season.
some teams have more depth, or othwerise the ability, to plug in players should major components go down. both detroit and the sox have virtually nil in their farm system, either to call up or trade.
and WU just provided the pitching difference, which i would say is the key point. the sox have generally been able to avoid putrid runs when their offense doesn’t fire on all cylinders considering their pitching. detroit experienced the “our pitching already was not so good and our offense, which was supposed to score like 1000 runs, was not so good at the same time.” hence their april/may.
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The history of those players hasn't been one of injury
there’s a difference between fragile and injury prone. Difference between being able to pour yourself a glass of wine, really.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 2, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably for the best
Tigers are a lot more likely to add payroll in a playoff push then the Twins if we’ve learned anything over the years. I’ll take KW and Reinsdorf’s money over whatever the Twins are doing before July 31st.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 2, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have they declared US Cellular a superfund site?
Their is not a bid in Dodge for Sox tickets on EBAY today (or last night).
Beautiful night, winning team,....... Oh yeah, they’re not the Cubs.
Pitching, defense, health.
by ballyb on Jul 2, 2008 2:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
eBay?
what, is this 2004? ;)
don’t know about last night but would you bid on a game that isn’t likely to be played?
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, bally, you are the weather expert, GD it.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 2, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
everybody's over at
Stubhub. My stubhub tics (admittedley for 7/3 and 7/4) sold very quickly. And in general they are selling much quicker since school let out.
by bhoov on Jul 2, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah.
i stopped using ebay years ago for tickets (and everything else eventually, too). stubhub is far superior. specialization, i guess, helps a lot.
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and the stubhub customer service actually serves.
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 2, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's definitely the key
i didn’t buy a lot of tickets from ebay (mostly other stuff). but i got fucked so many times on stuff i’d bought – and, while i didn’t get fucked on tickets, i knew people who did – that i just stopped purchasing tickets and eventually everything else. their “guarantee” at stubhub means far more to me than ebay’s. ha.
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've gotten
some pretty nice deals on ebay in the past but everyone doing Buy It Now almost exclusively these days.
by sti3 on Jul 2, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how does stubhub get all of those tickets?
they can’t actually buy them en masse from the team can they?
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 2, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're joking right?
It’s just like e-bay in that respect. Anybody who has tickets can sell them at stubhub. Of course stubhub gets their cut. But like larry says they have a real guarantee. They actually get the sellers credit card info, so if there are problems with the tics they can charge the seller.
by bhoov on Jul 2, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i didn't think that was the case, but parties have been quite insistent in certain instances that such was.
i wanted confirmation of my skepticism, is all.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 2, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should Magic get the start today and bring Count in after the 2 hour rain delay?
I’m going to this one tonight too.
Uribe is a mudder!
Property of: PAUL KONERKO Track and Field Academy & Steakhouse
by thecip on Jul 2, 2008 3:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That would be smart
I’d be impressed if the Sox do that…as long as the rain delay does come
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Jul 2, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
reifert
OC, SS; AJ, C; Q, LF; Dye, RF; Thome, DH; Ozuna, 3B; Swish, 1B; Ram, 2B; BA, CF. Contreras pitching.http://whitesoxpride.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/07/indians_series_finale.html
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
holy motherfucking christ. ozuna 6th? ahead of nicholas goddamn thompson swisher?
i’m all for playing a little with matchups and ozuna is good against cc. but what the fuck ozzie. if we’re gonna do that what is aj doing second.
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is not a good lineup for tonight
AJ and Thome in the top 5 with Ozuna in there. maybe there’s reason to lay off Jim of late, but supposedly the historical split is more telling anyway. oy vey.
on the other hand, it isn’t a very important game here. given the pitching matchup, you figure our chances to win can’t be better than 45% or so, which is pretty low for this baseball team. might as well go a little sunday lineup.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 2, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand historical Colin
But Jim has simply punished LP this year.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Jul 2, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't know about our chance of winning
but the Sox are favored in this game according to the papers, which i found interesting…maybe cuz of homefield
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Jul 2, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't see homefield mattering that much to CC
The Large Lefty looks down his nose at such tomfoolery.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 2, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
whoever did the odds, maybe thought so
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Jul 2, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For that matter
WTF has BA been doing batting 2nd? Some things just defy belief when Ozzie fills out the scorecard.
by madvillian on Jul 2, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think its his misguided notion from time to time he wants more speed up top.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Jul 2, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, I was going to post earlier that since Ozuna is hitting 1.000
this year against CC, and >.400 for his “career”, he’d be prominently featured.
There is no way on God’s Earth he will be DFA’ed this year. He could HAVE stubhubs for legs and arms and Ozzie would play him as the actual third base. He will play.
Amazing. Though I do agree with sitting Crede against CC, it sure tells you (as if we needed to be reminded) how gone Uribe is.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 2, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is something going on in practive or something?
I have long wondered why he will not play Uribe there. Has Juan said he doesnt feel comfortable there anymore?
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Jul 2, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No idea...
Ozzie played Uribe at 3B before the Sox signed Ozuna.
by SSH2005 on Jul 2, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
some people say that there's a growing concern
that uribe’s anal relative pet fisting in the clubhouse is causing his throwing arm to weaken. not to mention that scott linebrink, the hardcore christian, doesn’t approve.
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they've been hiding fields on the DL
until they can get this uribe situation taken care of. linebrink is veteran enough to disapprove; fields would have an apoplectic fit.
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 2, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think of the interview he could recant in 5 minutes!
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 2, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A Disney Conspiracy Theory
http://www.firejoemorgan.com/2008/07/holy-conspiracy-theories-green-lantern.html
first read this http://www.firejoemorgan.com/2008/07/rick-reilly-joke-of-week.html
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2008 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Brett Favre Seriously Considering Unretirement, NFL Live Says
http://deadspin.com/5021546/brett-favre-seriously-considering-unretirement-nfl-live-says
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2008 4:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
haha
whatevah, I do what I want!
- Brett Favre
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 2, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre's under reported rap
Everybody, Aaron tell me how my ass tastes.
Yeah you can’t do it without me.
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Jul 2, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
isn't it just 'you can't do without me'?
that’s what i’ve been saying to my minions, at least.
FUCK YOU, that's my name!! You know why, Mister? 'Cause you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar BMW. That's my name!!
by MarketMaker on Jul 2, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd care more
If I thought the Bears had more of a chance then an ice cube in hell this year…
by 815Sox on Jul 2, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
since chiburb royally fucked this up last time
despite my warnings, i’ll take a reckless stab at a SSS meet-up. i say we hijack the scott reifert’s blog night and turn it into a SSS-heavy outing. iirc, the people who go to this meet reifert and some other sox players/executives so there are benefits other than just going to the game. plus, from my occassional reading of the comments on his blog, there will likely be plenty of douchebags asking idiotic questions that we can make fun of – something which wouldn’t occur in the learned and thoughtful atmosphere of a SSS only crowd. info below. if this passes the litmus test on this thread as being a good idea, i’ll create a diary. please provide your acceptance or disdain for this idea.
Blog Night III
OK, we finally got this worked out … to order click here.
Game is 8/6 vs. Detroit (7:11 start). Tickets are $18 each and supplies are limited so order early. Passcode when you order is: “Blog” (creative, I know).
If you have any problems or issues ordering: dmilliken@chisox.com (my good friend Dustin)
As in past years, Blog Night III attendees will be asked to arrive by 5:45 pm for an event in the Conference & Learning Center (details to follow). From there, you can head up to your seats as a group.
Sound good?
How about anyone who has attended in the past offering their thoughts/opinions/comments to others here to explain how the evening goes and if it’s a good time (or not) ...
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 4:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
as further info, i know KW was there for the 2006 blog night.
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and before someone passes this idea along to reifert/the sox in some attempt to combat this idea or something
not everyone on reifert’s blog is a douchebag who will ask idiotic questions. first, i read reifert’s blog everyday because it’s great for an inside perspective on the sox and he does a good job of not being rah-rah. everyone else should, too. second, we’ve got plenty of idiots on this blog, too (though most would probably be too fearful to come out to a SSS meet-up). everyone there will be a sox fan and by “hi-jacking” i don’t mean we should disrupt the event or something. it just seems like a relatively easy way to get all of us into a sox event that will be pretty informative and get us tickets to a game in the same general section without having one of us set up an event with the sox or something.
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but just to be clear, when you say hi-jack, you do mean kidnap q! and set the place on fire as we leave, right?
FUCK YOU, that's my name!! You know why, Mister? 'Cause you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar BMW. That's my name!!
by MarketMaker on Jul 2, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think i may already have tickets for that game, but i would say yeah.
it’s a wednesday, huh? pencil me in.
FUCK YOU, that's my name!! You know why, Mister? 'Cause you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar BMW. That's my name!!
by MarketMaker on Jul 2, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what do you think we can get for Q??
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 2, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, to be honest, i wasn't thinking about holding him hostage.
i thought we might eventually eat his heart so his strength be in us. first, of course, i would cut into him, to tear the flesh, to wear the flesh, to be born unto new worlds where his flesh becomes my key.
FUCK YOU, that's my name!! You know why, Mister? 'Cause you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar BMW. That's my name!!
by MarketMaker on Jul 2, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
and this season is OVAH
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 2, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that sounds like it would be pretty hilarious to be at
and maybe i would come up with a good question while i was there.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 2, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It sounds like an awesome idea, actually
Wish I could participate.
Unfortunately my temporary office assistant job clearly runs through Aug. 8, after which it’s back to shoveling cow pies for me.
Up yours WU, you POS! ;)
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on Jul 2, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would love to be there and ask the worst questions of all time
Sadly, will be out of the city for much of early August while I undergo training to become an assassin.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 2, 2008 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hopefully they train you to remain anonymous first. you can't go around telling everyone you're an assassin.
FUCK YOU, that's my name!! You know why, Mister? 'Cause you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar BMW. That's my name!!
by MarketMaker on Jul 2, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ozzie montana is his real name
fuck
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 2, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
further info
1) i already have a ticket. so, if the rest of you decide you don’t want to go, fuck you. i’m going to be there anyway. if you all want to be assholes and make me sit all by myself with the losers, fuck you and your relative who anally fists your dog.
2) the actual game tickets appear to be that first section (107) next to the foul pole in RF. i’m in row 22.
3) this is the actual link (use the passcode of ‘Blog’) to get the tix; you need to like sign up with an email address presumably to attempt to keep out non-reifert blog poster interlopers like us:
by larry on Jul 2, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was gonna ask about seating.
i’ve actually sat in almost that exact area already this year. that’s not bad, at all. i was gonna have to pass on the upper deck seating. i’ve sworn those off as a last resort only.
FUCK YOU, that's my name!! You know why, Mister? 'Cause you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar BMW. That's my name!!
by MarketMaker on Jul 2, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I strike out by a week.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 2, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No recap from me again tonight.
I’m out of town for the fourth starting tonight, and I know I won’t have internet access tonight (my grandparents have no need for the internets)
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Jul 2, 2008 5:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No need for the internets, blasphemy!
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on Jul 2, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Responsible members of this blogging community (ie not me) will keep this baby in tip-top shape until you return
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on Jul 2, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
let's burn this mother down!
//doesn’t know that the internet isn’t an actual location that one could go to and physically burn down.
FUCK YOU, that's my name!! You know why, Mister? 'Cause you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar BMW. That's my name!!
by MarketMaker on Jul 2, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So if Al Gore invented the internet, does that mean it resides in Tennessee?
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on Jul 2, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Party while the adults are out of town!!!!
PRE 4TH OF JULY KEGGER WOO
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 2, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if they run off a sweep of the rest of this homestand
You know better than to come back, right?
by Trooper on Jul 2, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh shit
Just remembered this one is on WICU…. looks like its Farmer and Stone for me
by 815Sox on Jul 2, 2008 5:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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