Sox Call Up Clayton Richard
by The Wizard on Jul 20, 2008 7:21 PM CDT
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[WFLI]
The Chicago White Sox have called up former McCutcheon standout Clayton Richard from the White Sox' Triple-A affiliate in Charlotte, North Carolina. The White Sox informed Richard of the roster move late Sunday afternoon. Richard was scheduled to pitch Monday night at Victory Field in Indianapolis but will now join a White Sox team that leads the American League Central. Richard, a former Indiana high school Mr. Football and Mr. Baseball winner, had won his first six starts at the Triple-A level. The left-hander had a 6-0 record with a 2.37 earned run average at the time of his big league callup.
Richard's Pitching Splits
Unconfirmed no more! (thanks SSH) - Mark Gonzales (Baseball America) - Press Release
Jim has a 4:02 video clip of Clayton:
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At least he played football.
What a gamer.
…and there is nothing like my dad’s egg sandwiches! - Nick Swisher
by omnipotent grab on Jul 20, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and he wasn't a sissy ass punter, either.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 20, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Q! was a linebacker
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 20, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How dare you compare mere mortals to His Holiness?
…and there is nothing like my dad’s egg sandwiches! - Nick Swisher
by omnipotent grab on Jul 20, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 20, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cqnt a superhero get a little respect?!
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 20, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
superheroes have spellcheckers
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 20, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a hQppy accident/
…and there is nothing like my dad’s egg sandwiches! - Nick Swisher
by omnipotent grab on Jul 20, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice cqtch!
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 20, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
qccidental my ass
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 20, 2008 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
doesn't hqppy qccident = purposeful qction?
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
qs far as I know, no...but I've been wrong before
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus wqs q Cqpricorn
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
since it hasn't been included on the front page
by larry on Jul 20, 2008 8:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn there go the Nessie pics.
…and there is nothing like my dad’s egg sandwiches! - Nick Swisher
by omnipotent grab on Jul 20, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good. the constant posting of pictures has become a little lardy.
by larry on Jul 20, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sour puss
…and there is nothing like my dad’s egg sandwiches! - Nick Swisher
by omnipotent grab on Jul 20, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
[Juan Uribe fat joke]
I CAN'T STAND IT.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jul 20, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very good jim.
…and there is nothing like my dad’s egg sandwiches! - Nick Swisher
by omnipotent grab on Jul 20, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cowley working real hard on nailing down the details of this story.
Joe-prah’s Book Club book of the week – “God Save the Fan” 52 minutes ago
no mention of adam russell or clayton on the suntimes site.
by larry on Jul 20, 2008 9:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
GStF = not good
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 20, 2008 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was OK
Got it as a gift. Read it in two days, and it was what I expected. Interesting that he supports it, though.
I CAN'T STAND IT.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jul 20, 2008 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why he's the face of sports blogging, i do not know.
there are plenty with more thoroughly considered ideas and better contributions.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah -- GStF was merely okay
there was some funny anecdotal-type stuff in there but it wasn’t anything terribly enlightening, no greater conclusion reached. I’d recommend it (and have) to a couple of my friends, but probably wouldn’t to (most) of the folks on here.
Jim—just ‘cause I’m a bit confused, what did you mean by “interesting that he supports it, though”?
by CWSKeith on Jul 21, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
joe's hard at work
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/1065546,CST-SPT-sdeck21.article
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ozuna working his magic: Dodgers score five in ninth to beat the Diamondbacks
http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/mlb/dodgers/la-sp-dodgers21-2008jul21,0,3466664.story
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 20, 2008 9:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
all about the pinch runners...
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 20, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what does everyone think about this move?
Masset is still starting on Tuesday in place of Contreras. I know Russell has been pretty bad this past week but it’s sort of strange for the Sox to make these quick hooks. Maybe Contreras is worse off than we know and the Sox will eventually start Richard in his place with Masset staying in the bullpen after his initial start on Tuesday?
And I know Larry will rip on me for this one—any possibility that the Sox are showcasing Richard for a trade? It’s great how Carrasco is pitching for the Sox right now but I don’t expect him to keep it up. I wouldn’t have said this two weeks ago but right now that Cubs trade for Harden and Gaudin would look good for the Sox. An extra starter and a good reliever would be huge.
by SSH2005 on Jul 20, 2008 9:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm surprised that Richard is getting the call and will not start.....
I would think he’ll start Tuesday in place of Contreras, not Masset.
by stanchar on Jul 20, 2008 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am probably trusting this Rotoworld.com quote to much...
Nick Masset will start Tuesday in place of the injured Jose Contreras.
The White Sox decided against calling up Lance Broadway or another minor leaguer to start. Masset has a 4.14 ERA and a 1.65 WHIP in one start and 27 relief appearances this season. He’s not recommended in AL-only leagues.
They never source who said that Masset is starting so they could be wrong in their assumption.
by SSH2005 on Jul 20, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, they have called up a minor leaguer if this report is correct.
I CAN'T STAND IT.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jul 20, 2008 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was assuming that Rotoworld posted it because...
Ozzie said something about Masset starting on Tuesday in place on Contreras. Probably a bad assumption.
by SSH2005 on Jul 20, 2008 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Richard is up, he must be starting
Masset logged significant time against KC. They could still decide to start him Tuesday, but I imagine they would limit him to just 3 innings or so (of course, actually making it through 3 innings against Texas would be doubtful…).
Announcer: [A fan] from Frederick, Maryland, wants to know why you don't go out and get some more team speed.
Weaver: Team speed, for Chrissake, you get BLEEP god damn little fleas on the bases getting picked off trying to steal, getting thrown out, taking runs away from you. You get them big BLEEP who can hit the BLEEP ball out of the BLEEP ballpark and you can't make any god damn mistakes.
by hitlesswonder on Jul 20, 2008 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
when the cubs did it, you were talking about how much his health was in question. now it would have been a good deal for the sox?
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 20, 2008 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ends always justify the means, until they don't. Then they never did.
I CAN'T STAND IT.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jul 20, 2008 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not blaming Kenny here...
just saying that it’s funny how quickly things change. Two weeks ago, I would have never thought we would need a Harden and a Gaudin. And right now, it looks like it would be the perfect trade for the Sox in their current situation.
by SSH2005 on Jul 20, 2008 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thinking in retrospect
how novel
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hindsight is a wonderful thing
If I knew then what I know now, I would be on a yacht in the Cayman Islands.
Sox fan from England, marching on together
by hoodlight on Jul 21, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harden's health is still a HUGE question...
but they took a chance on him and we shall see if it pays off. If they didn’t also get Gaudin in the deal, I would have said that it was a bad trade. Two weeks ago would have been a different story but right now Harden and Gaudin would be a god-send.
by SSH2005 on Jul 20, 2008 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, the Cubs seem to be doing everything they can to keep Harden healthy...
I believe he is pitching on six days rest and he isn’t throwing many sliders, just fastballs and changeups.
Anyways, Kenny needs to trade for pitching now. The Sox have changed a lot in two weeks.
by SSH2005 on Jul 20, 2008 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe that's why the brought Richard up?
Try to up that value a bit more with a good start against the best hitting team in baseball. If he does poorly I don’t think anyone would think less of the guy, but if he does well it could go far in upping that trade value. Considering we have very little in the upper minor leagues to trade he could become quite the trading chip.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 21, 2008 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Sox, sadly, couldn't have matched the Cubs offer
The only Gallagher-esque arm (in terms of contract and at or above that talent level) the Sox have is Danks. I’m assuming Floyd’s FIP wouldn’t interest Beane. And the Sox have no Murton or Patterson in the system either. Fields is a good trading chip, but with Barton and Chavez he’s not a great fit for the A’s and I assume he alone wouldn’t be enough for Harden.
It will be hard for the Sox to find a pitcher that significantly improves the rotation or pen without giving up something off the major league roster.
Announcer: [A fan] from Frederick, Maryland, wants to know why you don't go out and get some more team speed.
Weaver: Team speed, for Chrissake, you get BLEEP god damn little fleas on the bases getting picked off trying to steal, getting thrown out, taking runs away from you. You get them big BLEEP who can hit the BLEEP ball out of the BLEEP ballpark and you can't make any god damn mistakes.
by hitlesswonder on Jul 20, 2008 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Sox have enough to acquire a starter...
Larry brought up Maddux, a guy who the Padres will probably be looking to dump if Maddux will agree to a trade. Is there any way that Maddux would look worse than Contreras right about now?
by SSH2005 on Jul 20, 2008 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what are you willing to give up for 12 starts from a 4.21 era in the national league pitching at home in petco?
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 20, 2008 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Cubs traded him away for Cesar Izturis and that was a couple years ago...
The Padres would probably take garbage for him just to dump his pro-rated $10 million dollar contract for the rest of the season. He will be a free agent anyways.
You make a good point though—Maddux’s road ERA this season is 6.27. Ouch.
by SSH2005 on Jul 20, 2008 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the home/road babip difference is insane: .229 v. .355
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 20, 2008 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Surprising
Considering Petco is so big, you would think there would be more soft base hits dropping. Besides homeruns, I’d think Petco would lend itself to more singles / doubles then most parks.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 21, 2008 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it probably does
which is what makes those splits so bizarre
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm torn.
on the one hand, it’s great to get a guy if he doesn’t cost much more than $$$. on the other hand, how big an improvement is he really going to be?
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 20, 2008 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The latter question is most salient.
No tme to start dealing for < half a season’s performance if it is not a significant upgrade.
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no problem with trading for a starter...
after just hearing on the news that Contreras was unable to throw a curveball or a forkball during his last bullpen session due to pain and he didn’t even bother to tell any member of the coaching staff. How many terrible games did he pitch and cost the Sox in a tight division race because he was hiding his injury? Contreras is old and stupid and I wouldn’t mind replacing him with a pitcher who is old and smart ( Maddux ).
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Old, smart, and ineffective is just as stupid.
And enough of the “old” references. IIRC, a month ago Thome was “old”. Looks pretty GD spry to me lately. Contreras wasn’t “old” until his last 4-5 starts. Pick an opinion and at least stand behind it for awhile.
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So how many games did Contreras cost the Sox...
by not being honest about his injury? It is a legitimate question.
And the Sox are only 0.5 games up on the Twins. Bright move by Contreras.
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
It’s a legitimate question, but at the same time, our other options, especially until recently were are all pretty awful. It may have forced us into trading for a starting pitcher although we didn’t have enough for Harden or Sabathia, Blanton isn’t that great either so that doesn’t sound likely either. Bedard is hurt, Wolf isn’t good, Burnett could have been an option I guess.
Assuming the trades were not there to fill his spot, would Broadway, Loaiza or Haeger have done much better? Clayton Richard was not a true option until a few weeks ago. I think in the end it probably didn’t change things much for us.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 21, 2008 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much of an indictment is it on the Sox scouting department...
that the Sox 15th overall pick in 2005 and their 29th overall pick in 2006 don’t even look like options to replace Contreras while he is on the D.L. Pretty sad.
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cry me a river, and tell me it's new
This is old news. We have said for months the farm is fairly barren (until the recent draft). Now, enough “sky is falling” crap and let’s move on. You love the BoSox? They are about .5 game ahead of us. Rays? 2 games. Only the Angels are not looking over their shoulders.
Fer Chrissakes, get a grip, already, my man.
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is baseball...
There are plenty of guys in those ranges who are major league baseball players right now. Big deal.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 21, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn typo's..
Not major league baseball players*
by Grinder in Training on Jul 21, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you should do the math and get back to us
how often do starting pitchers drafted 2-3 years ago after the first 14 picks manage performance levels well above replacement level?
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Contreras wasn’t "old" until his last 4-5 starts.
are we reading the same blog? contreras has been old for a couple years now
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
old wasn't part of the equation when he was doing well, though.
just like when thome had a bad stretch he was old and done, and now that he’s back to almost .900 ops, there hasn’t been a peep regarding his age.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
old wasn’t part of the equation when he was doing well, though.
I think it was part of the equation over the past two years, even when he was doing well
you’re probably right about thome
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just don't remember people grousing about jose being old when he was pitching well for that early stretch.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which was my point - though it must be constantly lurking
in the minds of the “non-old”. Over the side with him!
Of course, when he gets off the DL and perhaps regains his form he might not be referred to as “old”. Someone is “old” only when they stop performing.
Crede’s arm is “old”. Yesterday Danks became “old” quickly. PK is …well, every now and again someone really is “old”.
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know it was your point.
but since you were too busy getting your “just for me” on, i thought i’d help you out and explain it for you.
btw, if konerko really IS old, and he’s 32, what does that make you? downright methuselahic?
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just for men, not me, dammit
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You were right the first time! LOL.
And PK may have aged more like Sexton/Pronk than Thomer or Maddux. Just guessing.
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember comments like
‘he’s good now but he still is 900 years old and I fear the eventual breakdown’
maybe they were figments of my imagination and I’m whining!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm sure you're right that there were some.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In general...
younger is better in the MLB. How many good 36 (cough, cough) year old pitchers are there in the MLB? And how good pitchers are around 30 years old or younger?
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That means an 18 y/o is FANTASTIC!
Depends. Give me a sport where younger is not better. Poker? NASCAR? No, a real sport…Anything that requires fast twitch muscles, hand/eye coordination, etc. skews to the younger.
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
curling?
:p
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bowling?
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
brilliant analysis
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get off my nuts, onlysoxfaninboston...
Either that or teabag me and finish the job.
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was justified
(no sarcasm)
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get a room, already.
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i want to know how the entire staff was unable to detect from mechanics, velocity, or just results, that the guy wasn't right.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Don Cooper isn't really all that and a bag of chips...
maybe he is just the bag of chips.
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
SSH on Thornton/Borchard trade
“If Don Cooper manages to fix this bum and help him find the strike zone, he will be up there with Leo Mazzone”
by SSH2005 on Mar 20, 2006 6:05 PM ESTHe was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't ripping Cooper...
Just throwing it out there. Toonerstrook is right and it is kind of strange that Cooper wouldn’t recognize that something was wrong with Contreras with the way he has been pitching. No one is perfect at their job.
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd bet they recognized something was "wrong"
i think we all did, even if it was just the superficial analysis of results. however, seeing that something is wrong and knowing/figuring out what that something is can be kinda tricky. especially when you have a player lying to you. see, e.g., macdougal, mike circa 2007.
by larry on Jul 21, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you just called him a bag of chips
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I meant that he eats a lot of bags of chips.
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't understand your fuckspeak
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL.
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i can't take credit for that
but i can’t disclose either, toonder will be upset
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i appreciate it. i think reardonmettle is in the same boat too.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought you were early on in the wire as well. if not, my bad.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, he's just an idiot
trying to process all of this is tough
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I haven't
I’m in the second season. I can’t believe they changed the theme song. I’ve got a flight to the Vegas on Wednesday, so I’ll watch more then. And between now and then.
by reardenmettle on Jul 21, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
same song, just not the blind boys doing it in season 2.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know it's the same song. It just sucks now.
by reardenmettle on Jul 21, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the season 2 version is solid
thereafter it gets…worse. much worse.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you haven't finished the wire, right?
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we need another wire thread yo
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
start it up
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Admittedly
I have been watching BSG instead of focusing on The Wire
by reardenmettle on Jul 21, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well..
It’s not like Jose doesn’t have a history of being terrible when healthy too though. He goes through bad streches where his mechanics and performance are just awful and that is when he isn’t hurt. He has numerous arm angles that he throws from, numerous pitches and is apparently a head case.
Compared to most guys I imagine he’s a bit more difficult to figure out when he is hurt or bad.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 21, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought in the past he's relied on certain arm angles and shied away from others based on health issues.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sounds like this pitching stuff
is pretty hard
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is not as alarmist as you might thimk, IMO.
Who asked Esteban how much he had thrown the previous week or two before he was signed? Who was supposed to know if Carrasco was out of options? Who was watching Wilder as he was allegedly skimming and money laundering? Who was watching Count break down before Count himself copped to being hurt? Maybe these are all unrelated, but it’s raised questions in my mind re: the due diligence in management.
Somebody has to be minding the store.
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
minding the store?
JR outsourced that to india!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to Rosenthal, Maddux available to West Coast teams only
“Greg Maddux only wants to be traded to a West Coast team. He might accept a trade back to the Dodgers, if Ned Colletti and Kevin Towers want to go down that road.”
Randy Wolf might be an option, but not a good one.
Announcer: [A fan] from Frederick, Maryland, wants to know why you don't go out and get some more team speed.
Weaver: Team speed, for Chrissake, you get BLEEP god damn little fleas on the bases getting picked off trying to steal, getting thrown out, taking runs away from you. You get them big BLEEP who can hit the BLEEP ball out of the BLEEP ballpark and you can't make any god damn mistakes.
by hitlesswonder on Jul 21, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
pablo ozuna?
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure someone already posted this...
but it is great news.
Jermaine Dye is day-to-day after coming out of Sunday’s game with a bruised left knee.
“I don’t expect him to play tomorrow. He got hit pretty good, hopefully it might only take a couple of days,” manager Ozzie Guillen said. Brian Anderson could start in right field on Monday.
Didn’t Dye break his leg fouling a pitch off of his shin back when he was with the A’s?
by SSH2005 on Jul 20, 2008 10:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Um no not happy.
Hes been our best hitter for the last month. Im not happy seeing his 141 OPS+ on the bench.
…and there is nothing like my dad’s egg sandwiches! - Nick Swisher
by omnipotent grab on Jul 20, 2008 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lemonade, grabbie one. lemonade.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 20, 2008 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can it be pink?
…and there is nothing like my dad’s egg sandwiches! - Nick Swisher
by omnipotent grab on Jul 20, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
absolutely.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 20, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome.
…and there is nothing like my dad’s egg sandwiches! - Nick Swisher
by omnipotent grab on Jul 20, 2008 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope that Monday or Tuesday is rained out
or for some reason they push back Richard’s start because I am going to be there Wednesday.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Jul 21, 2008 1:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am not too excited to see Richard face the Rangers...
he has the advantage of facing a very lefty lineup but the fact that he doesn’t strike out many batters doesn’t bode well considering he is facing the #1 offense in baseball.
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I assume that Loaiza will be released...
to make room for Clayton Richard on the 40-man roster. Dewon Day would be another candidate but since Loaiza is old and bad, he will be the one released.
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 8:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Shocking news from the north side...
“Cubs closer Wood appears bound for DL with lingering blister”
He is a walking disease.
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 8:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Should have added Street while they were swindling the Athletics.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 21, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade Rumor
SI claims the Sox are after Huston Street
by joewho112 on Jul 21, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could see the Rays as a more likely suitor
Looks like our starters, if Robert is healthy, might be a priority.
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has Rays' management
said anything about there willingness to add salary/trade prospects?
by joewho112 on Jul 21, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they've said they are more than willing to do what it takes to win.
take that for whatever it means.
by larry on Jul 21, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You often hear management telling their fan base and the rest of the world
they are NOT willing, or less than willing, to do what it takes to win, right? Which is why that quote is so informative…
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you hear plenty of teams that say they will stand pat. see, e.g., st. louis cardinals.
by larry on Jul 21, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's only if they think they can win with who they have, or are so far out of it that no one cares.
Few teams do the “white flag” if somewhat in contention. And if they do, they are crucified forever anon. (Not sure if I can come up with an example that hits close to home.)
Cards are on record as saying they are competitive now, IIRC.
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
which their manager disagrees with.
the rays are on record as saying they’re exploring moves. the cardinals aren’t even doing that. yes, it’s all rhetoric at the end of the day and it’s silly for us to be debating it. but the rays are going to be players at the deadline.
by larry on Jul 21, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you believe what you just wrote?
Amazing how things have changed.
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
chuck lamar leaving was part of the change i would think
Herc: Its got nothing to do with sex. Its about sympathy; its about giving a guy a break.
Carver: Yeah OK
Herc: Gus Triandos
Carver: Who is Gus Triandos?
Herc: He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years. The worst gig in baseball, it was like trying to catch a greased pig with wings. He even told a reporter once, Wilhelm nearly ruined me. Gus Triandos. Big, slow guy.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn, gotta shorten that sig
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey. no more extended wire references without warning. only beginning season 3.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
one of the highlights of season 3
is the dialogue b/w herk and carver, great stuff
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can't wait.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
THT dartboard has the Sox at #3
Run prevention was mentioned in the brief blurb. What statistics are used to summarize team run prevention? Thanks.
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 10:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
they mentioned run prevention unit. i'm gonna go with everyone but thome being part of that unit.
by larry on Jul 21, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
misread, sorry.
even still, what stats are typically used to evaluate run prevention?
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
runs allowed is the most basic and, frankly, over the course of a season the best. sometimes the most obvious is that.
you could look at defensive efficiency ratio if you want to drill down some. (BFP-H-K-BB-HBP-Errors)/(BFP-HR-K-BB-HBP).
by larry on Jul 21, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay, that's what i thought
DER and runs allowed, didn’t know if there was another major stat, but thanks for breaking down DER.
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Jeff Cox is part of that, too
Wow, we’re only #3? Season’s over. Porous as hell, we are.
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
twinkie doodling
This trio does not possess lights out "stuff" nor do they fire the ball past hitters with plus-fastballs. Instead, they limit their baserunners and have been quite adept at stranding those that do happen to reach base. Baker has been better at this than his two colleagues, stranding 82.4% of runners, a number behind only John Lackey at the top of the AL leaderboard. A number like this certainly isn’t expected to be sustained, so his performance from here on out will likely hinge upon just how far that rate drops.
...
Their strikeout to walk ratios are not expected to be as high as we have seen thus far but are not likely to plummet all the way down towards J.C. Romero-ville. Lastly, their BABIPs are all either on the average or right around the corner so they haven’t necessarily been of extreme benefit in that department.Here are their numbers this year, followed by what can be expected from here on out:
Scott Baker (now): 3.99 FIP, 1.16 WHIP, 4.86 K/BB, 1.52 BB/9
Scott Baker (2nd): 3.90 FIP, 1.26 WHIP, 3.08 K/BB, 2.13 BB/9Nick Blackburn (now): 3.86 FIP, 1.27 WHIP, 3.56 K/BB, 1.37 BB/9
Nick Blackburn (2nd): 3.93 FIP, 1.29 WHIP, 2.58 K/BB, 2.16 BB/9Kevin Slowey (now): 3.98 FIP, 1.13 WHIP, 4.69 K/BB, 1.42 BB/9
Kevin Slowey (2nd): 4.12 FIP, 1.19 WHIP, 3.00 K/BB, 2.13 BB/9Their projections from here on out are calling for higher walk rates which in turn raises the WHIP and lowers the K/BB. This means more baserunners will reach and their barometric success (such as ERA) will be determined by an ability to strand them. There are plenty of "if’s" that must be met for the Twins to sustain their success and have a legitimate shot at winning the division, but I don’t consider it to be out of reach.
by larry on Jul 21, 2008 11:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
differences between now and second half projections aren't that significant
for FIP and WHIP, that bodes well for their pitching, no?
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
for those po' folks out there
this week is a free preview of baseball prospectus. so go read.
by larry on Jul 21, 2008 11:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
When I clicked on Sheehan's 2nd half projections
It was behind the pay firewall. Maybe the freebie expired?
Thx anyway.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jul 21, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From July 21st through 27th, Baseball Prospectus is throwing the doors open! If you’ve always been curious what’s behind the pay curtain, it’s time to announce our annual free peek into everything we’ve got in terms of our content mix, as well as Nate Silver’s PECOTA cards. So if you’re a non-subscriber who wants to see what you’re missing, or just somebody who wants to tuck into some good baseball content, come on in and enjoy the show, because we aim to please.
are the PECOTA cards “new content”?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
does it matter?
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well not for me perhaps
it’s nice i have access and can explore this week
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
more twinkie doodling
but without thoughtful analysis from today’s times
one interesting tidbit was this on liriano’s agent filing a union grievance:
The rotation has been so strong that the Twins say they have no room for Francisco Liriano, the 2006 sensation who missed last season after having reconstructive elbow surgery. Liriano, 8-0 at Class AAA Rochester since late May, has allowed one earned run while winning his last four starts. His agent, Greg Genske, filed a union grievance last week, accusing the Twins of limiting Liriano’s service time so he will not be eligible for arbitration next year.
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 11:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
cowley
Clayton Richard, c’mon down!http://twitter.com/cst_sox/statuses/864159115
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 12:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you're welcome larry!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
twitter has really allowed him to shine.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Old news but it is definitely Clayton Richard starting on Tuesday and not Masset...
http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/probable_pitchers.jsp?c_id=cws
And Buehrle is scheduled to pitch Wednesday. He just had a death in his family—his grandfather passed away.
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 12:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
so now who loses the 40 man roster roulette?
by larry on Jul 21, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I right click
and my computer just asks me if I want to copy the image.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 21, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about clicking this?
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2007/Mar-30-Fri-2007/photos/esteban.jpg
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or reading
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very good post
When you focus on bringing wit and sunshine to the site you are entertaining like The Lord. When whining about how badly we reek (as if we are still watchin the 2007 Sox) you are entertaining like The Devil.
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I just can't stand watching my favorite team...
blow wins against a crappy team like the Royals when the Twinkies are up their ass.
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but it's baseball
these things happen literally all the time.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not figuratively? Literally?
O..M..G..
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
your ellipsis is 2/3 the required length
maybe that’s just something you’re used to, ifyouknowwhatimean
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
three and a half inches of hard blue steel?
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
let the sad bastard round up if you want.
but you’re 1/6 an inch off the mark
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had to look that up
Pretty persnickity, colin. You’re better than that. But I bet it’s because you are just waking up.
;)
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Au contrare
I’ve been good to go since 11:30
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but when did the Cubs blow wins against the Royals and Twinks?
I’m so confused…
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jul 21, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
iDEFINITELYseewhatyoudidthere.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how did you survive the lean years prior to '05? rubber room and straitjacket?
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most frustrating reliever ever?
35 strikeouts in 27.2 innings pitched… along with 33 hits and 18 walks for a crowd-pleasing 5.53 ERA. If only this guy had some control and didn’t get behind in the count all the time.
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 12:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So with this free BP access, you guys should get some
questions in the queue for Kevin Goldstein’s chat tomorrow. So far I threw in two, one about Brandon Allen and the other about Kent Gerst.
If you’re too lazy to do it yourself, just comment and I’ll do it under some pseudonym (I try not to ask too many questions; the ones I do ask seem to get answered, so I’m doing something write)
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 1:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
doing something write? iseewhatyoudidthere.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whackity shmackity doooooo
that was actually an accident, if you can believe it.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
questions only pertaining to prospects?
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's his expertise
he also takes questions about japanese video games and 80’s Albini-approved noise-rock
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
rapeman???
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh goody! ;-)
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I once saw Big Black live
my ears have never recovered
Sox fan from England, marching on together
by hoodlight on Jul 21, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
an old punk rocker in the house
in england? there were a few years before my time. but i have seen shellac a bunch. do you know rhys chatham? i never forget to bring plugs after his show.
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they weren't really punk rockers
came along in that wave along with the Butthole Surfers, early Sonic Youth, etc. Albini always said they were punks but they were a bit too accomplished for that label. I used to listen to all that stuff.
As for Rhys Chatham, never heard of him, but am setting the Blue Frog to work to get some stuff.
regards
Sox fan from England, marching on together
by hoodlight on Jul 21, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
labels suck
and depends on what you make of it, if its about breaking barriers, sy, buttholes, and big black fit right in. i agree generally with what you say though
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you’re too lazy to do it yourself, just comment
url please?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so, I submit a comment, say ‘beckham needs a haircut’, and you can ask a question tomorrow under that username?
is username ‘colin the gray’ ok?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, you just fill in any name you want with the question and they take the question
it’s just a form, not a login.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
either post the question here or click my name and e-mail it to me
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
?
dude, i asked the questions i wanted to ask. it’s on you guys now.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
collective brain scan of this site today indicates activity of _____________________________________
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Poster 1: Dude. WTF?
Poster 2: What?
Poster 1: That’s what I thought.
Me: I must be in Rhodesia, as I comprehend nothing today.
BTW, I just found out I will be attending the 8/13 Sox game (some sky box – not sure where). Anyone else plan on being at the Sox/Royals game that night? If so, let me know and I will buy you a beer (or two) since I can’t be at the Kenwo event earlier in the month.
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what do you mean today?
it’s everyday aby!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
add a b there
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
abyb?
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jul 21, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
in the beginning
illiteracy is out of control!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mark gonzales
The Sox made the formal announcement later Monday regarding Richard, saying they purchased his contract from Charlotte to take the roster spot of reliever Adam Russell. He could possibly start Tuesday night against Texas.http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2008/07/richard-off-usa.htmlRichard, who will wear No. 54, won all six of his starts at Triple-A Charlotte and pitched in the Futures Game July 13 at Yankee Stadium.
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To make room for Richard on the 40-man roster, the Sox transferred left-handed pitcher Andrew Sisco ( from the 15-day to the 60-day disabled list.
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 1:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sisco to the 60-day D.L. is a move that I believe Larry or Cheat were talking about in the past...
Surprising to see the Sox keeping Loaiza around if he is still throwing below 80 MPH.
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what team doesn't need a tim wakefield without the movement or novelty?
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We don't need two Wakefield's...
We already have Haeger.
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
until there are better options
they might as well. they can navigate around loaiza at this stage in the game. if there’s a trade, that could make things different and make esteban unnecessary.
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by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Richard's BP minor league translation
So maybe he can be our left-handed, more groundball oriented Nick Blackburn. That hit rate is due to rise, though. Same with the walk rate.
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by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sox facing Eric Hurley tonight...
and they have never faced him before, right?
Dadgummit.
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 1:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
patience my young padawan!
yoda shall answer in his BUO!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I miss JRE
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saw this posted at SoxTalk...
Ken Rosenthal on Fox yesterday was saying the Dodgers talks with the White Sox for OC, I thought he was going to say Uribe, went nowhere.
Interesting. Imagine if they were offering Kemp.
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 1:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not surprised that went nowhere
But, theoretically, you could slide Alexei over, call up Getz, send Konerko to the bench and slide Swisher to first.
...that is not cost effective. nor something you can do to your captain. andy laroche would make more sense and it would free up fields for a trade. fields and poreda for street! everything’s coming up millhouse!
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by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or...
Kemp could play CF and Swisher could move to 1B with Konerko on the bench.
But Konerko won’t be seeing the bench until he is no longer on the White Sox.
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Getz / Richar playing 2B, of course.
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
isn't that what i said?
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by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude.
WTF?
;)
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by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but... but...
Who would play lead off??
I believe in Harvey, Illinois
by Hazymania on Jul 21, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that joke has run its course.
Unless Jerry Owens finds his way back on the team.
…and there is nothing like my dad’s egg sandwiches! - Nick Swisher
by omnipotent grab on Jul 21, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
spoil sport
neener
I believe in Harvey, Illinois
by Hazymania on Jul 21, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Added Jim's video clip (4:02) of Richard at the top
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 2:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
so, is tonight's start still at 7:11 or did it move to 7:35 like the s-t said?
http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/1065001,072008sptsoxnb.article
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lance Armstrong and Elizabeth Edwards are taping a cancer awareness thing...
And a big crowd scene is part of it, so if they started (taping) at 6:30 there’d be no crowd. This way, they’ll tape at 7:00 and delay the game ‘till 7:30 or so.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jul 21, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wooo I'm gonna be in the teevee
Property of: PAUL KONERKO Track and Field Academy & Steakhouse
by thecip on Jul 21, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And this thing will eventually air on all networks.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jul 21, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All you have to do is...act naturally.
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and don't forget your cell phone! and to wave!
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jul 21, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sheryl Crow is performing for our firm the 11th of next month
I prefer to get my Lance jones directly from her.
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
eew. do you know who's been in that?
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by Chiburb on Jul 21, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
God (Clapton).
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by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
god is a guitarist still riding the coattails of his time in cream and blind faith?
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you forget the Michelob commercial's version of "After Midnight"? Or Tears from Heaven?
POS. God is timeless. Tell me what the real God has created worth a tinker’s damn since Genesis? Does that make him less than God? (Inhales deeply.)
;)
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by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the least the guy could do after letting his kid fall out of his high-rise window was to write a popular ballad.
no points for that one. and anything associated with michelob = epic fial.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ooh. You tough, aby.
Tommy Lee I can understand dissing. But God?
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clapton is the guitar playing version of Pat Boone
ripping off the pioneering work of the brothers, and making it palatable for the white suburbanite.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jul 21, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, I expect that from Tonndergoof, but someone of the peer group?
Hatchet day. Everyone pissed off today. Gotta be the heat.
(Chi, why when “the brothers” do it it’s called “sampling”, but if rock is derived from the blues (I’m jammin’ with Buddy Guy in my car at present) it is called “ripping off”? You OPOS.
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by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm talkin' old brothers, not the samplers.
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by Chiburb on Jul 21, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You gotta get Junior Kimbrough "You Better Run"
My buddy and I were listening to it on the way to work out Saturday. We were laughing all the way to the “Y”. Absolutely hysterical picture on the CD front and back covers. “Tramp” is genius.
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by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not the only celeb, T-der, with kid supervision issues
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,388221,00.html (interesting timing) in light of your post)
When you have kids, stuff happens all the time. Might not be his fault.
You. Cockroach.
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by winningugly on Jul 22, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hannah montana already booked?
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Passe. Demi Lovato is the flavor du jour.
Besides, this ain’t Disney. Bonnie Raitt is 3 nights later, so you can tell it’s out financial planning firm, not DIS. Old music, dude.
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by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the wu & company summer music suckstrvaganza?
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dependzalooza
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by Chiburb on Jul 21, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't pick 'em.
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by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
trib explains it
is there an rss feed for the trib’s white sox section?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is sarcasm right?
http://blogs.suntimes.com/fullcourtpress/2008/07/joe-cool.html
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 2:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
either that or takes a shitbag to know one...
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 21, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone want 3 free tickets to tonights game?
Seats aren’t great (535 row 10) but they are free.
I promised the lady a night and I forgot I had these seats, don’t like having them go to waste. You’d have to be able to meet me around the loop (preferably Clark/Lake area) at ~6 tonight.
by chrome on Jul 21, 2008 3:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
koz8484 (Chicago): What can I expect from Clayton Richards, and what kind of ceiling does he have?
Will Carroll: I saw him play in one of the craziest HS football games ever. He had a MASSIVE line facing off with a smallish Zionsville line and a crazy wind. The coach from his HS was so in love with his arm that he tried to throw going into the wind and they ended up losing when they could have run for five or six on every play.
As for his pitching, he’s good, not great, but really developed in college. I like him and like him in that organization. I could see him as a solid 4 starter as early as next year.
by larry on Jul 21, 2008 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If Richard could be a solid #4 starter, he would basically be Contreras.
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
when Contreras isn't crapping himself and clamoring for more applesauce, anyway
we do have a solid history with Coop and lefties though.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and cotts and sisco.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, I think you need a hummer today more than any white man I know
Lose a case recently? (Sorry to be rhetorical.)
;)
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by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i cannot lose cases right now. i am on the deciding cases team.
i’m just feisty from too much caffeine and creatine.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're the Decider?
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by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
solid = perfect?
or am i missing the point?
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you can't be perfect, you're pathetic.
by larry on Jul 21, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
practice makes prefect!
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jul 21, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Winning two of three isn't perfect...
Jump on someone else’s nuts.
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm fairly certain i was trampling on toonder's testicles there.
by larry on Jul 21, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
with one foot. seems like you never took the other off ssh's nuts.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was meant in jest (at first).
but now that i look at it, here are all of the lefties to pitch for the white sox since cooper’s first full season as pitching coach. how many of these can be qualified as cooper successes?
buehrle (2004-08): ~1017 innings
danks (2007-08): ~257 innings
—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—
cotts (2004-06): ~170 innings/195 appearances (bad ‘04, great ‘05, bad ‘06)
thornton (2006-08): ~149 innings/174 appearances (good ‘06, bad ‘07, good ‘08)
marte (2004-05): ~118 innings/140 appearances (decent both years, but better numbers pre-coop)
logan (2006-08): ~101 innings (bad in 21 appearance in ‘06, bad in 68 appearances in ‘07, good ‘08)
sisco (2007): ~14 innings/19 appearances
—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-——-
munoz (2004): ~14 innings
stewart (2004): ~7 innings
phillips (2007): ~7 innings
walker (2005): ~7 innings
wunsch (2004): ~2 innings
sanders (2004): ~ 2 innings
darensbourg (2004): ~1 inning
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing...
Eric Hurley won’t come off the DL to start Monday as planned, the Dallas Morning News reports.
Hurley, who hasn’t pitched since June 29 because of a strained hamstring, was originally slated to start Saturday, but he got pushed back two days. Now he’s going to be replaced by Scott Feldman tonight.Source: Dallas Morning News
Is Feldman the guy with the funky delivery and good breaking stuff?
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 3:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I went to his Bar Mitzvah in 1970.
If it’s the guy I’m thinking about he’s easy.
The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
by winningugly on Jul 21, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More experimental back in '70 eh?
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
considering what you posted earlier re: facing hurley, it must be a good thing, right?
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me thinks it is...
I was remembering Feldman being some Neshek-like pitcher with no fastball, a funky delivery, and a nasty breaking ball.
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't the Sox struggle a ton against pitchers with good curveballs (i.e. Thome, Konerko, Swisher...)?
Sox bats, they are sick. They cannot hit curveball. Straightball they hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. Sox ask Jobu to come, take fear from bats. Sox offer him cigar, rum. He will come.
by SSH2005 on Jul 21, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Feldman v. RHB
so i assume that’s the guy you’re thinking of. i’ve never heard of the guy. how’d he get so many pitches in the db?
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the db doesn't go back that far, right? he's thrown almost 90 innings this year, although only 44+ in june/july.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
db is yearly. so this year's tool is for '08 and last year's should have only '07 stuff.
pretty sure on that.
and 50 IP is usually enough to get ~ 500 pitches. that’s a decent number.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 21, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
jerome holtzman passed away
info here
i had no idea this guy invented the save statistic. here’s an old THT article examining the impact of the save.
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.