I feel better about the Twins
by The Wizard on Jul 21, 2008 3:43 PM CDT
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Twins general manager Bill Smith, on Livan Hernandez, who improved to 10-6 with a 5.29 earned-run average with Saturday's victory over Texas: "I'll take the (10) wins. Who do you want, a guy who's 10-15 with a 2.80 ERA or a guy who's 16-8 with a 7.00 ERA? I'll take the 16-8."
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that quote kind of makes sense.
i’ll take the wins, too. considering he’s talking about 16-8 and 10-15, that sure as shit sounds like a full season. i get why they’re going off on him, though. you don’t want that guy going forward.
no it doesn't
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
I'll take the 2.80 ERA over the 7.00
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
i won't. i'll take the wins. i'll take a whole fucking staff of pitchers with 7+ ERAs if they all have 16 wins. they don't give playoff spots for ERA.
the problem, of course, is that he’s apparently attributing to the pitcher the skill of the hitters in overcoming the ERA.
forgot the 'get off my lawn'
he says “Who do you want, a guy who’s … or a guy who’s …“
if I get to chose between a guy with a ‘10-15 with a 2.80 ERA’ and a guy with a ‘16-8 with a 7.00 ERA’ I’ll choose the first guy
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
title correction: you forgot the 'get off my lawn'
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
and you'd still be wrong
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
that doesn't change who's a better pitcher
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
still no change
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
would you take a team with a team era of 7 and 100 wins or a team with an era of 2.80 and 60 wins?
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
2.80 everyday of the week and twice on tuesdays
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
You are interested in stats that
pan out in the long run. In the long run, we’re all dead, Wiz. You take the “W”’s for this season and worry about regression to the mean next season. As long as you can tradethe guy with the ERA of 7.
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The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.
my attempt to make this clearer = epic fial
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
You did fine, Wiz = fial.
…and there is nothing like my dad’s egg sandwiches! - Nick Swisher
by omnipotent grab on Jul 21, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
clearly
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
he's mixing everything up.
a situation where the same lineup is hitting in support of two pitchers, and one ended up 10-15 with a 2.80 era while the other was 16-8 with a 7.00, would make bp’s computers blow up.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
and the other doesn't exist.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
those 1888 detroit wolverines were sure fun to watch
me: [Prince] Fielder, YOU SUCK
Mattee115: what'd he do?
me: Ran to tag out Pie at first but got beat
and it woulda ended the inning
Mattee115: i never thought he'd get out run by a pie
by whitesoxmatt on Jul 21, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
who is the me in that sentence?
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
maybe he was just trying to drive up livan's trade value.......
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
that's the primary reason there's no reason to snark that to death
the Twins deserve the benefit of the doubt at this point, whatever their track record with Nick Punto says.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
more FJM 'AL Central' material
Jeff Passan: Royals Are Locks To Win The AL Central
http://www.firejoemorgan.com/2008/07/jeff-passan-royals-are-locks-to-win-al.html
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
i've decided that livan hernandez is to seamheads what adam dunn is to old sports journalists.
bete noir. not a perfect comparison, of course, considering their “actual” respective values. but both sides seem to underestimate the value of each. part of that, of course, has to do with the continued inability of said seamheads to figure out what the fuck replacement level actually is.
so what is it then?
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
baseball is too hard :(
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
so did that go unargued at the time? '06 was well before my script
VORP takes a group of easily measured players and guesses at the degree to which they are better than the dregs, whereas FAT actually measures the dregs, right? if that summary is close, i know which i prefer. i’d want something more rigorous than Nate offered up there, but so would he. nice link though.
and that sort of helps my argument about finding second basemen, no?
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
it should matter less for the Twins and Sox, who have pretty specific aims now
which is “be better than that team”
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
Temporarily backing off the ledge
After this weekend’s suckfest with KC, I was feeling as though the Sox 1st place reign was going to slip away in a big way by month’s end. While I still think “The Piranhas” are likely to bite the Sox in the ass and pass them by (for the time being), it should hopefully only be by a game or two based on the upcoming schedule. Those 4 games in Minnesota are likely to be a mess.
My predictions based on many hours of statistical data analysis…
Piranhas
3 at Yankees – win 1
3 at Clevelend – win 2
4 vs. Sox – win 3 (ouch)
Sox
3 vs. TX – win 2
3 at Detroit – win 2
3 at Piranhas – win 1
Not good news, but not terrible news…fingers crossed for a strong finish.
Anyone have word on JD’s condition?
"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)
Make that 4 in MN...(must remember to preview)
"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)
he's day to day
but nothing new so far, afaik
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
Thanks. Hopefully it looked worse that it is.
Didn’t Mark Buehrle once fracture his foot and was amazingly able to make his next start?
Perhaps Dr. Herm puts something special in the team’s Gatorade.
"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)
foot/toe injuries are pretty strange
anecdotally, it seems like you can break shit and barely notice as easily as you can stub something and be out for a week.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
lanolin.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 21, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Road trips
The Twins have two long road trips in the second half, playing something like 24 out of 30 on the road at one point. If the Sox play well (at least as well as they did in the first half), then I like their chances. Wouldn’t hurt for the Yankees to sweep them…
Optimist
actual info!
and i like that a lot better. probably means he’ll get a session with Coop now. though a day game against the Rangers is going to be a tough proposition. i’d rather our better pitchers get the game that doesn’t seem entirely up to the whims of BABIP and heat stroke.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
shadows are fucking sneaky
i’m always forgetting them.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
it's 'joe cool' now
:p
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
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