Game 101: Gamethread #3

Weaver: Team speed, for Chrissake, you get BLEEP god damn little fleas on the bases getting picked off trying to steal, getting thrown out, taking runs away from you. You get them big BLEEP who can hit the BLEEP ball out of the BLEEP ballpark and you can't make any god damn mistakes.

by hitlesswonder on Jul 23, 2008 4:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

eh.

What’s one more ulcer.

Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN

by gafferland on Jul 23, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can we bring back Richard to face Hamilton?

Maybe he’s giving tips in the dugout.

The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.

by winningugly on Jul 23, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jesus, Jenks...

0 – 2 and then you walk him? WTF?

by SSH2005 on Jul 23, 2008 4:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Fucking Fuck

by Crede's Crew on Jul 23, 2008 4:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh Bobby

No doubt enjoys the collective heart rate of Sox fans rising..

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 23, 2008 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Adrenaline boys, closers are

The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.

by winningugly on Jul 23, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did they make that switch mid at-bat?

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 23, 2008 4:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

good pitch, way out in front

by madvillian on Jul 23, 2008 4:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

easy pop to cf

by madvillian on Jul 23, 2008 4:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Sox fans..on your feet

by Crede's Crew on Jul 23, 2008 4:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

2 outs?

The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.

by winningugly on Jul 23, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

too much yankee stadium for me I guess

by Crede's Crew on Jul 23, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This ballgame is ova!!!

by Crede's Crew on Jul 23, 2008 4:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

WINNAR

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 23, 2008 4:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Sweeeeeet

Be gone, Texans.

by the wolf on Jul 23, 2008 4:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

that is a very satisfying victory

by madvillian on Jul 23, 2008 4:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yep, on so many levels

1. Gain game on MN
2. Even w/ Detroit
3. Series victory
4. Comeback win
5. HR off Wilson

by Crede's Crew on Jul 23, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Carlos Quentin would homer off his own Grandma, and then stare her down

by Rockraines on Jul 23, 2008 4:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

and then help her cross the street

Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room !

by explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit on Jul 23, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess that D-back trade was decent, eh? I wasn't sure.

The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.

by winningugly on Jul 23, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Khris Carter is awesum!!

by Crede's Crew on Jul 23, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"mute" issue, Carlos?

Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN

by gafferland on Jul 23, 2008 4:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i heard moot!

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 23, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Peace out broskis

by Crede's Crew on Jul 23, 2008 4:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I think the real hero was that Bloodsport GIF. Epic.

Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN

by gafferland on Jul 23, 2008 4:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

A+ gif

would watch on loop again

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 23, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I do it for you people, I really do

Parroting things that were done by other people on the Internet is tough work, reading FIAL 30 times in a thread makes it all worth it.

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 23, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

wow, i leave to go pick up a burger and Q gets his awesome on

I thought that DP he grounded into was the clincher. he’s so fucking good.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 23, 2008 4:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

un-fucking-believable!!!

"Baseball is 90% mental -- the other half is physical."

by thekever on Jul 23, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Very awesome win.

almost as awesome as the Bloodsport gif.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 23, 2008 4:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

we didn't even need rally pooper trooper

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 23, 2008 4:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Two questions...

Why did Milton Bradley not bat in the 9th? (Was he hurt from the HBP earlier?) and…

HOW WAS Q’s BAT FLIP? Missed it in the 8th!

GO SOX!!!

"Baseball is 90% mental -- the other half is physical."

by thekever on Jul 23, 2008 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

wtf happend ya'll, been busy at work like i should be RECAP please

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 23, 2008 4:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Here's your recap...

by CWSKeith on Jul 23, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

OMG WAAAAY TOO BIG

sorry ya’ll.

by CWSKeith on Jul 23, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

so you're saying carlos is a drag queen.

i do not avoid women, gafferland.

by larry on Jul 23, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Both teams played hard my man, God bless and good night

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 23, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i think i might have to watch the replay of this one

DRAMA!!! ACTION!! SUSPENSE!! Q!!

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by thecip on Jul 23, 2008 4:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

so

who’s ready for a manager gets ejected and fires up team process story?

i do not avoid women, gafferland.

by larry on Jul 23, 2008 4:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Cowley will be all over it.

by SSH2005 on Jul 23, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

too late with that prediction.

i do not avoid women, gafferland.

by larry on Jul 23, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Merkin. Big time.

The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.

by winningugly on Jul 23, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tribune already covered the "when Ozzie is mad the Sox win" angle today

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 23, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ozzie got ejected, sorry i didn't follow the game

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 23, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

??

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 23, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Q! approaching the mythical .300 ISO and .100 IsoD

by madvillian on Jul 23, 2008 4:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

can you explain what that means?

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 23, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he'll be assumed into heaven shortly.

i do not avoid women, gafferland.

by larry on Jul 23, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha

so i googled it, because i’m not lazy for once, so:

IsoD equals OBP minus AVG
ISO = (2B + (3B2) + (HR3)) / AB

so for IsoD, it means that OBP is pretty fucking high. not sure what to make of the ISO and how it relates to IsoD

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 23, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i've never seen that definition of ISO, btw

i don’t know why you would weight triples like that, either. a triple is basically a double plus some speed and luck. no reason to weight that when you’re assessing pure power. in fact it makes more sense to count triples as doubles.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 23, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's the original definition, newbie.

i do not avoid women, gafferland.

by larry on Jul 23, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

coined by whom exactly?

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 23, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

a dead white guy, i'm sure.

i do not avoid women, gafferland.

by larry on Jul 23, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sure

IsoD is a good way to determine how patient (as well as how many times he gets plunked in Q’s case) a hitter is and ISO is a good method to determine how much raw power a guy has.

ISO is just SLG minus AVG (filters out the singles) and ISOD is just OBP minus AVG (filters out the hits as part of OBP)

Average relies on quite a bit of variance (read: luck) from year to year, but a guy with a .300 ISO and a .100 IsoD is just a damn good hitter who is patient and drives the baseball hard and far.

by madvillian on Jul 23, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh, you beat me to it, thanks!

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 23, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

would adam dunn and jim aw shucks thome fall into this category (perhaps not this year but in previous)?

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 23, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

oui

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 23, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

.300 ISO is basically the pinnacle of power

there were just 4 in all of MLB who posted that over a full season in 2007, 9 in 2006 and 4 in 2005. Q is currently 16th among those qualified according to fangraphs with .257. That’s as of yesterday. 2 bombs in one game is going to help that figure. It’ll probably be enough to pass Mike Jacobs for 15th. Q, as of now, has well above average power.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 23, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

.271 according to ESPN

by madvillian on Jul 23, 2008 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

more IsoD

spreadsheet sorted by IsoD. i got the group of 35 by first sorting fangraphs the last 3 calendar years, then sorting by best OBP. so those are the best OBPers over the last three seasons with their accompanying IsoD.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 23, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

thanks!!

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 23, 2008 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

what does the D stand for again?

i know it’s for patience/walks/whatever, but the exact word escapes me

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 23, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

discipline.

which you lack.

i do not avoid women, gafferland.

by larry on Jul 23, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've always read it as discipline/

by CWSKeith on Jul 23, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

thank you sirs

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 23, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Listen to this

“The White Sox explored a scenario where they would’ve acquired Brian Roberts from Baltimore, traded Orlando Cabrera to the Dodgers, and moved Alexei Ramirez to shortstop. That obviously didn’t work out. The Sox may be currently trying to decide whether to part with third baseman Josh Fields, their best trade chip and third baseman of the future.” – Robothal

I can’t decide whether I like the idea of moving OCab. As much as he stirs the pot he can beat you in a lot of ways. Brian Roberts would be a very welcome addition… and if I am not mistaken he is not a free agent until the end of next year. As much as I love OC I am debating with myself over who I would rather have. Thoughts?

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 23, 2008 6:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

old meme

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 23, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

In the top of the 8th inning, I yelled to my disinterested co-workers:

“This is not right. The Sox NEVER lose on my birthday!”

Then I turned off the game to get some work done so I could actually leave on time and enjoy my existence.

And what do you know! That team, oozing with sucktitude of late, pulls a win out of their asses.

Q!nicorn heard me. And he stuck his twisted magical horn into the Rangers, until their blood coated the diamond; and turned it into a ruby.

(Colin or Wiz, can you do your search thing and find out how many July 23rd games they’ve lost in the last 15 years? Because I may be wrong about them NEVER losing on my bday, but I’m sure some years are hazier than others…heh).

I believe in Harvey Dent

by homesickalien on Jul 23, 2008 6:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

not quite

7/23 games

http://www.baseball-reference.com/games/standings.cgi?date=2007-07-23 and keep going 1 year back

L W L W W W L L L – L L W L L

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 23, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for finding!

So, in reality, they mostly just lose. Boy am I glad I became of drinking age, so I could just think we are winning all the time.

I believe in Harvey Dent

by homesickalien on Jul 24, 2008 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh. wait. they won 2 of 3. sorry.

i do not avoid women, gafferland.

by larry on Jul 23, 2008 6:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

They needed to after losing 2 of 3 to the Royals at home.

by SSH2005 on Jul 23, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seashels and balloons, as always.

I’m telling you, that kid of yours may as well be named Jimmy Piersall II. Get your therapy account ready.

The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.

by winningugly on Jul 23, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fuck, seashells

The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.

by winningugly on Jul 23, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

abyb yes?

:p

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 23, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

All good with a "w"

The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.

by winningugly on Jul 23, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Back to your old ways, I see

It’s like you never changed in the first place…

read the whole thing you stroke artist - kenwo4life

by rhythm on Jul 23, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No replay on csn?

BOOOOOOOOO!!!

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by thecip on Jul 23, 2008 7:06 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

WhiteSox.com has a video of just about every big play in the game...

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200807233181183&c_id=cws

by SSH2005 on Jul 23, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Someone gonna put up an 'open thread' for the next day-and-a-half?

I would but I don’t have the keys anymore.

by CWSKeith on Jul 23, 2008 8:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I put up something

I added a nerdy title too!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 23, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This site is going straight to hell in a handbasket

Site value < $50K. Trend is down:

1. No Cheat.
2. No recaps. Ever. Again.
3. Nazi Photoshops.
4. larry bored, starting his own “cool” site. By selected invitation only. You may not participate. Ever. Stop crying. Now.
5. Toonder pissed, still carping about a game near last week and McCain/CBS. Has become irrelevant and bitter.
6. kenwo more insightful than Tdogg.
7. bhoov no longer doing research.
8. Chiburb and family becoming fossilized by age. Arthritic fingers and narcolepsy affecting their posts.
9. SSH starting to make sense.
10. Wiz thinking of moving to the 1st floor – has heard about concepts “sunlight” and “pay”, wants what’s his.

All downhill from here.

The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.

by winningugly on Jul 23, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And now, as of Wiz' 9:31 EST post, the denouement:

11. Wiz arrested, SSS site shut down for copyright violations.

The Butkus year - time to knock everyone on their ass.

by winningugly on Jul 23, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you cannot steal what's yours right?

is there some rule against what I put up?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 23, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We've had more Wire threads than recaps it seems

Dammit I want my Sox games to be tidied up in a neat package every night. This is by far the worst site on the internet, I vote to move game threads to lemonparty.

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 23, 2008 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs