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Good thing the Sox don’t need any pitching.

C’mon, Kenny.

by SSH2005 on Jul 27, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kenny gets it

but he’s not going to pay out the ass for it. and he shouldn’t. and do you really want to see washburn here?

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see why he wouldn't pay the cost...

The Sox have made the playoffs two times in the past 7 years. You may as well go for when you have a shot.

by SSH2005 on Jul 27, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think they'll make it without the additions

and if there isn’t a Swisher sort of contract available, then you aren’t really helping the team. cost certainty on low risk and taking on risk for little money is how you compete. that’s the opposite of what you’re proposing, imo.

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

can't give a dollar if he's only got 50 cents.

fields is the price. and, unfortunately, i don’t think it’s a good idea to pay that price with crede questionable. i thought he’d be able to get through at least one season without issues. wrong.

by larry on Jul 27, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the back, she is a bitch

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

time elapse!

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahah

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Much better at bat though.

saw six pitches that time.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2B

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 27, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

CAN NO BE STOPPED

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not?

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i was using my ozzie accent

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats the way I read it.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Juan apparently wants to play 3B while Crede's out

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the word "slather" is awesome

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta get to it before anyone notices.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cabrera-esque.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

let's raise that pitch count

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

clearly

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

time to stop.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you are abusing your privleges sir

WWOD?

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what's that?

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What Would Omar Do

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

minaya?

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i hate you guys

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

who wouldnt?

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

no.

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

very nice

hey, do you have the wire application on your facebook?

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i do not

ought i?

Hazy actually found me on facebook. Should we start a group or something?

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dammit I should start watching that show.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah i'm pretty sure that was a large contributing factor

into why most hated that little ditty I did the other day. kinda required knowing Omar’s story thoroughly.

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My friends keep talking about it and then you pricks keep referring to it.

I guess its time to hit up bittorrent.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what did you do??

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

his recap the other day.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wasn't a recap

was “Just Some Stuff”

it may well have not been well written but i was setting up a pretty thorough parallel between omar and Q

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

whatever that badly written pos was.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you can submit quotes

i have a couple

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i would prefer sss remain facebook free

but i’m with consensus you know. you should check out the wire app

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't like facebook, which is why i'm not going to advocate

one or the other. i do love the AD trivia app. at least until i got 10000 points on it.

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Btw, next time Juan does something good, I'm going to exclaim

“WITH CLUB SAUCE!”

just so you guys are prepared for the reference beforehand.

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yessir

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Vazquez has now allowed 3 or more earned runs in 9 consecutive starts"

per the Detroit announcers

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

But not as you have perceived it?

Javy is Schrodinger’s Starting Pitcher.

by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 27, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats not going to end well.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is actually fairly close to Javy Dent

as far as equivalent nicknames go

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's what makes it an intriguing alternative

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Kantian Krusher!

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

positing the obvious/cliche

Maybe Javy is tipping his pitches?

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

his walk rate hasn't suffered though

it’s just his hit rate. so i’m hoping that it’s just a BABIP thing…but they keep hitting this shit so hard.

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here come the Twinkies....

Monroe breaks up Sowers’ perfect game with a leadoff 2B to start the 6th.

by stanchar on Jul 27, 2008 1:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Zombie Twinkies!!!

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah. Sowers was going to pitch a no-no.

And Uribe weighs 170

Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN

by gafferland on Jul 27, 2008 1:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sowers is one of the worst starters in the league imo

I hate his stuff

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

great name though.

Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN

by gafferland on Jul 27, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, Derek Lowe goes 8 and gives up 1 hit?

It was against the Nats, but still. The world has gone mad.

Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN

by gafferland on Jul 27, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Javy could be an ace on the very high side....

a really solid 2 or 3….but basically functions as an OK 4.

by stanchar on Jul 27, 2008 1:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yes.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bases juiced nobody out for Twins....

they win, we lose, they sweep us, we leave Minnesota down 1.5.

by stanchar on Jul 27, 2008 1:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

noobs need to learn the powers of stanchar

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

jdal09= nub POS

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

his sig should be "I CALLED CROSSIES!"

Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room !

by explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit on Jul 27, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The 3-1 pitch to Dye called a strike....

was in a similar location to one Vasquez threw earlier when AJ set up outside….big call there.

by stanchar on Jul 27, 2008 1:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i thought they won the world series already against the cubs

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as I posted on an earlier thread....

I know we don’t have a ton to trade, but I’d be really surprised if KW doesn’t swing a starter somehow.

by stanchar on Jul 27, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get Dent outa there!

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 1:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

sure, why not

our bp doesn’t have much depth right now. its the offense that needs to pick it up.

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i have to agree

but who to put in and mop up this shite

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 27, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can see keeping him in to save the bullpen for MN.

But in that case, I would yank the oldsters.

Dayum, he sucks today.

by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 27, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Javy

has allowed 5+ runs in 5 of his last 8 starts.

He allowed 5+ in just 5 of 32 starts all of last year.

by Bull Pain on Jul 27, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

different things

we need and we can get

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 27, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah i meant precisely

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

indubitably even.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well 2-3 aint bad.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wasserman

hope he can go an inning.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 1:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Im still satisfied with the deal.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

me too

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i hope you feel thoroughly chastened

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LEAVE THE BOY ALONE JAVY!

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 1:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

love seeing tubby run.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 1:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This is also

4 out of the last 5 years since leaving Montreal that Javy has put up an ERA in the 4.40-5 range. It’s possible last year was the exception to an otherwise 100 ERA+ pitcher. Either that or he sucks on teams that are competitors.

by Bull Pain on Jul 27, 2008 1:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He was actaully good for 2 years -- half of 2006 through half of 2008

But he looks like toast now. It’s such a decline, you have wonder if he’s hurt.

If the Sox can get any sort of starter for Fields and Poreda (even a Washburnesque one), they have to make that trade.

Announcer: [A fan] from Frederick, Maryland, wants to know why you don't go out and get some more team speed.

Weaver: Team speed, for Chrissake, you get BLEEP god damn little fleas on the bases getting picked off trying to steal, getting thrown out, taking runs away from you. You get them big BLEEP who can hit the BLEEP ball out of the BLEEP ballpark and you can't make any god damn mistakes.

by hitlesswonder on Jul 27, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, 2 reasons

1) Washburn’s season is actually headed in the opposite direction of vazquez—right now I’m not sure Washburn is worse.

2) The Sox have Richard in the rotation, and he is worse than Washburn

Announcer: [A fan] from Frederick, Maryland, wants to know why you don't go out and get some more team speed.

Weaver: Team speed, for Chrissake, you get BLEEP god damn little fleas on the bases getting picked off trying to steal, getting thrown out, taking runs away from you. You get them big BLEEP who can hit the BLEEP ball out of the BLEEP ballpark and you can't make any god damn mistakes.

by hitlesswonder on Jul 27, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I wasn't requesting Washburn specifically

Just someone that might put up a 5 ERA or so from here on out….

Announcer: [A fan] from Frederick, Maryland, wants to know why you don't go out and get some more team speed.

Weaver: Team speed, for Chrissake, you get BLEEP god damn little fleas on the bases getting picked off trying to steal, getting thrown out, taking runs away from you. You get them big BLEEP who can hit the BLEEP ball out of the BLEEP ballpark and you can't make any god damn mistakes.

by hitlesswonder on Jul 27, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

for one more start.

and a guy who can put up a 5 is named clayton richard.

by larry on Jul 27, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

those don't seem like good reasons

or necessarily well reasoned ones

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

last 15 games

we’ve given up 88 runs (including today). We’ve only held the opposing team to 4 runs or less 2 times.

5.86 era.

Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN

by gafferland on Jul 27, 2008 1:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

According to BP, I think it is...

Announcer: [A fan] from Frederick, Maryland, wants to know why you don't go out and get some more team speed.

Weaver: Team speed, for Chrissake, you get BLEEP god damn little fleas on the bases getting picked off trying to steal, getting thrown out, taking runs away from you. You get them big BLEEP who can hit the BLEEP ball out of the BLEEP ballpark and you can't make any god damn mistakes.

by hitlesswonder on Jul 27, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

your pessimism is excessive

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but here I was really just pointing that BP's projections always hate on the Sox pitching

Except for Vazquez ironically

Announcer: [A fan] from Frederick, Maryland, wants to know why you don't go out and get some more team speed.

Weaver: Team speed, for Chrissake, you get BLEEP god damn little fleas on the bases getting picked off trying to steal, getting thrown out, taking runs away from you. You get them big BLEEP who can hit the BLEEP ball out of the BLEEP ballpark and you can't make any god damn mistakes.

by hitlesswonder on Jul 27, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

even for this site?

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think i'm pretty pessimistic

so if you’re worse than me, then it’s probably excessive

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Id say my pessimism is on par with most here.

The only person here I can really say is always negative is SSH.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah pretty much

HW has been trending badly imo

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by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I was positive about Richard's start and Vazquez's last start

I think the Sox are a good team, but to me the pitching looks like it’s imploding—both starting and in the pen.

To hold off MIN and DET, I think the Sox need to trade…

I don’t think that makes me insanely pessimistic.

Announcer: [A fan] from Frederick, Maryland, wants to know why you don't go out and get some more team speed.

Weaver: Team speed, for Chrissake, you get BLEEP god damn little fleas on the bases getting picked off trying to steal, getting thrown out, taking runs away from you. You get them big BLEEP who can hit the BLEEP ball out of the BLEEP ballpark and you can't make any god damn mistakes.

by hitlesswonder on Jul 27, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're referring to the imploding pitching that managed to win two games against the tigers in detroit?

help me out, i’m having trouble with the math here. how are the tigers going to catch the sox doing that?

by larry on Jul 27, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you using wins to measure pitching?

Obviously this series is a blow to DET and if the Sox ply .600 ball from here on out they are golden.

But the math in terms of runs allowed over the last 20 games has to be pretty bad (I don’t have the energy to look it up—feel free to prove me wrong if I am) and that’s without Floyd going critical like everyone is predicting (I’m actually optimistic he won’t). And the bullpen has to be a concern with Logan, Thornton, and Linebrink all having issues.

I’m concerned about the pitching—not jumping off a ledge.

Announcer: [A fan] from Frederick, Maryland, wants to know why you don't go out and get some more team speed.

Weaver: Team speed, for Chrissake, you get BLEEP god damn little fleas on the bases getting picked off trying to steal, getting thrown out, taking runs away from you. You get them big BLEEP who can hit the BLEEP ball out of the BLEEP ballpark and you can't make any god damn mistakes.

by hitlesswonder on Jul 27, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

FIAL on my part....

Too little sleep eroding my reading comprehension skills

Announcer: [A fan] from Frederick, Maryland, wants to know why you don't go out and get some more team speed.

Weaver: Team speed, for Chrissake, you get BLEEP god damn little fleas on the bases getting picked off trying to steal, getting thrown out, taking runs away from you. You get them big BLEEP who can hit the BLEEP ball out of the BLEEP ballpark and you can't make any god damn mistakes.

by hitlesswonder on Jul 27, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but i honestly can't say i'm concerned about giving up 5 or 6 runs to the tigers.

remember when cc sabathia was horseshit in april and was done? remember when x didn’t perform for like three weeks and he was done?

this thing is getting magnified because it’s close to the deadline. step back and consider the whole picture.

by larry on Jul 27, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

larry is a big advocate of wins

the best pitching stat there is!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 27, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's see....Tigers don't have a great pen...

we finally get into it today….Zumaya has walked 15 in 16 IP…
and our first two hitters go out on 2 pitches

by stanchar on Jul 27, 2008 1:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

gonna have to pick it up here.

late-inning heroics.

Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN

by gafferland on Jul 27, 2008 2:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This team sucks.

Pitching, defense and health.

by ballyb on Jul 27, 2008 2:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oh bally

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Emailed Josh Kalk

and he had the following to say about the cards and tool:

“The tool is about a month and a half old right now because it is a huge pain for me to update with the say my server has things setup. I’ll try to update shortly however as it is way out of date. The cards are up to date as of a few days ago so the differences you are seeing in pitch type is my algorithm changing it’s mind as more data comes in.”

So I might see if he’ll run a few Sox pitchers for me, but it looks like it should be relatively soon anyway.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 2:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

any particular reason you'd prefer to see Wasserman to Javy?

well, I’m sure Javy’s pitch count is huge at this point. but I’d like to see him work on stuff if he’s capable.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At this point...

Ozzie may as well let Javy pitch another inning and save Wassermann for the 8th.

by SSH2005 on Jul 27, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not like he's going to have to get someone for the 9th

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS GAME SUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!

RAWRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGAAAA!!!!!!!!

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 2:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

sheff's being a little bitch

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2008 2:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

freal

glad he’s finally out

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brewers looking to take 1st place today...

It still early but the Brewers lead the Astros 4-1 and the Marlins are beating the Cubs 5-0.

Ryan Braun is studly and Jason Marquis sucks worse than Hobby.

by SSH2005 on Jul 27, 2008 2:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

can we get a rally thread?

Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN

by gafferland on Jul 27, 2008 2:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not sure what I was thinking,

probably content with 2 from the Tigers.

FUCK THAT!

We need a rally!

Rally caps in place, men?

Pitching, defense and health.

by ballyb on Jul 27, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to play matchmaker....

and fix up Konerko and Sheffield.

They seem to have a fair amount in common….declining superstars mired in slumps….very similar ‘08 stats…..could be a great fixup.

by stanchar on Jul 27, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I wouldnt call Pauly a superstar.

Just very good at his prime.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and this season is ovah!!

no?

(quietly steps away. heads to bleed cubbie blue.)

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 27, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

pitcher wasn't throwing meatballs

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

least they arent dead.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

GO INDIANS!!!

They are down 2-1 to the Twinkies but they now have runners at the corners with no outs. A Twins loss would be hot.

by SSH2005 on Jul 27, 2008 2:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

sexy you mean

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you one of Grady's ladies?

Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN

by gafferland on Jul 27, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Half black you know.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

couldnt find a bigger picture?

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

boom

Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN

by gafferland on Jul 27, 2008 2:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i see injury delay, or it is just normal pitching change?

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2008 2:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

playing air guitar on the mound again?

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm really disappointed with q today

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

HERESY!!

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

rally

Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN

by gafferland on Jul 27, 2008 2:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Farmer says...

“OHHH, FOR THE HOMERUN!!!”

by SSH2005 on Jul 27, 2008 2:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

haha

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 run single!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 27, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So unclutch

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 2:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Retire you old useless asshole.

Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN

by gafferland on Jul 27, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

who are you talkin about gaffer?

:p

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 27, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jonh Madden. Duh.

Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN

by gafferland on Jul 27, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Once again, Farmer says...

"OHHH, FOR THE HOMERUN!!!"

by SSH2005 on Jul 27, 2008 2:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ugh

time for pauly to crap the bed.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 2:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thome OPSing 1.036 on the month.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh no, pk

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 27, 2008 2:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

99 on the gun. wtf?

Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN

by gafferland on Jul 27, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 2:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that's hilarious

sad but true

Go Sox!

by luzinski on Jul 27, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

brian anderson could have done that!

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 27, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

while doing his cocky walk

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 27, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Konerko at least shows you he cares when he makes an out

Announcer: [A fan] from Frederick, Maryland, wants to know why you don't go out and get some more team speed.

Weaver: Team speed, for Chrissake, you get BLEEP god damn little fleas on the bases getting picked off trying to steal, getting thrown out, taking runs away from you. You get them big BLEEP who can hit the BLEEP ball out of the BLEEP ballpark and you can't make any god damn mistakes.

by hitlesswonder on Jul 27, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he pulled the hairs on his head?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 27, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nah, he would have singled

just so jd could get thrown out by a mile trying to score.

by Trooper on Jul 27, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

can we find a jack cust?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 27, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

FIAL

Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN

by gafferland on Jul 27, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

whoah, easy heat is in

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2008 2:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thornton hopefully doesnt show

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 2:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

dammit stupid fuck!!

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how's the boy lookin'?

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 27, 2008 2:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

does this mean we get to face todd jones again?

huzzah!

plus konerko won’t be coming up unless we already have a big inning.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 27, 2008 2:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fucking Twins...

Why would you pitch to Morneau with 1B open?

by SSH2005 on Jul 27, 2008 2:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

because you're the Indians?

Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN

by gafferland on Jul 27, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sounds hot.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 27, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We need an official rally thread don't we?

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 2:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you can post it

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 27, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

someone better do it.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 27, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I GOT IT!

ball lands softly at my feet

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

4-2 Twins now...

And that ballgame is OVA.

by SSH2005 on Jul 27, 2008 2:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

NEW THREAD NEW THREAD NEW THREAD

GET TO IT

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 27, 2008 2:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

7 minutes without a rally thread.

Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN

by gafferland on Jul 27, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

10 minutes.

Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN

by gafferland on Jul 27, 2008 2:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I blame the lack of a rally thread

only explanation for that swing.

Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN

by gafferland on Jul 27, 2008 2:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

now 4

Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN

by gafferland on Jul 27, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?!?!

That’s ghey. Where was the link love? Oh well. I accept full responsibility.

Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN

by gafferland on Jul 27, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well that sux

Oh well, won the series and Detroit probably just blew out Zumaya and Rodney for a week or so.

by madvillian on Jul 27, 2008 2:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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