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First Place Still Belongs to Sox

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When the White Sox leave the Metrodome Thursday night, they will do so, as they have every day since May 17th, in sole possession of first place. According to MLB.com's Scott Merkin, the team makeup should remain unchanged as well.

I'm sure the Sox would like to make a move, but to use a KWism, "I can't give you a dollar if I only have 50 cents." There's not a lot of pitching out there to be had, and the little that is available is overpriced and outside of the Sox talent-budget.

As for the game itself, the Sox got to face Livan Hernandez, who give up hits in bunches, while the Twins faced Gavin Floyd, who owns one of the league's lowest BAA. It's as simple as that. One team put a good pitcher on the mound, the other may as well have put Clay Council out there.

Offensively, every White Sox starter recorded a hit, even Paul Konerko. But it was Carlos Quentin who did the heavy lifting, driving in 4 runs with a solo shot and a bases clearing double. He would have added another RBI, but AJ Pierzynski was indecisive (and slow) moving to third on a single.

Gavin Floyd did what he's seemingly been doing all year, stepping up to stop a Sox losing skid. It was the third time this season that Floyd has earned the victory following a Sox losing streak of 3 or more.

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Makes me regret...

Ever trading Gavin Floyd for Rafael Furcal (pre-60-day DL stint) ...

Thoughts on the fifth starter in the rotation? Richard? The Count? Russel? Broadway? ....
...
...
Poreda?!

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 30, 2008 11:53 PM CDT   0 recs

And no Wiz...

I did not die. I just kinda took a hiatus. I’ve been following the White Sox… just not from here. I’m still a little peeved we didn’t take Smoak… especially given Konerko’s struggles. Oh well. I’m trying to move on from that.

Still stoked we’re in a first place!

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 30, 2008 11:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Vazquez.

Contreras is #4 when he gets back.

by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 31, 2008 12:18 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hmmm....

Vasquez.. Buehrle. Danks. Floyd. The Count? ...

I’m talking if/when the Count dies of old age, or he gets hurt again or starts sucking again.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 31, 2008 12:23 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I assume the playoff order would actually be:

Buehrle, Vazquez, Danks, Floyd, Contreras, though right now, I would move Floyd to 2, Contreras to 4 and Vazquez to 5.

If Contreras is hurt/dead/zombified/de-animated, I assume they’ll stick with Richard until he has a truly bad game or two. After that, I suspect we might see (shudder) Masset.

by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 31, 2008 12:29 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

in a perfect world scenario- b,c,v,d,f

"a lack of capitalization is a passive-aggressive way of displaying my contempt for you people. you are unworthy of my shift key."

by explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit on Jul 31, 2008 1:10 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Richard has had a good game?

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 1:10 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

that's not what he said

he said a “truly bad game” which does not imply good. It could also imply fair, mediocre, bad, poor, etc

-Jeeves Life in the Cell

by jeeves on Jul 31, 2008 2:11 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ah, yes...

the Mythical Five-Man Playoff Rotation.

The Twins are not good, please stop posting their score.

by defensive indifference on Jul 31, 2008 8:04 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

talk is cheap, KW

I think KW should halt any and all handing out of the “I can’t give you a dollar if I only have 50 cents.” comments in regards to the Sox roster after he gifted a 500k bonus to his own son.

I cannot answer any more questions for you today. I has wickeds gas from drink too manys redbull.

by Marlafar on Jul 31, 2008 12:08 AM CDT   0 recs

LOL, good point.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 1:10 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Big Game Gavin?

Trade Freddy to get … younger, non-broken Freddy? Me likey.

by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 31, 2008 12:10 AM CDT   0 recs

Am I the only fan/poster/internetdork that is not enamored with watching the Wassermanns or Russells or Carascos or Logans of the world give up leads late in games much like 2007?

Take a look at some of the trades that have taken place. Middle-of-a-career-year-reliever for an organizational prospect. KW is lying when he says that a trade is not likely because of the climate.

Or…. Maybe the league’s 29 other GMs have watched KW trade away bust prospect after bust prospect and now simply refuse to deal with non-MLB players??

Assuming everyone is healthy all at once at some point, the BP depth chart should look like….

Bobby Jenks
Scott Linebrink
Octavio Dotel
Matt Thornton
DJ Carasco
Nick Masset
Ehren Wassermann
Adam Russell
Mike MacDougal
Lance Broadway
Jack Egbert
Jon Link
Dewon Day

Everything below Thornton scares the crap outa me.

I cannot answer any more questions for you today. I has wickeds gas from drink too manys redbull.

by Marlafar on Jul 31, 2008 12:16 AM CDT   0 recs

Who is Jon Link?

and I didn’t know Dewon Day was still on the team…

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 31, 2008 12:24 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

KW snagged him for...

Rob Mackowack last year at the deadline. Sub-2 ERA as Birmingham’s closer. I posted his name more as a joke… since Cowley wrote that if KW doesn’t make a trade for a reliever, Jon Link is next to be called up (and subsequently fail, I think is what he was getting at with his articlay).

I cannot answer any more questions for you today. I has wickeds gas from drink too manys redbull.

by Marlafar on Jul 31, 2008 12:49 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ah nice.

And the possible word-play with Link is worth the trade alone.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 31, 2008 9:47 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Actually, checking Baseball-Reference.com, I don't think any of those guys has blown a lead late all year -- at least not in a game the Sox have lost.

I could’ve missed it, tho.

I will say that if our worst problem is who our #5 reliever is, I kind of like our chances.

by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 31, 2008 12:32 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

true....

I guess I am overreacting somewhat. I keep forgetting that the 5th starter moves to bullpen, IF the Sox find their way to the playoffs.

I cannot answer any more questions for you today. I has wickeds gas from drink too manys redbull.

by Marlafar on Jul 31, 2008 12:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

dj carrasco hasn't been terrible

i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry

by furby2056 on Jul 31, 2008 1:03 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What bullpen goes more than four deep "confidence" wise?

I don’t know if there are many. Our top four is pretty freaking good, probably close to as good as there is in baseball. And there are pitchers below that ‘threshold’ who have their uses. Boone Logan is going through a rough stretch but is still a decent enough LOOGY. And Carrasco is fine as a long-reliever type.

Barring some miracle by Kenny in the next whatever-many hours to the deadline, there’s not going to be any changes. And I’m fine with that. Trading Fields + anything and everything else in our farm-system doesn’t strike me as a good idea, even if that means being a step or two below the elite teams in baseball this year (Cubs, Angels, Red Sox, Rays). This team - without any changes - is good enough to make the playoffs. Will that happen? I don’t know. But I do know that neither the Twins nor the Tigers are appreciably (if at all) better than the Sox, and the Sox (from this point on) get a 1.5-game head start on the Twins.

I feel like I’m sounding a bit too much like JRE in looking down the road so much, but taking a bigger picture look, I think it’s huge that Kenny has - moreso this season than the past two - created a new young core to supplant the 2005 bunch. At least for the foreseeable future, we’re in as good of shape as anyone in the Central.

by CWSKeith on Jul 31, 2008 1:06 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This post should be named "About Fucking Time"

in honor of the first White Sox win at the baggydome this year.

read the whole thing you stroke artist - kenwo4life

by rhythm on Jul 31, 2008 1:02 AM CDT   0 recs

as you wish

I wish he was in my fantasy league. id bury that cocksucker- KenWo4Life

by Hawk is God on Jul 31, 2008 1:38 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

floyd pitched really well tonight establishing his pitches and getting ahead in the counts

the k totals were down tonight which doesn’t really bother me and shows that he isn’t afraid to pitch to contact every once in awhile…i even think he got squeezed on a few calls but hey i’ll take this outing from gavin anyday

shit this quentin guy keeps raking it for us…where the fuck did he come from?...but seriously to think that sometime during spring training we thought the outfield would be swisher/owens/dye….then to opening day’s outfield of swisher/alexei/dye…thank god owens got hurt and thank god we didn’t give throw josh fields into the outfield like ryan braun…and to think we thought fatass would be our 2ndbaseman….we love slash and Q!..and even OC and captain swish at times….but one things for sure konerko is a fucking stroke

i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry

by furby2056 on Jul 31, 2008 1:10 AM CDT   0 recs

My new avatar...

Hahahahahaaa, it’s real too.

“Manny’s not headed to the Packers? Then how ‘bout the Marlins?”

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 1:49 AM CDT   0 recs

No.fucking.way...

I thought you were joking.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 7:32 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm not bitching...

I am pretty much in shock.

Did Kenny trade Konerko or is he headed to the bench? Does Kenny really think that Griffey can still play CF? LOL, this move is insane.

We need pitching, don’t we?

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 7:38 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's all over the Score...

but I’m skeptical.

“Where would he play?” Springs to mind. Griffey’s not an upgrade on Swisher.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jul 31, 2008 7:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Exactly...

I want Craig Grebeck to tell me one reason this move makes any sense.

As awful as Konerko has been at the plate, how much worse do the Sox get if Griffey is playing CF? That is fucking brutal, haha.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 7:41 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Brutal?

Assuming Griffrey is now willing to take less playing time it will not hurt. I can’t imagine it took much to get him. He still has to approve of the deal himself though.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 7:43 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I would hope there is more to come...

this just doesn’t make sense. So you have another LH bat but what exactly is KW doing?

by ozziesmallballs on Jul 31, 2008 7:50 AM CDT   0 recs

The last thing the Reds need is a 1B...

Even without Dunn and Votto moving to LF, they just drafted Yonder Alonso.

But Konerko was talking about trade rumors yesterday…

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 7:57 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Again if Griffey is willing to accept his role what is so hard to understand?

The team constructed as is, I doubt he would be coming to flat out start somewhere. The Sox get the same reports as others and no he really is not a CF right now. But Im confused, SSH are you implying his bat wouldnt help because he is not more like G Blum?? Get over the famous name.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 7:57 AM CDT   0 recs

I'm just trying to figure out what Griffey's role would be.

Unless the Sox have another deal in place, I don’t see how this works. Griffey DH’ing and Thome moving to 1B?

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jul 31, 2008 7:58 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No...

Griffey is a lefty so it would make no sense to acquire him as a DH. LF and RF are covered by Quentin and Dye. So that leaves CF for Griffey to play. Have you seen the guy play RF these days? He is 100 times worse than Dye defensively. No team would acquire Griffey to sit him on the bench so he is definitely starting somewhere for the Sox. He wouldn’t agree to the trade if he was sitting on the bench.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:00 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

When did you become Griffrey's agent?

And he wouldn’t have to sit permanently on the bench. He would get some time.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 8:02 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I have to defer at this point until we hear something from KW or Ozzie.

If they stick him in CF. I will be the first to agree it is a mistake.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 8:06 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sun-Times reports:

White Sox have traded for Ken Griffey jr.

"Stay thirsty my friends."

by oahu420 on Jul 31, 2008 8:08 AM CDT   0 recs

Stone on the score...

are you getting him to setup another deal?
trade poses more questions than it answers
swisher back to A’s for Huston STreet?

by stanchar on Jul 31, 2008 8:09 AM CDT   0 recs

JR to Mariners for Ichiro!

I can dream, can’t I?

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 8:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ok, so they may never part with Ichiro, since he is the only thing that draws the 14,000 fans per game...

But I am pretty sure they want Griffey to retire in a Mariners jersey.

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 8:56 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes, it would...

as bad as Swisher has been this year that’s a brutal deal.

And I doubt the A’s want Swisher back anyways. It wouldn’t make any sense.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:11 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I would crap my pants if that happens

OUT OF PROTEST, I can’t imagine that KW would misjudge what he has in Swisher and do that deal

-Jeeves Life in the Cell

by jeeves on Jul 31, 2008 9:03 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Definitely could be a precursor

But what? And yes Swisher back to A’s is not going to happen. In fact I seriously doubt KW would trade Swisher at all.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 8:13 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe...

if the Red Sox move Ramirez, then Dye goes to Boston for Coco Crisp + a reliever.

But that’s just me talking out of my ass.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jul 31, 2008 8:17 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah....this is definitely kind of exciting to get Junior....

but it’s hard for me to think that at 3:00 today we really are going to be that much better, if at all.

by stanchar on Jul 31, 2008 8:14 AM CDT   0 recs

Griffrey for year and lately

.245/.355/.432 year

last 30 games

.263/.391/.553

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 8:16 AM CDT   0 recs

Last 30 games are acceptable.

Hell of a lot better then Konerko or Swisher anyways. (i’d much rather have Swish long term though).

by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2008 8:22 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The only good news is that Griffey has started to hit...

Griffey’s July totals: .271 AVG / .386 OBP / .541 SLG / .927 OPS / 5 HR / 17 RBI / 15 BB / 15 K

But for as many runs as he helps the Sox score, he will probably give up as many on defense in CF.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:17 AM CDT   0 recs

Griffey in CF batting fifth,

‘till he gets hurt…

"Stay thirsty my friends."

by oahu420 on Jul 31, 2008 8:18 AM CDT   0 recs

This is being reported at even MLB.com...

so it sounds like it is just pending Griffey’s agreement to the deal since he has 10 and 5 rights.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:19 AM CDT   0 recs

where will he play?

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 31, 2008 8:19 AM CDT   0 recs

Can Thome play first?

Out of desperation ? Griffey at DH.. unless Griffey can handle first base? He wouldn’t be the first gold glove outfielder to move there. Hell, Erstadt did it.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2008 8:23 AM CDT   0 recs

Griffey

Means something else has to be in the works…can’t keep Thome, Konerko & Swish with Griffey.

I hope this isn’t just a love affair finally coming true too late for KW. I also hope the farm system isn’t purged.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 8:25 AM CDT   0 recs

Griffey is just this year though.

Thome gone after this year or 09, considering how he’s played, probably ‘09. He’s been killing the ball.

Maybe they keep them all, and hope Konerko returns to form next year and just accept this year wasn’t working out for him.

I really doubt we lose much in this deal, it sounded like nothing was being offered for Griffey, so no reason we can’t keep all four guys around.

My question is.. is it Anderson or Wise that is out, no reason to have them both around, and I assume Anderson has a lot more trade value then D. Wise.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2008 8:29 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well...

I need to see who the Sox gave up. If they’re only losing useless fodder like Masset or Broadway, this move doesn’t bother me a whole lot.

My only thinking is - if this goes through - a strict platoon between Konerko and Griffey. But the only way that could happen would be putting Griffey in centerfield, and… well… I’m fairly confident that Kenny understands just how piss poor a defender Griffey is.

by CWSKeith on Jul 31, 2008 8:26 AM CDT   0 recs

I am guessing that you are right about the return for the Reds...

Something like Broadway and Masset.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:27 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Exactly.

They’ve been trying to move Griffey and no one has offered a thing, I really doubt we give anything serviceable.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2008 8:29 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

don't be so sure!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 8:30 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Best thing about the deal.

I have a at least 10 year old Griffey Jr. Mariners T-Shirt sitting in the back of my closet, can’t wait to pull that thing out when I get home to see if it still fits.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2008 8:31 AM CDT   1 recs