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First Place Still Belongs to Sox

When the White Sox leave the Metrodome Thursday night, they will do so, as they have every day since May 17th, in sole possession of first place. According to MLB.com's Scott Merkin, the team makeup should remain unchanged as well.

I'm sure the Sox would like to make a move, but to use a KWism, "I can't give you a dollar if I only have 50 cents." There's not a lot of pitching out there to be had, and the little that is available is overpriced and outside of the Sox talent-budget.

As for the game itself, the Sox got to face Livan Hernandez, who give up hits in bunches, while the Twins faced Gavin Floyd, who owns one of the league's lowest BAA. It's as simple as that. One team put a good pitcher on the mound, the other may as well have put Clay Council out there.

Offensively, every White Sox starter recorded a hit, even Paul Konerko. But it was Carlos Quentin who did the heavy lifting, driving in 4 runs with a solo shot and a bases clearing double. He would have added another RBI, but AJ Pierzynski was indecisive (and slow) moving to third on a single.

Gavin Floyd did what he's seemingly been doing all year, stepping up to stop a Sox losing skid. It was the third time this season that Floyd has earned the victory following a Sox losing streak of 3 or more.

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Makes me regret...

Ever trading Gavin Floyd for Rafael Furcal (pre-60-day DL stint) ...

Thoughts on the fifth starter in the rotation? Richard? The Count? Russel? Broadway? ....
...
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Poreda?!

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 30, 2008 11:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And no Wiz...

I did not die. I just kinda took a hiatus. I’ve been following the White Sox… just not from here. I’m still a little peeved we didn’t take Smoak… especially given Konerko’s struggles. Oh well. I’m trying to move on from that.

Still stoked we’re in a first place!

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 30, 2008 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vazquez.

Contreras is #4 when he gets back.

by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 31, 2008 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm....

Vasquez.. Buehrle. Danks. Floyd. The Count? ...

I’m talking if/when the Count dies of old age, or he gets hurt again or starts sucking again.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 31, 2008 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I assume the playoff order would actually be:

Buehrle, Vazquez, Danks, Floyd, Contreras, though right now, I would move Floyd to 2, Contreras to 4 and Vazquez to 5.

If Contreras is hurt/dead/zombified/de-animated, I assume they’ll stick with Richard until he has a truly bad game or two. After that, I suspect we might see (shudder) Masset.

by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 31, 2008 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

in a perfect world scenario- b,c,v,d,f

"a lack of capitalization is a passive-aggressive way of displaying my contempt for you people. you are unworthy of my shift key."

by explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit on Jul 31, 2008 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Richard has had a good game?

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's not what he said

he said a “truly bad game” which does not imply good. It could also imply fair, mediocre, bad, poor, etc

by jeeves on Jul 31, 2008 2:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, yes...

the Mythical Five-Man Playoff Rotation.

The Twins are not good, please stop posting their score.

by defensive indifference on Jul 31, 2008 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

talk is cheap, KW

I think KW should halt any and all handing out of the “I can’t give you a dollar if I only have 50 cents.” comments in regards to the Sox roster after he gifted a 500k bonus to his own son.

I cannot answer any more questions for you today. I has wickeds gas from drink too manys redbull.

by Marlafar on Jul 31, 2008 12:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL, good point.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big Game Gavin?

Trade Freddy to get … younger, non-broken Freddy? Me likey.

by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 31, 2008 12:10 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Am I the only fan/poster/internetdork that is not enamored with watching the Wassermanns or Russells or Carascos or Logans of the world give up leads late in games much like 2007?

Take a look at some of the trades that have taken place. Middle-of-a-career-year-reliever for an organizational prospect. KW is lying when he says that a trade is not likely because of the climate.

Or…. Maybe the league’s 29 other GMs have watched KW trade away bust prospect after bust prospect and now simply refuse to deal with non-MLB players??

Assuming everyone is healthy all at once at some point, the BP depth chart should look like….

Bobby Jenks
Scott Linebrink
Octavio Dotel
Matt Thornton
DJ Carasco
Nick Masset
Ehren Wassermann
Adam Russell
Mike MacDougal
Lance Broadway
Jack Egbert
Jon Link
Dewon Day

Everything below Thornton scares the crap outa me.

I cannot answer any more questions for you today. I has wickeds gas from drink too manys redbull.

by Marlafar on Jul 31, 2008 12:16 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who is Jon Link?

and I didn’t know Dewon Day was still on the team…

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 31, 2008 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

KW snagged him for...

Rob Mackowack last year at the deadline. Sub-2 ERA as Birmingham’s closer. I posted his name more as a joke… since Cowley wrote that if KW doesn’t make a trade for a reliever, Jon Link is next to be called up (and subsequently fail, I think is what he was getting at with his articlay).

I cannot answer any more questions for you today. I has wickeds gas from drink too manys redbull.

by Marlafar on Jul 31, 2008 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah nice.

And the possible word-play with Link is worth the trade alone.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 31, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, checking Baseball-Reference.com, I don't think any of those guys has blown a lead late all year -- at least not in a game the Sox have lost.

I could’ve missed it, tho.

I will say that if our worst problem is who our #5 reliever is, I kind of like our chances.

by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 31, 2008 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

true....

I guess I am overreacting somewhat. I keep forgetting that the 5th starter moves to bullpen, IF the Sox find their way to the playoffs.

I cannot answer any more questions for you today. I has wickeds gas from drink too manys redbull.

by Marlafar on Jul 31, 2008 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dj carrasco hasn't been terrible

i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry

by furby2056 on Jul 31, 2008 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What bullpen goes more than four deep "confidence" wise?

I don’t know if there are many. Our top four is pretty freaking good, probably close to as good as there is in baseball. And there are pitchers below that ‘threshold’ who have their uses. Boone Logan is going through a rough stretch but is still a decent enough LOOGY. And Carrasco is fine as a long-reliever type.

Barring some miracle by Kenny in the next whatever-many hours to the deadline, there’s not going to be any changes. And I’m fine with that. Trading Fields + anything and everything else in our farm-system doesn’t strike me as a good idea, even if that means being a step or two below the elite teams in baseball this year (Cubs, Angels, Red Sox, Rays). This team - without any changes - is good enough to make the playoffs. Will that happen? I don’t know. But I do know that neither the Twins nor the Tigers are appreciably (if at all) better than the Sox, and the Sox (from this point on) get a 1.5-game head start on the Twins.

I feel like I’m sounding a bit too much like JRE in looking down the road so much, but taking a bigger picture look, I think it’s huge that Kenny has - moreso this season than the past two - created a new young core to supplant the 2005 bunch. At least for the foreseeable future, we’re in as good of shape as anyone in the Central.

by CWSKeith on Jul 31, 2008 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This post should be named "About Fucking Time"

in honor of the first White Sox win at the baggydome this year.

read the whole thing you stroke artist - kenwo4life

by rhythm on Jul 31, 2008 1:02 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

as you wish

I wish he was in my fantasy league. id bury that cocksucker- KenWo4Life

by Hawk is God on Jul 31, 2008 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

floyd pitched really well tonight establishing his pitches and getting ahead in the counts

the k totals were down tonight which doesn’t really bother me and shows that he isn’t afraid to pitch to contact every once in awhile…i even think he got squeezed on a few calls but hey i’ll take this outing from gavin anyday

shit this quentin guy keeps raking it for us…where the fuck did he come from?...but seriously to think that sometime during spring training we thought the outfield would be swisher/owens/dye….then to opening day’s outfield of swisher/alexei/dye…thank god owens got hurt and thank god we didn’t give throw josh fields into the outfield like ryan braun…and to think we thought fatass would be our 2ndbaseman….we love slash and Q!..and even OC and captain swish at times….but one things for sure konerko is a fucking stroke

i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry

by furby2056 on Jul 31, 2008 1:10 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My new avatar...

Hahahahahaaa, it’s real too.

“Manny’s not headed to the Packers? Then how ‘bout the Marlins?”

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 1:49 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No.fucking.way...

I thought you were joking.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 7:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not bitching...

I am pretty much in shock.

Did Kenny trade Konerko or is he headed to the bench? Does Kenny really think that Griffey can still play CF? LOL, this move is insane.

We need pitching, don’t we?

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 7:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's all over the Score...

but I’m skeptical.

“Where would he play?” Springs to mind. Griffey’s not an upgrade on Swisher.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jul 31, 2008 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly...

I want Craig Grebeck to tell me one reason this move makes any sense.

As awful as Konerko has been at the plate, how much worse do the Sox get if Griffey is playing CF? That is fucking brutal, haha.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brutal?

Assuming Griffrey is now willing to take less playing time it will not hurt. I can’t imagine it took much to get him. He still has to approve of the deal himself though.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would hope there is more to come...

this just doesn’t make sense. So you have another LH bat but what exactly is KW doing?

by ozziesmallballs on Jul 31, 2008 7:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The last thing the Reds need is a 1B...

Even without Dunn and Votto moving to LF, they just drafted Yonder Alonso.

But Konerko was talking about trade rumors yesterday…

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Again if Griffey is willing to accept his role what is so hard to understand?

The team constructed as is, I doubt he would be coming to flat out start somewhere. The Sox get the same reports as others and no he really is not a CF right now. But Im confused, SSH are you implying his bat wouldnt help because he is not more like G Blum?? Get over the famous name.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 7:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm just trying to figure out what Griffey's role would be.

Unless the Sox have another deal in place, I don’t see how this works. Griffey DH’ing and Thome moving to 1B?

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jul 31, 2008 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No...

Griffey is a lefty so it would make no sense to acquire him as a DH. LF and RF are covered by Quentin and Dye. So that leaves CF for Griffey to play. Have you seen the guy play RF these days? He is 100 times worse than Dye defensively. No team would acquire Griffey to sit him on the bench so he is definitely starting somewhere for the Sox. He wouldn’t agree to the trade if he was sitting on the bench.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When did you become Griffrey's agent?

And he wouldn’t have to sit permanently on the bench. He would get some time.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to defer at this point until we hear something from KW or Ozzie.

If they stick him in CF. I will be the first to agree it is a mistake.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sun-Times reports:

White Sox have traded for Ken Griffey jr.

"Stay thirsty my friends."

by oahu420 on Jul 31, 2008 8:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Stone on the score...

are you getting him to setup another deal?
trade poses more questions than it answers
swisher back to A’s for Huston STreet?

by stanchar on Jul 31, 2008 8:09 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

JR to Mariners for Ichiro!

I can dream, can’t I?

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, so they may never part with Ichiro, since he is the only thing that draws the 14,000 fans per game...

But I am pretty sure they want Griffey to retire in a Mariners jersey.

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, it would...

as bad as Swisher has been this year that’s a brutal deal.

And I doubt the A’s want Swisher back anyways. It wouldn’t make any sense.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would crap my pants if that happens

OUT OF PROTEST, I can’t imagine that KW would misjudge what he has in Swisher and do that deal

by jeeves on Jul 31, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Definitely could be a precursor

But what? And yes Swisher back to A’s is not going to happen. In fact I seriously doubt KW would trade Swisher at all.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe...

if the Red Sox move Ramirez, then Dye goes to Boston for Coco Crisp + a reliever.

But that’s just me talking out of my ass.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jul 31, 2008 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah....this is definitely kind of exciting to get Junior....

but it’s hard for me to think that at 3:00 today we really are going to be that much better, if at all.

by stanchar on Jul 31, 2008 8:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Griffrey for year and lately

.245/.355/.432 year

last 30 games

.263/.391/.553

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 8:16 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Last 30 games are acceptable.

Hell of a lot better then Konerko or Swisher anyways. (i’d much rather have Swish long term though).

by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2008 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only good news is that Griffey has started to hit...

Griffey’s July totals: .271 AVG / .386 OBP / .541 SLG / .927 OPS / 5 HR / 17 RBI / 15 BB / 15 K

But for as many runs as he helps the Sox score, he will probably give up as many on defense in CF.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:17 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Griffey in CF batting fifth,

‘till he gets hurt…

"Stay thirsty my friends."

by oahu420 on Jul 31, 2008 8:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This is being reported at even MLB.com...

so it sounds like it is just pending Griffey’s agreement to the deal since he has 10 and 5 rights.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

where will he play?

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 31, 2008 8:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Can Thome play first?

Out of desperation ? Griffey at DH.. unless Griffey can handle first base? He wouldn’t be the first gold glove outfielder to move there. Hell, Erstadt did it.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2008 8:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Griffey

Means something else has to be in the works…can’t keep Thome, Konerko & Swish with Griffey.

I hope this isn’t just a love affair finally coming true too late for KW. I also hope the farm system isn’t purged.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 8:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Griffey is just this year though.

Thome gone after this year or 09, considering how he’s played, probably ‘09. He’s been killing the ball.

Maybe they keep them all, and hope Konerko returns to form next year and just accept this year wasn’t working out for him.

I really doubt we lose much in this deal, it sounded like nothing was being offered for Griffey, so no reason we can’t keep all four guys around.

My question is.. is it Anderson or Wise that is out, no reason to have them both around, and I assume Anderson has a lot more trade value then D. Wise.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2008 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

I need to see who the Sox gave up. If they’re only losing useless fodder like Masset or Broadway, this move doesn’t bother me a whole lot.

My only thinking is - if this goes through - a strict platoon between Konerko and Griffey. But the only way that could happen would be putting Griffey in centerfield, and… well… I’m fairly confident that Kenny understands just how piss poor a defender Griffey is.

by CWSKeith on Jul 31, 2008 8:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I am guessing that you are right about the return for the Reds...

Something like Broadway and Masset.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

They’ve been trying to move Griffey and no one has offered a thing, I really doubt we give anything serviceable.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2008 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't be so sure!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Best thing about the deal.

I have a at least 10 year old Griffey Jr. Mariners T-Shirt sitting in the back of my closet, can’t wait to pull that thing out when I get home to see if it still fits.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2008 8:31 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

It doesnt

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Don't crush my dreams.

Maybe I bought large. It was the 90’s.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2008 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Griffey, Bench Player?

This I could see…his bat speed has slowed a lot to play everyday.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 8:33 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

39 is kinda old for CF

Especially with his history of injuries

"Stay thirsty my friends."

by oahu420 on Jul 31, 2008 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh fuck...

Swisher is headed back to the A’s.

Kenny is a retard.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I just got text messaged by my brother-in-law that Swisher is being traded back to the A's...

And he is a clueless Cubs fan. He must have heard it on the radio.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope he is wrong...

Adding Griffey and trading Swisher would make no sense.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope he just heard that bullshit from Steve Stone...

Supposedly, that is what Stone has been guessing.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

NO F-in way, IMHO.

Pitching, defense and health.

by ballyb on Jul 31, 2008 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like B.S. from my brother-in-law...

He said that he heard on WSCR 670 “The Score” that Griffey is headed to the Reds for two minor leaguers. He also said that he heard Steve Stone talking about possibly Swisher back to the A’s for Street. I think Stone was just hypothesizing.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Kenny is retard

What are you for calling him that because of your cubfan brother in law?

:-)

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, because Griffey is awful in CF...

Ask Larry.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No need to ask Larry

We all agree Griffrey is not a CF anymore.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read at some other Sox sites that Stone was hypothesizing...

about how the Sox would make room for Griffey in their lineup.

But Stone is usually wrong about these things.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is going to be a long trip from Cincy

to the Reds.

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 31, 2008 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Jr. we are sad to inform you that, you have been traded to the locker next to you"

ssh is such a goofball… can we get another ban on this guy? lol j/k

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 31, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Konerko sits.

Pitching, defense and health.

by ballyb on Jul 31, 2008 8:41 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

CF.

Swisher —> 1B.

Pitching, defense and health.

by ballyb on Jul 31, 2008 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can he still play CF ?

by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2008 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No.

He’s also been working out at 3B.

Pitching, defense and health.

by ballyb on Jul 31, 2008 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Konerko -----> pine

"Stay thirsty my friends."

by oahu420 on Jul 31, 2008 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if ozzie plays griffey in center i expect he'll be hurt in three weeks and responsible for a full run every game.

atrocious is too soft of a word for his play in right, let alone his play in center five years ago.

by larry on Jul 31, 2008 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So where, Larry?

Pitching, defense and health.

by ballyb on Jul 31, 2008 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is one of the few baseball trades that makes no sense...

It would have made sense last season if the Sox were actually in contention with all of the bums they had in LF. But putting Griffey in CF is suicide.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude for like the 800th time

No one has said A) The deal is done and B) That he is playing center.

Until I hear Ozzie or KW speak I’ll hold off on all the “blah blah blah doom”

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm feelin' ya dogg...

"Stay thirsty my friends."

by oahu420 on Jul 31, 2008 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Make your own guesses...

Everyone is reporting that this deal is agreed to upon Griffey’s OK. Griffey has never won a World Series and he would be going to a contender in his final season or so before he retires. Who wouldn’t accept a trade from the Reds to the White Sox? And what position does Griffey play? RF and he used to play CF.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was obvious 2-years ago

that Griffey was done in CF. Then put Dye next to him in RF, and Herm Schneider could get a triple.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

haha

best comment of the griffey trade aftermath

by jeeves on Jul 31, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think thats the key, EVERYONE know Griffrey is an accident waiting to happen in CF

besides being bad. What would be the point of sticking him out there?

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And clearly Swish is gone because Stone speculated

And SSH’s brother law confirmed the deal…..

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you know

who SSH’s brother law is?

Pitching, defense and health.

by ballyb on Jul 31, 2008 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Griffey and Steve

stone have been personally contacting SSH’s Brother-In-Law all morning.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I corrected my post...

Now get off my nuts.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where else is he going to play?

Acquiring him to platoon with Konerko at 1B is the only thing that makes sense and even that is a stretch considering he has only played 1B twice in his career. And who acquires Griffey to platoon with another player at 1B?

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure, but then you go stick him at a position...

that he has played twice in his career in the middle of a playoff race?

Is Thome moving back to 1B with Griffey at DH?

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, can he catch a ball?

Done. Put him in.

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

so griff plays first

wouldn’t ozzie platoon griffey with pk? where ever you put him, outfield, dh, 1st, he’s not playing full-time. do you think griff would accept that to go for the ring?

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 31, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And if I recall from when Thomas went from 1st to DH and back to 1st when PK was slumping,

it actually improved Frank’s hitting to be at a position again.

At least that’s how I remember it.

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most guys struggle at DH for a while

It’s hard for them to stay in the game and focused sitting around. Same reason guys who can pinch hit are so valuable.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ITS NOT?

You don’t have to be a great athlete to play first but it is not that easy either. Picking wild throws, making sure your foot is on the bag, stretching to make a pick, turning double plays, and left handers crush the ball at you. It is not as easy as it looks, and if your first basemen sucks then you will probably suck.

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 31, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if there's a place that most people can be serviceable, it's there.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 31, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just because there are fundamentals to keep straight when playing first, does not make it a difficult position.

Hopefully any and every professional baseball player could figure out 1st if they had to.
It’s the position where an average player can do the least amount of damage.

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe the Chicago White Sox

Why are you looking at JR as some must play everyday player?

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

C'mon...

It’s Griffey. He will be starting somewhere.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt he'd accept a trade...

otherwise.

Griffey is a nice guy, but he’s also proud. I doubt he’d take a trade to walk into a platoon situation.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jul 31, 2008 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

Griffey isn’t going to waive his 10 and 5 rights to be a bench player. The Sox knew this as well and weren’t going to even try to acquire him if they had to tell him that their idea was for him not to be an everyday player.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He'd rather platoon

as the Sox run to the post season than play out the season (everyday) in Cinci, IMO.

Pitching, defense and health.

by ballyb on Jul 31, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention it means he’ll be more likely to stay healthy.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then I doubt he is coming to the White Sox

Unless there are other moves, I don’t see how he plays anywhere near everyday for this team.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what's so confusing...

about this thing.

Either there’s another deal ready to go once this one is finalized, or Griffey to the Sox makes no sense at all.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jul 31, 2008 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The guy has never been to a world series.

I think he’ll take his chances even if it means not playing every day.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, i'd put it at 50/50 that he accepts the trade.

world series is nice but the guy also has a family and loves cincinnati. we’ll see.

by larry on Jul 31, 2008 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah

disregard my question above

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 31, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

on the score

they report that reds management vetoed it.

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Jul 31, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually...

the Reds owner vetoed that trade. The Reds were for sale at the time, and they thought that losing a marquee player would hurt the value of the team.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jul 31, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

now that i think about it

this guy is rumors all the time. this is not rumor though, he has to agree to this, but he has strong ties to cincinatti, and in the past that has been an obstacle in moving him.

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 31, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He would be with the Sox for only three months...

The Sox are probably getting money from the Reds to pay for Griffey’s $4 million dollar buyout.

I think another shot at contention would be a true motivator for Griffey. He is a sure-fire Hall of Famer but he has never won a World Series as you have stated so one last shot would probably be appealing to him.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The chance to play

for Ozzie “I am the master of reading body language” Guillen might be too hard for him to pass up.

Show mercy. I get to watch the Rangers.

by Tim from Texas on Jul 31, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pitching will be next.

Pitching, defense and health.

by ballyb on Jul 31, 2008 8:41 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not sure about much of the impact,

but one thing is for sure -

Our defense just got worse : (

Pitching, defense and health.

by ballyb on Jul 31, 2008 8:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So we are going to have a Harold and PK on the bench...

...oh the exciting conversation between the Bench Coach and the Bench Captain. Nappy time for Hermy

by ozziesmallballs on Jul 31, 2008 8:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather...

have Bonds than Griffey, and he would only cost $$$.

by Dick Allen's Mom on Jul 31, 2008 9:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WSCR now reporting Weathers or Affeldt

part of the deal. What if Griffey was acquired simply to take Wise’s spot? If he’s only used as a part time player, it’s not a bad thing.

by El Duque's Raft on Jul 31, 2008 9:07 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I will take Affeldt...

He isn’t THAT bad. Weathers would get ROCKED in the A.L.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

affeldt splits shows he's effective against lefties

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 31, 2008 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember what the Az fans said about Q!???

Grain of salt.

Pitching, defense and health.

by ballyb on Jul 31, 2008 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

player at beginning of career /= to player at end of career.

upside.

griffey is not a good baseball player anymore. if i were the reds, i would give him away just to save the money.

by larry on Jul 31, 2008 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no word at all

on what we gave up?? i really hope its a salary dump.

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Jul 31, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

It’s not like we are giving away stars for the guy. We are trading for a guy not in his prime, and hopefully using him in that manner. If he’s platooned at 1B / DH / CF hitting the ball out of the cell he should be useful for us. He doesn’t need to be an all star, if he does what he’s done for the Reds this year for us, he’ll be a big improvement over Konerko.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

subtract the CF

part of the equation and I agree. Griffey would cost us way more runs playing CF than he would gain us.

I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.

by bhoov on Jul 31, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he’s only out there a couple times a week, I figure he isn’t much worse than Swisher defensively.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m just saying if he only has to play there once or twice a week he can give more effort than he was playing full time, and he’ll be healthier so he can be serviceable. You are probably right though.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You would be wrong

Griffey is not only much much worse than Swisher he is much worse than Mackowiak (who was the worst MLB CF I’ve ever seen live).

I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.

by bhoov on Jul 31, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Toss up

"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)

by tailgater on Jul 31, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's a ++ hitter.

Pitching, defense and health.

by ballyb on Jul 31, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not these days...

although his numbers in the last 30 games have been very good.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

circa 2003?

he’s an average hitter now. inability to play defense probably makes him a below average player.

by larry on Jul 31, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

But they were watching an injured Q. Griffey simply can’t play CF anymore. The last time he tried every defensive metric had him as the WORST CF in MLB, and it wasn’t even close. And that was 2 years ago. Think Rob Mackowiak only even worse. The only options are bench player or platoon 1B. That’s it and I trust KW enough that I’m confident Jr. won’t be playing CF

I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.

by bhoov on Jul 31, 2008 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd have to see someone with my own eyes

before I believe anyone could possibly be worse than Mackowiak in CF.

Pitching, defense and health.

by ballyb on Jul 31, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just put it this way...

Do you see the way Dye looks like he is running in quicksand with concrete boots to hustle and dive for a ball that most right fielders catch on the strike?

Griffey looks the exact same way. Now imagine him in CF instead of RF.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stoney on WSCR this morning

speculated perhaps sending Swish back to Oakland for Houston Street.

"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)

by tailgater on Jul 31, 2008 9:22 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Me confused.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On my ass?

The stuff on my head has finally grown back. Thanks for asking.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't Griff Jr. one of the guys Kenny has always had a boner for?

"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)

by tailgater on Jul 31, 2008 9:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yes sir

he always gets “his guys”

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Jul 31, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed...

Kenny tried to trade for him back in 2005 to replace Rowand in CF.

I believe Kenny was offering Chris Young and Gio to the Reds for Griffey at the time. I could be wrong though.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

beat you to it yo ;-)

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 31, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, i did call him a hack

yes, different statements, i retract

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 31, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's a hack for the organization

he’s doing his job, quite well

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 31, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Griffey hit one in the upper deck last night (his last homer in Cincy?)

Also, he needs one more dinger to tie Sammy Sosa on the all-time list.(do it in Chicago?)

"Stay thirsty my friends."

by oahu420 on Jul 31, 2008 9:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

mmmmm. That would be strangely satisfying.

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Griff will refuse the deal. He'd have to give up...

1. Skyline Chili
2. United Dairy Farmers (like a 7-11, but with a DQ in back)
3. King’s Island

"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)

by tailgater on Jul 31, 2008 9:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

5. Listening to Dr. Johnny Fever on WKRP

I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator

by Nordhagen on Jul 31, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

So who would you guys rather have as the reliever coming back?
  • LHP Jeremy Affeldt
  • RHP “Stormy” Weathers
  • neither

I think I would rather have Affeldt because I think Weathers would get hammered in the A.L. Problem is that the Sox probably need a righty reliever over a lefty.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 9:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And to think

I thought we were going to discuss how good Floyd looked last night.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 9:37 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

YAY FLOYD!

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a bad return...

for Freddy Garcia, that’s for sure.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jul 31, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Freddy who?

"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)

by tailgater on Jul 31, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about how Chicago Tough

Swish looked, trying to replicate a Legend and thus needing the smelling salts to regain his dudeness.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

he just had the awesomeness knocked out of him momentarily

I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator

by Nordhagen on Jul 31, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can you believe that over on the Reds blog

They think that they might be getting Q! straight up for Jr.? Blasphemers!

"Stay thirsty my friends."

by oahu420 on Jul 31, 2008 9:49 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Any guesses as to who the Sox will be giving up for Griffey?

I heard two minor leaguers on WSCR 670 “The Score.”

I know he isn’t a minor leaguer but I am guessing it is Brian Anderson and Lance Broadway for Griffey.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 9:49 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd guess Egbert and Anderson or Poreda and Anderson

Announcer: [A fan] from Frederick, Maryland, wants to know why you don't go out and get some more team speed.

Weaver: Team speed, for Chrissake, you get BLEEP god damn little fleas on the bases getting picked off trying to steal, getting thrown out, taking runs away from you. You get them big BLEEP who can hit the BLEEP ball out of the BLEEP ballpark and you can't make any god damn mistakes.

by hitlesswonder on Jul 31, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too much for Griffey

i would be pissed if either Egbert or Poreda were in the deal.

by jeeves on Jul 31, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way, way too much, IMO.

Just pay his salary and give them some $$.

Pitching, defense and health.

by ballyb on Jul 31, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

am i the only one thrilled to see the white sox finally shore up the corner outfield positions?

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 31, 2008 9:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yes

Announcer: [A fan] from Frederick, Maryland, wants to know why you don't go out and get some more team speed.

Weaver: Team speed, for Chrissake, you get BLEEP god damn little fleas on the bases getting picked off trying to steal, getting thrown out, taking runs away from you. You get them big BLEEP who can hit the BLEEP ball out of the BLEEP ballpark and you can't make any god damn mistakes.

by hitlesswonder on Jul 31, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i would like you to lengthen your sig.

it’s good, but there’s gotta be more to that story.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 31, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...

with Quentin and Dye, the Sox were really weak in that regard.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jul 31, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i guess you can never assume that people on here will get the implied 'clearly'.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 31, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, been a problem for me as well lately

too many fucking newbies. Sons of bitches.

read the whole thing you stroke artist - kenwo4life

by rhythm on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

you need to turn on your sarcasm meter.

I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.

by bhoov on Jul 31, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Off Topic:Scotty Bowman to the Hawks?

Man this team is making some moves. Hawks are back baby.

by 815Sox on Jul 31, 2008 9:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Holy CraP!

That’s awesome.

Proof of how poorly the ‘Hawks were run (well more proof). The franchise does not own the web domain www.blackhawks.com it is a link farm.

by jeeves on Jul 31, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Consultant?

Link?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Talking about it on the Score

I’m trying to find a link.

Funny thing is I’m good friends with two of Dollar Bills Nephews. I’d regularly tell them how much I hated their uncle.

by 815Sox on Jul 31, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Their uncle was a douche!

I’d like to see Scotty in the organization. McDonough is working wonders for them.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

brian mcbride to the fire!!!

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Jul 31, 2008 9:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Scotty Bowman to the Hawks?

Man this team is making some moves. Hawks are back baby.

by 815Sox on Jul 31, 2008 9:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I saw this posted at SoxTalk.com...
A guy at work just said he heard on XM that its done. Griffey waived his NTC. I didnt hear it personally so take it with a grain of salt.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 9:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

espn 1000 just reported they're still waiting to hear on griffey

i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry

by furby2056 on Jul 31, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

anyone just hear the clowns on the score explaining how

junior is gonna help the sox defensively. he even said ‘though he may not have helped the reds defensively, he will help the sox.’

so there you go. junior hasn’t been trying on defense. now that he’s on a playoff team, it’s on. turn back the clock, baby.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 31, 2008 10:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hanley and Mully?

Those guys are terrible. I think Larry and SSH should be the new morning team on the Score.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Better than Mike North

"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)

by tailgater on Jul 31, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Inorganic phosphates are better than Mike North

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 31, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that sounds bad enough to happen.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 31, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

also on the score

they kept talking about how swisher hits better when he plays first, which is factually incorrect for both this year and his career.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Jul 31, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't know if this has been posted but on cbssportsline

they are saying that richar and nick magic are involved in the deal

i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry

by furby2056 on Jul 31, 2008 10:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

beatcha by three minutes keith lol

i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry

by furby2056 on Jul 31, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

when i saw magic's name i was extremely happy

i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry

by furby2056 on Jul 31, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quote...
The White Sox will send second baseman Danny Richar and reliever Nick Masset to the Reds. Some people familiar with their plans wonder if this will lead to another trade, because the White Sox have been looking for pitching.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would make sense for Kenny to give up these two guys...

Masset is terrible and Kenny may as well trade him before he further lowers any value he could have had. Richar is expendable with Gordon Beckham set to take over 2B in the long run.

At least Kenny isn’t trading away needed players.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about Getz!

He is the second coming of Joe Morgan!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is a utility man...

and he will probably be a good one.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait a fucking minute.

What about all that crap from yesterday??

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I said that I wouldn't be surprised if...

Getz could outproduce Cabrera at the plate.

But guess what? Cabrera sucks at the plate so that isn’t really a big accomplishment. He is still a backup.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can list about 10-12

shortstops having a better year offensively than OC. But, there are 30-teams in the majors.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We definitely save a few runs by subtracting Masset if true

My hate for him is unhealthy.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like a Big Mac in a bacon wrap.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that was funny

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get this at all

Is Griffey not washed up? I guess if he’s replacing Konerko (Swisher at 1st, Griffey at CF?) in the batting order it’s an upgrade. Meh, why not attempt to address the starting pitching or bullpen?

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 31, 2008 10:10 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

they're talking now on espn 1000 teasing

about how one of the sox players ate food off another players foot…if it was juan i’m sure he ate the foot too

i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry

by furby2056 on Jul 31, 2008 10:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

BA off of OH DO TELL

BA is the Johnny Knoxville of MLB

Property of: PAUL KONERKO Track and Field Academy & Steakhouse

by thecip on Jul 31, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was mashed potatoes....

i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry

by furby2056 on Jul 31, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

(Puking)

"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)

by tailgater on Jul 31, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

can we all agree that kw will not play junior in cf?

i mean, c’mon, is there really any belief that kw would be foolish enough to do that? get real.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 31, 2008 10:12 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no he's taking over for fields at third base

and is also the new lefty specialist in the pen

i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry

by furby2056 on Jul 31, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha!

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wouldn't it be adam russell jr.?

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 31, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Technically, but Sr because Griffey is an opos.

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

omg, i had no idea. i thought we traded for junior, but we actually traded for his dad? fuck. no wonder everyone is freaking out about this.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 31, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

...but wait, can his dad play cf?

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 31, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would be Adam Russell Sr. Jr.

Fixed!

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And will be selecting the clubhouse boombox music

"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)

by tailgater on Jul 31, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure Kenny will

In Baseball Mogl 2009. Lets see what management has to say folks.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get rid of Crede and PK?

Thome to 1st.
Griffey DH.

Gawd, I hope we don’t actually give Griffey a mitt.

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In fact, he should be searched for mitts every time he arrives for the game.

And they should be confiscated if found.

(Can you see Jr. with a mitt strapped to his inner-thigh?)

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i feel uncomfortable thinking about junior's inner-thigh.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 31, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Deal approved

Roesenthal says.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 10:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8398348/Griffey-accepts-trade-to-White-Sox

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Griffey's not Type A FA after this year, is he?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesnt matter

He’s not being offered arb

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

jesus christ, robbie.

people really overdo with free agent compensation thing. do not offer griffey arbitration.

by larry on Jul 31, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am keep trying to look

for the GD silver lining and I can’t find anything, uncle Lar.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh I just woke up. One question.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 31, 2008 10:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Though I know this will be an ongoing discussion for quite a while.

I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez

by omnipotent grab on Jul 31, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man we haven't considered that question yet.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on