Another Griffey thread
by The Wizard on Jul 31, 2008 12:36 PM CDT
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[Mark Gonzales]: 12:02 pm: Ken Griffey Jr. is one of only six players to hit at least 600 home runs and has been named to 13 All-Star teams. But the Sox are banking the 38-year-old Griffey has enough production left to help them to the post-season. The Whte Sox acquisition of the Cincinnati slugger is moving closer to reality. FOXSports.com, which first reported the trade, and Associated Press are reporting that Griffey approved the deal and it's now in the hands of the Commissioner's office. The Reds apparently have agreed to pick up a substantial portion of Griffey's salary. He will earn $12.5 million this season, with a $16.5 million team option and $4 million buyout. It's rare that the Commissioner's Office rejects deals involving more than $1 million exchanged. CBSSports.com is reporting that Cincinnati would pay the remaining $4 million due on Griffey's contract this season. A scouting source said the Sox will move reliever Nick Masset and second baseman Danny Richar to the Reds for Griffey and an undisclosed amount of cash. Masset and Richar are on the 40-man roster. The source added that the Griffey deal was fueled by the struggles of Paul Konerko, who is batting .214 and has only three extra base hits since coming off the disabled list July 8. Konerko has a full no-trade clause.
WGN-TV says Griffey will play center, I don't know how accurate is this.
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A quick graphic:
Here’s the newprojected lineup compared to AL averages this year. It’s quick and dirty, but it spells out a pretty damn good offense.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Jul 31, 2008 12:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nice
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 31, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
at or above average at every position
buenisimo
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Jul 31, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will Carroll is reporting that the reds are only sending 1 million over
I hope it’s the 4.
by madvillian on Jul 31, 2008 12:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that was posted on 10:38 CT iirc?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 31, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, I have it now
10:38 was correct
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 31, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea, could be old news, and he didn't break the trade
So doesn’t seem like he has much insight on this one.
by madvillian on Jul 31, 2008 12:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The next trade being reported on WSCR 670 "The Score" by Jesse Rogers...
is the White Sox being close to acquiring lefty starter John Lannan from the Washington Nationals.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 12:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lannan looks like a worse version of Cliff Floyd
Peripherals don’t match the ERA at all, although as a 23 year old he certainly has time to improve.
One thing that should be noted is that Griffey was swinging for 600 and that could have been a pretty big detriment to his swing and stats, I wonder what his OPS is after the 600th.
by madvillian on Jul 31, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
shoot. and cliff is a really shitty pitcher.
by larry on Jul 31, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
He can hit some.
shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.
by winningugly on Jul 31, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No diggity
shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.
by winningugly on Jul 31, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 31, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, Cliff Floyd, that's a good one me
Too much going on in the baseball world and work world to do either well today.
by madvillian on Jul 31, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Work is definitely getting the shaft.
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since number 600
his line is .221/.339/.457/.796
Since the start of July his line is .271/.386/.541/.927
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Jul 31, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has a good sinkerball
one of the highest groundball averages, so temper your expectations with that
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Jul 31, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To replace Masset?
Hopefully not as a starter.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lannan would be just fine as a back end starter
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Jul 31, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Move Contreras to the bullpen as a long reliever?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question
Does this mean KW will probably move wither Swish, PK or Thome? Sorry if this was covered in the last thread
by joewho112 on Jul 31, 2008 12:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yup. PK to the braves for kotchman, francouer, and gonzalez.
by larry on Jul 31, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gonzalez was replaced with yunel escobar
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 31, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
reyes, too, please.
regards,
paul from vegas
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by Toonderstrook on Jul 31, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PK cannot be traded, I wish people would stop bringing it up as within the realm
of possibility. I mean, sure, he could be moved, but it’s so unlikely as to not even consider it.
by madvillian on Jul 31, 2008 12:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok
So does this suggest KW will trade either Swisher or Thome?
by joewho112 on Jul 31, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Jul 31, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard thome to boston for tim wakefield and curt schilling
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 31, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems good as long as the Bloody Sock is thrown in
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
return to the dodgers?
:p
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 31, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Sox need to get Mike Cameron now.
So Cameron can be teammates with Konerko and Griffey after being traded for each of them about a decade ago.
by asinwreck on Jul 31, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of exciting if nothing else
Going to the game next Wednesday, it would be cool to see Junior in sox uniform …but then again we have something else to worry about besides the games being cool.
This trade is such a shocker that the whole internet is buzzing to death … sox junior,junior sox,
and why are we wasting time speculating where he is going to play. Let’s wait until Ozzie comes out and tells us what’s gonna happen.
by LT_sox_fan on Jul 31, 2008 12:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
let's wait until ozzie
tells us all, the media and the fans, to go fuck ourselves because we’re going apeshit over nothing. that would be classic ozzie.
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 31, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he actually uses the word "fuck", we automatically go on a 5 game winning streak.
by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 31, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hasn't he in the past?
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 31, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The place where old people come to die = U.S. Cellular Field
by LT_sox_fan on Jul 31, 2008 12:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember the "These Kids Can Play" Sox
Those were the days
by joewho112 on Jul 31, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah man, magz and carlos young, buerhle and garland just starting to show their stuff … oh yeah
by LT_sox_fan on Jul 31, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More intriguing possibilities:
From PECOTA’s splits:
PK weighted mean vs. LHP: .281/.374/.504
KGjr weighted mean vs. RHP: .274/.365/.513
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Jul 31, 2008 12:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and potentially well above average performance.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Jul 31, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you cannot platton a HOFer colin
ask Hawk
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 31, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Score 670 Chicago reports that the White Sox are close to acquiring John Lannan from the Nationals.
It’s unknown just who the Chicago would be sending over in the deal, but this is Jim Bowden we’re dealing with, so anything is possible. Lannan is arbitration eligible through 2013, and he can keep the ball on the ground, which would make him a nice fit in Chicago.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 1:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Contreras! Bowden wants Contreras!
Make it so, SSH.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Jul 31, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But, but,
but I thought we liked the geezers?
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like john lannan...
hopefully we can make it happen
i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry
by furby2056 on Jul 31, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so much for speed and defense
If we get Big Hurt back we will have cornered the market on designated hitters. I hope there is another shoe to drop.
by spadog on Jul 31, 2008 1:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
we have two SS manning the middle infield and a would be gold glover back in a few days
the only big time fly ball pitcher on this team is Javy and we play half our games in one of the smaller OFs in MLB.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Jul 31, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
but we still have some big parks to go to…Oakland, New York, KC,(twice).a lot of green space in those parks.
by spadog on Jul 31, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention
If it is Swish who goes to first; that infield defense is pretty damn solid.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quote from Will Carroll
Here’s a weird quote from a source: "If the Twins can move someone, they’ll call up Francisco Liriano." That’s "if" not "when."
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Jul 31, 2008 1:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
dudes, be happy we didn't get Bonds instead
Now that would have been a disaster!
by LT_sox_fan on Jul 31, 2008 1:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ozzie and Bonds
in the clubhouse fighting with Little Joey trying to break it up…that is drama kids, drama.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm happy about that, even if WU thinks it's lame.
I don’t think Ozzie would tolerate Bonds as we know him.
We’ll find out how he does with Jr. possibly kicking and screaming on his way to first base.
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm talking about his bat only
not his chemistry. Just was making a point that I’m really not initially excited by this move.
shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.
by winningugly on Jul 31, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotcha.
So misunderstood today…must be all the cold meds.
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do like this dealing with the shittier GMs
Stay away from Atlanta and Oakland and deal with Cincy, Natties, Dodgers, etc.
by madvillian on Jul 31, 2008 1:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
masset speaks
“Kenny said he really had to make a move right now to get another bat in the lineup,” Masset told MLB.com of his talk with White Sox general manager Ken Williams in regard to being part of the Griffey trade, which also sent infielder Danny Richar to the Reds, and is pending approval from the Commissioner’s Office.http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080731&content_id=3231052&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws“He also told me how this helps me, giving me the opportunity to be a starter,” Masset added. “He said that he put in some good words about me to the Reds. I really respect Kenny for that part. I think it’s going to be a win-win situation for both teams.”
...
“Ultimately, I think it’s going to really open up my future as a starter,” said Masset of the move to the Reds. “I’m really looking forward to being a starter, if that’s where they want me to fit.“That’s something I always wanted to do, and I’m excited to head over to the National League. But I also have a lot of great friendships with the guys over here, and it’s tough leaving a first place team in contention for the playoffs. It’s tough leaving the White Sox.”
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 31, 2008 1:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ah geee now I feel bad.
Of course Kenny is going to say nice words about him! He is trying to increase his value…he isn’t going to say that Coop told him 8,000 times not to throw is fastball over the heart of the plate on a consistent basis and he still did.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, of course Massett is happy to be heading to the NL
He might actually have a prayer of sticking around now.
by madvillian on Jul 31, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whew that was close
another week of action and NO ONE would have taken him.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
classy last words from Masset
thats always nice to see
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Jul 31, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good for when we get him back in 12 years
I’m sure I’ll see him at Fantasy Camp when I’m 65.
shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.
by winningugly on Jul 31, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you're 65? Did you forget to take your meds?
IIRC, that was 26 years ago!
OPOS!
read the whole thing you stroke artist - kenwo4life
by rhythm on Jul 31, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs should send KW a thank you note
What, figure 3 starts a year against Masset?
Coffee is for closers.
by vince_ on Jul 31, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How could the guy not be happy.. NL hitting he must feel like he won the lottery today. He gets to be a starter, and it’s in the national league for a team no one pays attention to.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
last time I'll be using this
(sniff, sniff)
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by thecip on Jul 31, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Never say never!
The occasion will arise again!
But just in case….last time I’ll rec this. :(
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't think this is the last we've seen of the magic man.
abracadabra holmes.
fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!
by MarketMaker on Jul 31, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So ... who do we think the Nats'll take for Lannan?
Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN
by gafferland on Jul 31, 2008 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Now I'm hearing that the Sox are close to acquiring...
Joel Hanrahan, not John Lannan.
In that case, this would be a great trade. A righty with a lot of strikeouts.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bowden will want a lot...
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So ...
Kwame Brown and Javaris Crittenton?
Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN
by gafferland on Jul 31, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
good stuff gaffers
i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry
by furby2056 on Jul 31, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bas-ket-ball?
Oooo is there a trade machine we can play with here?
I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 31, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that would be a nice pickup
But gee who will they take since Masset is gone?
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
makes sense
at least more sense than Lannan. He would command too much in trade… unless Bowden wants Owens back.
I cannot answer any more questions for you today. I has wickeds gas from drink too manys redbull.
by Marlafar on Jul 31, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont know
Hope we can land him…he is young enough…has some control issues but coop is great with young guys…I think it will improve the team
Ground ball to first, and the White Sox have won the Pennant!
by beanohatesthecubs on Jul 31, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on KDub!
Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN
by gafferland on Jul 31, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This fits the KW MO out of the pen (one I completely agree with)
Hard tossers with some control issues that can be fixed with proper coaching. Get them on a discount and let Cooper work with them. There have been some flameouts sure, but high K guys are what I think you want (over everything else) out of the pen and these are low risk high reward types.
by madvillian on Jul 31, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just looked at Masset's stats
My god this guy is bad: 57K to 49BB and a 1.781 WHIP. Thank god he’s gone.
by madvillian on Jul 31, 2008 1:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
is griffey
our sack of beans?
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 31, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sack of Hall of Fame Beans
Coffee is for closers.
by vince_ on Jul 31, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Addition by subtraction!
BTW, I was thinking – maybe give Richard a shot in the pen? He seems like he can amp himself up to hit 94-95 when he’s going all out, and he looked decent the 1st time through the lineups in his two starts, no?
Coffee is for closers.
by vince_ on Jul 31, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking that exact same thing this morning.
Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN
by gafferland on Jul 31, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. Assuming Logan levels I don't want to start screwing with Richard if the team doesnt need to
He is lookng more rhp.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe that's
the way to look at this trade; it’s not about getting Griffey but about unloading Masset. He’s numbers sucked, but he was useless in key situations.
by VAChisox on Jul 31, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what if
If Clayton Richard is moved to the pen and replaces Logan… is that a good thing? Is he better than Logan?
I cannot answer any more questions for you today. I has wickeds gas from drink too manys redbull.
by Marlafar on Jul 31, 2008 1:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
cincy reaction
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=SPT
they say that KW chased them down to make this trade. Gotta wonder why the Reds took a 2b prospect though.
by spadog on Jul 31, 2008 1:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
they're trying to look to the griff faithful
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 31, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Richar was originally a SS...
Maybe they try to move him back there.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take a mediocre prospect and try to wedge him in out of position.
Yup, sounds like the Reds.
by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 31, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sox tried to "wedge" him in as a SS
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
SS=2B...f'ing subway has damaged my brain.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
trying to look good
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 31, 2008 1:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's talk lefty relievers
David O’Brien names the Red Sox, Cardinals, Rays, Tigers, and White Sox parties interested in Will Ohman.http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/07/lefty-relievers.html
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 31, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Griffey to play RF and DH...
He didnt approve the trade immediately because he was concerned about his ability to play CF. He was assured by White Sox GM Kenny Williams that he’d be playing some RF and doing some DH-ing as well… and that the Sox were confident enough in his ability to get jumps on balls and in his overall instincts that he wouldnt be a detriment in center…
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 1:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Unless they are shipping out Thome
I am very confused as to how they are going to fit this roster into a line-up
by joewho112 on Jul 31, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grrrrr. I hope KW was just saying that to smoov over the situation and make the deal.
I hope he really meant “1st base and DH when Thome needs a day off.”
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Even Jr knows he can’t play CF. Now that is a first.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's as bout as frank as you'd get before the deal was made, I like that
Of course they aren’t going to say, “Well Jr., to get some playing time you probably will have to play some 1B, or hope that JD doesn’t midn playing some 1B”, otherwise you’ll be giving Thome a day off once a week and Dye a day off once every 10 days, enjoy your chance to make the playoffs as a bench player.
I’m glad KW and Griffey both know he can’t play CF.
by madvillian on Jul 31, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Super fan question?
“Ummm what do the Sox do in the NL park games during the World Series my friend…..”
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 2:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You my friend are NOT a Super Fan.
The question is who starts in the WS the next 3 years.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Easy
BA plays CF, Swish plays 1B and Thome, Konerko and Griffey come of the bench.
Or, Q! plays all 9 positions.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we nickname Q Bugs Bunny?
Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN
by gafferland on Jul 31, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Griffey in CF, Dye in RF, Swish at 1B, Thome off the bench pinch hitter.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Konerko?
helping the bat boy out?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha!
I doubt he’ll even be able to handle that. He looked awful moving for a foul ball down the line last night.
by Illini0509 on Jul 31, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Konerko.
Moral support.
He’s got such a great attitude, that one.
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
doubt it
we all know that konerko loves slamming bats on the ground, that won’t make the bat boy happy
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Jul 31, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you're saying the bat boy
and Konerko are not on speaking terms? We need to get that pudgy bat boy from “The Natural”...with the special bat. That’ll turn Paulie around. Then that bitch Kim Bassinger will shoot him in the gut…..
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um, Barbara Hershey?
Kim only threatened it.
shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.
by winningugly on Jul 31, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Comments on the Griffey trade...
Dusty Baker on the trade of Ken Griffey Jr. to the Chicago White Sox:“I hate to see Junior go. Junior was one of the best superstars I’ve ever been around. I think it’s good for him. He’s a lot closer to the top—to winning.”
“They wanted Junior badly. We didn’t approach them. They approached us.”
The call from the White Sox came during last night’s game.
“I was surprised when I came in after the game and was told what transpired,” Baker said. “I want him happy. I hope the players we got are happy with us.”
Baker doesn’t know if this means the Reds keep Adam Dunn.
“I don’t know,” he said.
“Marty Brennaman on the trade”
Ken Griffey Jr. and Marty Brennaman rode on the elevator at the Mayflower Hotel after the team arrived in Washington at 5 a.m. this morning. Brennaman was going to the sixth floor, Griffey the seventh.“When the elevators stopped at my floor he put his briefcase up and stopped the door,” Brennaman said. “I said, ‘He want to thank you. You’ve been very fair. I appreciate that.”
“I said, ‘What are you talking about?’”
“He said, ‘I’ve been traded.’”
“I said, ‘Get out of here. I don’t believe it. Where?’ He said Chicago. He showed me an email he had on his phone from (his agent) Brian Goldberg.”
Griffey and Brennaman talked for 15 minutes.
“It was very poignant,” Brennaman said. “He told me he wouldn’t change a thing. He was glad to put on the same uniform his dad did for nine years.”
Breennaman said Griffey told him he until 1 p.m. today to approve the trade.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 2:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It had Marcellus Wallace's soul in it.
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
LOL!
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
that’s a + comment
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Jul 31, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or dirty laundry.
Probably dirty laundry.
But I bet the case was engraved: “Bad Motherfucker Jr”
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats gold jerry!!
I tell myself, 'You are a superstar, don't worry about it. You'll be all right.' - Carlos Gomez
by omnipotent grab on Jul 31, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus, Edmonds is ridiculous...
and the Brewers suck balls.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 2:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I give credit where its due
Big series and they handled their buisness.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, a 4-game sweep of the Twins in the Twinkiedome would have been beautiful.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah if only their bullpen was as craptacular
But, a thumbs up for handling Sheets and CC, and letting the city increase its IQ for a few days while all the Cubs fans drove up north for the games.
I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 31, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Verlander lit up again.
He was better lately but man has he been a disappointment this season.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lefties have been his downfall this year
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Jul 31, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bay to the Rays
Jason Bay Traded To Rays
By Tim Dierkes [July 31 at 2:11pm CST]
MLB.com’s Bill Chastain with the scoop – the Rays have acquired Jason Bay for Reid Brignac and Jeff Niemann. The Rays haven’t confirmed it yet though.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 2:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I'm a bit of a pessimist
but that’s all it took?
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Jul 31, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would Poreda, Fields Getz
been enough considering what TB allegedly gave up?
by Illini0509 on Jul 31, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no kidding. i kept hearing price would have to be included.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 31, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a lot
shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.
by winningugly on Jul 31, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes Baby!
If I would have known Larry that the Rays would add Bay I NEVER would have made that wager. Do over.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too late, haha.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You lose your camaro too?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guess this ends the Manny talks?
by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't think so?
Supposedly it’s Marlins-Red Sox-MYSTERY TEAM atm
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Jul 31, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mystery team = Packers
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better yet - let's get him for quarterback on the Bears!
I bet he’d do better than Rexy.
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manny to the White Sox?
Can never have too many corner OF’ers/DH’s.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol!
Our whole line-up would be power-hitters. You’d never see another bunt.
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We see bunts?
I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 31, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
attempted bunt perhaps.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 31, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha, good points, both of you.
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Say that five times fast….
Jason Bay traded to the Tampa Bay Rays
Jason Bay traded to the Tampa Bay Rays
Jason Bay traded to the Tampa Bay Rays
Jason Ray traded to the Tampa Ray Bays
Jason Gray traded to the Tampa Fray Blays
I cannot answer any more questions for you today. I has wickeds gas from drink too manys redbull.
by Marlafar on Jul 31, 2008 2:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Question
Assuming Swish moeves to 1st, could Q or Dye play CF and move Jr to the corner?
I wish he was in my fantasy league. id bury that cocksucker- KenWo4Life
by Hawk is God on Jul 31, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that should read "clearly not"
or clearly
/dripping with sarcasm
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Jul 31, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is drool coming out of your mouth?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The lineup for YOUR 2009 Chicago White Sox
1. Barry Bonds
2. Frank Thomas
2. Grif
4. Thome
5. Dye
6. Big Sexy
7. Manny
8. Um … Tejada. Why not?
9. John Kruk
Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN
by gafferland on Jul 31, 2008 2:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
10 Runs on 10 hits (all HRs) with 12 Errors every night
by joewho112 on Jul 31, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't think Krukie could handle his bizz at Short?
Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN
by gafferland on Jul 31, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Kruk could handle bending at the waist
by joewho112 on Jul 31, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could just lay down halfway between teh bags and let the balls come to him!
Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN
by gafferland on Jul 31, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
isn't he like 5'8"? him just plopping himself down on his ass probably provides as much surface area as lying down, with much more comfort.
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 31, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
17 balls between them all
Show mercy. I get to watch the Rangers.
by Tim from Texas on Jul 31, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whose big sexy?
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 31, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BA is Slightly Below Average Sexy
Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN
by gafferland on Jul 31, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
though i would argue that
BA has more sexiness per inch
...ambiguity as to upward or forward inches intended
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Jul 31, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Richie Sexson
Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN
by gafferland on Jul 31, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
GWalker is creaming himself
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best of the day.
And there have been many good ones.
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on Jul 31, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joel Hanrahan to the White Sox?
Nationals writer Bill Ladson wrote:
“White Sox interested in Nats’ Hanrahan”There are reports that the White Sox have interest in right-hander Joel Hanrahan. It’s not known what the Nationals want in return. As of 3:00 p.m. ET, Hanrahan didn’t hear anything about being traded to the White Sox.
There was an earlier report that the White Sox were close to acquiring Nationals left-hander John Lannan, but he is the ace of Washington’s staff and they have nothing to replace him.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 2:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
his home/road splits
are fairly wide, 1.07 vs. 1.60 whip. isn’t nationals park a pitchers park. dude’s k/9 is good, but k/bb not so great.
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 31, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about Jack Hannahan
or Harry Callahan?
by The Actual El Guapo on Jul 31, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tommy Hanrahan?
Have to wonder about his wife, though…
--Torch
by torch on Jul 31, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Thome's part of a trade for a healthy third basemen.
by SoxfaninAZ on Jul 31, 2008 2:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Vance law
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
eric chavez on the way.
regards,
billy beane
"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 31, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
for all you news junkies
KW just pulled into his parking spot at the cell. supposedly meeting with the press soon.
by larry on Jul 31, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Larry's tracking device is still working
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
he must be in the men’s room now relieving himself
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 31, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you tell 'em, kenny
“Our intent is to win the American League Central division and ultimately, to win another World Series championship,” said Ken Williams, White Sox general manager. “Adding a player the caliber of Ken Griffey Jr. gives us a better chance to realize those goals. Griffey’s addition gives Ozzie (Guillen) more flexibility. Ozzie has the opportunity to field his best team – offensively and defensively – on a day-to-day basis over the next two months, and this gives us the chance to keep some of our middle of the order hitters fresh and producing down the stretch. I spoke with Ken, and he is excited to be coming to Chicago to try and help us reach the postseason.”
and since i know everyone has been waiting to put in their order, he’s going to wear #17.
by larry on Jul 31, 2008 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i thought kenny doesn't care
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 31, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good, I can finally wear my Erstad jersey
with some black tape, I can convert it into a Griffey.
Like that idiot in Minnesota with the AJ jersey turned into a Mauer.
I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator
by Nordhagen on Jul 31, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How could they disrespect Erstad
by giving away his number like that? Less than a year later? Give the man some respect.
by Off the bus running on Jul 31, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it wasn't erstad's number
it’s the designated ‘I may or may not deserve to be out of baseball but I definitely shouldn’t be the Sox CF’ number
by Trooper on Jul 31, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
press release
Yhe Chicago White Sox have acquired Hall of Fame-bound outfielder Ken Griffey Jr. and cash considerations from the Cincinnati Reds in exchange for pitcher Nick Masset and infielder Danny Richar.http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20080731&content_id=3231207&vkey=pr_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws
...
Griffey, who is expected to join the White Sox Friday in Kansas City, is signed through 2008 with a club option for 2009. He will wear uniform No. 17.
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 31, 2008 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme..
but 17 is my lucky number.
17 letters in name. Born at 17:17. Chiburb’s bday – the 17th.
Always been my favorite number.
Hope that foreshadows good things for White Sox Griffey!!
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would call bull
but I don’t think you were cmomenting here durng the awful Erstad days, so maybe there’s something to it :)
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Jul 31, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True stuff.
If Chiburb were around, I’d ask for some back-up….but alas….one of us is working today.
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the 17th month, of the 17th year
"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-
by Hazymania on Jul 31, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mark grace was my favorite cubs player and he...
i can’t even say that with a straight face. fuck mark grace.
He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 31, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
from mlbtraderumors
jeff blair is reporting a source may use one of their outfield-DH type players to get some pitching help
<http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080731.WBbaseball20080731143314/WBStory/WBbaseball/?page=rss&id=RTGAM.20080731.WBbaseball20080731143314>
i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry
by furby2056 on Jul 31, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oh those canadian jokesters!
we know baseball, eh?
by Trooper on Jul 31, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t all the Sox DH/OF types have complete NTCs? Doesn’t Dye has a 100% complete NTC for 2008? Thome too? PK 10-5? Are they trading Quentin? Swisher?
Sounds bunk.
I cannot answer any more questions for you today. I has wickeds gas from drink too manys redbull.
by Marlafar on Jul 31, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who cares about the NTCs? which of those guys wouldn't take a trade if the team said they didn't want them anymore?
maybe dye, but that would be the unlikeliest of the 3 to trade.
by Trooper on Jul 31, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't paid close attn to posts lately.
Is the consensus that Linebrink won’t be back for 3 weeks to a month, if at all?
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on Jul 31, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
idk but i can't help but be a little disappointed that kenny didn't get another reliever
or a starter…
i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry
by furby2056 on Jul 31, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, basically...
herm is attaching a new arm and therapy will take a little while.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are assuming anyone would want them, other than Dye. To quote JP Riccardi “Someone has to want you to be traded”
I cannot answer any more questions for you today. I has wickeds gas from drink too manys redbull.
by Marlafar on Jul 31, 2008 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Early Returns, by Joe Sheehan
... Now, there are a lot of permutations here, and not a single one looks attractive. Neither Dye nor Quentin is equipped to move to center field for more than an inning or so. Griffey isn’t remotely a center fielder any longer, and an outfield featuring those three in any configuration, well, you probably can hear Javier Vazquez’s teeth grinding as he contemplates the idea. You can’t sit Thome, who’s a better hitter than Griffey. If you give Konerko’s playing time to Griffey, you force either Swisher to first base, Griffey to the outfield and Vazquez to a dentist, or Thome to first base. The Sox have had Thome don a glove four times in three seasons, and if they go that route, they run the risk of off-field drama as Konerko adjusts to the bench and his legions of fans in Chicago go nuts. Keep something else in mind: the only one of the five players Griffey is better than, and even this is arguable, is Konerko.http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=7886The Sox gave up so little that you can’t fault them for making the deal, but it’s not clear what it does for them. Griffey would make a neat pinch-hitter and occasional starter for any of the players involved, but he’s inferior to almost all of them, and as such shouldn’t be playing regularly over any of them. The optimal alignment here is probably a Griffey/Konerko platoon, with Griffey playing first base. Anything else, anything that takes Swisher out of center field—and he isn’t Dwayne Murphy—or puts a glove on Thome could cancel out whatever small offensive boost Griffey brings. It’s a fascinating situation, and like the Tigers/Yankees deal, a situation in which the analysis of a trade has to go beyond the players and take into account the context of the teams.
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 31, 2008 3:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well Joe, there is one permutation that looks attractive -- and you named it
Griffey as a platoon player off the bench.
by madvillian on Jul 31, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade Deadline Roundup
http://deadspin.com/5031687/trade-deadline-roundup
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 31, 2008 3:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That would have been insta-orgasm in 1998
I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 31, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
10 years too late.
Need foreplay now.
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know what, i'm excited
I’m not sure how this “fits” with the rest of the team, but I know that we added Griffey without losing anyone of value on this year’s team. I also know that he is really likable and it will be fun to see that batting stance swagger for the rest of the year.
by shaftr on Jul 31, 2008 3:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I haven't been this excited since they signed Jose Conseco
"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)
by tailgater on Jul 31, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it will be fun to see that batting stance swagger for the rest of the year
unless he konerkoes it
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 31, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i love his swing
it’s just so beautiful.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Jul 31, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have liked the trade more if he was 10 years younger and didn't suck in the field...
but oh well. A big positive to the trade was dumping Masset and Richar didn’t have a role with Beckham being drafted.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
really?
I was thinking this trade would suck if they got the best player in baseball for masset and richar.
by Trooper on Jul 31, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 31, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manny to the Dodgers
per CBSSportsline:
The saga is over. Manny Ramirez is going to the Dodgers and Jason Bay will replace him in left field at Fenway Park after a three-way trade is completed between Boston, L.A. and the Pirates, Scott Miller reports.
by Ryno on Jul 31, 2008 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Manny To Dodgers, Bay To Red Sox
3:39pm: Bob Nightengale has the Bucs getting Craig Hansen and Brandon Moss from the Red Sox and Andy LaRoche and Bryan Morris from the Dodgers, correcting what looks like a typo in the Rosenthal report.http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/07/manny-to-dodger.html3:37pm: Rosenthal has details:
Pirates outfielder Jason Bay is headed to the Red Sox. The Pirates will receive Andy LaRoche and right-hander Bryan Morris from the Dodgers and outfielder Damien Moss and releiver Craig Hansen from the Red Sox.
3:30pm: According to SI.com’s Jon Heyman. Jack Curry agrees.
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 31, 2008 3:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wowza
I did not think the Red Sox had the balls at all to trade Manny, but that Theo is a crazy bitch.
Doesn’t CC want to sign with the Dodgers after this year as well?
I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 31, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manny To Dodgers, Bay To Red Sox
3:39pm: Bob Nightengale has the Bucs getting Craig Hansen and Brandon Moss from the Red Sox and Andy LaRoche and Bryan Morris from the Dodgers, correcting what looks like a typo in the Rosenthal report.http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/07/manny-to-dodger.html3:37pm: Rosenthal has details:
Pirates outfielder Jason Bay is headed to the Red Sox. The Pirates will receive Andy LaRoche and right-hander Bryan Morris from the Dodgers and outfielder Damien Moss and releiver Craig Hansen from the Red Sox.
3:30pm: According to SI.com’s Jon Heyman. Jack Curry agrees.
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 31, 2008 3:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If this happens
Ortiz will suddenly not be as good as he has been. He can blame it on an injury, but it’s been Manny behind him that helps him the most. I can’t stand that guy and his bs. Here’s hoping they knock his fat ass down every other at bat so we can watch him pick himself up like rhino on a ski slope.
I’ll take my pill and rest now.
Show mercy. I get to watch the Rangers.
by Tim from Texas on Jul 31, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good...get him out of the A.L.
"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)
by tailgater on Jul 31, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happened to the Rays deal?
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Jul 31, 2008 3:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pirates wanted Niemann switched out
I believe (assuming for Price?)
by Illini0509 on Jul 31, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard that the Rays didn't want to give up Brignac...
so not Jason Bay is headed to the Red Sox to play LF.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happened to the Rays deal?
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Jul 31, 2008 3:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
fuckin hell SBN
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Jul 31, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the intertubes are slow
they shouldn’t have indicted ted stevens, now the tubes are a mess
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 31, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
that 'Manny To Dodgers, Bay To Red Sox' took 5 minutes to post after hitting 'post'
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 31, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my internets seem to be tangled as well.
fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!
by MarketMaker on Jul 31, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best news of the day
Twins silent.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2008 3:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
specially given that Carroll rumor
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by colintj on Jul 31, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They usually are at the deadline.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have loved for the Sox to get Hanrahan...
Oh well.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 3:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
did the deadline pass?
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by colintj on Jul 31, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what deadline?
i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry
by furby2056 on Jul 31, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
colin ignores deadlines
:p
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 31, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
All the news usually leaks out an hour or so after the deadline. I’m assuming Kenny couldn’t complete a deal for him.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
waiver deals for relievers are still pretty doable.
it ain’t all over
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by colintj on Jul 31, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i'm pretty optimistic something will come up
i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry
by furby2056 on Jul 31, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah who knows hopefully a waiver deal comes around or some completely unannounced trade comes in
i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry
by furby2056 on Jul 31, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm assuming the Sox...
make some sort of roster move today. As much as carrying twelve pitchers is needless, the Sox seem committed to the notion.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jul 31, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yah i did some speculating on that
my guess is send wise down and bring up russell
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Jul 31, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
seems probable to me
BA is right handed and we need his defense.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Jul 31, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Wise will be sent down...
but I wouldn’t be surprised if they call up MacDougal. He has actually had a few good outings in a row.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Jul 31, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My sanity needs The Arsonist back on this team like
Joe Crede needs a dropkick to the lower spine.
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by colintj on Jul 31, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am out of my GD mind today on meds
yet recognize tremendous wit and insight when I (blearily) see it. However, I must interject 2 things:
1. Cheat, where is the obit for Chicago Pete? It’s Thursday. You promised.
2. Speaking of CP, no one has mentioned the obvious reason for the KGJ trade (as Pete, God rest His soul, would surely have said) is to PUMP UP THE GATE! When he hits his 600th dinger sirens will shriek, rainbows will appear without rain, birds will…(What? He’s already hit his 600th?)
Never mind.
shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.
by winningugly on Jul 31, 2008 4:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Besides the quote from the press release...
has there been any word from Kenny or Ozzie yet? I’d like to have something from the ‘horses mouth’ to go on other than the mindless “talk radio” speculation on the extent of Griffey’s role.
by CWSKeith on Jul 31, 2008 4:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
In other news...
I don’t know if anyone cares, but the A’s activated Frank Thomas from the DL today. I’m still rooting for the big man.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jul 31, 2008 4:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey dickbombs, I wrote something else.
this thread is kaput anyway. takes ages to load a comment.
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by colintj on Jul 31, 2008 4:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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