Brewers, Indians agree on Sabathia

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LaPorta and who I wonder?

Either way I’m not looking forward to seeing LaPorta suit up for the Indians. His translated line, according to the DTs, is .259/.350/.522. That’s a pretty significant boost to a lagging offense. Gamel, fwiw, is hitting a translated .330/.383/.568. Not too shabby, but his ISO and BB rate aren’t as nice. I wonder if he can actually hit over .300 once he gets called up.

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by colintj on Jul 6, 2008 6:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Man, that Huntington team is loaded.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/MIL/2008_orgbat.shtml>They’ve got legit prospects at catcher, first, short, third and a couple outfielders. One fewer without LaPorta, of course.

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by colintj on Jul 6, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bleh

having to use quote for a href is suxxorz

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by colintj on Jul 6, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd rather the Sox face some guys who may or may not pan out...

than see the Indians lock up Sabathia and have the Sox face him for years.

by SSH2005 on Jul 6, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Top ten pick who has done nothing but mash and has clearly mastered AA

What odds would you put on him flaming out that you wouldn’t put on a Sabathia arm injury?

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by colintj on Jul 6, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sabathia is a proven ace when healthy...

although he has to stay healthy, like you say.

LaPorta will probably be a stud but he could bust out, you never know. Sabathia was always like the Indians version of Santana to the Sox. I’d rather the Sox face the possibility of a good hitter.

by SSH2005 on Jul 6, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i generally agree with that

ace >> very good hitter. if the guy ends up being a superstar and cc blows out his arm, of course…but that caveat aside.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 6, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

so we have no idea what the odds LaPorta will bust are? or the possibility of Sabathia injury?

that makes it hard to evaluate this trade.

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by colintj on Jul 6, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eh, it's a matter of preference

For once, I don’t think SSH is being unreasonable.

Adam Lind comes to mind. Casey Kotchman hasn’t met expectations. Brandon Wood has regressed. Remember Jeremy Reed?

I think Cleveland got a good return in Laporta, but sometimes guys hit a wall in the majors. At any rate, the brief respite will be nice.

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by Sox Machine on Jul 6, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think SSH is clearly wrong either. He's definitely right if we're talking max 3-4 year deal.

The Brewers have had a hell of a system of late and it doesnt seem to be a product of luck. Assorted insiders have said quite a lot so far about the guy running the Brewers’ drafts. I’m inclined to believe, particularly since they reached so high for him, that LaPorta is special. If Reed, Lind, Kotchman and Wood have a similar pedigree, I’m unaware of it.

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by colintj on Jul 6, 2008 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Forgot to mention the whole "college first baseman" thing too

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by colintj on Jul 6, 2008 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i'm on board with ssh on this one.

i think the odds of a single guy beating the sox on any given night are a lot higher if he’s toeing the rubber than if he’s stepping in the box.

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by MarketMaker on Jul 6, 2008 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

definitely agree

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by colintj on Jul 6, 2008 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

but he gets 3 or 4 games a series to do it...

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 7, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But with varying degrees of success versus the starters.

Might get owned by some of our pitchers and vice versa.

How do you fuck a nut?!

by omnipotent grab on Jul 7, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thats 4 Vs btw.

How do you fuck a nut?!

by omnipotent grab on Jul 7, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i guess it's all very subjective, huh?

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by MarketMaker on Jul 7, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just hope Milwaukee realizes home much more they'll have to

pony up for the pre-game buffet.

With Prince and C.C. digging in, well, you get the picture.

"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)

by tailgater on Jul 7, 2008 1:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

now if only they get ray king back

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 7, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Who gets him next year? Can Milwaukee afford him?

Inquiring minds want to know.

"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)

by tailgater on Jul 7, 2008 3:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Theyre on their way up.

Winning teams bring in crowds so I say theyll likely get into negotiating an extension asap.

How do you fuck a nut?!

by omnipotent grab on Jul 7, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nah, they're not going to. Sabathia is going to get out on the open market.

And the Brewers want the picks.

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by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We'll see in a few months.

I really dont hink you give away a player like Laporta if all your thinking is rental and some picks. They could have traded for another pitcher with a few years under control for a prospect like him.

How do you fuck a nut?!

by omnipotent grab on Jul 7, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

According to what I read (no link, no source, me fail)...er actually I think it was Olney

They are perfectly happy to stock up on picks. Lose Sheets and Sabathia and pick up 4 additional 1st rounders (well, 2 1sts and 2 Supps unless either of the teams that make the signing are in the top 15 and then you get 2 supps per signee, since top 15 is protected). Either way, that’s a ton of picks for a guy with the track record their dude has.

Besides, they have both Hart and Gamel. The collective difference between [those two, 3 months of Sabathia, 45% of whatever money they get from the playoffs (playoff money*chance you make the playoffs = expected return) and the 2 additional picks] and LaPorta et al. can’t be that great either way.

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by colintj on Jul 8, 2008 5:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs