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One thing I hate when browsing my feed reader is seeing nothing but apologies for lack of posting, so you won't find that here. I'll offer no apology for being too busy enjoying a wedding or a gorgeous holiday weekend. But the Sox, and the rest of the AL Central, haven't sat still in my absence, so rather than a game recap, I thought I'd just give a brief roundup on the last couple of weeks.

Jenks' Back Issues

Bobby Jenks hasn't pitched since June 28th, went for an MRI on his upper back, and although he was given a thumbs up, he might not be available for the first-half closing road trip. He wasn't exactly in top form over the last month, with just one 1-2-3 inning in his last 12 outings. And while the bullpen has hasn't been spectacular in Jenks' absence, with Scott Linebrink struggling, in particular, I'm not in any hurry for him to come back.

The first and most obvious reason is that I want a 100% healthy Jenks, not 85% or 95%, but 100%. And if that means a trip to the DL, so be it. (Remember we suffered through a 2006 season when seemingly everyone in the rotation could have used a break, and we know how that turned out.) Another reason is Matt Thornton, who has allowed just 12 hits while striking out 24 in his last 21 appearances.

Thornton would be my choice to close out games right now. I don't but much into the theory that there are guys who can pitch in high leverage 8th innings situations but can't hack it in the 9th, but it remove two guys who haven't exactly had success in their brief stints as closers. Linebrink has actually expressed a desire to stay out of that role. I've probably put too much time writing about this already, so I'll just stop now.

The Konerko Kwandry

In addition the Jenks/bullpen mess, Paul Konerko could be coming off the DL any day now. While conventional wisdom seems to be that his return will hasten the trade of Juan Uribe, I'd bet that the Sox would just as soon put Bobby on the DL and avoid rushed decision if Jenks is out much longer. Jenks will be eligible to be back after the All-Star break, giving the Sox extra time to make there roster decisions.

If Jenks returns to bullpen duty as usual, the roster crunch could get more complicated, which is another reason I don't think they should rush him back. Either Pablo Ozuna or Dewayne Wise could be DFAd, because nobody will bother to claim them, or Brian Anderson could be optioned, or Uribe could be gone to the Dodgers or Orioles.

As poorly as Uribe has played over the last two plus seasons, I have a hard time believing the Sox are a better team without him on the bench. Uribe, a quality glove man, is Sox best backup at 3 positions, even though he's only used at two of them, and offers some unusual pop for a bench middle-infield bat. And removing him from the roster would leave Ozuna as the primary backup at 2B, 3B, and I assume SS. Chris Getz, who has seen time at short in Charlotte this season, is only a phone call away, but that seems like a really thin infield, pun intended, if Uribe's no longer around.

All-Star Selections

Individually, I can understand why each player on the Sox Major League best pitching staff was left off the roster, but it's hard to figure out how that happens. The staff has combined for the lowest ERA in baseball while playing in a high run-scoring environment. How does everyone get left at home?

There's still the opportunity for the Sox to add one more with Jermaine Dye on the 32nd man ballot, but I think his road will be tougher than Scott Podsednik and AJ Pierzynski in front of him. In those elections, the Sox were able to Get Out The Vote thanks in large part to home series during the balloting. This meant a constant reminder in the form of a backstop graphic, and a stream of interviews in the booth and shots of teammates voting in the dugout. Those efforts will be considerably harder while on the road. So even though JD's only real competition is Jason Giambi, I don't expect him to make it.

Those Pesky Twins

I'm not a scoreboard watcher. I'm of the mind that if you take care of the opponents on your schedule, you won't have to worry about the rest of the division. Still, it's hard to ignore a 16-2 run.

The Twins started by beating up on the NL Central, and have continued to do the same this week sagainst the AL Central also-rans. I think it goes without saying that the Twins aren't going to continue to lose only 2 games every 3 weeks, but they're not be taken lightly. It's going to take more than 90 wins to take the division now. The good news is that 91 wins is 20 games over, and the Sox sit at 14 over right now.

The Sox have a soft schedule until they travel to Detroit and Minnesota in late July, which gives them another opportunity to gain some breathing room, and possibly creep towards that 20-over number. Maybe I'll start worrying about the nightly division standings then, but I doubt it.

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I think you missed the memo Cheat

It’s Kornerko now.

I believe in Harvey, Illinois

by Hazymania on Jul 7, 2008 2:21 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

But the Twins are amazing and will never lose games for the rest of the season arghh!!!111

As far as the closer situation goes. Linebrink doesn’t look comfortable in that role, and if he’s expressed desire to not close games, then shit don’t let him near a save opportunity this week unless the Sox are up big time.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 7, 2008 8:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Um, how would it be a save situation if the Sox were up "big time"?

He’s never, never going to pitch 3 innings in a game.

Has he stated that he doesn’t want to close? If so, it’s a no-brainer not to put him there. I’d rather see even Dotel in that situation than an uncomfortable Liney. (And how Cust didn’t cream that hanger yesterday in the 9th is another good omen for us – were very lucky re: the result.)

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by winningugly on Jul 7, 2008 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't like Linebrink as the closer...

but I don’t think that Dotel is a good option either because he walks too many guys. Dotel has a 1.31 WHIP.

I prefer playing the matchups like madvillian just posted below.

by SSH2005 on Jul 7, 2008 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I meant to say no save opportunities, and no 9th inning appearances

Unless there’s some kind of blowout at hand. And I don’t know if Linebrink said he didn’t like closing games, I was basing it off the recap.

Linebrink has actually expressed a desire to stay out of that role.

Jenks can’t be out for much longer, playing the matchups shouldn’t be a big deal.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 7, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

linebrink doesn't seem effective pitching more than one inning too

I may be wrong here since this is an impression on my mind and not backed up by any numbers

anyone else thinks the same?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 7, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he doesn't have a lot of experience, either here or elsewhere, doing so.

he’s pretty much been utilized as a one inning guy, and usually starting, and not coming in during, that inning.

the times he did it, what, in late april or early may for the sox i recall him doing adequately.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 7, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Closer By Committee is fine with me

Thornton if there are some lefties coming up, Dotel if there are more righties.

I’d like to keep Liney in the setup role. If he’s not comfortable closing then I wouldnt’ mess with his head and risk messing up the 8th inning monster that he is now.

by madvillian on Jul 7, 2008 9:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Adam Russell

Has closer stuff, I wonder if he will get a shot in the 9th.

by Rockraines on Jul 7, 2008 9:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Nessie should gradually get higher leverage innings

but I don’t think throwing him into the closer’s role right away is a good idea. It took Jenks a while to go from call-up to closer in ‘05.

From what I’ve seen so far I like Nessie over Masset and Logan, but not any of the other guys in the pen.

Coffee is for closers.

by vince_ on Jul 7, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is getting more obvious...

with Jenks losing his velocity and Lidge getting a big contract that Kenny will eventually have to trade Jenks in the not-so-distant future.

by SSH2005 on Jul 7, 2008 10:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jenks' loss of velocity + high-priced contracts for closers...

means that Jenks should be dealt sooner rather than later.

by SSH2005 on Jul 7, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should or Will? I think it’s your opinion they should, what suggests KW agrees with you?

Until the last few opportunities when he apparently was experiencing back pain, he was still pitching quite well with or without a ridiculous fastball.

I see no reason to trade a guy they have relatively cheaply for now in the not-so-distant future when just two or three weeks ago it could have been argued he should be in the all star game.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 7, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention

Look at what he paid Scott Linebrink and Octavio Dotel, what makes you think he won’t pay a better then average closer in his prime ? He obviously realizes the value of a solid bullpen.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 7, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

one might call that a classic KW sell high move.

while jenks was/is still getting it done, it is rather interesting and somewhat disconcerting how he was getting it done.

and bobby is about to get quite a bit more expensive now that he’ll be arbitration eligible.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 7, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking arbitration vs. free agency, but I guess it still won’t be cheap.

I just don’t see KW moving him, I think with Alexei, Q, Danks & Floyd playing at the levels they have it has changed KW’s long-term plan some. He’s got a solid core going forward and looking at how much he is spending on the bullpen I’d have to think he assumes Bobby will be a part of that core. If these guys had not turned out to be solid ball players, I think it would have been a lot more likely that they move Jenks.

KW has set himself up for at least the next 3 years it looks like to me, and I just don’t see him getting rid of the closer who is still getting it done on a team that is competing for division titles or more. I guess my main point is, I don’t see enough holes in this team the way it is currently built, that would warrant trading away your young closer.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 7, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you should probably be thinking arbitration/free agency/whatever v. cheap(er) in house options.

a closer with a k rate of 5 per 9 ip and trending downward tends to not be a closer for long.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 7, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll wait to judge until I see how much the backpain had to do with his performance over the last month or two before I judge his ability to be a closer going forward. Lots of guys look terrible when hurt.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 7, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you make a big deal out of this

Jenks injury thing then it will become a huge problem. The best thing to do is to ignore it and it will go away. I mean look at Tampa, they lost their closer right? And they’ve got the best record in MLB.

regards

Sox fan from England, marching on together

by hoodlight on Jul 7, 2008 11:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the best thing to do is ignore it and it will go away.

there you have it. ladies and gentlemen, sage wisdom that can be applied to all things courtesy of hoodlight.

regards

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

FWIW, if Jenks gets healthy and pitches well this season

I think trading him this offseason would be a great idea. Would Texas want him in exchange for someone like Teagarden? The Sox will need an OF (preferably CF) and 2B next season and they have no decent C/1B/DH prospects in the system. Moving Jenks to fill one of those needs would work for me.

by hitlesswonder on Jul 7, 2008 11:29 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why would we trade Bobby Jenks to fill a position we can fill through free agency? Considering Cabrera makes around 10, Thome around 10, Crede around 5, the sox can just fill those holes with free agents, keep the young talent we have.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 7, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you seen the list of free agents this offseason?

It’s unpretty. In particular, the Sox are are not going to find a good young catcher there.

by hitlesswonder on Jul 7, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

3B?

Umm….*mumbles about Josh Fields

gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them

by defensive indifference on Jul 7, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only potential FA is Hank Blalock...

could be intriguing but Rangers have an option on him.

by stanchar on Jul 7, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why would they be in need of a 3B?

Josh Fields has done nothing to prove he won’t be a major league ball player. He’ll be just fine in that 7 hole next year.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 7, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or Catcher?

In 2010 they’ll probably need one, AJP seems to have taken the offseason pretty seriously, he should be at least serviceable for one more year. Hall is a good enough back up catcher.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 7, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the year 20never

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 7, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, perhaps i should note that wieters is a boras client.

so if he ends up panning out and he keeps boras and boras continues to not have his players sign contracts that buy out FA years, i guess the answer is like 2017 or something. let’s start saving now.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 7, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly my point..

so why even mention there isn’t a good one on the market this year. It’s a given there won’t be any good young catchers available as a free agent, but AJ doesn’t look like he will be a liability for at least another year, so I’d think that isn’t on the top of KW’s concerns.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 7, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude....

You asked why the Sox should trade Jenks when they can just fill their holes through free agency. The answer is that they can’t fill their holes with FAs because there aren’t a lot of good FAs. I singled out C, but you can add in CF if you want. And you say there’s no point in mentioning that since there’s never any good FA catchers—but that’s the exact answer to your question. So I don’t know what you arguing about at this point.

C and CF are important long-term positions. It’s possible moving Jenks this offseason will get the Sox a good prospect at one of those positions. If the Sox wait, his value will only decline…perhaps precipitously. AJ is having a good season, but the Sox shouldn’t wait on lining up a successor given his age.

by hitlesswonder on Jul 7, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe we can get one in the draft...fuck. that already happened? did we get one? ...fuck.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

kevin dubler, 8th round, ill st.

supposed to be decent, but not exactly an insta-prospect.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 8, 2008 5:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cole armstrong is the current best bet

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 8, 2008 5:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

screw teagarden; I want smoak!

:p

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 7, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cheat

I think hit the nail on the head re: Uribe. We do not have a major league SS (even replacement level) in our syatem if we trade Uribe. Getz had never played SS in the minors before this year and 2B was his primary position in college. He is not a major league SS, he’s just playing the position at Charlotte because they’ve already started the competition for 2B next year so they want him and Richar to play middle infield every day. Ozuna can’t even play 3B. If something happens to Ocab we’d be in trouble. Not to mention the negative impact when O takes a day off.

With a league average fielder at SS with a replacement level bat (Uribe) you can still win. With a replacement level glove (let’s say -25 runs a year with the glove) and bat not so much. Unless we get a SS back (Hu?) it’s a no brainer to hold onto Uribe and DFA pablo.

by bhoov on Jul 7, 2008 11:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wouldn't alexei count as a replacement level major league ss?

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shh!

You ruined his argument!

Coffee is for closers.

by vince_ on Jul 8, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Something that has changed in the last month

If the playoffs started today, Twinnesota would be the wild card.

A month ago, we thought the only way the Sox would get in the playoffs is by winning the division, because our division was so far behind in the wild card race. Now our division is in the thick of it.

I still think we can beat the Twins for the division, but the wild card is winnable too, which just has to increase our playoff chances.

Coffee is for closers.

by vince_ on Jul 7, 2008 11:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn

It sure would be sweet seeing both the media darlings out east kept out of the playoffs. The TV stations would be PISSED!

by sti3 on Jul 7, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh that would be great

how long before john and jordan danks sit atop the brothers home run list?

by furby2056 on Jul 7, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The greatest thing in the world

Would be the White Sox, Rays, Brewers, and Diamondbacks be the teams making the pennant run.

Though I’m not sure about the Wild Card scenario. If the Sox keep winning at their rate, they should be fine. The Twins are good, but as Cheat pointed out, no team can bust out 16-2 clips all the time. If anything, the Twins breathing down the team’s back just gives them more motivation to keep playing hard after the All-Star break, something I’ve seen this team not do all too often.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 7, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and the legend continues (article from saturday)
... Quentin was the quintessential three-sport athlete. Though not a starter on the state championship basketball team, he stood out as a role player, as “the guy you’d put in to rebound and he’d grab 13, 14,” Green says. “He would do whatever the coach asked him and do it with this amazing sense of pride.”
...
Some, including Quentin, say football may have been his first love. He excelled at linebacker and H-back enough to garner Division I attention.

“He had an unbelievable desire to win every battle,” says Sean Doyle, his high school football coach, citing the city championship game his senior year in which Quentin forced and returned a fumble for the tying touchdown, then set up the game-winner with his running.

But it was baseball where Quentin made his biggest impression. As a high school underclassman, he hit a home run off the top of the scoreboard in left-center field at the University of San Diego stadium. In his senior year he hit one over the scoreboard, every bit of 400 feet-plus.
...
As a 12-year-old Quentin was 5 feet 9 inches and 140 pounds, and sported a mustache. His mom and dad sympathized with parents who complained that he was too big to play with their boys.

“No way was he going to play [Little League],” Queta says. “We were afraid he was going to hurt somebody. The poor little third baseman would be gone if he hit it hard.”

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/cs-080705-carlos-quentin-chicago-white-sox,1,4893290.story?page=2


rebounder, linebacker, returner

Q! can do it all!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 7, 2008 12:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wiz...

You have a Q! poster hanging on the ceiling over your bed don’t you?

I believe in Harvey, Illinois

by Hazymania on Jul 7, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

doesn't everybody in SSS have one?

:p

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 7, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah

Though I do sleep with the Q! plush doll every night.

It coos “good night little one” and “I am so awesome” when you squeeze it’s hands.

I believe in Harvey, Illinois

by Hazymania on Jul 7, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's what he says in real life, too.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Q!>>>>Patton and Eisenhower
"He had an unbelievable desire to win every battle,"

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 7, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Q! is so much bigger I can't type enough '>' signs to describe it

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 7, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Q! was alive in WWII

he would have invented the masset bomb that would have made all the germans as fat as uribe.

Thome is old and washed up.

I think i got everyone there.

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by thecip on Jul 7, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs


http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/stories/070708aab.html

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 7, 2008 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just got a chubby.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

look at him…got that trot downpat

how long before john and jordan danks sit atop the brothers home run list?

by furby2056 on Jul 8, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Twins get 3 against the Red Sox and 4 against the Tigers this week on the road...

Sox get 3 against the Royals and 3 against the Rangers on the road this week. Now would be the perfect time for the Sox to increase their lead right before the All-Star break.

by SSH2005 on Jul 7, 2008 1:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

red sox will be looking to beat some ass after losing two one run games to the yankees...

hopefully the sox capitalize and take care of business against the royals and rangers

how long before john and jordan danks sit atop the brothers home run list?

by furby2056 on Jul 7, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They are catching Boston at the right time. Hopefully the Tigers continue to show some spunk.

All I’m asking for is 3 games going into the break. For my health.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see it being the right time...

The Twins get to face the Red Sox top three starters — Dice-K, Lester, and Beckett. The Twinkies should lose at least two out of three, unless they are better than I think.

by SSH2005 on Jul 7, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So that would be the right time, in terms of helping the Sox put some space between 1st and 2nd place

When Pablo’s name shows up in the lineup, I die a little inside. - OM

by rhythm on Jul 7, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matchup: Twins (50-38) at Red Sox (52-39), 7:05 p.m. ET
Probable Starters: Scott Baker (69 IP, 3.65 RA, 1.20 WHIP, 57 K) vs. Daisuke Matsuzaka (75, 3.48, 1.39, 65)
Pythagorean Record: Minnesota, 47-41 (436 RS, 406 RA); Boston, 53-38 (453 RS, 377 RA)
Hit List Rankings: Minnesota, #11; Boston, #2
Prospectus: Minnesota enters Fenway for the start of a four-game set having won 16 of it last 18 games to pull within a game of first-place Chicago. Today’s contest features two pitchers with widely varying styles—Matsuzaka has walked 5.9 per nine, while Baker has passed only 1.6. Matsuzaka has had success against the Twins, who are not a very patient team, ranking 11th in the American League in walks: the right-hander beat Minnesota back in early May with seven innings of two-run ball, walking three while striking out seven, and he also beat them in his last start of 2007, with an eight-inning, two-run, 8/2 K/BB performance.

In the game Matsuzaka pitched against the Twins earlier this season, he managed to fan catcher Joe Mauer twice while walking him once. Mauer has struck out more than once in a game only twice this season, with the other occasion coming on June 21st against Arizona and Micah Owings. On the season, Mauer has struck out exactly half as often as he has walked, 23 whiffs to 46 free passes. Achieving that ratio over the course of a full season is an uncommon feat in today’s age of high power and high strikeouts: in the past 10 seasons, just five players have walked twice as many times as they’ve struck out while qualifying for the batting title: Luis Castillo in 2005, Barry Bonds from 2002-04, Mark Grace in 2000, Eric Young in ‘99, and Gary Sheffield in ‘98 (Bonds in ‘06 and ‘07 and Tony Gwynn in ‘99 also did so without qualifying for the batting crown). This season, both Mauer and Albert Pujols (58 walks, 28 strikeouts) are on pace to join that list. The last catcher that qualified for the batting title with twice as many walks as Ks was Mike Scioscia, in 1987 (Scioscia finished with a 2/1 ratio every year from 1984-87). Yogi Berra is the king of this category amongst catchers, with six such seasons in his Hall of Fame career, and 704 walks against 414 strikeouts overall. Mauer’s counterpart on the Red Sox, team captain Jason Varitek, has conversely struggled with strikeouts all year, and has racked up an AL-leading 70 in the final season of his four-year, $40 million contract.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 7, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just meant in terms of how they'd been playing lately

but it is good to see that they get Beckett, at least.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah would be nice

I am still not buying into the Twins yet…my gut won’t let me do it. I still think they are just a slightly above average team that is hot at the moment. I worry more about the Tigers – they have a lot of talent that has been underperforming but is starting to heat up. If Verlander gets going and they get some help for the starting pitching I will be worried.

Lets home the Twins and Tigers split while the Sox take 4 of 6 on the road.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 7, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chiicago media line of the day.

Phil Rogers’ MLB rankings: Sox at No. 3; Cubs at No. 4

“This marks the first time all season that the White Sox have been ahead of the Cubs in our rankings. If they can stay ahead of the Cubs, they should extend their lead over Minnesota and Detroit.”

Pitching, defense, health.

by ballyb on Jul 7, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely Amazing

Apparently the Cubs are in the same division as the White Sox, in Phil’s ranking system.

Roger’s certainly ranks high on the unintentional comedy scale. So he’s got that going for him, you know, which is nice.

When Pablo’s name shows up in the lineup, I die a little inside. - OM

by rhythm on Jul 7, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And then we wonder why everyone says Sox fans are obsessed with the Cubs

Help us out Phil, just let it go!

When Pablo’s name shows up in the lineup, I die a little inside. - OM

by rhythm on Jul 7, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That...that is stupid.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's so odd about it though?

Doesn’t everyone in the world have their MLB Power Rankings listed out pointlessly every week?

gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them

by defensive indifference on Jul 7, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that isn't the weird part. the weird part is the random presumption that if some voodoo power rankings based on

nothing more than What Phil Rogers Thinks has anything to do with the performance of the teams in question. what’s worse is that he’s decided, not so randomly, to make a meaningless juxtaposition between the Sox and Cubs in order to do all this.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh...

he’s writing in Chicago, for a Chicago audience. Why not compare the two teams people here probably know the most about? I don’t think Phil saying that equates to Sox fans only caring about the Cubs, or whatever. Were you expecting something more in-depth from the Tribune sports section? There’s the problem!!

gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them

by defensive indifference on Jul 7, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

because he compares apples to oranges and then throws in sausages?

i’m having trouble wrapping my head around how the sox staying ahead of the cubs in his rankings has much bearing on how the sox will stay ahead of the twins and tigers in the mlb standings.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 7, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know.

I’m having trouble wrapping my head around why you guys care. All of the biggest sports media outlets live off pointless statements like this.

gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them

by defensive indifference on Jul 7, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we care enough to make comments on the internet about it

if that’s too much for you, i guess i’m sorry or something.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't the medium of a blog

Necessitate that everything be talked about to the point of exhaustion?

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 7, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i should hope so. what the fuck is the point otherwise?

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, I'd rather just post like..

“woohoo, CC is DEAD!!! SOX FEVER”.

Or…mayber discuss your level of sanity. *shrug

gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them

by defensive indifference on Jul 7, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

shows what you know. you aren't a real blogger.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a gamer.

How do you fuck a nut?!

by omnipotent grab on Jul 7, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i had sex with your wife.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 7, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I watched.

How do you fuck a nut?!

by omnipotent grab on Jul 7, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah. it was hilarious when you tried to jump in and she just slapped your dick out of her face.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 7, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, you weren't there.

she was in a coma and woke up just when omni was trying to get in on the action. priceless.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 7, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually after this story

You’re definitely Barry Zuckercorn.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 7, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

larry as Barry Zuckerkorn works very well.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so can i exonify him as barry zuckerkorn

i don’t care if it’s not a word i like it…

how long before john and jordan danks sit atop the brothers home run list?

by furby2056 on Jul 7, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was denied.

Story of my life.

How do you fuck a nut?!

by omnipotent grab on Jul 7, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you want a slam dunk

head over to the “have you seen this funny sign?” fan post and follow the link to lostinthevines’ house.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 7, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lostinthevines just got quadruple pwned!

nice play!

When Pablo’s name shows up in the lineup, I die a little inside. - OM

by rhythm on Jul 7, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I helped!

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Retard strength is potent stuff.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you want some positive vibes?

Fuck that shit.

Phil Rogers is a dumbass, and since he isn’t getting fired for being an idiot, it makes me laugh when 4-5 people on this blog call him out for being a ‘tard.

GO SOX AHHHHH!!!!!

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 7, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SSS motto: don't stop until it looks like this

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 7, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think that's pretty much the picture of exhaustion.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 7, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

a dead and smoldering horse laying on a pile of wood that was used to

light himself on fire? i agree.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

*light him

i am having a terrible day reading and writing so far.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

at least i have an excuse

what’s that kid’s problem?

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just woke up!

duh.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too good, that was just too good

keep them coming, you’re on fire Colintj!

When Pablo’s name shows up in the lineup, I die a little inside. - OM

by rhythm on Jul 7, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

then slap a little bbq sauce on that shit and serve it up!

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

trying to bait juan?

apples, oranges, sausages, wraps…

btw, wtf are juan’s beloved bananas?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 7, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that wtf is a where the fuck and not a what the fuck.

wtf?

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

FTW

How do you fuck a nut?!

by omnipotent grab on Jul 8, 2008 3:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coffee is for closers.

by vince_ on Jul 8, 2008 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like pansages.

Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Jul 7, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the most interesting man in the world is with you on that.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just because you are infatuated with playing with yourself does not make you the most interesting man in the world. how many times do i have to tell you that?

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

which is to say i also like pansages.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chocolate chip pansages.

CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.

by winningugly on Jul 7, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN has the Sox at #2

and THT have ‘em at #3, but whatever. Pitching and health will dictate the Sox hopes in the second half.

"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 7, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, and Phil Rogers is dumb.

"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 7, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and the cubs record, of course.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BUT WE SUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

(I was unable to find a tall building in Orlando.)

IF THE ROYALS BEAT US WE HAVE NO SSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOTTTTTTT.

CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.

by winningugly on Jul 7, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we have no SHHot.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 7, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lame

that was supposed to be SSHot. fumble.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 7, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i...i don't see the difference?

SSHot…SSHot…?

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SHHot vs. SSHot.

The latter has SSH capitalized GEDDIT!

gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them

by defensive indifference on Jul 7, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't they both have "SSH" capitalized?

wtf?

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what the fuck is that you have some sort of learning disability. sorry.

i guess it’s a prereq for writing on this site, though.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 7, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too far larry.

How do you fuck a nut?!

by omnipotent grab on Jul 7, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm going to screen shot this and post it

i am not insane, i swear.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No.

we have no SHHot.
If there’s a baseball equivalent to “never fight a land war in Asia,” Vizzini might tell us “never buy the decline years of a player.”

by larry on Jul 7, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lame
that was supposed to be SSHot. fumble.

gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them

by defensive indifference on Jul 7, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

damnit i just figured it out.

stupid learning disability.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You = Fail

How do you fuck a nut?!

by omnipotent grab on Jul 7, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

once again.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i love that one.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

since when are elephants smaller than the fucking moon

how long before john and jordan danks sit atop the brothers home run list?

by furby2056 on Jul 8, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 1:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 1:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this last one hits close to home (school, actually) for me.

damn, colin. i really wish i could have been a part of your failure as it was happening. until next time!

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

google images treated you well i see

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 8, 2008 5:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hahahhaa.

You = Insane

Proof.

gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them

by defensive indifference on Jul 7, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so this is what the glass ceiling feels like.

the insane aren’t exactly earmarked for success

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sure they are

how long before john and jordan danks sit atop the brothers home run list?

by furby2056 on Jul 7, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought so

Eveyone gets at least one mulligan.

CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.

by winningugly on Jul 7, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

should any team?

i mean, outside of NL teams, of course.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 7, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's true, but it's still a ways out from a nail-in-coffin situation

any three game season accounts for less than 2 percent of the total games played. baseball is predominantly macro.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

baseball is totally luck. we all know that.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 7, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

damn ssh has infected all y’all

"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 7, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahah

ssh has infected all ya’ll. but my comment wasn’t intended to be cynical at all. i’m liking the sox chances…

"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "

by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 7, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Give him some credit

He’s making it sound like his rankings will help determine the playoff race…now that’s some self promotion!

by jeeves on Jul 7, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This just in:

Joe Crede would be willing to participate in the Homerun Derby if asked. Uh….okay.

Source: the radio

gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them

by defensive indifference on Jul 7, 2008 3:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I know.

I’m having trouble wrapping my head around why you guys care. All of the biggest sports media outlets live off pointless statements like this.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 7, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bah!

I don’t even think this horse has fallen to its knees yet!

gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them

by defensive indifference on Jul 7, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crede could set a record for pop-ups in the Homerun Derby...

Just imagine how it would fuck up his swing for the rest of the season.

by SSH2005 on Jul 7, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How would it change anything?

he’s already been trying to hit a home run with every swing he’s taken this year, right?

by Trooper on Jul 8, 2008 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

steve dahl
On the drive to work, listening to Steve Dahl, I had to LOL. The Stever was talking about the Blackhawks’ plan to play Detroit on New Year’s Day in Wrigley Field, Dahl said, “Why New Year’s Day? Because that’s the only time of year you can go there and it doesn’t smell like urine.”
http://blogs.southtownstar.com/whitesox/2008/07/great-line-today-by-steve-dahl.html

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 7, 2008 3:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Shut up brah go to the Cell and get shot brah

I’m actually pumped for that game. I may not know anything about the Blackhawks, but if the game is akin to me playing hockey with rollerblades on the street it will be the balls.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 7, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just don't let your hog touch the pig trough

or it will freeze stuck to it.

Then you’ll have to stand there until the April thaw.

"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)

by tailgater on Jul 7, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I miss the 1970's Steve Dahl

Better than Stern. Because he’s got the beat of the Midwest.

CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.

by winningugly on Jul 7, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how about Mike Veeck?

At twilight over the ground of old Comiskey, if you squint, you can still see Dahl and Veeck running for their lives through the haze of Disco Demolition Night.

by tommyjoepeters on Jul 8, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Him, too. Chip off the old block.

CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.

by winningugly on Jul 8, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where be the dude

that gives us a daily recap.

I tried to follow all of this and I must say that you all did some major drugs back in the day or possible still are doing major drugs everyday.

After reading today’s blog I feel like someone raped my brain. I lost consciousness for a moment and I think had a couple lucid dreams about underwear gnomes and then came to.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 7, 2008 4:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

if you like this

then go check out the nba summer league stream…got some all-star commentating going on over there

how long before john and jordan danks sit atop the brothers home run list?

by furby2056 on Jul 7, 2008 4:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They are amazing

The summer league really is a hidden gem.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 7, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you send em an email yet?

how long before john and jordan danks sit atop the brothers home run list?

by furby2056 on Jul 7, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

i’m gonna tell them there commentary is going on a treadmill to nowhere

how long before john and jordan danks sit atop the brothers home run list?

by furby2056 on Jul 7, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

billy beane looking for dan haren like return for rich harden
... Jayson Stark commented on the Harden situation on Thursday:

The A’s will consider any offers that allow them to add and subtract at the same time. But any Harden deal would have to at least approach last winter’s Dan Haren extravaganza.

A reminder: Baseball America ranked Carlos Gonzalez as the game’s #22 prospect, and Brett Anderson was #36. The Cubs don’t have two players like that. Then add Greg Smith and Dana Eveland, who have combined for a 3.52 ERA in 207 innings this year. Oh, and toss in Chris Carter and Aaron Cunningham for good measure. That was a haul, even for an ace like Haren.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/07/cubs-pursuing-h.html

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 7, 2008 4:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Beware of Erik Bedard
... Proceed with caution with Bedard. Due to a decent 2006 season and an elite ‘07 season, his value is still extremely high despite not showing anything too impressive in ‘04, ‘05, or this season. Last season is aberrant, especially if you take a look at his K/9 rates. Going into ‘07, Bedard had never put up a K/9 above 8, yet in ‘07, he skyrocketed it to 10.93. That’s nearly a 33% increase!

This season, his numbers are more in line with his career averages, even though he’s pitched more than half of his starts in the most spacious ballpark in baseball, Safeco Field. In fact, there is a huge disparity in his home/road splits: Bedard has a 2.35 ERA at home in Seattle, and a 5.73 ERA on the road.

Bedard is having a mediocre season despite a BABIP at its lowest point in his six-year career. There’s nothing abnormal with his peripherals other than his sudden conversion to fly ball proneness. In ‘07, 47.9% of batted balls off of Bedard were of the ground ball variety and 34.8% were fly balls; this season, only 40.3% are ground balls and 42.9% are fly balls. I think it’s safe to assume that Bedard altered his pitching style to suit the large area in his home ballpark, and this is why his BABIP is so low—the expected BABIP on ground balls is a bit higher than on fly balls.
...
The most alarming aspect of Bedard’s season thus far is not the sudden change in batted ball tendencies, or the non-11 K-rate; it’s his inability to pitch past the fifth inning. He’s only pitched more than 5 innings seven times in his 15 starts in ‘08. He averages nearly 17 pitches per inning and, as a result, he’s usually close to 100 by the time the end of the fifth inning rolls around. Bedard taxes the bullpen. The Mariners have three pitchers in the top-15 among American League relief pitchers in innings pitched: Sean Green (5th, 48 IP), Ryan Rowland-Smith (12th, 40.2 IP), and Mark Lowe (14th, 40.1 IP). ...

http://blog.baseballdigestdaily.com/blog/_archives/2008/7/7/3780475.html

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 7, 2008 4:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pester Ozzie Guillen Enough On E-mail And He Will Respond Accordingly
White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen’s verbal attacks on reporters, general managers, players, fans, and blow-up dolls are somewhat disturbing, if not highly entertaining for those of us who don’t have to deal with them directly. But did you know you too can be eviscerated by Ozzie if you type with the appropriate amount of bile?

Guillen has made his e-mail public, so White Sox fans far and wide can tell him how spectacular a job he’s doing, or just anonymously insult him without imminent threat of physical retaliation. Chicago Tribune writer Rick Morrissey decided to test the account to see if Guillen really did check it. The writer fired away numerous semi-anonymous, timid, annoying messages to Guillen to see if he’d bite. None of them did — until Morrissey sent this one that “ripped” Guillen for this car dealership ad: ...

http://deadspin.com/5022580/pester-ozzie-guillen-enough-on-e+mail-and-he-will-respond-accordingly

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 7, 2008 5:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So THIS is what journalistic integrity is all about
You have to be stupid. Get a life, loser. I hope you have no kids. They have to be like you.

Yesss Ozzie FTW.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 7, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And folks, if you want to see ledge jumping to the max

PLEASE read the threads at Blog-a-Bull. People are declaring the season over during a summer league game!!!

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 7, 2008 5:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

can't forget everyone falling in love with beasley

over rose because of the first game

how long before john and jordan danks sit atop the brothers home run list?

by furby2056 on Jul 7, 2008 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

when i saw what the summer league game thread numbers looked like, i knew i wouldn't go anywhere near it.

that site is heading down a rough road. to be honest, i think matt needs to let one or more people aboard. that site does too much traffic for one guy to keep tabs on. he needs to start squeezing out some of the clowns.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you need to create a culture of hostility toward newcomers

Cheat has that in spades here.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 8, 2008 5:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not newcomers that speak reasonably intelligently

or I would’ve been kicked off 2 years ago.

CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.

by winningugly on Jul 8, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I am new...and unintelligent

So….I dunno. Are you guys talking about me behind my back and only PRETENDING to like my comments?

Christ, I need to write a journal entry in my MySpace to cool down.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 8, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

3000+ posts ain't fresh any more, Oz - I think you have been accepted

(like the retarded brother has been accepted – NOT!).

;) And don’t call me Christ.

CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.

by winningugly on Jul 8, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jesus is perpetually 35

You are slowly wilting away.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 8, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

33

CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.

by winningugly on Jul 8, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matt isn't exactly the sunniest blogger out there

And frankly, none of the long-time posters on that site can write that well, or summarize without being a total condescending cockgoblin. Just wait till the Bulls go 0-6 on their circus road trip, that will eliminate all the dipshits, sending them back to SportsNation.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 8, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

imagine if they lose today and rose scores 10 points again

how long before john and jordan danks sit atop the brothers home run list?

by furby2056 on Jul 8, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So wait...

Having a PG that averages ten a game is a bad thing? Damn then why have we been relying on Kirk Hinrich for so long?

I believe in Harvey, Illinois

by Hazymania on Jul 8, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why don't they transfer Crede?

he makes lots of defence errors and likes to hit the ball up in the air to the fielders. But the most important thing is that his back will explode at some point during the next month. They should at least try and get something for him before he gets on the injured list.

and I hate that bubble gum thing he does, disgusting.

regards

Sox fan from England, marching on together

by hoodlight on Jul 7, 2008 5:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

there's nothing to get for him

and Josh Fields has been oft-injured so far this year, making Joe’s replacement less than feasible. So you sit it out, hope his errors are an aberration (historically he’s an outstanding defender) and hope his bat comes around. We’d rather have the compensation pick than whatever pile of rubbish we’d get for him via trade, also. He’ll possibly/probably be a Type B free agent, which nets us a Supplementary First Round pick.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok, sorry

I’m still learning, I thought like free agency was, that’s it you’re off, but you get draft picks. i didn’t know that, I guess that changes things.

thank you

Sox fan from England, marching on together

by hoodlight on Jul 7, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

btw for reference on what the market would be like

check out what we got for Tad Iguchi and Rob Mackowiak last year.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 7, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Crede's an All-Star!!!

He was banned for today partly because he uses bad words (in a mean way; unlike everyone else who only use them when absolutely necessary in order to fight the terrorists)

by whitesoxmatt on Jul 7, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not really an all star.

But come on now.. he’s better then the Guch and Mackowiak.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 7, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clearly (with sarcasm)

he meant that Crede would fetch what Gooch and Mack got combined

by jeeves on Jul 7, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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