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It's official: Konerko is back on the roster, Pablo Ozuna designated for assignment. Can't wait for the explanation on this one.

Press Release: White Sox reinstate Paul Konerko from disabled list; Designate Pablo Ozuna for assignment

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FIRST TO STOMP ON OZUNA'S GRAVE!

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 8, 2008 1:07 PM CDT   0 recs

It would shock me if you didn't have his obit prepped already:

“My Favorite Pablo Moment” ought to be forthcoming, no?

CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.

by winningugly on Jul 8, 2008 1:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Walking off the field on a clearly broken leg

It almost made me sad to know that he would be gone for the rest of the year… almost

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jul 8, 2008 1:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Like Bo Jackson's Sox days

Limping around the bases after smacking a dinger, with Rock Raines making fun of him. Good times.

Think he’ll catch on anywhere?

CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.

by winningugly on Jul 8, 2008 1:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

charlotte.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 8, 2008 1:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL

With Wachovia and B of A sucking mud, the Dominican is more desirable.

CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.

by winningugly on Jul 8, 2008 1:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

well

it wasn’t really meant to be funny. i said previously that i think ozuna would be amenable to accepting an assignment to charlotte, should the sox ask him to. if they don’t and he does become a free agent, i’m not sure i’d expect him to immediately be picked up and put on a major league roster so then pick another AAA destination.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 8, 2008 1:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's how good you are - funny when not attempting humor

It’s a shame he probaly won’t be sought out at the ML level, just because seeign someone become Crash Davis is always tough. But baseball’s a preferable job than many others.

CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.

by winningugly on Jul 8, 2008 1:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I have no animus towards Pablo either

I’m happy he got his million dollar payday. It makes it easier to see the Sox make this move, which I think is the right one.

by hitlesswonder on Jul 8, 2008 1:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Getz, Richar and Fields

are going to make PT tough, but I bet the Sox find room for him. We seem to treat our ex-players very well, which I like. Being an ex-pro athlete is probably tough to come to terms with.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 8, 2008 3:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

wait 'till you're an ex-pro student.

When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...

by Chiburb on Jul 8, 2008 3:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Fo' reals

Tough transition to make. Getting up everyday before noon, going to meetings, interacting with a bunch of people you don’t really like, being accountable. It all sucks.

When Pablo’s name shows up in the lineup, I die a little inside. - OM

by rhythm on Jul 8, 2008 3:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow, a man happy with his work

Especially the interacting with a bunch of people you don’t really like part. What a picnic you have made with your life!

CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.

by winningugly on Jul 8, 2008 3:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I wasn't talking about me

I was trying to demonstrate to colintj how excellent having a job as a pro student really is

I actually like my job, surprisingly enough

When Pablo’s name shows up in the lineup, I die a little inside. - OM

by rhythm on Jul 8, 2008 4:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

how do you get one of those things anyway?

one you like i mean

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 8, 2008 4:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's certainly a start

but also be sure to over educate yourself, thus ensuring that you will be poor for a significant amount of time, then you end up being more appreciative of whatever you get. Graduate school is good for this, because you end up getting paid while going to school, but you may also consider going for a second or third bachelors, or joining the peace corps.

I’m not suggesting med school, business, or law school because they are too short and you aren’t stupid enough for med or business school, seeing as you can actually spell and figure out how to post things on SSS, nor a large enough a-hole for law school.

Have I offended everyone yet?

When Pablo’s name shows up in the lineup, I die a little inside. - OM

by rhythm on Jul 8, 2008 4:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you left out the blacks.

how’s that for icing on the cake?

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 9:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you know if you guys started passing the hat around

i wouldn’t ever have to get one.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 8, 2008 4:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

street-wise!!

i see you ending up in sales.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 9:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i did consider creating a pablo ozuna: a remembrance fanpost

but i couldn’t really think of anything that was really that memorable that i wanted to write about extensively. he wasn’t truly and spectacularly awful like masset was. he was just generally replacement level. which is somewhat boring.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 8, 2008 1:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I have no idea what we are going to talk about on this site now that our

2nd favorite whipping boy is gone.

CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.

by winningugly on Jul 8, 2008 1:09 PM CDT   0 recs

well

if you look at their current numbers, one might get that impression. it’s not like uribe has been tearing things up this season. i think we all hope that uribe will pick it up offensively but, from the way ozzie has used the two this year, i’m not sure you can make a clear argument either way. what one would base that argument on, and what we all pretty much argue, is that uribe should be able to play third and his defense overall is better than ozuna’s and that should outweigh any difference in offensive value going forward (or that uribe can’t possibly be this bad the whole season). but it’s not like juan was making this a blatantly obvious decision with his play.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 8, 2008 1:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

the "sox" are not quite a monolithic organization.

i would imagine that, despite what we view as an obvious choice, this wasn’t necessarily a unanimous, slamdunk decision made weeks ago by all the people with input on the decision.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 8, 2008 1:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

and maybe the Sox were showcasing Ozuna? who the hell knows or cares

at this point.

When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...

by Chiburb on Jul 8, 2008 1:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I doubt it...

Ozuna is a 34 year old player with not much talent or skills. He is the type of player who makes it through waivers all the time.

by SSH2005 on Jul 8, 2008 1:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Could just be the most simple answer.

Uribe had not had enough practice over at third yet, and they thought on that day Ozuna was more prepared. May have liked the pitching match up’s those days for Ozuna.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 8, 2008 1:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Has Cowley been unconfused about anything?

In May it was “Uribe almost gone”. In July it was “Uribe trade talks heat up”. He didn’t write ONE EFFIN word of speculation about Ozuna being odd man out until last night’s Twitter, after it was obviously leaked to him.
For this great “access” we pay for the S-T?

Lastly, there were numerous posters at SSS who made the case to DFA. Props to them.

When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...

by Chiburb on Jul 8, 2008 1:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

hold on there, cowboy

throwing around “we” pretty casually there.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 8, 2008 1:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

hee.

When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...

by Chiburb on Jul 8, 2008 1:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

who the fuck pays for the sun-times? or the trib for that matter?

print media is dead my friend. i can understand the wsj, but even that is unnecessary these days.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 1:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

maybe I should've said "the S-T pays him for this"?

When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...

by Chiburb on Jul 8, 2008 1:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

that sounds good. and helps explain why these companies are fading away.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 1:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

that was my reasoning for posting it last night

All of Cowley’s Uribe musings have been wishful thinking. I figured since the other option would have to be a Uribe trade, the Ozuna news had to be legit

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jul 8, 2008 1:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Who pays for the S-T now?

It’s all available online, isn’t it? Anyway, Cowley should start doing his job. It isn’t his job to float trade rumors nor is it to give his unqualified opinion on who should be staying and who should be going. Beat writer ≠ columnist.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 8, 2008 3:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

and here's why cowley was confused

“Ozuna hit .391 against lefties this year and .353 in June. Uribe? Well, he didn’t shoot anybody. Kind of a head-scratcher”

we can add some “except…” to all of that. but there you go.

and to answer WU’s question, it’s juan who will be the whipping boy now if he doesn’t improve.

uribe, as far as i’m concerned, needs to either start throwing some serious leather or hit the ball (or, more appropriately, some combination thereof) because, while he’s certainly better than ozuna (or should be), that’s faint praise. with ozuna gone, uribe is going to look a heck of a lot more horseshit. he needs to produce because, frankly, it’s not like we have three shitty defenders who require late inning replacement by a gloveman. they’re all above average. sure, uribe is now (likely) the primary backup and will see starts. but that means he needs to start hitting the ball, too, because his overall production at this point is well below replacement level. and there’s a guy in charlotte – and certainly guys available for a pittiance at the trade deadline – who can produce better than uribe has so far.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 8, 2008 1:38 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i agree. ozzie needs to get in his ear about putting the bat on the ball. he has looked atrocious at the plate.

though i haven’t seen anything to complain about or praise regarding his defense.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 1:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

exactly

his offense has been putrid and his defense has been average. usually you want your bench players to provide as least one above average skill or be relatively average over a few areas. i’m not sure juan is doing that right now, though his versatility could be argued. however, with ramirez on the team and cabrera being the proverbial iron man at SS, i’m not sure his ability to play three positions (well, we think he can play third, i guess) goes that far on this team.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 8, 2008 1:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think he can give above average defense up the middle still

And considering that catchers and SS are pretty much the same offensively these days according to Nate Silver, what’s the problem with having a guy who can be at least average at every infield position? Personally, I’d rather have the depth. Who else are we sticking on the bench anyway at this point? Richar or Getz?

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 8, 2008 3:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

sure, that's the general idea

however, i’m not sure this team particularly needs a guy on the bench who can play SS. i’d have to think about it some more, because there’s the issue regarding how if, god forbid, cabrera or ramirez went down this organization doesn’t have anyone else who can play SS at the major league level; however, setting that concern aside for a moment, the sox are a team that could have someone on the bench who can play “only” 2b/3b/maybe outfield adequately but carried a bit more of a stick than uribe has shown. you know, through more than half the season, cabrera has only not played 35 innings at SS. 2 times he hasn’t started. back up SS, as i’ve stated before, since the acquisition of cabrera, isn’t a huge concern.

but, whatever, if they want to go the safer route and keep a backup SS, i’m fine with that because the difference is probably marginal, at best, and there is some risk.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 8, 2008 3:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

"Uribe? Well, he didn’t shoot anybody."

Journamalism.

When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...

by Chiburb on Jul 8, 2008 1:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

They DFA'd Anderson?

Or Crede?

When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...

by Chiburb on Jul 8, 2008 1:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

will hawk make tonight's game now?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jul 8, 2008 1:18 PM CDT   0 recs

I'll tell you what Feisty

Ozuna is a ball player. He just comes to the park everyday and does his job. He will be missed.

I believe in Harvey, Illinois

by Hazymania on Jul 8, 2008 1:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i was just informed that rowand is pictured on chisox.com for the 32nd man voting

and dye is pictured on the giants website. pretty good cross promotion, eh? obviously the giants realize that if rowand is gonna get in he could really stand to gain the chicago bump.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 1:30 PM CDT   0 recs

Yep, I saw that...

Funny stuff. Sounds like a little agreement between both teams.

by SSH2005 on Jul 8, 2008 1:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sounds a little uneven

I suppose JD was a former A, but that’s not quite the same. But whatever, it isn’t a big deal.

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 8, 2008 3:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sunday Sweep Lineups:

2005:
Timo, Widger, Ozuna

2008:
Uribe, Hall, Anderson/Wise

When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...

by Chiburb on Jul 8, 2008 1:31 PM CDT   0 recs

Based on that, I'd now agree

2008 runs rings around 2005.

CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.

by winningugly on Jul 8, 2008 1:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

more from cowley

“Talk from here in KC was Pablo Ozuna was not only shocked but very upset. Yes, the decision was made and given in lonely KC.”

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 8, 2008 1:31 PM CDT   0 recs

shocked, huh? well, i feel even less sorry for him now. wasn't he around to see himself butchering 3rd base and never seeing 2 pitches?

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 1:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

easy, Tiger. Cowley is refering to himself, not Ozuna.

When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...

by Chiburb on Jul 8, 2008 1:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

are you sure? sounds like he's talking about ozuna to me.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 1:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

joke

When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...

by Chiburb on Jul 8, 2008 1:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

no habla ingles.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 1:49 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Understand the upset, but shocked?

Like the kid who fails every exam, then is surprised he’s put on academic probation at the end of the semester.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 8, 2008 1:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Equated to Willie Randolph's firing in LA at 3 AM, I'm sure

CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.

by winningugly on Jul 8, 2008 1:49 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Idiots

I cannot believe all the people who like this move. Are you guys crazy? Juan Uribe is absolute garbage. Why is he still on the Sox team? Stuff like this really pisses me off. Juan Uribe does not deserve a free pass any longer. Pablo Ozuna is a better player tahn Juan Uribe.

by Y2Jimmy0 on Jul 8, 2008 1:37 PM CDT   0 recs

i agree with nothing you wrote

other than juan uribe does not deserve a free pass any longer. you’re in the crosshairs, juan.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 8, 2008 1:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Juan definitely low man on the totem pole

“I’m just happy to be here” doesn’t cut it any more, kid.

CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.

by winningugly on Jul 8, 2008 1:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you know you're hanging by a thread when ba has played circles around you this season.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Jul 8, 2008 1:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Better player at what?

Dominoes? soccer? Pablo certainly doesn’t have more value to this team than Uribe. Having Pablo as our only backup infielder would cause the pitching staff to revolt.

by Off the bus running on Jul 8, 2008 1:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Let me try to explain it to you.

They both suck offensively. Uribe can play an average to above average SS. Ozuna cannot. In fact we do not have another player in our system that can play even passable MLB SS defense. It was really a no-brainer without some corresponding move to acquire a backup SS. So it was either trade Uribe while receiving a SS in return or DFA Ozuna. There really were no other choices outside of sending Wise or BA down.

by bhoov on Jul 8, 2008 1:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

it's nice to know that logic wasn't killed.

at least within the white sox organization. while a (very) marginal move, it certainly was the correct one.

If there's a baseball equivalent to "never fight a land war in Asia," Vizzini might tell us "never buy the decline years of a player."

by larry on Jul 8, 2008 1:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Indeed...

When you now have Wise and Anderson available to pinch-run, Ozuna was pretty much worthless.

by SSH2005 on Jul 8, 2008 2:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Especially since Wise and Anderson appear to have a clue at the plate

particularly Wise. The usual age 31 breakout!

are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM

by colintj on Jul 8, 2008 3:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

tahn... the new teh.

When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...

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