A Royal Comeback
by The Cheat on Jul 9, 2008 10:55 PM CDT
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There's no such thing as a routine victory for the White Sox anymore, or at least it seems that way. For the second straight night, the Sox pulled out a victory over the Royals in a game it looked like they had no business winning.
Javier Vazquez followed up Jose Contreras poor start with a stinker of his own, allowing 11 hits and 6 runs before being pulled with 2 outs in the 6th. He allowed the first 3 batters of the night to reach base safely, and had the Sox in a 1-0 hole before he retired a batter. That hole grew to 5-0 before the Sox got their first hit in the 4th inning.
I'm not sure what's wrong with Vazquez. I assume there is something mechanically wrong (or at least that's my hope), because he's recorded a quality start in just one of his last 7 starts.
Carlos Quentin had the Sox 2nd and 3rd hits of the night with two 2-runs homers to bring put them within a run after the 6th. From there it would turn into a battle of bullpens. And even though the Sox are a man down, that's still advantage Sox.
Things really got interesting in the 8th. With the Sox still trailing by a run, Jermaine Dye at the plate, and Quentin and Orland Cabrera occupying 1st and 2nd, respectively, Cabrera stole 3rd easily. One Star Sudoku easy. Dye, perhaps distracted by Cabrera's ridiculously large jump, swung at what should have been ball one, and glared down to third base. He struck out one pitch later and again stared down Cabrera at 3rd as he walked to the dugout.
Jim Thome picked up a single through the shift to drive in OC, tie the game, and pick up JD. When OC returned to the dugout, however, he didn't receive a warm welcome from everyone. I made sure to watch as OC entered the dugout because I could already sense something brewing, but I never saw JD, who might have been up the tunnel in the clubhouse at the time. At some point during the next at-bat, Comcast's cameras caught OC yelling from one end of the dugout, and being physically restrained by Dewayne Wise and Jose Contreras. A moment later Jermaine Dye walks into screen, exchanging words and pantomiming a swing or a slide, or something, anyway.
I don't really understand what JD was complaining about. Sure, he may have been distracted by Cabrera's steal. Sure, he was in an 0-2 hole. But the tying run was only 90 feet away, and he had a chance to drive that run in without a hit. In fact, the value of a runner on 3rd base shown through immediately following the confrontation, as Ramon Ramirez balked in the eventual game-winning run with Paul Konerko (0-4, 4K) at the plate.
The Jenks-less Sox bullpen rebounded from an off-night with a stellar 3.1 innings of 2-hit baseball. Adam Russell, who has pitched in a grand total of 3 high-leverage situations this season, picked up his third victory*, while Octavio Dotel got an opportunity to pick up his first save of the year. Dotel needed just 10 pitches to strike out the side, as the Sox escaped with their 7th straight victory over Kansas City.
They're not all pretty, but they all look the same once they end up in the 'W' column.
* Russell needs to pitch more. He's an automatic victory, or the opposite of complete game by a Sox starting pitcher.
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It won't matter at all in the long run, but Dye is in teh wrong here
I’m sure he was just frustrated as his slump continued, but STFU. Cabrera stealing third caused him to swing a pitch that went about 58 feet? GMAFB.
Oh well, families fight, winning cures all. No worries. I’m more worried about more shit from Javier and Kong. Both those guys could provide a huge boost down teh stretch if they get going. Or they could continue to be a huge anchor—score one for the latter tonight.
Q won this ballgame for the Sox. That’s about 5 times this year he’s single handedly won it for them. If he doesn’t hit those two bombs this is an ugly loss. Great props to everyoen who contributed though.
by madvillian on Jul 9, 2008 11:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
speculation on the spat
I think the issue may be Dye (and probably others) still view Cabrera as a stat-padding rental. I remember a few instances when Cabrera has tried to steal third when the situation didn’t call for it or another time he didn’t get in front of a sharply hit ball (for fear he’d be charged with an error). A couple of months ago, the Sox were down by 4 or 5, and he got caught stealing third.
It does seem very strange that Dye would object to Cabrera getting himself to 3rd with less than 2 outs, but if it was viewed by Dye as another incident in a chain of selfish moves, then it may make a little more sense.
Again, this is just speculation based on watching Cabrera’s play this year.
by rhombusface on Jul 9, 2008 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hated OCab the minute the trade was announced
But he has won me over. He’s been money this year defensively. He has some of the best hands I’ve seen—he rarely boots a ball and makes the in between hops look easy. His range and arm aren’t that great, but his hands and quick release make up for it.
Plus he’ll net a sandwich pick when he leaves in the offseason.
Cabrera might be a stat whore, but such is the essence of baseball. Stat whores help the team in Baseball, which some would say is the beauty of it.
by madvillian on Jul 9, 2008 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude, sandwich pick and a first rounder
or two sandwiches. it’s better than you think.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 9, 2008 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like sandwiches
Now I am hungry, thanks
Bloggin'
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by Six Pack on Jul 10, 2008 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
it may have been more with Dye getting frustrated in the moment and the fact that he’s getting cold again. I already saw on an interview where he said they were cool and the usual cliches about being brothers and good teams getting into spats every once in a while, blah, blah. I personally have no problem with it, in fact I kind of like it, especially when they’re winning. That won’t stop certain media members with running with it for a couple days.
I would see your point about padding stats if it wasn’t such a big moment in the game. He also gave Dye a shot to pad his stats if he could the bat on the ball. Cabrera is definitely growing on me too.
by El Duque's Raft on Jul 9, 2008 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's been far more timely of late.
And there’s no changing his crap approach (he’s in the “RHB swings at too many bad pitches and takes too many good”) , so I’m learning to live with it. Seems like he’s taking more walks lately anyway.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 9, 2008 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe, but he could have at least gotten pissed when he was actually right.
I’m sure Cabrera has a green light and I’m sure JD has had baserunners steal in front of him before. Besides, the game was in question and there’s a huge difference between a runner on second and a runner on third there. So…yeah…I’ll just repeat what madv said i guess.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 9, 2008 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm positive this goes back to a similar play a couple of weeks ago.
I don’t know if anyone else remembers the exact situation, but Cabrera stole third with Dye up and Dye looked distracted and struck out. But unlike in this case, the SB was totally pointless given the game situation, to the point where I remember thinking, “I wonder if Sox players think OCab is just trying to pad his stats for free agency after plays like that.”
by jwsox on Jul 9, 2008 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i remember that random ass SB and I didn't get it either
but these are pretty divergent situations.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 9, 2008 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i remember the exact situation. and what you describe wasn't it.
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
by larry on Jul 10, 2008 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll hold off on Paulie. He had good numbers
in Charlotte and looked decent at the plate last night. But Vazquez is a bit of a concern. Contreras is already coming back to earth, Floyd can’t be too far behind. We need Vazquez if we’re going to hold off what this occassional SSS poster believes will be a furious Detroit finish.
by chrome on Jul 9, 2008 11:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe a bit too pesimistic here
Why is Gavin right behind coming down to earth? I don’t know, all of these guys have overachieved and it is just finally nice to the offense pick up the slack. Pitching was helping the team most of the first half, not offense is helping pitching to finish off the half. The all-star break is coming, the pitchers will get some rest, let’s watch and see what happens…
by LT_sox_fan on Jul 9, 2008 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
gavin has given up the least hits on the staff. What suggests to you that he is coming back down to earth?
by Rockraines on Jul 10, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm gonna go with who has an unsustainably low babip for $1000, alex.
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
by larry on Jul 10, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His BABIP is way low
But I want to point out he does give up the fewest percentage of line drives on our staff. So his expected BABIP will be lower than the other starters, yet even his real BABIP is lower than that. His second half will be interesting
by 3E8 on Jul 10, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't think low LD rates are sustainable normally
he has SOME ability to control his BABIP because of his curve which has the lowest BABIP outside of the knuck, but he also has an extremely hittable fastball.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 10, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gavin's sustained it in a White Sox uni, so a decent sample
180 IP w/ LD% < 17
by 3E8 on Jul 10, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we got half a season of good jose
now he can relax and take it easy so he’s ready for the September push
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 10, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paulie's timing was just way off
as was his pitch recognition. Every swing he made contact on, he was way out in front, even fastballs. I guess there’s just no substituting for major league stuff.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 9, 2008 11:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I just skimmed the game thread over at Royals Review
It must be really tough being a Royals fan.
Coffee is for closers.
by vince_ on Jul 9, 2008 11:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
eesh
doesn’t get much worse than that.
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 10, 2008 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah it does
You could be slitting your wrists vertically as a Packers fan with the emotional rollercoaster Brett Favre is putting them through.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 10, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I felt like a twins fan today
Usually I watch the twins score, and they are down 4-0, 6-2, or something in the 6th and I am thinking, man, they are coming back and we won’t gain a game or even lose in the standings. And it comes true later on as they score bunch of runs in the 7th, 8th, etc…. the last two days that has been us! finally…
by LT_sox_fan on Jul 9, 2008 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lead back up to 3.5 games
Where are all the chicken littles now?
Coffee is for closers.
by vince_ on Jul 9, 2008 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'll rec that
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 10, 2008 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
SSH vanished that's for sure
I don’t get that dude at all. Why not enjoy the good parts if the bad parts are going to make you so miserable?
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 10, 2008 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's a baseball masochist
Coffee is for closers.
by vince_ on Jul 10, 2008 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
enjoying stuff isn't an option for him
i think he only likes repeating his comments about fifty times then putting down others thoughts
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
by furby2056 on Jul 10, 2008 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, I have a one month old...
I’m not living in mommy and daddy’s basement. I’ve got shit to do.
by SSH2005 on Jul 10, 2008 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah i live upstairs...
only 2 months more though haha
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
by furby2056 on Jul 10, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So the baby only cries when the Sox are doing well?
Uh huh. Because you magically have plenty of time when the Sox aren’t doing well.
Coffee is for closers.
by vince_ on Jul 10, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that's the way it works vince_... you got me.
By the way, that could be the worst avatar I have ever seen in my life.
by SSH2005 on Jul 10, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you sure your offsping hasn't gotten some of those cubs genes that seem to run in your wife's family?
remember, if you catch it early, you can often nip it in the bud.
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
by larry on Jul 10, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't let that happen...
If it did, I would disown him.
by SSH2005 on Jul 10, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DFA the little bastard!
Mrs. SSH: Where’s Junior?
SSH: I send him down to Great Falls, MT
Mrs. SSH: Why not Bristol, VA?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 10, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vinne, for a multitude of reason, I have to go with SSH on the avatar comment
You are better than that.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*vinnie*, *reasons*
I’d better quit.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Winingugli, for a multitude of reason, I have to go with you on the quitting comment. ;- )
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 10, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
POS
You are wasting my tax dollars. Get to work.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that you, john wayne? is this me?
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 10, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seconded!
:-P
His most recent E5, botching a sure double play, was classic, as was his recent Dybzynski moment – pinch-running, then quickly getting picked off.
Pablo taketh away, and he giveth, usually with the same hand. Pablo, we barely knew ye. - WU
by rhythm on Jul 10, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I H-8 U
POS.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My avatar is not to please the likes of you or SSH
Y’all can kiss my ass.
Coffee is for closers.
by vince_ on Jul 10, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Typical Obama supporter
No sense of humor.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we nominated a black guy who's middle name is Hussein and we
have no sense of humor?
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jul 10, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Typical Obama hater
White and a pirate hooker.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 10, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am white (mostly)
but what is a pirate hooker?
Racist.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
pie-rate hooker.
one who hooks for pies.
by Trooper on Jul 10, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's racist to call me racist, you bigot
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 10, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awww - he cute
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
YEA!!!
GET A FUCKING JOB TOO WHILE YOUR AT IT!!
He was banned for today partly because he uses bad words (in a mean way; unlike everyone else who only use them when absolutely necessary in order to fight the terrorists)
by whitesoxmatt on Jul 10, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fuck that, i'm coasting
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 10, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
balks made me giggle
I think it took me years of baseball watching to be able to spot them. Still, Royals lose because their pitcher leaned forward and back.
Baseball is a wonderful and, at times, silly game.
by shaftr on Jul 10, 2008 12:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The balk rules
Give me a headache.
Bloggin'
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by Six Pack on Jul 10, 2008 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tried explaining them to my wife last night
She now “gets it” about as much as I do.
by sti3 on Jul 10, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
from now on, I'm calling Dotel
Trucknutz
Property of: PAUL KONERKO Track and Field Academy & Steakhouse
by thecip on Jul 10, 2008 12:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
care to clarify that?
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 10, 2008 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It suits him.
Trucknutz and Bikerballz [!!!] are made of solid plastic (the toughest in the industry). GUARANTEED not to fade, chip, crack or break – or FREE replacement (our world famous “takes a licking” guarantee) The original tried and true nutz.
Sounds like closer mentality.
Property of: PAUL KONERKO Track and Field Academy & Steakhouse
by thecip on Jul 10, 2008 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you convinced me
Trucknutz it is
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 10, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
VG cip.
How do you fuck a nut?!
by omnipotent grab on Jul 10, 2008 1:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the recap, Cheat.
I missed the game, and this is far more helpful than looking at the boxscore. Great job, as usual.
by reardenmettle on Jul 10, 2008 1:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
missed the game? shit, i name dropped your ass in the BUO
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 10, 2008 2:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
get a room.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jul 10, 2008 4:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Cowley thinks he knows OC enough to call him a "bad guy"
Cabrera Island
KANSAS CITY, Mo. – Trailing 6-5 after starting pitcher Javier Vazquez dug the offense a five-run hole by the third and made them climb out of it, Orlando Cabrera walked to lead off the eighth inning. Nick Swisher flied out to center, leading to Cabrera nabbing second base.
Carlos Quentin, who had homered twice on the night to give him 21 on the season, then walked to bring up Jermaine Dye. During Dye’s at-bat, Cabrera nabbed third base. On the surface a heads-up play, but at the same time, a pet-peeve for some hitters who find it a distraction. Dye then struck out, seemingly putting the rally in jeopardy.
Jim Thome had other ideas, however, as the veteran hit a grounder into the hole between first and second base, allowing Cabrera to tie the game up, and Quentin to get to third.
Then it was fun time, like only the South Siders, and their now 3 ½-game lead in the Central Division, could provide.
As Cabrera was passing around the high-fives in the dugout, Dye apparently must have said something to his shortstop. What that was, Dye wasn’t saying.
Cabrera, never one to bite his tongue, started shouting in Dye’s direction and had to be restrained by Jose Contreras.
Afterward, it was explaining time.
"There was a little thing going on, but not a big deal,’’ Guillen said. "I talked to everyone after the game, told them that a good ballclub puts it behind them, a bad ballclub keeps fighting.
"But I like that. I don’t want them to fist fight, but I like that. I don’t want to see talking behind peoples’ back. I hate when players don’t like something with a coach or teammate and create a big whisper thing in the clubhouse.
"It was a misunderstanding. They talked it out and hugged, and it’s over.’’
While Cabrera did his usual disappearing act right after the game, Dye did discuss it.
"It was a misunderstanding,’’ the outfielder said. "When you’re together for a long time things happen. Good teams have disputes and move on.’’
My take? Who cares. Cabrera is a bad guy, selfish and cares about one person, but both he and the Sox need each other for a few months longer and then can spit on one another through the media. Next!
by stanchar on Jul 10, 2008 5:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good Guy / Bad Guy Musing
This little JD/OC incident has me thinking about the way we as spectators form opinions about players and whether they are “good guys” or “bad guys.” It seems that most of us who pay close attention to a team come to have opinions about the players as more than just athletes but as people as well. I know I do. My relationship with the Sox includes identifying with the players to some degree or other. I don’t mean I think they are my friends or “they’re just like me!” I’m not that pathetic (I hope). I mean that, for me, the guys who wear our colors are not just BattleBots but are individuals whose personalities and quirks give meaning and texture to the weird, vicarious experience of being a fan.
For example, I loved watching Ozzie play because he was clearly having fun, was so into the game and could be such a pain in the ass. You could tell a lot about who he was just by watching him on the field. We all love watching Nick Swisher play because he’s having a blast and always seems to be a positive support for his teammates. Who wouldn’t want to hang around with Swish? To reach into the past, didn’t Jamie Navarro look like a whiny punk when things went wrong (which they always did)? Didn’t you hate the way Dave Steib carried himself on the mound and glared at his teammates? No doubt I’m engaging in some projection here, but, really, is it at all controversial that the way we comport ourselves at work says a lot about who we are? If someone were to watch you do your job every day, how you applied yourself, how you interacted with your co-workers, etc, wouldn’t they learn a lot about you?
The point of all this is that I think we inevitably draw personal conclusions about the players we watch closely and that that is not an unreasonable thing. Therefore, I’m willing to accept some editorializing from Cowley and the media on stuff like this. Now, of course, we have to discount severely for the source. I’m not saying for an instant that, because Cowley says OC is a bad guy that I agree with him or dislike Cabrera. Cowley has an agenda and biases, just as we all do (except, of course, for Larry who is purely a servant of truth). In particular, he seems to grind his ax for those who don’t give him quotes after the game and shame on him for that. I’m not signing up for media hack-jobs like the kinds that got laid on Barry Bonds, Paul DePodesta or countless others. Furthermore, I hope we all recognize that reducing people to labels like “good” or “bad” is laughably simplistic. But I am willing to include information from capable reporters in the lumpy gruel that somehow forms my opinions about the players.
Having meandered my way through all that, I think the speculation on this thread has been pretty credible. Yes, OC’s stolen base was very good baseball. Yes, JD was out-of-line but there is history here that tells us something. Dye has always been a well-respected member of the team. Recall that he came here as a free agent on a handshake deal even though he received a bigger subsequent offer. His teammates obviously like him and are doing more than merely pro forma lobbying for his All-Star cause. Add in that way he has played for us and carried himself and he’s a player I like and respect. Does that mean he was justified in barking at Cabrera? No, but if a player who I respect has an issue with someone, I’ll give that weight and factor it into how I watch them going forward (just as Cheat did when he noticed JD glaring down at OC from the box). I don’t think any of this will make any difference to the Sox’ success or failure this season and, to the extent it makes it more likely that OC takes his services elsewhere next year and nets us some draft picks, I guess its a good thing. But I do think its worth noticing and talking about.
by Landfill on Jul 10, 2008 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good comments
Its clear that OrCa is abrasive, and the reporters dont like it. But I have no doubt that he gets along fine with his teammates. One shouting match in the dugout doesn’t signal a problem. There’ll be no grudge. No Hallmark cards required.
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on Jul 10, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its clear
That Cowley is a d-bag. He’s awful.
by Rockraines on Jul 10, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, Cowley is a biased douchebag...
Why does he hate Cabrera so bad? Did he want to see Ozuna starting at SS or something?
by SSH2005 on Jul 10, 2008 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah i think cowley's ready for the gordan beckham era to begin
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
by furby2056 on Jul 10, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's already been discussed
Cabrera isn’t a bright ray of sunshine, is out for his stats, and isn’t great with the Chicago media. If you’ve followed sports in this city, you know the reporters can hold some sweet grudges.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 10, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
shouldn't you be listening to dante and galante doin the bulls game
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
by furby2056 on Jul 10, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a feisty guy - remember his blood feud with Renteria?
So he’s not Mr. Warmth. He can play.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Cabrera, ............ had to be restrained by Jose Contreras."
Thank God for Jose or the Cabrera family would be scheduling memorial services today.
Pitching, defense, health.
by ballyb on Jul 10, 2008 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"My take? Who cares. Cabrera is a bad guy, selfish and cares about one person..."
Not even Jim can defend this crap.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jul 10, 2008 7:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not going to
But it does bolster my opinion that it’s being requested from a higher-up.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jul 10, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not necessarily requested...
See my response in the FJC thread – I think its more likely that Cowley sees Mariotti getting rewarded for saying outlandish shit and can also see Mariotti getting a huge payday. 1+1 = bad guy, selfish, etc.
Coffee is for closers.
by vince_ on Jul 10, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not requested but encouraged then?
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 10, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the two words are synonymous when $$ enter the picture
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 10, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I just doubt it is explicit.
Coffee is for closers.
by vince_ on Jul 10, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I didn't mean specific orders
Just more personality, more opinion, give readers something the other papers won’t. He obviously feels convinced that this is true, so, hey.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jul 10, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude, subjective opinion is the new wave!
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 10, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One thing I can't stand
Is when reporters complain about players not talking to the media. “His usual disapearing act”. Uh, you mean he went home to his family after a long day at the office? There is no obligation to talk to the media, get over yourselves.
by madvillian on Jul 10, 2008 7:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ozzie's interview
‘I (am) a people (person)’
Bloggin'
http://bierjournal.blogspot.com/
by Six Pack on Jul 10, 2008 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No obligation
But it is considered part of their job. And it does say something about them (see Bedard, Eric).
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jul 10, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
guys. come on. are we really this dumb?
this was clearly just an elaborate ruse to garner JD media attention in order to bolster his all-star prospects. the media – and the rest of you – have taken the bait. i laugh at your naivety.
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
by larry on Jul 10, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wise screwed it all up
the script from Boyer called for OrCa to deck Dye, so that the website could say “Punch JD.” But Wise missed the dress rehearsal and stopped it from happening.
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on Jul 10, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sigh. seriously. at least know who the actors were.
wise wasn’t involved. it was contreras.
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
by larry on Jul 10, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm - I thought it was Wise
depending on the story you have 2 versions of who stepped in… AND IT MATTERS – YEA IT DOES!
Don’t make me kick your #@ for the way you handled your comment... you're distracting me while I'm trying to get something DONE you #$#
by Brush Back on Jul 10, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
all black guys look the same to these writers, apparently
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
by larry on Jul 10, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
reviewing the zapruder film,
I think it was contreras. But I’m not ruling out the possibility of another intervener on the grassy knoll.
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!
by Nordhagen on Jul 10, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why has no one blamed the obvious culprit - Juan Uribe?
I smell conspiracy.
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by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I blame Juan Uribe
and the Cuban Mafia.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
danks analysis from sister site BTBS
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2008/7/10/568620/the-emergence-of-john-dank
All in all Danks has improved just about every facet of his game. During the 2007 season he may have relied far too heavily on his fastball, but the addition of a cutter this season is making hitters guess a little more. Add that to improved control, a little more velocity to his fastball and enhanced groundball tendencies and an unpredictable turnaround is well…quite predictable.
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
by larry on Jul 10, 2008 8:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and where is that other guy, something mccarthy?
throwing 25 pitch simulated games in arizona.
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/07/some-notes-on-pitching.html
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
by larry on Jul 10, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw a McCarthy jersey at the ballpark a few weeks ago.
Why anyone spent $70 hard earned dollars on a Brandon McCarthy jersey blows my mind. Did this person really see signs that McCarthy was going to be good enough to be “his guy” over the next however many years?
gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them
by defensive indifference on Jul 10, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
stop making fun of wiz, asshole.
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
by larry on Jul 10, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're being a little harsh on B-Mac
His minor league numbers were pretty fucking good. And he actually did help the Sox stave off the Indians in 2005 as well, pitching better than 42 innings in August and September with a sub-2.00 ERA. Obviously some of that is selective endpoints, but I’m just saying that I wouldn’t ridicule someone for buying a B-Mac jersey. It’s certainly no worse than buying a Joe Borchard jersey while the guy was still in AA…
//hides
by CWSKeith on Jul 10, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have my Kenny Williams Jr. jersey on right now.
Property of: PAUL KONERKO Track and Field Academy & Steakhouse
by thecip on Jul 10, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ROFL...
Did you finally retire your Carey Schueler and Oney Guillen jerseys?
by SSH2005 on Jul 10, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone order their jordan danks jersey yet??
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
by furby2056 on Jul 10, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wear them when I'm eating messy food.
Property of: PAUL KONERKO Track and Field Academy & Steakhouse
by thecip on Jul 10, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have nothing against McCarthy.
Sure, he pitched fine leading up to the ‘05 playoffs. Not quite well enough to make the playoff roster though. Anyway, my point is…if you have enough money to buy someone’s jersey so quickly, you’ve probably got enough money to get a new one, already! Especially now that Danks is proving the Rangers to be stupid.
gonna out-energy a lot of guys, simply by over-attituding them
by defensive indifference on Jul 10, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Astros probably don't need another infielder...
but maybe the Sox could trade Ozuna to them for Oscar Villarreal.
Oscar Villarreal has refused his assignment to Triple-A, with the Houston Chronicle reporting that the Astros will release him if they can’t find a taker via trade.
Villarreal was designated for assignment last week, just three months after inking a two-year, $2.85 million deal with the Astros.Source: Houston Chronicle
by SSH2005 on Jul 10, 2008 10:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind, I just looked at his WHIP over the years...
Pretty bad.
by SSH2005 on Jul 10, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From the Trib
As Cabrera returned to the dugout, television cameras caught Dye high-fiving him but saying something that Cabrera apparently didn’t like.
Cabrera, as per his custom, quickly left the clubhouse while Guillen was addressing reporters and was unavailable for comment. Dye was somewhat more forthcoming.
“It was a misunderstanding,” Dye said. “A little bit of a misunderstanding. When you’re together for so long, things like that happen and after it was all said and done, we came up and hugged. It’s over.
“I’m not going to go into what it was about. It’s not necessarily that [the stolen base could have distracted me]. But it was a little something, and we’re fine now.”
"Lemonade was a popular drink back in the day and it still is.."
Gangstarr
by Big Daddy Kool on Jul 10, 2008 10:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The reason for the blowup is months
of aggravation from Dye towards OC. Last night just put him over the edge…wasn’t even OC’s fault.
Kind of like when I tell my wife I am taking the trash out and she’s says “FINE, but you never loved me
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 10, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"months of aggravation from Dye towards OC."
And the source would be….?
Pitching, defense, health.
by ballyb on Jul 10, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
somewhat related to this...
...i was under the impression that oc fit in very well with the angels and scioscia, etc. and that the angels were an org that doesn’t tolerate the selfishness, or at least any that is harmful to the clubhouse or winning baseball games. is that wrong, or was it true but something changed and maybe accelerated trading oc?
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 10, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
My take is that Cabrera and Dye haven’t liked each other most of the season, and Cabrera was upset that Dye was one of the few veterans who actually manned-up and spoke out against Cabrera’s poor attitude the first six weeks of the season.
Dye told the Sun-Times at the end of May, "Well, as far as it goes with another veteran that’s been around the league, we’re not going to mess with a guy’s routine and stop him from doing what he feels is right and works for him. If you try telling a veteran, ‘Hey, we do things this way,’ that could be disruptive, too. Then you have a key part of your lineup feeling like we’re piling on, going against everything we preached in spring training. If it was something like a lack of hustle, then the veterans would step in to pick him up. But a veteran like that, you just don’t want to come at him like that.’’
This thing was boiling for a while. It happened and it’s over with.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 10, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure those of us who work NEVER get angry with our co-workers,
for good reason or not. NEVER have issues, real or imagined, that have built up over time, because of personality, performance, or salary.
I just cannot realte to these guys.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 10:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Never
I also wish I had a guy as cool as Joe Cowley shoving his tape recorder in my face every day.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 10, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 10, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*relate* FCS
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by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't
As the pioneer of civil disobedience, I recommend Dye fast for a month and start making his own clothes.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 10, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Swaddling clothes
Homespun. And sandals. His bat should be a walking stick.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
asterisk
adam russel = barry jones redux?
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 10, 2008 11:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's gotta have the best wins/IP ratio in the majors.
Perhaps in all of recorded history.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His true goal
Is to have an untouchable wins/pitch count in all of recorded MLB history. He’s off to a great start.
by Brush Back on Jul 10, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
adam russell or barry jones
adam russell is like a nessie/vulture hybrid, truly unstoppable
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 10, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mariners release Richie Sexson...
The Seattle Post Intelligencer reports that the Mariners have released Richie Sexson.
The move was rumored to be on the verge of taking place three weeks ago and since then Sexson has hit .213/.391/.383 in 16 games, which actually qualifies as one of his better stretches this season. If this is the start of the Mariners’ second attempt at cleaning house, Jose Vidro should probably be next.Source: Seattle Post-Intelligencer
by SSH2005 on Jul 10, 2008 1:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
was at the a's-mariners game last night...
...and when i saw vidro playing first and hitting cleanup with an ops of i think under .600, i knew this was just a matter of time as you suggested weeks ago. what a couple of brutal lineups the a’s and m’s threw out there last night. who knew ryan sweeney was a 3 at the big league level.
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 10, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did, but it's not 2011 yet
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Jul 10, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think Boston
will pick him up, as insurance for Ortiz?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 10, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't be surprised by such a move...
but they still have Sean Casey who has hit well off the bench.
by SSH2005 on Jul 10, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
any chance at all kenny gives him a look?
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
by furby2056 on Jul 10, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would have made some sense when Konerko was on the D.L.
but I don’t see it happening now.
by SSH2005 on Jul 10, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he'll probably give him a look.
but KW is an ass man. he’ll pass.
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
by larry on Jul 10, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good call
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
by furby2056 on Jul 10, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking
The Kane County Cougars might pick him up for the hell of it.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 10, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Tigers just layed the smackdown on Kevin Slowey...
6 – 2, Tigers.
by SSH2005 on Jul 10, 2008 1:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nice
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
by furby2056 on Jul 10, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's nice for now
But.. Tigers still seem the more legitimate threat going forward so I don’t know how many of these games you want them to win.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 10, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF are they doing playing a day game?
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Jul 10, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they want to watch some kc/white sox tonight
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
by furby2056 on Jul 10, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
iirc
the tigers have some sort of tradition of doing this. even if it isn’t a getaway day (like if it’s opening a four game weekend series l ike this one) they play thursday in the afternoon. no idea where this comes from or why they do it.
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
by larry on Jul 10, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
from looking at their schedule
(they do the same thing against the rays in september), all of their thursday day games are designated “senior days”. so i guess they empty the nursing homes and bring them into the city for a game. we all know from watching wu and chiburb keel over in the third inning that old people can’t handle late starts. you know, after 3pm.
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
by larry on Jul 10, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you forgot bally
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 10, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sucks for colin cuz he doesn't wake up til 3
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
by furby2056 on Jul 10, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you have to be out of D-troit by 4:30?
That’s when this shit starts going down outside the Fox theatre.
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Jul 10, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe you do. i know how to handle myself.
pussy.
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
by larry on Jul 10, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would've been my guess -
the riots start around 6:30-7 PM, the fires around 8-8:30. Gotta be out of there by then or the flights don’t leave.
By the way, anyone catch “The Sports Reporters” Sunday AM? Mitchie Albom waxed rhapsodic about the effin Tiggers Stadium demolition. I’d love to see the scrapbook denoting the last 15 years. What a magical place…
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it isn't the start times, it's the "financial services" work...
Bally, WU, and I don’t stick around ‘till the whistle blows. We get to start our wines when the bell rings.
Besides, if we lasted the whole gamethread it would be ‘over keel’.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jul 10, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cheat
how about moving the ‘vote JD’ widget up for the 2-3 hours that are left?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 10, 2008 2:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
don't you want him to rest?
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jul 10, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
JD, not Cheat.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jul 10, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
will he get more than 1 AB?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 10, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe none. but have you travelled lately? it's an ordeal.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jul 10, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's going to travel somewhere regardless, isn't he?
even so, i’d prefer he chill for a bit rather than deal with the media, etc. during all-star week.
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 10, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus he might get roped into the HR Derby
When do they announce the rest of the AL participants?
by joewho112 on Jul 10, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nap times are not announced.
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jul 10, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no. lives in Dallas.
some people say
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jul 10, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Libertarian, you
Let the man choose his schedule. Grant him the opportunity. Give the brother some freedom.
Racist.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he goes, I hope he bats with nobody on base. wouldn't want to distract him...
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jul 10, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
That was nice.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 10, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Already there.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It don't go any higher
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Jul 10, 2008 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oh, ok
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 10, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jenn Sterger Would Not Like Erin Andrews To 'Suck It'
http://deadspin.com/5023913/jenn-sterger-would-not-like-erin-andrews-to-suck-it
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 10, 2008 2:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tim Tebow Is Touching Babies in Asia Again
http://deadspin.com/5023814/tim-tebow-is-touching-babies-in-asia-again
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 10, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could you tell me
what Dan Pasqua is doing now a days? Inquiring minds want to know.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 10, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Currently resides in Chicago, IL with his wife and his daughter Talia.
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 10, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great! Thanks.
How about Tattoo from Fantasy Island?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 10, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 10, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, Tattoo
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 10, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the little guy on the right "Da Plane Boss, Da Plane"
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 10, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not grindy enough
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 10, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tattoo or a mini Q???
Kind of resembles him….
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 10, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i was just gonna say that
little q gonna beat your asses
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
by furby2056 on Jul 10, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he died
Show mercy. I get to watch the Rangers.
by Tim from Texas on Jul 10, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tattoo=Herve Villechaize
Though popular with the public, Villechaize proved a difficult actor on Fantasy Island where he continually propositioned women and quarrelled with the producers. He was eventually fired after demanding that his pay be on par with that of co-star Ricardo Montalbán. The show’s popularity waned after this move, and it was soon cancelled. According to his former butler in an episode of the E! True Hollywood Story2, Villechaize never got over losing his job, and for the remainder of his life practiced an often nightly ritual of drinking in a darkened room while screaming obscenities at an episode of Fantasy Island playing on his television.
He made his final appearance in a cameo role in the 1988 erotic film Two Moon Junction.
Show mercy. I get to watch the Rangers.
by Tim from Texas on Jul 10, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This may be an urban legend
but he supoosedly was hung like a stallion.
Remeber Steve Dahl’s name for him? Herve Villachaizelounge.
RIP.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lives in Des Plaines
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jul 10, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoa
conflicting reports or do you mean Tattoo lives in Des Plaines?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 10, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought I replied to you (?)
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jul 10, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know, like "dee planes, dee planes"
When she farts, a little rainbow comes out...
by Chiburb on Jul 10, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
AH HA!
Nice one. Gold star for the day.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 10, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Talia Pasqua?
Sounds like sushi.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 10, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Todd Jones is awful...
how do you use him as your closer over Zumaya?
Twins score two runs to make it a 6-6 tie in the 9th.
by SSH2005 on Jul 10, 2008 3:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it’s time I throw in the towel and admit the Tigers are not the threat the Twins are long term.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 10, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
damnit.....
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
by furby2056 on Jul 10, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
adam dunn just hit a fucking moonshot
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
by furby2056 on Jul 10, 2008 3:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
is it the video clip that says 'Top 6' on gameday?
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2008_07_10_cinmlb_chnmlb_1&mode=gameday
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jul 10, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was hit ridiculously far.
How do you fuck a nut?!
by omnipotent grab on Jul 10, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as far as this one?
http://arizona.diamondbacks.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200807063080444
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 10, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just voted 10X for Longoria and Wright.
Its really annoying having to enter a new verification number for each vote.
How do you fuck a nut?!
by omnipotent grab on Jul 10, 2008 3:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it pisses my ass off
especially when i can’t read the damn number
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
by furby2056 on Jul 10, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's the deal with the distorted veri number?
It’s like bein’ on acid.
Marriotti's a fag.
by oahu420 on Jul 10, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
pudge up with bases loaded against joe nathan
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
by furby2056 on Jul 10, 2008 3:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tigers had bases loaded with one out earlier...
and Jeff Larish struck out on three pitches.
by SSH2005 on Jul 10, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Rodriguez strikes out to end the inning...
That’s pretty bad.
by SSH2005 on Jul 10, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
loads the bases on walks and then gets 2 k's
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
by furby2056 on Jul 10, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
strikes out swinging extras
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
by furby2056 on Jul 10, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mauer up with runners at the corners and 2 outs.
by SSH2005 on Jul 10, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Morneau with a solo homer in the 11th inning...
Man, the Tigers suck. The Twins are still the team to beat.
by SSH2005 on Jul 10, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
5-5; he's having a day.
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 10, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
The Twins are not good, please stop posting their score.
by defensive indifference on Jul 10, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, they are.
Until they aren’t. Then they’re clearly* not and never were.
*Seriously clearly, not clearly clearly)
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jul 10, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but I'm sick of hearing about them.
They’ve been incredibly hot for a month and they still aren’t ahead of us. I agree that they are a team to beat and I’ve been a leading Piranha Paranoid in years past but…we’re just much better than them this year.
There were five gamethreads for a game against the freakin’ Royals the other night. I think keeping loads of stupid ass Twins updates outta this site might keep it managable enough for me to try and keep up.
The Twins are not good, please stop posting their score.
by defensive indifference on Jul 10, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'll reiterate what i've said
twins are cooked. or however one prepares pirahna. unless arms and legs start falling off, the sox are the tallest midget in this division.
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
by larry on Jul 10, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what, no recipe?
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 10, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here are four:
http://ezinearticles.com/?Preparing-Piranha:-Four-Delicious-Recipes-for-Adventuresome-Eating&id=82857
The Twins are not good, please stop posting their score.
by defensive indifference on Jul 10, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will never try linking to anything again.
FIAL.
The Twins are not good, please stop posting their score.
by defensive indifference on Jul 10, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you implying he's a troll who is hungry?
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
by larry on Jul 10, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a troll now?
:(
The Twins are not good, please stop posting their score.
by defensive indifference on Jul 10, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought the idea was that he wanted a recipe for cooking the twins.
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 10, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and i forgot
that usually recipes are provided to trolls, my bad
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 10, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm not a troll
just hungry, that’s all. but maybe i could embrace being a troll similar to being british, sorry i mean english
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 10, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't get your jokes, american
regards
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 10, 2008 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
amazing play.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_HCJOFCxtA
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 10, 2008 3:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nice job, sox fans. longoria won.
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
by larry on Jul 10, 2008 4:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
don't blame me
i voted for kodos
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? "
by onlysoxfaninboston on Jul 10, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He got the People/US Weekly vote.
Thanks to mass confusion.
The Twins are not good, please stop posting their score.
by defensive indifference on Jul 10, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not complaining...
But seriously, how did he win?
TB packs a solid 12K into that ballpark against anyone other than the Yanks or Sawks, now he’s pulling in millions of votes over the span of 4 days.
I think Knobbs must have gotten riled up in support
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Jul 10, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sawx fans and their anti-giambi campaign.
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 10, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or milwaukee fans.
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
by larry on Jul 10, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
I bet if I head over to SoSH, there is a thread devoted to it.
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Jul 10, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the same thing.
Or maybe he got the AL East vote because the more All-Stars the Rays have, the more excuses the Yanks/Sawks fans have for losing to them.
The Twins are not good, please stop posting their score.
by defensive indifference on Jul 10, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big surprise.
Young, hot, rich, light-skinned.
Racists.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
by larry on Jul 10, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that you Larry?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 10, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
by larry on Jul 10, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that a knife in his hand?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 10, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's a comb. the suitcase is full of pomade.
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 10, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you know from pomade?
I had to look it up. I understand Butch Wax, Vitalis, and Brylcreem.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
o brother where are thou...
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 10, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a Dapper Dan man.
Property of: PAUL KONERKO Track and Field Academy & Steakhouse
by thecip on Jul 10, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot. Good movie, great soundtrack. Bought it.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you into bluegrass?
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 10, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somewhat - one of my long lost buddies was the son of Sonny Osborne
so I got into it around 20 years ago.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
picking up new music in your 80s?
who says you can’t teach an old dog new tricks!
by Trooper on Jul 10, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I knew you were Mike's brother
I pictured you like this, too. Like Maxwell Smart.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mike who? oh, shit, i fell for it again...
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 10, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What an absolute stud of a pitcher...
Jorge De La Rosa allowed seven runs in 3 2/3 innings against the Brewers on Thursday.
De La Rosa has managed a few decent outings lately, but the lowest his ERA has been this season is 6.23. He’s only managed to pitch six innings once in ten starts this year, so he’s not even eating innings effectively for Colorado.
Cy De La Rosa’s ERA is up to 7.26 now.
by SSH2005 on Jul 10, 2008 4:55 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
my vote for most random post of the day.
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
by larry on Jul 10, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
point being?
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 10, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot - we're not good
How are we in 1st? HOW?
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
by larry on Jul 10, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was a post for colintj who thinks that De La Rosa is a good pitcher.
by SSH2005 on Jul 10, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
GET A RUM FLAGGOTS!!!!!!!!!!!
"What'cha gonna do brother when Ozunamania runs wild on you?"
by larry on Jul 10, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for summarizing my views so accurately
are you trying to use stats around here? what the fuck do you think this is? - MM
by colintj on Jul 10, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got my hands on an advanced copy of tomorrow's Sun Times
Cowley:
“It seems that Orlando Cabrera not only gets under everyones skin in the Clubhouse, Press Box and Official Scorer’s Box, but he also single handedly made it impossible for Jermaine Dye to win in the Final Spot All-Star Voting. His tirade with Dye in the dugout after Wednesday night’s game caused Dye to get upset and launch a few f’bombs that were caught on camera by Comcast Sportsnet Plus. These f’bombs so angered the population of Utah that each household I am told, voted 25 times each for Evan Longoria. After I finally caught up to JD at the urinal, he stated that Cabrera and he had a misunderstanding and that the population of Utah should get money by Uribe’s donkey. Further details are to come later.”
Slezak
“Jermaine Dye getting snubbed by fans of MLB is just further proof that blow up dolls will tarnish your reputation with the American Public.”
Marrioti
“The Blizzard is the reason Jermaine Dye is going to be at home over the All-Star Break and not in New York. Time to back up that bus with Reinsdorf, Williams and the Blizzard out of town. Oh and Telander is a douchebag.”
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 10, 2008 5:01 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
money="monkey fucked"
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 10, 2008 5:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BSS, YOU are money
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
white sox v. greinke
cabrera: 10 pa/.300/.300/.400/.700
pierzynski: 18 pa/.412/.444/.647/1.091
quentin: 3 pa/.500/.667/2.000/2.667
dye: 27 pa/.308/.333/.615/.948
thome: 14 pa/.231/.286/.692/.978
konerko: 36 pa/.100/.250/.200/.450
swisher: 8 pa/.375/.375/.750/1.125
crede: 24 pa/.391/.417/.565/.982
ramirez: 3 pa/.667/.667/2.000/2.667
uribe: 18 pa/.313/.353/.563/.916
hall: 7 pa/.286/.286/.429/.715
anderson & wise: no pa
overall: .297/.347/.561/.908 in 168 pa
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 10, 2008 5:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So who's the genius who posted within the last 48 hours that because Grienke
was pitching we’d probably lose this series?
Looks like we got Zac’s number. Except Eeyore. (Sigh. Another Golden Sombrero.)
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
may be a good night to let wise or b.a. have a crack at greinke...
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 10, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely.
Give it a rest, PK. Save it for tomorrow, you old POS.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
on the other side of the ledger,
the current royals are hitting a collective .241/.277/.374/.651 off of buehrle in 185 pa. hasn’t faced aviles or gload.
"I was going to take it easy on you and make it fast, but then you had to go and play the fucking hero."
by Toonderstrook on Jul 10, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm calling my bookie now.
Chiburb? You in? I wanna lay down a grand tonight.
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i love eeyore that's solid man
i don’t want to see any more of this tomfoolery on this guestbook. and get off my motherfucking lawn.---good ole larry
by furby2056 on Jul 10, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Emo Pauly
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i194/lilithstarr/EmoEeyore.jpg
How do you fuck a nut?!
by omnipotent grab on Jul 10, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sox Machine is a genius
CWS: Slashing negative expectations since May, 2008.
by winningugly on Jul 10, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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