Floyd Wins Game, Loses Hair
Gavin Floyd must have been pretty confident that he was going to suck this season. Why else would he make a pre-season bet that if he won 12 games, he would have to shave his head? With an attitude like that, Floyd would fit right in around here. I mean he almost sounds like someone around here who always thinks the worst, and who has also put his hair on the line in the past.
Floyd looked like he wouldn't get number 12 Sunday when, in the first inning, he started hanging curveballs and handing out free passes. A hanging curveball to Dustin Pedrioa and a walk to JD Drew set the stage for Mike Lowell to drive yet another hanging curve, on 0-2 no less, just over the left field wall. It was nothing more than a 331 foot lazy fly ball, and looked like it could have been caught by Carlos Quentin. But Q! misjudged his distance to the wall, caught his shoulder on the underside of the padding and came up just short with a pathetic-looking jump attempt.
Floyd settled down a bit after the first, and especially after the Sox offense started to get to Buchholz. Jermaine Dye got things started for the Sox with a solo-shot in the second, but it was the third inning that proved the difference. Carlos Quentin made up for his mediocre defensive effort with his American League leading 32nd home run, a game-tying 2-run shot, which was followed two batters later by Jim Thome's 2-run blast on a Buchholz hanger. All of the Sox homers were tape-measure shots.
Floyd cruised into the 6th, where he faltered, and was pulled after just 81 pitches. From there the Sox bullpen generally shut the BoSox down, pitching 3.2 innings of no-hit ball. The Red Sox loaded the bases against Matt Thornton in the 7th inning, but, as I pointed out in the gamethread, he wasn't pitching poorly or getting squeezed. It was just that close pitches didn't go his way. Octavio Dotel put out the fire in just two pitches by inducing a double play from Lowell, and Bobby Jenks worked a 1-2-3 night to close things out.
A bit of a brief recap tonight. I'm working on another project you should see later this week.
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Dotel
That the same guy who NEVER does any of his good work in high lev situations?
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Aug 10, 2008 10:51 PM CDT 0 recs
Octavio Dotel is the unclutchiest clutch that's ever clutched
by CWSKeith on
Aug 10, 2008 11:56 PM CDT
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I was at the Detroit game on Thursday.
Dotel stood by the foul pole in the bullpen for 3 innings and signed autographs, posters, mitts, jerseys, etc. and just shot the bull with anyone who wandered by.
I’d never seen that before (while the game was happening).
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on
Aug 11, 2008 12:07 PM CDT
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Dotel the player
I was sitting near that section. Did you see how much time Dotel spent talking to the blonde?
My wife claims she saw the blonde sign some paper and pass it to Dotel, so he likely got something for his laudable p.r. work
by vaughan3 on
Aug 11, 2008 12:24 PM CDT
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Didn't see the blonde, just a constant stream of kids.
I was not playing too close att’n, though.
Pitching, defense and health.
by ballyb on
Aug 11, 2008 1:13 PM CDT
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Had to get his mind off the terrifying atmosphere
I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)
by Ozzie Montana on
Aug 11, 2008 12:25 PM CDT
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remember. it's not just the game situation.
it’s the whole atmosphere.
the atmosphere is just too much for me.
by larry on
Aug 11, 2008 10:31 AM CDT
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Dotel vs. Mike Lowell =
The stoppable force vs. the movable object.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Aug 11, 2008 10:33 AM CDT
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i guess the ambiance wasn't right, huh. must have been the natural lighting and serene setting.
the atmosphere is just too much for me.
by larry on
Aug 11, 2008 10:34 AM CDT
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The sun shines...
on a dog’s ass once in a while. Meh.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Aug 11, 2008 10:35 AM CDT
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uh huh. keep the pearls coming, atmosphere man.
the atmosphere is just too much for me.
by larry on
Aug 11, 2008 10:36 AM CDT
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he led the team in WPA yesterday
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Aug 11, 2008 11:43 AM CDT
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Offense continues to pick up pitching, a trend that will need to continue
Just get to the tourney and anything can happen. The Tigers are not a realistic threat at this point and the Twins are going on a gut check road trip. It’s time to make hay while the sun shines. The continued offense from Quentin, Thome and Dye is huge—none of these guys appears to be slowing down.
AJ continues to be brutal in the 2 hole, and it’s costing the big three quite a few RBI chances. Ozzie should have plugged Swisher back into leadoff and O-Cab down to 2nd long ago, well, I think these last two weeks or so have cemented that.
Count’s injury sucks obviously, but I’m feeling OK about Carasco as a 5th starter for 1/4 season. It’s the bullpen that is more worrisome. Linebrink needs to come back and be effective by the end of August IMO, or the team will continue to need big leads - something the offense and starting pitching have not shown an ability to consistantly provide - in order to be successful.
If Liney can come back effective it slots the bullpen guys to where they should be—Thornon and Dotel for the 6th and 7th, Liney in the 8th, and the fat man in the 9th. Jenks looked good today, that was a positive.
All in all a good win and with Danks going tommorow against a weakened Boston lineup I like the chances of a three out of four series.
by madvillian on Aug 10, 2008 11:05 PM CDT 0 recs
definitely agree with ya on AJ...fucking sucking it up
you can even leave OC in the leadoff slot and put swish in the two hole
i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry
by furby2056 on
Aug 10, 2008 11:29 PM CDT
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I think we will win tomm
But I agree we do need Linebrink back (and performing as well)... that is my biggest worry about the team right now. Not downplaying the offense, because they have been pretty good. But you need a bullpen to win obviously
by 815Sox on
Aug 11, 2008 12:57 AM CDT
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Floyd is a huge key down the stretch
Glad to see Gavin notch a W. I just wrote on my own blog last night that biggest keys down the stretch are Gavin, Javy, Thornton and Dotel. We simply have to get quality outings out of Gavin and Javy consistently, and I think we will. Thornton and Dotel need to bridge the gap to Bobby, and despite their high ERA recently they both have solid K rates. We’re just giving up way too many hits as a staff. If we cut down on that (partly the fault of our D) we’ll be fine. And will be…because we’re going to playoffs.
The funny thing about Gavin is that I can totally see him making a bet like that. I remember watching the game he pitched against Detroit earlier this year when he took a no-no deep into the game (the first time) and I said to my buddy that there was no way he has the stones to complete it. He just looks scared and unsure of himself…and it shows in his control. I like Gavin and he has wicked stuff…I just want to see more assertiveness and confidence in him. I have no first hand knowledge, but I would think that this has to drive Ozzie crazy.
(by the way…longtime reader but first time poster. I really like this site a lot…keep up the good work!)
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by Midwest Sports Fans on Aug 10, 2008 11:55 PM CDT 0 recs
hard to be confident when you can't repeat your mechanics consistently enough to throw good strikes
through 6 innings
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Aug 11, 2008 12:01 AM CDT
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I"m trying to figure out how these two sentences relate
The funny thing about Gavin is that I can totally see him making a bet like that. I remember watching the game he pitched against Detroit earlier this year when he took a no-no deep into the game (the first time) and I said to my buddy that there was no way he has the stones to complete it.
I CAN'T STAND IT.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on
Aug 11, 2008 9:31 AM CDT
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In relation to the original post...
The original post mentioned that Gavin had lost a bet that if he won 12 games he would have to shave his head. The point is that Gavin always looks terrified and rarely, if ever, has a confident expression on his face…hence the lack of surprise at him making the bet where he expects to NOT win a certain number of games, and the lack of confidence in him completing a no-hitter.
I like Gavin, and he has good stuff when he’s on…but he can be terrifyingly frustrating to watch sometimes.
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by Midwest Sports Fans on
Aug 11, 2008 5:38 PM CDT
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Fuck Gavin is emo to the core. He didnt expect to do well enough to win 12 games, talk about being negative.
At least he lost the goofy haircut.
This comment adds nothing of worth but I thought it needed to be said.
"You know, if you stab a man in the dead of winter, steam will rise up from the wounds. Indians believed it was his soul escaping from his body." - Mikita's Manager, Glen
by omnipotent grab on Aug 11, 2008 12:10 AM CDT 0 recs
if the members of this site only posted the comments that added worth
sss would have been shut down by now. or at least it would be a ghost town.
/worthless comment about worthless comments.
You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.
by MarketMaker on
Aug 11, 2008 12:19 AM CDT
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If our comments had to have merit
I never would have registered here.
I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)
by Ozzie Montana on
Aug 11, 2008 12:22 AM CDT
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Saw this posted at another Sox board...
Gammons said he expects the White Sox to try and trade for Washburn tomorrow.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 11, 2008 12:18 AM CDT 0 recs
I hope they want The Arsonist
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Aug 11, 2008 12:23 AM CDT
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Send them MacDougal *and* Wasserman
Little did we know that Wasserman is German for “thermite”
Coffee is for closers.
by vince_ on
Aug 11, 2008 12:25 AM CDT
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We wish...
But anyways, so whomever the White Sox wish to trade for Washburn also has to clear waivers if they are currently on the 40-man roster, right? And any minor leaguer not on the 40-man roster can be traded at will?
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Aug 11, 2008 12:29 AM CDT
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Thats not as funny.
"You know, if you stab a man in the dead of winter, steam will rise up from the wounds. Indians believed it was his soul escaping from his body." - Mikita's Manager, Glen
by omnipotent grab on
Aug 11, 2008 1:59 AM CDT
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great...before you know it, all of the characters will be gone. the chemistry is sure to follow. :-(
"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"
by Toonderstrook on
Aug 11, 2008 12:29 AM CDT
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We can all see Ozuna was a huge part of the pitching staff
He leaves, they are posting 5+ ERAs
Coffee is for closers.
by vince_ on
Aug 11, 2008 12:35 AM CDT
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I think this weekend series has done enough damage to any claim AJ had to the 2nd spot
I know others will say batting order isn’t all that important, but if it’s going to cost you a few runs, why not re-tool it to make it more effective for a playoff run? What’s so scary about batting Swisher 2nd or leadoff, and putting AJ before Chelexi?
I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 11, 2008 12:20 AM CDT 0 recs
it's just the bitching i'm against.
i think it’s pretty obvious that AJ in the two hole isn’t optimized
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Aug 11, 2008 12:30 AM CDT
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It's surprising that no change has been made yet...
Swisher has 70 walks to Pierzynski’s 16. For all the OBP talking Ozzie did before the season, it seems like he more or less looks at batting averages mainly. The fact that Swisher is a decent baserunner and also has more speed than the turtle Pierzynski makes it an even more surprising non-move by Ozzie.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Aug 11, 2008 12:38 AM CDT
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One can only hope...
Swisher (.352 OBP) should definitely replace Pierzynski (.318 OBP) in the two spot.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Aug 11, 2008 12:31 AM CDT
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not to mention that swisher sees over a pitch more (4.54) than aj (3.34) per pa.
can’t hurt q! and jd to get more extended looks prior to an ab.
"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"
by Toonderstrook on
Aug 11, 2008 12:38 AM CDT
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but we should stop bitching about this (and maybe e-mail ozzie, kenny, rick hahn, etc. instead).
"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"
by Toonderstrook on
Aug 11, 2008 12:41 AM CDT
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I doubt it will matter...
Ozzie makes dee focking lineup.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Aug 11, 2008 12:46 AM CDT
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the Twins won this years WS
with a leadoff man OBPing .292. There must be more than one way to do this.
I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator
by Nordhagen on
Aug 11, 2008 9:09 AM CDT
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Even though Hawk thinks Carlos Gomez is a sure-fire Hall of Famer...
the Twins were smart enough to remove him from the leadoff spot and replace him with Denard Span and his .404 OBP.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Aug 11, 2008 9:55 AM CDT
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ah yeah, you're right
I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator
by Nordhagen on
Aug 11, 2008 10:24 AM CDT
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no he's not. they only went to span after they'd clinched.
the atmosphere is just too much for me.
by larry on
Aug 11, 2008 10:27 AM CDT
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Span ain't going to keep that up
and isn’t Gomez done for the year or whatever?
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Aug 11, 2008 11:44 AM CDT
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Probably not but it is working so far.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Aug 11, 2008 12:34 PM CDT
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I like this photo

Ooooo it’s so shiny, can I do blow off it?
I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 11, 2008 12:37 AM CDT 0 recs
I hate that douchebag
The supposed ‘president of course”... why didn’t that pretzel finish the job
by 815Sox on
Aug 11, 2008 12:39 AM CDT
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the blind date must have gone very well.
"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"
by Toonderstrook on
Aug 11, 2008 12:40 AM CDT
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lol
It actually went pretty well..
anyways, my dad had tickets to this game, but auctioned them off at a fundraiser. Some big BoSox fans paid a decent sum for tonight… suckers
by 815Sox on
Aug 11, 2008 12:43 AM CDT
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and yes
I’m kinda drunk
Generation Kill was pretty good tonight
by 815Sox on
Aug 11, 2008 12:45 AM CDT
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we'll call her stella blue.
"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"
by Toonderstrook on
Aug 11, 2008 12:45 AM CDT
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Great Song
I’m thinking about hitting up Ratdog/ABB on the 28th
by 815Sox on
Aug 11, 2008 12:48 AM CDT
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at charter one? should be great, as long as you love abb. ratdog has disappointed last two times i've seen them, including last month.
"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"
by Toonderstrook on
Aug 11, 2008 12:48 AM CDT
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yeah
Ratdog is hit or miss for me… I’ve seen some good ones and some stinkers. ABB doesn’t usually disappoint all things considered.
by 815Sox on
Aug 11, 2008 12:50 AM CDT
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Well, Washburn is scheduled to pitch against Garland and the Angels on Tuesday in L.A.
We shall see if he is still a Seattle Mariner by that game.
One nice thing I noticed about Washburn is that he has been much better on the road this year instead of using a big home ballpark to skew his numbers. He has also pitched well at The Cell in his career.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 11, 2008 12:56 AM CDT 0 recs
Sox pursuing Washburn...
Unless a waiver trade can be made - and the Sox are pursuing Seattle Mariners left-hander Jarrod Washburn - manager Ozzie Guillen plans to slide right-handed reliever D.J. Carrasco into Contreras’ spot in the rotation.
According to Phil Rogers, the Rockies wanted Aaron Poreda in any deal for Brian Fuentes…
When Williams talked to Colorado about highly sought reliever Brian Fuentes, the Rockies told him they wouldn’t make the deal unless it included 2007 first-round pick Aaron Poreda, who is finding the strike zone without losing his high-90s fastball. Williams will consider deals for available starters, such as Cleveland’s Paul Byrd, but don’t be surprised if Williams opts for a look at Poreda, promoting him to take Contreras’ turn against Kansas City on Thursday.
In going 11-11 since the All-Star break, the White Sox have averaged 5.4 runs per game. That would be a comfortable level of run support if the Sox were pitching well, but they’re not. That’s why general manager Ken Williams traded for left-hander Horacio Ramirez, who replaces the not-ready-for-prime-time Boone Logan, and continues to search for a starter.Cleveland’s Paul Byrd is a great fit but seems unlikely to clear waivers to facilitate a post-deadline trade.
I don’t think anybody but the MLB and its teams actually know which players have cleared waivers. I have seen articles saying that both Washburn and Byrd have not yet cleared waivers and also some articles saying that they both have cleared waivers.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 11, 2008 1:16 AM CDT 0 recs
i think we can be confident that phil sure doesn't know.
"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"
by Toonderstrook on
Aug 11, 2008 1:20 AM CDT
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Still awake?
Forget to take your melatonin? OPOS.
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Aug 11, 2008 1:27 AM CDT
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yeah no kidding
what does phil do anyway? is he actually their beat guy or what?
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by colintj on
Aug 11, 2008 1:42 AM CDT
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Tribune Sports Editor to Phil "Hey we need some filler material for the page, you got anything else to do?"
"You know, if you stab a man in the dead of winter, steam will rise up from the wounds. Indians believed it was his soul escaping from his body." - Mikita's Manager, Glen
by omnipotent grab on
Aug 11, 2008 2:04 AM CDT
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Off to Chicago - have a great week.
If you are at the game Wednesday look for the douchebag in the Alexei shirt in a sky box making a drunken ass of himself – that would be me.
My fervent hope is we are still in 1st by next Sunday, when I get home.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Aug 11, 2008 8:25 AM CDT 0 recs
an appropriate alert has been issued to the opponent's first base coach.
by The Actual El Guapo on
Aug 11, 2008 8:49 AM CDT
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It's KC - gotta keep up the tradition.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on
Aug 11, 2008 8:57 AM CDT
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Represent!
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on
Aug 11, 2008 10:03 AM CDT
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If want to hit Miller's Pub before the game, I'll pick up the tab...
Say around 3:30 or 4:00? Easy to jump on the El from there too.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on
Aug 11, 2008 10:07 AM CDT
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I want to go!! Bill Veeck section?
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on
Aug 11, 2008 10:19 AM CDT
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yes, but the crap is off the walls for "renovation". Bartender says 'back in a month'.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on
Aug 11, 2008 10:37 AM CDT
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"...another project you should see later this week."
Such the tease. I’m betting it’s a lovely Q-collage.
by palehose67 on Aug 11, 2008 8:33 AM CDT 0 recs
1. New slogan - "Treadmill to Nowhere" no longer accurate (since we're in first).
2. Starting a pool on who is the next Sox to change his facial/head hair (Shave? Dye? Grow?).
I can’t wait.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on
Aug 11, 2008 9:00 AM CDT
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My new slogan nomination
“The damage is quite severe”
I think it works on many levels.
Coffee is for closers.
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