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Floyd Wins Game, Loses Hair

Gavin Floyd must have been pretty confident that he was going to suck this season. Why else would he make a pre-season bet that if he won 12 games, he would have to shave his head? With an attitude like that, Floyd would fit right in around here. I mean he almost sounds like someone around here who always thinks the worst, and who has also put his hair on the line in the past.

Floyd looked like he wouldn't get number 12 Sunday when, in the first inning, he started hanging curveballs and handing out free passes. A hanging curveball to Dustin Pedrioa and a walk to JD Drew set the stage for Mike Lowell to drive yet another hanging curve, on 0-2 no less, just over the left field wall. It was nothing more than a 331 foot lazy fly ball, and looked like it could have been caught by Carlos Quentin. But Q! misjudged his distance to the wall, caught his shoulder on the underside of the padding and came up just short with a pathetic-looking jump attempt.

Floyd settled down a bit after the first, and especially after the Sox offense started to get to Buchholz. Jermaine Dye got things started for the Sox with a solo-shot in the second, but it was the third inning that proved the difference. Carlos Quentin made up for his mediocre defensive effort with his American League leading 32nd home run, a game-tying 2-run shot, which was followed two batters later by Jim Thome's 2-run blast on a Buchholz hanger. All of the Sox homers were tape-measure shots.

Floyd cruised into the 6th, where he faltered, and was pulled after just 81 pitches. From there the Sox bullpen generally shut the BoSox down, pitching 3.2 innings of no-hit ball. The Red Sox loaded the bases against Matt Thornton in the 7th inning, but, as I pointed out in the gamethread, he wasn't pitching poorly or getting squeezed. It was just that close pitches didn't go his way. Octavio Dotel put out the fire in just two pitches by inducing a double play from Lowell, and Bobby Jenks worked a 1-2-3 night to close things out.

A bit of a brief recap tonight. I'm working on another project you should see later this week.

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Dotel

That the same guy who NEVER does any of his good work in high lev situations?

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Aug 10, 2008 10:51 PM CDT   0 recs

I was at the Detroit game on Thursday.

Dotel stood by the foul pole in the bullpen for 3 innings and signed autographs, posters, mitts, jerseys, etc. and just shot the bull with anyone who wandered by.

I’d never seen that before (while the game was happening).

Pitching, defense and health.

by ballyb on Aug 11, 2008 12:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Dotel the player

I was sitting near that section. Did you see how much time Dotel spent talking to the blonde?
My wife claims she saw the blonde sign some paper and pass it to Dotel, so he likely got something for his laudable p.r. work

by vaughan3 on Aug 11, 2008 12:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Didn't see the blonde, just a constant stream of kids.

I was not playing too close att’n, though.

Pitching, defense and health.

by ballyb on Aug 11, 2008 1:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Had to get his mind off the terrifying atmosphere

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 11, 2008 12:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

remember. it's not just the game situation.

it’s the whole atmosphere.

the atmosphere is just too much for me.

by larry on Aug 11, 2008 10:31 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Dotel vs. Mike Lowell =

The stoppable force vs. the movable object.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Aug 11, 2008 10:33 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

he led the team in WPA yesterday

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 11, 2008 11:43 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Offense continues to pick up pitching, a trend that will need to continue

Just get to the tourney and anything can happen. The Tigers are not a realistic threat at this point and the Twins are going on a gut check road trip. It’s time to make hay while the sun shines. The continued offense from Quentin, Thome and Dye is huge—none of these guys appears to be slowing down.

AJ continues to be brutal in the 2 hole, and it’s costing the big three quite a few RBI chances. Ozzie should have plugged Swisher back into leadoff and O-Cab down to 2nd long ago, well, I think these last two weeks or so have cemented that.

Count’s injury sucks obviously, but I’m feeling OK about Carasco as a 5th starter for 1/4 season. It’s the bullpen that is more worrisome. Linebrink needs to come back and be effective by the end of August IMO, or the team will continue to need big leads - something the offense and starting pitching have not shown an ability to consistantly provide - in order to be successful.

If Liney can come back effective it slots the bullpen guys to where they should be—Thornon and Dotel for the 6th and 7th, Liney in the 8th, and the fat man in the 9th. Jenks looked good today, that was a positive.

All in all a good win and with Danks going tommorow against a weakened Boston lineup I like the chances of a three out of four series.

by madvillian on Aug 10, 2008 11:05 PM CDT   0 recs

definitely agree with ya on AJ...fucking sucking it up

you can even leave OC in the leadoff slot and put swish in the two hole

i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry

by furby2056 on Aug 10, 2008 11:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think we will win tomm

But I agree we do need Linebrink back (and performing as well)... that is my biggest worry about the team right now. Not downplaying the offense, because they have been pretty good. But you need a bullpen to win obviously

by 815Sox on Aug 11, 2008 12:57 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

on that note

insert Q superman picture here

by 815Sox on Aug 11, 2008 12:57 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Floyd is a huge key down the stretch

Glad to see Gavin notch a W. I just wrote on my own blog last night that biggest keys down the stretch are Gavin, Javy, Thornton and Dotel. We simply have to get quality outings out of Gavin and Javy consistently, and I think we will. Thornton and Dotel need to bridge the gap to Bobby, and despite their high ERA recently they both have solid K rates. We’re just giving up way too many hits as a staff. If we cut down on that (partly the fault of our D) we’ll be fine. And will be…because we’re going to playoffs.

The funny thing about Gavin is that I can totally see him making a bet like that. I remember watching the game he pitched against Detroit earlier this year when he took a no-no deep into the game (the first time) and I said to my buddy that there was no way he has the stones to complete it. He just looks scared and unsure of himself…and it shows in his control. I like Gavin and he has wicked stuff…I just want to see more assertiveness and confidence in him. I have no first hand knowledge, but I would think that this has to drive Ozzie crazy.

(by the way…longtime reader but first time poster. I really like this site a lot…keep up the good work!)

Jerod Morris
http://www.midwestsportsfans.com

by Midwest Sports Fans on Aug 10, 2008 11:55 PM CDT   0 recs

hard to be confident when you can't repeat your mechanics consistently enough to throw good strikes

through 6 innings

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 11, 2008 12:01 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I"m trying to figure out how these two sentences relate

The funny thing about Gavin is that I can totally see him making a bet like that. I remember watching the game he pitched against Detroit earlier this year when he took a no-no deep into the game (the first time) and I said to my buddy that there was no way he has the stones to complete it.

I CAN'T STAND IT.
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Aug 11, 2008 9:31 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

In relation to the original post...

The original post mentioned that Gavin had lost a bet that if he won 12 games he would have to shave his head. The point is that Gavin always looks terrified and rarely, if ever, has a confident expression on his face…hence the lack of surprise at him making the bet where he expects to NOT win a certain number of games, and the lack of confidence in him completing a no-hitter.

I like Gavin, and he has good stuff when he’s on…but he can be terrifyingly frustrating to watch sometimes.

Jerod Morris
http://www.midwestsportsfans.com

by Midwest Sports Fans on Aug 11, 2008 5:38 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Fuck Gavin is emo to the core. He didnt expect to do well enough to win 12 games, talk about being negative.

At least he lost the goofy haircut.

This comment adds nothing of worth but I thought it needed to be said.

"You know, if you stab a man in the dead of winter, steam will rise up from the wounds. Indians believed it was his soul escaping from his body." - Mikita's Manager, Glen

by omnipotent grab on Aug 11, 2008 12:10 AM CDT   0 recs

if the members of this site only posted the comments that added worth

sss would have been shut down by now. or at least it would be a ghost town.

/worthless comment about worthless comments.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Aug 11, 2008 12:19 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

If our comments had to have merit

I never would have registered here.

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 11, 2008 12:22 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Saw this posted at another Sox board...
Gammons said he expects the White Sox to try and trade for Washburn tomorrow.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 11, 2008 12:18 AM CDT   0 recs

I hope they want The Arsonist

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 11, 2008 12:23 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Send them MacDougal *and* Wasserman

Little did we know that Wasserman is German for “thermite”

Coffee is for closers.

by vince_ on Aug 11, 2008 12:25 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

We wish...

But anyways, so whomever the White Sox wish to trade for Washburn also has to clear waivers if they are currently on the 40-man roster, right? And any minor leaguer not on the 40-man roster can be traded at will?

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 11, 2008 12:29 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thats not as funny.

"You know, if you stab a man in the dead of winter, steam will rise up from the wounds. Indians believed it was his soul escaping from his body." - Mikita's Manager, Glen

by omnipotent grab on Aug 11, 2008 1:59 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

great...before you know it, all of the characters will be gone. the chemistry is sure to follow. :-(

"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"

by Toonderstrook on Aug 11, 2008 12:29 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

We can all see Ozuna was a huge part of the pitching staff

He leaves, they are posting 5+ ERAs

Coffee is for closers.

by vince_ on Aug 11, 2008 12:35 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think this weekend series has done enough damage to any claim AJ had to the 2nd spot

I know others will say batting order isn’t all that important, but if it’s going to cost you a few runs, why not re-tool it to make it more effective for a playoff run? What’s so scary about batting Swisher 2nd or leadoff, and putting AJ before Chelexi?

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 11, 2008 12:20 AM CDT   0 recs

it's just the bitching i'm against.

i think it’s pretty obvious that AJ in the two hole isn’t optimized

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 11, 2008 12:30 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's surprising that no change has been made yet...

Swisher has 70 walks to Pierzynski’s 16. For all the OBP talking Ozzie did before the season, it seems like he more or less looks at batting averages mainly. The fact that Swisher is a decent baserunner and also has more speed than the turtle Pierzynski makes it an even more surprising non-move by Ozzie.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 11, 2008 12:38 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

One can only hope...

Swisher (.352 OBP) should definitely replace Pierzynski (.318 OBP) in the two spot.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 11, 2008 12:31 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

not to mention that swisher sees over a pitch more (4.54) than aj (3.34) per pa.

can’t hurt q! and jd to get more extended looks prior to an ab.

"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"

by Toonderstrook on Aug 11, 2008 12:38 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

but we should stop bitching about this (and maybe e-mail ozzie, kenny, rick hahn, etc. instead).

"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"

by Toonderstrook on Aug 11, 2008 12:41 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I doubt it will matter...

Ozzie makes dee focking lineup.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 11, 2008 12:46 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

the Twins won this years WS

with a leadoff man OBPing .292. There must be more than one way to do this.

I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator

by Nordhagen on Aug 11, 2008 9:09 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Even though Hawk thinks Carlos Gomez is a sure-fire Hall of Famer...

the Twins were smart enough to remove him from the leadoff spot and replace him with Denard Span and his .404 OBP.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 11, 2008 9:55 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

ah yeah, you're right

I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator

by Nordhagen on Aug 11, 2008 10:24 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Span ain't going to keep that up

and isn’t Gomez done for the year or whatever?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 11, 2008 11:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

no

the atmosphere is just too much for me.

by larry on Aug 11, 2008 11:46 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Probably not but it is working so far.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 11, 2008 12:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I like this photo


Ooooo it’s so shiny, can I do blow off it?

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 11, 2008 12:37 AM CDT   0 recs

I hate that douchebag

The supposed ‘president of course”... why didn’t that pretzel finish the job

by 815Sox on Aug 11, 2008 12:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

the blind date must have gone very well.

"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"

by Toonderstrook on Aug 11, 2008 12:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

lol

It actually went pretty well..

anyways, my dad had tickets to this game, but auctioned them off at a fundraiser. Some big BoSox fans paid a decent sum for tonight… suckers

by 815Sox on Aug 11, 2008 12:43 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

and yes

I’m kinda drunk

Generation Kill was pretty good tonight

by 815Sox on Aug 11, 2008 12:45 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

we'll call her stella blue.

"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"

by Toonderstrook on Aug 11, 2008 12:45 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Great Song

I’m thinking about hitting up Ratdog/ABB on the 28th

by 815Sox on Aug 11, 2008 12:48 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

Ratdog is hit or miss for me… I’ve seen some good ones and some stinkers. ABB doesn’t usually disappoint all things considered.

by 815Sox on Aug 11, 2008 12:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, Washburn is scheduled to pitch against Garland and the Angels on Tuesday in L.A.

We shall see if he is still a Seattle Mariner by that game.

One nice thing I noticed about Washburn is that he has been much better on the road this year instead of using a big home ballpark to skew his numbers. He has also pitched well at The Cell in his career.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 11, 2008 12:56 AM CDT   0 recs

Sox pursuing Washburn...

Chris De Luca wrote:

Unless a waiver trade can be made - and the Sox are pursuing Seattle Mariners left-hander Jarrod Washburn - manager Ozzie Guillen plans to slide right-handed reliever D.J. Carrasco into Contreras’ spot in the rotation.

According to Phil Rogers, the Rockies wanted Aaron Poreda in any deal for Brian Fuentes…

When Williams talked to Colorado about highly sought reliever Brian Fuentes, the Rockies told him they wouldn’t make the deal unless it included 2007 first-round pick Aaron Poreda, who is finding the strike zone without losing his high-90s fastball. Williams will consider deals for available starters, such as Cleveland’s Paul Byrd, but don’t be surprised if Williams opts for a look at Poreda, promoting him to take Contreras’ turn against Kansas City on Thursday.
In going 11-11 since the All-Star break, the White Sox have averaged 5.4 runs per game. That would be a comfortable level of run support if the Sox were pitching well, but they’re not. That’s why general manager Ken Williams traded for left-hander Horacio Ramirez, who replaces the not-ready-for-prime-time Boone Logan, and continues to search for a starter.

Cleveland’s Paul Byrd is a great fit but seems unlikely to clear waivers to facilitate a post-deadline trade.

I don’t think anybody but the MLB and its teams actually know which players have cleared waivers. I have seen articles saying that both Washburn and Byrd have not yet cleared waivers and also some articles saying that they both have cleared waivers.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 11, 2008 1:16 AM CDT   0 recs

i think we can be confident that phil sure doesn't know.

"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"

by Toonderstrook on Aug 11, 2008 1:20 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Still awake?

Forget to take your melatonin? OPOS.

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 11, 2008 1:27 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah no kidding

what does phil do anyway? is he actually their beat guy or what?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 11, 2008 1:42 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Tribune Sports Editor to Phil "Hey we need some filler material for the page, you got anything else to do?"

"You know, if you stab a man in the dead of winter, steam will rise up from the wounds. Indians believed it was his soul escaping from his body." - Mikita's Manager, Glen

by omnipotent grab on Aug 11, 2008 2:04 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Off to Chicago - have a great week.

If you are at the game Wednesday look for the douchebag in the Alexei shirt in a sky box making a drunken ass of himself – that would be me.

My fervent hope is we are still in 1st by next Sunday, when I get home.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 11, 2008 8:25 AM CDT   0 recs

Represent!

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2008 10:03 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

If want to hit Miller's Pub before the game, I'll pick up the tab...

Say around 3:30 or 4:00? Easy to jump on the El from there too.

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 11, 2008 10:07 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I want to go!! Bill Veeck section?

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Aug 11, 2008 10:19 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yes, but the crap is off the walls for "renovation". Bartender says 'back in a month'.

I’ll believe it when I see it.

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 11, 2008 10:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

"...another project you should see later this week."

Such the tease. I’m betting it’s a lovely Q-collage.

by palehose67 on Aug 11, 2008 8:33 AM CDT   0 recs

1. New slogan - "Treadmill to Nowhere" no longer accurate (since we're in first).

2. Starting a pool on who is the next Sox to change his facial/head hair (Shave? Dye? Grow?).

I can’t wait.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 11, 2008 9:00 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

My new slogan nomination

“The damage is quite severe”

I think it works on many levels.

Coffee is for closers.

by vince_ on Aug 11, 2008 9:28 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs