The remains of the season: Chicago White Sox -- The Hardball Times
Who wins the AL Central?
I think Baseball Prospectus' ELO-adjusted playoff odds report puts the White Sox postseason chances in the most accurate perspective. Elo rating was invented for use in chess, but Nate Silver has adopted them (for) baseball purposes. Because the ratings are derived from who you beat and when, they do a great job of capturing a teams hot and cold streaks, as well as approximating a team's true talent. The ELO-adjusted odds have the Sox as underdogs to the Twins (69 percent to 44 percent), which feels about right, especially given the Twins' recent addition of Francisco Liriano and subtraction of Livan Hernandez along with the uncertainty surrounding the Sox's pitching staff.
Prediction: The White Sox are on hand to watch the Twins clinch a division crown in the Metrodome the last week of September.
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That guy is a fucking moron
I can’t believe THT let him do that write up.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Aug 13, 2008 1:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just a stubborn fool
Clearly he just doesn’t want to back off of his preseason 82 win prediction.
(+1 for pennies in cargo pants though)
by Trooper on Aug 13, 2008 2:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a douche
Probably not even a Soxfan.
by Tony82087 on Aug 13, 2008 1:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i wonder, if we kill 'Christopher Michaels'; do the sox chances of winning go up?
"I know it's pretty baby, but I didn't take it out for air."
by explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit on Aug 13, 2008 2:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
way way up
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Aug 13, 2008 2:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
never trust anyone with 2 first names
sorry cheat!
"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11
term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 13, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was well done.
Better than the crap on this site.
I wish he was in my fantasy league. id bury that cocksucker- KenWo4Life
by Hawk is God on Aug 13, 2008 2:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
seriously though...
twins 2-1 favorites? I wish vegas would give me those odds.
by Trooper on Aug 13, 2008 2:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i could careless
they had the twins third and us 4th before everything this year, the twins really have no bullpen, and as good as gomez is in center tracking balls he and swisher think the cut off man wears knee pads and a mask, they have no DH and a left side of the infield that cant hit 25 homers and doubles if you combine them. Their RISP will hit about .280 and they’ll win 84 games, the sox will have this thing locked up with 6 days to go
by BestKosherPolish on Aug 13, 2008 3:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sox facing both Gio and Washburn in their next starts...
Gio Gonzalez allowed just one run in five innings to defeat the Rays on Tuesday night.
His first major league win came in his second attempt. Gonzalez struck out five, but he did issue four walks on the night. He was able to limit the damage, though, and lower his ERA to 4.09 after two starts. He’ll face the White Sox, his former team, in his next start.
Jarrod Wasburn allowed four runs – one earned – in seven innings as the Mariners lost to the Angels on Wednesday.
He was only charged with one earned run thanks to a Yuniesky Betancourt error, but he did give up two homers in the contest. Still, he struck out three and didn’t allow a single walk, and allowed just seven hits despite the costly error. He’ll face the White Sox in his next start, assuming he’s still a Mariner.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 7:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Uh no.
I like it. The White Sox are underdogs again. I mean they have very little chance of competing or going to the playoffs this year.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Aug 13, 2008 7:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
By the way
1 month ago the White Sox were 54-40 1.5 games up on the Twins and 7 up on Detroit and a ELO favorite.
Aug 13th they are 66-52 .5 game up on the Twins, 8.5 up on Detroit and a 69 to 44 underdog.
PECOTA still has them as a 60+ favorite and with the schedule and stat advantages its probably a lot closer to the truth.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Aug 13, 2008 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think the PECOTA odds are the less accurate than the ELO at this point in the season
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Aug 13, 2008 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball is not chess or Soccer
ELO may be fine if you need to pick the winner of the Sox vs the Twins next game. But you still have to project out. Extended road trips or home stands count. Expected extended production counts. ELO doesn’t do that as well.
You honestly think yesterday the Twins were a 69 to 44 fav?
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Aug 13, 2008 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
neither does pecota based on assumptions from april.
the atmosphere is just too much for me.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No it doesnt but there is still an expected production component
Even if it is not the most accurate right now (example Q rakes!)
Hell the actual stat predictor has the Sox as a 60+ favorite. I don’t think they are really that high, but the point is they should still be a fav at this point.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Aug 13, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
these things were amusing three months ago. they are still amusing. arguing over which is better is crossing quite far over into the nonproductive.
flip a coin between the teams.
the atmosphere is just too much for me.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol point taken and made.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Aug 13, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For accuracy
the updated odds are 60-51 today, with the wildcard making up the extra 11%
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Aug 13, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Cheat! Did you see the shoutout the Reader gave you?
http://blogs.chicagoreader.com/sports/2008/08/08/blogroll-southsidesoxcom/#comments
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I saw it
and the first two comments are worth reading too
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Aug 13, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As mentioned in the first game thread, U-God reminded me of Preacher...
One of the finest comics ever written/drawn. One of the more endearing characters was a lad who botched a suicide attempt (his father told him he should have put the gun in his mouth, not under his chin), and the resultant surgeries left him with the appropriate nickname of “Arseface”. Don’t know why I thought of him last night, but I did promise to post his pic today. Enjoy!
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 8:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ahh... Preacher...
Never has another story so artfully blended angels, demons, vampires, lunatic Southern grannies, religious cults, serial killers, wacko wholesale meat barons, the ghost of John Wayne, the FBI, aardvark fucking, and one man’s quest to find God and kick His ass.
What am I forgetting?
by ReservoirDog on Aug 13, 2008 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that's about it. I'm pretty sure I'd hide them from HSA, but maybe not...
which would explain a lot.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You also took me to see Pulp Fiction when I was 10.
(granted, I had a big prepatory speech before we saw it).
Sounds like a story I’d enjoy!
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Aug 13, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, you'd enjoy it. And that would sadden your Uncle WU.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awww, I miss that little hairy Italian man.
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Aug 13, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Btw, Arseface's suicide attempt was a reenactment of Cobain (his idol)
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do they have graphic novels?
Looks like something I would enjoy
by 815Sox on Aug 13, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes. see the thread on the right rail.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suicide Fial
Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN
by gafferland on Aug 13, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Twins claim lefty Alan Embree off waivers; A's pull him back...
According to the San Francisco Chronicle, the A’s pulled Alan Embree back after he was claimed off waivers by the Twins.
Oddly, the Twins let Chad Bradford get past them on waivers, but claimed the 38-year-old Embree and his 5.40 ERA.Source: San Francisco Chronicle
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 8:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm not sure why "oddly" was included in that. do the people who write these follow baseball?
the atmosphere is just too much for me.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it was. This is the entire blurb from the clickthrough:
Briefly: According to a major-league source, Minnesota claimed left-hander Alan Embree on waivers, but the A’s pulled him off the waiver wire.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're saying ssh edited a rotoworld post? ssh it many things. but i don't think he's that.
the atmosphere is just too much for me.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn't say that, but either it was deleted from the original after SSH posted, or...
you never know.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's a rotoworld quote. you know, #3 on the list of varieties of ssh posts? the format is pretty obvious.
the atmosphere is just too much for me.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah. the only link provided was to the source, hence my confusion.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here it is...
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=1788
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i understand now.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rotoworld must not realize that the last thing in the world that the Twins want...
is a $3.5 million dollar reliever for 2009.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and a ROOGY, to boot.
the atmosphere is just too much for me.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldnt be around yesterday afternoon
How did you take the BoSox acquiring Bryd SSH?
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Aug 13, 2008 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gasoline meet flame.
the atmosphere is just too much for me.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still would rather have Washburn.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a misleading snippet that Cheat posted
There is much more cogent analysis at the THBT.
The last starts from Floyd, Danks, MB and Javier have been very encouraging. When 3 out of the 4 have arguably their best stuff of the season and dominate with lots of strikeouts and pinpoint command and control, it’s hard to not get excited for what could be going forward.
That said, the news on Liney is very encouraging. Hopefully he can be back and effective within two weeks.
I’ve wrote off Crede for the rest of the season, Uribe has been playing very well though, and perhaps he can go on one of his little Uribe like runs where he posts a 250/300/500 line a month or so. His defense has been excellent.
I’m excited for the last 40 games, even if the Sox don’t pull it off it’s a hell of a good season with the emergence of so much young talent, and it gives hope for the future that really wasn’t there prior to this year.
by madvillian on Aug 13, 2008 8:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
so you're saying cheat posted a misleading snippet of his own article?
somehow i think he posted exactly what he thought was the salient part.
the atmosphere is just too much for me.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some ellipses would have helped greatly.
by madvillian on Aug 13, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm not quite sure how.
the atmosphere is just too much for me.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
someone hasn't had their coffee this morning...
"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11
term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 13, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Christopher Michaels ≠ The Cheat
Sure they’re contained within the same person, but that doesn’t mean anything.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Aug 13, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11
term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 13, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
starring Christian Slater
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Aug 13, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was either this or the 2 paragraphs on Poreda
I got the reaction I was looking for ;)
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Aug 13, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm sure this was posted on the gamethread or something.
but for those who don’t read those:
Guillen said after Tuesday’s 9-0 shellacking of the Royals that Quentin will be out of action once again on Wednesday night.“Quentin is OK,” Guillen said. “I’m going to give him one more day to make sure he’s fine.”
the atmosphere is just too much for me.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 9:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
clearly, he has been the problem with this offense all year.
we should sit him for the rest of the season…
"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11
term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 13, 2008 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one who likes the OBP addition and everything
But thinks Q should actually MOVE sometimes????
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Aug 13, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit, I get no Q in person this eve?
No respect. Fer Chrissakes.
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Aug 13, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sucks to be you, ravioli tosser!
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on Aug 13, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My cousin is driving me to the game
after I meet a buddy for drinks in about 90 minutes. Diamond box, free drinks, and a chauffeur, and I am one lit Dago mix tonight.
And, HSA, I have a full head of hair but none on my back. So there.
Enjoy the the game tonight, gents and ladies. I will.
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Aug 13, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who's ass did you kiss last night?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Aug 13, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you are meeting my dad for drinks at Miller's Pub to give him my Chelexei shirt.
If not, you can ship it directly to Seattle.
Bring home a winner! Please!
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Aug 13, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just got Goose Gossage's autograph
and a picture with him at our conference! He looks effin’ great. He signed my ticket for tonight’s game. He also said he didn’t choose his hat for Cooperstown (I expressed disappointment he didn’t go in a white Sox). So I love him even more now.
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Aug 13, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very Cool
Sounds like he even gave you a litte “goose” when you walked away.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Aug 13, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, forgot the clearly again.
but for you, I feel like I don’t need it anyways.
I hope you make a drunken ass of yourself, with colintj’s bourbon experiment as your guide. Fare thee well, Dago, fare thee well.
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on Aug 13, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think a lot hinges on Linebrink coming back fully effective
If the Sox can hold the fort and Linebrink comes back the way he was early in the year, I think the bullpen will stabilize and we have a shot.
Contreras going down really hurt us.
Coffee is for closers.
by vince_ on Aug 13, 2008 9:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It did
Its funny because we were all ripping on him before… you don’t know what you’ve got till its gone I guess
by 815Sox on Aug 13, 2008 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It hurts more because he was looking really good on Saturday.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 13, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Tigers season is over already but...
The Detroit Free Press reports that Joel Zumaya’s loss Tuesday night “evidently will be his last appearance for a while” because of “ailments in his upper pitching arm.”
Zumaya allowed two hits and handed out three walks without getting an out Tuesday, and according to manager Jim Leyland he had a medical exam after the game. “I can assure you, I’m not going to have Zumaya for a while, even if everything checks out all right,” Leyland said. “All I know is there is a problem. Joel is not himself. I can see it in his face. I can see it in his demeanor. Right now, I don’t feel comfortable pitching Joel. I’m not talking about because of results. I’m talking about because something is not right. It’s going to be next year until he gets back to 100 percent.”Source: Detroit Free Press
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 9:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
they rushed both of those guys back. perhaps understandable considering their bullpen woes at the time. but the consequences may be dire.
the atmosphere is just too much for me.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, how big of a failure was that Sheffield trade?
It seemed like it was going to be similar to the Thome trade at first. Acquire a big bat to DH for your team and keep the old guy healthy since he won’t be playing the field.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thome sucks
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Aug 13, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, but he is probably on the decline...
He is a few days away from 38, afterall.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
looks to me like Thome's bat will play until his body breaks
two of his top comps before those got all fouled up on BP were Willie Stargell and Willie McCovey. i believe it was the latter that it really looked to me like Thome was following.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Aug 13, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, the failure was extending him.
the atmosphere is just too much for me.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch...
2008: $14 million
2009: $14 million
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Konerko?
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Aug 13, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kornerko is young enough to turn it around for the next two seasons...
Sheffield is not.
This season is eerily similar to Kornerko’s 2003 season.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, konerko is usually less of an injury risk and can still field
by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 13, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
notwithstanding gordon's triple last night, i guess.
the atmosphere is just too much for me.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kornerko = 2010 White Sox DH...
and then, he gawn.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least Thome doesn't play the race card with Ozzie
And demand to play in the field.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 13, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chess, eh?
My obtuse system of statistical analysis was first developed by NASA to determine the amount of Tang each astronaut required on the surface of the moon but I adopted it for baseball purposes.
Use your gut. Tigers FTW!
Property of: PAUL KONERKO Track and Field Academy & Steakhouse
by thecip on Aug 13, 2008 9:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
FTW?
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Despite all sense...
...I still feel the tigers are gonna take this division. Its what I thought at the beginning of the season and what I think now. Nothing, even their record or seeing them play during the season, changes my mind.
Property of: PAUL KONERKO Track and Field Academy & Steakhouse
by thecip on Aug 13, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
javier "frustration" vazquez
Here are his ERA and FIP marks since 2000:2000: 4.05 ERA/3.67 FIP
2001: 3.42 ERA/3.21 FIP
2002: 3.91 ERA/3.68 FIP
2003: 3.24 ERA/3.31 FIP
2004: 4.91 ERA/4.78 FIP
2005: 4.42 ERA/4.06 FIP
2006: 4.84 ERA/3.86 FIP
2007: 3.74 ERA/3.80 FIP
2008: 4.74 ERA/4.02 FIPNotice anything? Perhaps that his FIP is just about always better than his ERA? Based on his controllable skills, Vazquez is a very, very good pitcher, but for whatever reason this does not always come to fruition in his ERA. Granted, ERA is not the best metric to gauge pitcher performance, but when a guy consistently posts lower FIPs you have to wonder what exactly is going on.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/javier-frustration-vazquez/
the atmosphere is just too much for me.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 10:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
For the uninitiated (including myself):
Fielding Independent Pitching, a measure of all those things for which a pitcher is specifically responsible. The formula is (HR13+(BB+HBP-IBB)3-K*2)/IP, plus a league-specific factor (usually around 3.2) to round out the number to an equivalent ERA number. FIP helps you understand how well a pitcher pitched, regardless of how well his fielders fielded. FIP was invented by Tangotiger.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing that immediately comes to mind is
The timing of his fuck-ups. Strictly an unsustantiated observation, but it seems to me that sometimes he’ll K a guy one batter too late (say after giving up a run-scoring double). In other words, his skills are great at closing barn doors… after the horse has left.
Queue the horse pic.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
other comps
for javy, do other pitchers also have the propensity to have poorer numbers in the 6th inning (relative to the 5th and 7th innnings)
by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 13, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
jake peavy.
paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's also this split for 'leverage'
not sure how that’s characterized but his high leverage stats appear to be poorer than medium and low leverage situations.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 13, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know...
what people are complaining about. That seems like a pretty even-handed, in-depth look at the team.
Ignore the prediction of who’s going to win the division. Was there anything in his analysis that was off-base?
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Aug 13, 2008 10:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i think its a good analysis
and a prediction is merely a prediction
it has been a great season so far that has more than exceeded everyone’s expectations
by The Scoper on Aug 13, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who is complaining about the analysis?
Without joking about Cheat sucking?
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Aug 13, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very even-handed, can't find a nit to pick.
Nice job, Cheat.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure we're just messing with Cheat
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Aug 13, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say...who the hell cares what The Electric Light Orchestra thinks?
"We were the never-say-die White Sox tonight." - Nick Swisher (8/5/08)
by tailgater on Aug 13, 2008 10:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tampa Bay angle
I am surprised we haven’t pointed to them more. Besides the bet I lost to Larry things might get seriously crazy with Longoria’s injury after Crawford. 3rd base was a mess for them before and he is of course their best offensive palyer.
The Sox/Twins now trail the Bosox for wild card by 1.5/2 and Tampa by 5.
Here is where things get interesting. Assuming a bit of sliding takes place. The Rays schedule is brutal short term as they next visit Texas for 3, have the Angels at home and travel back to the south side.
Early Sept finds a 9 game trip to Toronto, Boston and New York.
Tampa is a wonderful story but I have a feeling they will find themselves clumped in, if Longoria is truly gone for an extended time.
It has sort have been assumed the wild card comes from the east. That remains to be seen.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Aug 13, 2008 10:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
More
After that 9 game Sept trip. They come home (where they have been very good) for 7 vs the Boston & Minnesota (great for the Sox somebody loses) and then close out the season with 8 on the road.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Aug 13, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT - Junior
On last night’s broadcast, DJ reported that “season ticket sales have surged” due to the acquisition of Junior.
Sounds like a Brookes Boyer-induced comment.
"We were the never-say-die White Sox tonight." - Nick Swisher (8/5/08)
by tailgater on Aug 13, 2008 10:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Griffey = more money, less wins.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why their advertising plenty of walk-up seats available for this series.
Oh well.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would rank this article...
...right up there with the Holocaust as perhaps the worst atrocity of the past 100 years. Sure, millions of Jews, Poles and Gypsies died—but the Twins as a 2:1 favorite? COME ON!!!!!
Nice job, Hitler.
by BridgeportJoe on Aug 13, 2008 11:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Beckham Update (Sorta)
MLB.com reports:
8. SS Gordon Beckham, Chicago White Sox
Talks between the two sides are ongoing, and no one has indicated that Beckham won’t sign. It’s a bit of a gamble on Beckham’s part, but it appears he’s waiting as long as possible and learning what the market will bear before grabbing what he can from the Sox
Don’t f*ck this one up Kenny.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Aug 13, 2008 11:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Last I heard (Monday?), 7 of the top 10 picks were playing the waiting game.
So it isn’t only Kenny.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On ESPN, Buster Olney is reporting that Jarrod Washburn has been claimed off waivers by some unnamed team...
Olney said that we will find out which team claimed him later today. He mentioned the Yankees and the White Sox as possibilities.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 11:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My guess is that it is the Yankees who claimed Washburn...
but it would be nice if it was the Sox and Kenny could work out a deal for him.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but if couldn't work out a deal
its because kenny’s a shitty gm, right?
by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 13, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We don't even know which team claimed Washburn yet...
The Yankees had waiver priority over the White Sox since they have a worse record so Kenny may not have even had the chance.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And in that case, Kenny wouldn't be at fault.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but if he made it to the sox and a deal can't get done,
it’ll be right back to the kenny sucks because he didn’t have anybody of value other than fields or poreda to get even a shitty marginal player like washburn, right?
"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"
by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it depends on the level of meds.
seems to be a happy balance today.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Assuming Kenny successfully wins the claim...
and a story comes out that Kenny couldn’t get a deal done with the Mariners because they wanted Poreda, I won’t have a problem with it. If Kenny successfully wins the claim and can’t get a deal done because he refused to give up any other prospect(s) not named Poreda or Fields, I will be pissed. Poreda and Fields are probably the only guys who should be untradeable. I doubt we have to worry about Fields since he wouldn’t clear waivers. Poreda is not on the 40-man roster so he would not have to clear waivers to be traded.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough.
"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"
by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can always use the clever PTBNL to get around that pesky rule about players on the 40 man.
paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is true.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ssh...macdougal is an untouchable even though he's not a prospect...
we can’t get rid of him!!!!!!!!! don’t be mad if kenny doesn’t give him up
i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry
by furby2056 on Aug 13, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what are you willing to give up?
"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"
by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm willing to give up my virginity, now that you ask
by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 13, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
save it for a guy who has a playoff guarantee stapled to his ass...
"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"
by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Certainly not Poreda
They can go to hell with that
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Aug 13, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A guy like Shelby and another non-roster pitching prospect not named Poreda.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Basically, anyone but Fields and Poreda...
Fields wouldn’t clear waivers anyways.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...you're saying no to Poreda?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Aug 13, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I wouldn't give up Poreda...
The Mariners should be happy enough with dumping Washburn’s salary and picking up a couple average prospects.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know
I was just joking. You’ve said it like 4 times.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Aug 13, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was surprised to find out he liked Washburn
I CAN'T STAND IT.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Aug 13, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, if we lost to Washburn...
It’d be an endless stream of negativity.
by Craig Grebeck on Aug 13, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you should read my previous comments above, Little Hurt.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I meant was...
If the team lost a game to Washburn, i.e. a baseball game (nine innings and such), we’d be a shit offense.
by Craig Grebeck on Aug 13, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Washburn is pitching very well lately...
It wouldn’t be a total shock for the Sox to lose to him. They seem to struggle against him. He’s a lefty, go figure.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HUH?
Sox are 23-14 against lefties this year.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Aug 13, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess their offensive numbers against lefties have improved.
I thought it was a lot worse earlier in the season.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BP Matchup
Matchup: Royals (54-65) at White Sox (66-52), 7:11 p.m. CT
Probable Starters: Luke Hochevar (117 IP, 5.92 RA, 1.50 WHIP, 64 K) vs. Mark Buehrle (112, 4.58, 1.32, 92)
Pythagorean Record: Kansas City, 51-68 (496 RS, 585 RA); Chicago, 66-52 (594 RS, 524 RA)
Hit List Rankings: Kansas City, #24; Chicago, #5
Prospectus: After playing 48 straight games in left field, MVP candidate Carlos Quentin was scratched from the lineup yesterday due to general soreness, perhaps the result of getting hit by a pitch in five consecutive games. Quentin was hit by the Tigers’ Zach Miner last Thursday, and then in all four games of the Red Sox series, by Jon Lester, Daisuke Matsuzaka, David Aardsma, and Josh Beckett. That streak of new bruises is the longest in the play-by-play era, going back to 1956. Five players shared the record at four straight games before this season—accomplished by F.P. Santangelo in 1997, Don Baylor in ‘76, Richie Hebner in ‘75, Ron Hunt in ‘68, and Joe Cunningham in ‘61. Quentin also had a three-game streak in late April, and has now been plunked 19 times on the season, almost as many times as the entire Twins team (22), and three more than both Jason Giambi and Chase Utley who are tied for second behind his major league-leading 19. He is also just four off the franchise single-season record for HBP set by Minnie Minoso in 1956. Quentin sets up in an open-stance crouch extremely close to the plate, and as mentioned back in May has always been adept at taking one for the team, even going back to his college days: Quentin was hit 48 times in 199 games during his three-year career at Stanford, including a school record-tying 19 in 2002. In 2004, his first year in the minors, Quentin was hit by a remarkable 43 pitches in just 125 games between High-A Lancaster and Double-A El Paso, a total that would rank fifth all-time in a major league season, behind the 50 HBP Ron Hunt endured in 1971 and three seasons of 46 or more from Hughie Jennings, who played for the 19th-century Orioles. Quentin led the Pacific Coast League in HBPs each of the next two seasons before graduating to Arizona, where he continued to draw fire at a prodigious rate.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Aug 13, 2008 11:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is larry no longer posting this?
Are he and Wiz joined in a solidarity strike? I’ve been out of the loop, so I haven’t been playing along.
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Aug 13, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think
Larry is on strike (this week).
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Aug 13, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"MVP candidate Carlos Quentin was scratched from the lineup yesterday due to *general soreness* ..."
DAMN YOU, GRIFFEY, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO Q?!!
by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 13, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
General Soreness to you.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank god he's a Man of Steel
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 12:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It is a sad day when Jim Edmonds is more productive than Griffey.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 1:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it's amazing how well he's played for the cubs.
i don’t expect much out of griffey at all, but i also don’t expect edmonds to keep his current level of play up, and that’s if he can stay healthy.
"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"
by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edmonds 08 = Gaetti 98
The situation reminds of the Cubs playoff run in 98, when a washed up Gaetti posted a .991 OPS for the Cubs after the Cards released him.
Sadly, Griffey seems to be falling into the Sox pattern of getting formerly great players at the end
of their careers who cotinue to play like it should be the end of their career, like both Alomars, George Foster, Steve Carlton etc. etc.
by vaughan3 on Aug 13, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope there's a trade for Jamie Moyer next year just to bump the average roster age up
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 13, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yankees defense = suck.
"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"
by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, should have been a two run homer.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Girardi is a moron...
He throws a righty reliever (Dan Giese) against three straight lefties ( Mauer, Morneau, and Kubel ).
Mauer: single
Morneau: walk
Kubel: walk
No outs.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
let's see.
go with the guy who lefties were posting an OPS of .568 against or go with the guy who, while achieving the vaunted lefthandedness ssh just loves to throw out without actually investigating efficacy, has sucked since he came to the yankees, including an excellent performance last night. close call. yankees suck.
paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also just noticed that Marte has been getting hammered under the big city lights.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's the atmosphere
of which the lights are included.
paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mr. Clutch will bail them out.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he did last night
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on Aug 13, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And then he bailed this guy out.
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Aug 13, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BALLED him out, not bailed.
"i'm gonna beat you. and then my son chris is gonna beat you. it's gonna be an old fashioned father-son beat off!"
by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah yes, you are correct.
But he had to bail him out of jail first….
A-Rod knows where to get the good stuff….and it don’t come cheap!
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Aug 13, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zumaya to the D.L.
Tigers placed RHP Joel Zumaya on the 15-day disabled list with a sore right shoulder.
Manager Jim Leyland made it very clear Tuesday that he’s not counting on Zumaya contributing again until next season, so the Tigers may decide to simply shut him down for good with Todd Jones scheduled to come off the disabled list Friday. Fernando Rodney is the favorite for saves right now, but Jones could easily get back into the mix. Zumaya has a 3.47 ERA and 22/22 K/BB ratio in 23 1/3 innings and has thrown a total of just 57 innings since the start of last season.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i thought he got a sore neck
watching Swisher’s walk-off bomb.
Although it could be lingering Guitar Hero soreness…
I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator
by Nordhagen on Aug 13, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Aug 13, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"LET'S GO YANKEES!!!"
Top of the 8th inning…
Ivan Rodriguez with a leadoff single.
Wilson Betemit with another single.
Runners at 1B and 2B.
Melky Cabrera up with no outs…
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 2:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Richie Sexson pinch-hitting for Melky...
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i've been waiting over seventeen minutes for the update...
long AB.
paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry...
Yankees scored a run on a dropped third strike to Abreu but then A-Rod flied out to CF to end the inning. Last chance for the Yankees against Joe Nathan in the 9th. It is 4-2 Twins.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm usually kidding but today i appreciate. mid august means scoreboard watching.
paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giambi with a leadoff strikeout against Nathan...
Garbage.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Xavier Nady grounds out. 2 outs.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robinson Cano walks...
Ivan Rodriguez up…
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pudge with a chance to tie. Can he hit HRs?
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
indeed.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And it's all even, pending tonight's game.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't bother watching. This season is over.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whaaa?
Just stating a fact. Calm down, old man.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nope. today's Yankees fial sealed the deal for the Twins.
you think I’m kidding.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"i'm gonna beat you. and then my son chris is gonna beat you. it's gonna be an old fashioned father-son beat off!"
by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manchester United fans
eat dog turds
regards
Sox fan from England, marching on together
by hoodlight on Aug 13, 2008 2:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hmmm
we already have a monsignor non sequitur; perhaps you can be primate non sequitur? or perhaps just peoria non sequitur?
paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you really going to give him shit for being on the money?
pretty effed man.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Aug 13, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
however you like
but I’m sure you sleep well at night supporting the EPL partners of the New York Yankees.
regards
Sox fan from England, marching on together
by hoodlight on Aug 13, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess you would like to brush
this kind of thing under the carpet? eh larry
Sox fan from England, marching on together
by hoodlight on Aug 13, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i got his book autographed
waiting until he dies to ebay that.
I wish he was in my fantasy league. id bury that cocksucker- KenWo4Life
by Hawk is God on Aug 13, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's a bit morbid
oh well
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Aug 13, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cats sleep 16 to 18 hours per day.
paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 2:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
people who wear hats in a non-sporting context are worse than
Katy Perry
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Aug 13, 2008 2:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My favorite proper noun
is Reykjavik
by Off the bus running on Aug 13, 2008 3:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
trader joe's
frosted mini wheats are the bomb
by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 13, 2008 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
On Huffington Post today ...
...nice picture of Obama in Hawaii wearing a W. Sox cap . If I knew how to grab and paste here, I would,
by RoyEgan on Aug 13, 2008 3:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sox fan from England, marching on together
by hoodlight on Aug 13, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nothing rhymes with orange
"I know it's pretty baby, but I didn't take it out for air."
by explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit on Aug 13, 2008 3:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Chlorange.
I CAN'T STAND IT.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Aug 13, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like my chlorange mixed with grey goose vodka and served over ice.
You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.
by MarketMaker on Aug 13, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball is won on the field, not on a computer.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 13, 2008 3:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Have I stumbled into a game thread?
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 3:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
To my neighbor who I saw pooping in his yard yesterday
I saw you couched down with your pants around your ankles. I asked “Hey, what are you doing?”. Your reply was “Pooping in a groundhog hole! I read about it online. It’s suppose to trick the groundhog into thinking another animal has moved into it’s lair.”.
Since you are normally a sane person I refrained from calling the police.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Aug 13, 2008 3:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
your neighbour shites in his backyard?
well I guess it takes all sorts
Sox fan from England, marching on together
by hoodlight on Aug 13, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he doesn't live in yorkshire
by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 13, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the wit is white hot in here tonight
Sox fan from England, marching on together
by hoodlight on Aug 13, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WEST Yorkshire
it’s West Yorkshire, the heartland, we were building roads, canals civic centres etc, before you lot had even started burning down wigwams.
regards
Sox fan from England, marching on together
by hoodlight on Aug 13, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a pair of wigwams!
Man are they toasty on my feets! Didn’t know it was an international brand…
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Aug 13, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bet those stink when you burn them down.
"i'm gonna beat you. and then my son chris is gonna beat you. it's gonna be an old fashioned father-son beat off!"
by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way to match tenses, MENSA boy
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on Aug 13, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
burn them down was a direct take from hoodlight's previous post.
way to show off ssh-like reading comprehension, MENSA girl.
"i'm gonna beat you. and then my son chris is gonna beat you. it's gonna be an old fashioned father-son beat off!"
by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Started burning down wigwams, I believe was the quote
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on Aug 13, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and her socks are wigwams.
"i'm gonna beat you. and then my son chris is gonna beat you. it's gonna be an old fashioned father-son beat off!"
by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed, she even posted a picture of them
My favorite part is that they are embroidered.
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on Aug 13, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
go back to your hot dogs and hamburgers, you obese Yanker.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do that in White Castle.
I CAN'T STAND IT.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Aug 13, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guy walks into a bar with a pile of shit in his hand.
Says to the bartender “look what I almost stepped in”.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok...
Guy walks into a bar with a pile of shit in his hand. Says to the bartender "look what I almost stepped in".
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Execution: 9.9. Degree of Difficulty: 1.2
by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 13, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
keepin' it simple for the kids
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
someone reads "best of" CL
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Aug 13, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CL?
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude, like you are so 'old'
craigslist
by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 13, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh. i thought it was some tv show like SNL but on cable.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just bought a record player for $20 off of CL this weekend
bought some vinyl for starters: kinks, the blasters, ali farka toure, and mingus…
by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 13, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My favorite....
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Aug 13, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lolz, thats awesome.
"You know, if you stab a man in the dead of winter, steam will rise up from the wounds. Indians believed it was his soul escaping from his body." - Mikita's Manager, Glen
by omnipotent grab on Aug 13, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, it was worth going through hundreds of old best-ofs to find it again.
"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM
by homesickalien on Aug 13, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
awesome.
i was thinking about making a follow-up joke, but this seems better left alone.
You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.
by MarketMaker on Aug 13, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They still crack me up....
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Aug 13, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"
by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 3:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
From today's BP Chat w. Kevin Goldstein (emphasis supplied)
Hombre X (Parts unknown): Which as-yet unsigned first-round picks are most likely to NOT sign? If they don’t, then what happens?
Kevin Goldstein: The best bet is that Allan Dykstra doesn’t sign—that one doesn’t seem to be going anywhere. If he doesn’t sign, the Padres get pick “23b” next year, so one pick after 23, which makes that 24 . . . unless somebody else doesn’t sign, thus the strange nomenclature. I think everyone else will sign, but if I had to bet on any other pick NOT signing, it’d be Aaron Crow.
by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 13, 2008 3:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Someone on the score...
just mentioned in passing that Beckham signed.
Take that for what it’s worth, of course.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Aug 13, 2008 3:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
in passing?
"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"
by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they're dead now.
probably one of those homers who reads WSI for the rumors.
paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, in passing.
I’m paraphrasing here -
News announcer guy – By the way, the White Sox just signed Gordon Beckham.
Boers and Bernstein – That’s good news. Anyway…
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Aug 13, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no issue with your reporting. more surprised with the apparent lack of import attached to the "announcement." shouldn't be surprised, i guess.
"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"
by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm gonna go with "new announcer guy doesn't know what he's talking about"
paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or not.
First-round pick Gordon Beckham signs and will take BP today. 4 minutes ago
paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Signed for 2.6 million per Soxtalk.
"You know, if you stab a man in the dead of winter, steam will rise up from the wounds. Indians believed it was his soul escaping from his body." - Mikita's Manager, Glen
by omnipotent grab on Aug 13, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nicely done.
"You know, if you stab a man in the dead of winter, steam will rise up from the wounds. Indians believed it was his soul escaping from his body." - Mikita's Manager, Glen
by omnipotent grab on Aug 13, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and even more cowley fun: broadway starts thursday
Lance Broadway has been told he will start in Contreras’ spot in rotation Thursday vs. Royals. 5 minutes ago
paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 3:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
fucking ridiculous
7.27 ERA in his last 10 AAA starts, giving up 76 hits in 52 innings
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Aug 13, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but he beat the royals last september.
play the matchups, cheat.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=28676
paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So it's Davies vs. Broadway.
Last night’s game in Fenway is gonna look like a pitcher’s duel.
/Sox will probably get shut out.
by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 13, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling a lot more people will be hopping aboard the Washburn bandwagon...
Broadway? Brutal.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe that should be the tag line for games featuring the 5th starter's spot from here on out
"i'm gonna beat you. and then my son chris is gonna beat you. it's gonna be an old fashioned father-son beat off!"
by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too much metal for one hand.
"You know, if you stab a man in the dead of winter, steam will rise up from the wounds. Indians believed it was his soul escaping from his body." - Mikita's Manager, Glen
by omnipotent grab on Aug 13, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, and while making the brutal sign colin would be forced to drink his bourbon out of one of those beer helmets
"i'm gonna beat you. and then my son chris is gonna beat you. it's gonna be an old fashioned father-son beat off!"
by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yankees did not claim washburn according to rosenthal
i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry
by furby2056 on Aug 13, 2008 3:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It might not be the White Sox but it should be...
The White Sox, another team in need of starting pitching, have indicated that they do not consider Washburn a fit.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Score also reports...
that Griffey is back in the game tonight, batting sixth.
Chris Getz to get his first career start.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Aug 13, 2008 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And...
Yes, Griffey will be attempting to patrol center field.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Aug 13, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Broadway starting Thursday.
"You know, if you stab a man in the dead of winter, steam will rise up from the wounds. Indians believed it was his soul escaping from his body." - Mikita's Manager, Glen
by omnipotent grab on Aug 13, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didnt read larrys post, my bad.
"You know, if you stab a man in the dead of winter, steam will rise up from the wounds. Indians believed it was his soul escaping from his body." - Mikita's Manager, Glen
by omnipotent grab on Aug 13, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can't scoop larry, even with your omnimpotence.
"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"
by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice spelling, WU is pleased.
"You know, if you stab a man in the dead of winter, steam will rise up from the wounds. Indians believed it was his soul escaping from his body." - Mikita's Manager, Glen
by omnipotent grab on Aug 13, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the difference is my "misspelling" was intentional.
"anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?"
by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure it was. ;-)
"You know, if you stab a man in the dead of winter, steam will rise up from the wounds. Indians believed it was his soul escaping from his body." - Mikita's Manager, Glen
by omnipotent grab on Aug 13, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
way to totally ruin a joke.
paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well if that isn't the pot calling the kettle a cat
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on Aug 13, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"You know, if you stab a man in the dead of winter, steam will rise up from the wounds. Indians believed it was his soul escaping from his body." - Mikita's Manager, Glen
by omnipotent grab on Aug 13, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"i'm gonna beat you. and then my son chris is gonna beat you. it's gonna be an old fashioned father-son beat off!"
by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well done.
"You know, if you stab a man in the dead of winter, steam will rise up from the wounds. Indians believed it was his soul escaping from his body." - Mikita's Manager, Glen
by omnipotent grab on Aug 13, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He called you a cat, dumbass
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on Aug 13, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he called the grabber a cat, twinkletoes.
"i'm gonna beat you. and then my son chris is gonna beat you. it's gonna be an old fashioned father-son beat off!"
by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well if that isn’t the pot calling the kettle a catthis isn’t hard. you live in a port city. and you’re a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on Aug 13, 2008 4:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply
"You know, if you stab a man in the dead of winter, steam will rise up from the wounds. Indians believed it was his soul escaping from his body." - Mikita's Manager, Glen
by omnipotent grab on Aug 13, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, larry already mentioned that.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Aug 13, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I already corrected myself first so I win.
"You know, if you stab a man in the dead of winter, steam will rise up from the wounds. Indians believed it was his soul escaping from his body." - Mikita's Manager, Glen
by omnipotent grab on Aug 13, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hate you all so much.
You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.
by MarketMaker on Aug 13, 2008 4:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Got sand in your vagina?
"You know, if you stab a man in the dead of winter, steam will rise up from the wounds. Indians believed it was his soul escaping from his body." - Mikita's Manager, Glen
by omnipotent grab on Aug 13, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Official Press Release...
“White Sox ink first-round pick Beckham
Georgia shortstop signs days before Draft’s signing deadline”
CHICAGO—The White Sox have agreed to terms with shortstop Gordon Beckham, the club’s first selection in this year’s First-Year Player Draft.Details about the size of the bonus and contract are as yet unavailable.
The White Sox were concerned about waiting until the last minute with Beckham, because each day he remained unsigned was a wasted day that he could have otherwise put toward his development.
Beckham, an All-America shortstop, was taken eighth overall by the White Sox. He batted .411 with 28 home runs in his junior season at Georgia.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 4:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that's not an official press release.
paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.
by larry on Aug 13, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From my contact at the White Sox, err my ticket "representative".
The Chicago White Sox vs. Detroit Tigers game on Saturday, September 13th at
U.S. Cellular Field has been scheduled for 2:55 p.m. The game was originally
listed on our schedule as TBD. The game will air nationally as the FOX Game of
the Week and will be broadcast locally on WSCR SportsRadio 670 AM. The gates to
the ballpark will open at 1:25 p.m.Also, as a result of FOX picking up this game, they can not broadcast any of our
remaining home games this season. Therefore, please note the following start
times for Saturday games originally listed as TBD on our schedule:Sept. 6 vs. Anaheim – 6:05 p.m. CST (WGN)
Sept. 27 vs. Cleveland – 6:05 p.m. CST (WGN)
PLEASE NOTE: We are still awaiting the game times for the Sunday games in
September and will send along an update as soon as we know more information.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Aug 13, 2008 4:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
also, in case anyone doesn't know, the saturday sox-a's game time has been changed as well to accommodate fox's airing.
"i'm gonna beat you. and then my son chris is gonna beat you. it's gonna be an old fashioned father-son beat off!"
by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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