Beckham Signs, Broadway Starts

by The Cheat on Aug 13, 2008 4:29 PM CDT Comment 93 comments

Joe Cowley twitters a pair of minor notes. First, the Sox have signed their first round pick, Gordon Beckham for a rumored $2.4MM. He'll take BP tonight at USCF.

Second, and of greater concern to the Sox playoff hopes, Lance Broadway has apparently parlayed 10 improbably strong innings last season into a starting gig despite a terrible performance in AAA this season. Broadway has been comically hittable this season in Charlotte, allowing an average of 10.4 H/9.

As if that wasn't bad enough, it gets worse; or rather Broadway has gotten worse as the season has grown. Since May 1st, that hit rate has risen to an astonishing 12.0 H/9, leading to an ERA of 5.89 and an RA of 6.68. Worse yet, in his last ten starts, he owns an ERA of 7.27 with a hit rate of 13.2 H/9. To say that those numbers are not indicative of a pitcher who is likely to succeed at the major league level is a massive understatement.

Here's hoping this is a reverse-jinx and not a future I-Told-Ya-So post

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If that's true, we deserve to lose the division

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 13, 2008 4:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Regarding having Broadway starting games

not the Beckhams signing, mind you.

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 13, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll add that if the Sox keep trotting General Soreness out there to CF, they also deserve to lose the division

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 13, 2008 4:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.

by larry on Aug 13, 2008 4:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Sucker!

I actually beat you to the punch, for once.

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 13, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

on what

paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.

by larry on Aug 13, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

do you think we deserve to lose the division larry?

by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 13, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i'm not sure i'm in a position to judge who deserves what.

paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.

by larry on Aug 13, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i don't think anybody is frankly

except for SSH

by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 13, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Doesn't your adviser tell you what to think?

sorry, some grad school humor here.

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 13, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"i'm gonna beat you. and then my son chris is gonna beat you. it's gonna be an old fashioned father-son beat off!"

by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm funnier than you

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 13, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

um no...

do you read phd comics?

by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 13, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

piled high and deeper?

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 13, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yep

by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 13, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

good stuff

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 13, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

When you make Lance Broadway your fifth starter...

with the Twins tied for first place and only 44 games left with better starting pitching options out there, it may not be a matter of deserving to lose.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Deserve's got nothing to do with it.

- William Munny

by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 13, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Deserve's got nothing to do with it

- Snoop

by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 13, 2008 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I posted on a new thread before you did

clearly, it’s these small victories that keep me going sometimes

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 13, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh. i didn't realize people raced to do such things.

paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.

by larry on Aug 13, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The more you know

I thought the clearly gave it away, but here’s a pic anyways!

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 13, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i got that part. i was referring to your original post.

paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.

by larry on Aug 13, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Meaning you didn't know people "raced to conclusions"?

How’s that for funny, huh Toonderjackass?

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 13, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You know.....maybe SSH should be GM

My pick to click is so Billy Butler on Thursday.

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 13, 2008 4:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i was on the motherfucker yesterday

but quickly realized that SSH is too radical to a White Sox GM

by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 13, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Too radical to be a White Sox GM, or appears to be too radical to a White Sox GM?

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 13, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am thinking JRE is actually Kenny Williams...

He seems to think that Broadway can easily replace Washburn’s production as the fifth starter for the rest of the season.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"i'm gonna beat you. and then my son chris is gonna beat you. it's gonna be an old fashioned father-son beat off!"

by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have never said anything about Lance Broadway.

I am not a fan.

Nor do I have a crush on Ken Griffey, or Carl Everett, or the Alomar brothers.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Aug 13, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

to 'be' a White Sox GM, he's ahead of his time

by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 13, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

to 'be' a White Sox GM, he's ahead of his time

by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 13, 2008 4:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

injuries starting to pile up

ray’s crawfor and bosox’ lowell

by The Scoper on Aug 13, 2008 4:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

maybe the rays will snag ibanez

by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 13, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not a huge deal for the Red Sox...

Youkilis plays third, Sean Casey plays first. The way Lowell has been playing lately, they won’t miss a beat.

Bigger deal for the Rays.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Aug 13, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's ok

with Griffey roaming CF, he’ll prevent plenty of would-be hits.

MrROFL.com

by shaftr on Aug 13, 2008 5:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Fifth Starter Starts

the rest of the way out could look like this, if the Sox used days off to insure 4 days rest for the four starters they have now—-Buerhle, Floyd, Danks, and Vazquez. If they do that, the fifth starter would have the following starts

8/14 Home against KC
8/19 Home against Sea
9/2 at Clev
9/9 Home against Tor
9/14 Home against Det
9/19 at KC
9/27 Home against Clev

That also leaves Vazquez, Buerhle, and Floyd to pitch the MN series in the Terror Dome. I don’t know if the Sox would do that, but would minimize the starts placed on the 5th guy (whomever that is) and put him in starts that would avoid games against Boston, New York, LAA, and Minnesota. It’s a 4 1/2 man rotation, of sorts. This also presumes that someone like Carrasco could handle the mop-up game against Baltimore on the 25th.

I have serious doubts about Broadway handling those starts. Perhaps by committee? One or more of those games could also be good candidates to try out Poreda.

Thoughts?

by VAChisox on Aug 13, 2008 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

if we had to bring up poreda

it would be for bp use, not for starting. this guy doesn’t have a third pitch yet.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 13, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Broadway will be fine

extra ordinary circumstances will often lead to extra ordinary results

Sox fan from England, marching on together

by hoodlight on Aug 13, 2008 5:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

W, is that you?

by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 13, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

nah, that's more up barack's alley

sox fan, hope machine.

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Aug 13, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dismissive and unwarranted optimisim regarding an action that is, by all available evidence, statistical analysis and expert opinion, almost certainly disastrous?

Au contraire, mon frer, W all the way. Or Hawk.

/Not saying you’re W Hoodie—you’re kidding. I hope.

by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 13, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hope wasted.

"i'm gonna beat you. and then my son chris is gonna beat you. it's gonna be an old fashioned father-son beat off!"

by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

who is this W

character that you refer to? does he take all this stuff seriously?

I think we should be told

regards

Sox fan from England, marching on together

by hoodlight on Aug 13, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

on the right.

"i'm gonna beat you. and then my son chris is gonna beat you. it's gonna be an old fashioned father-son beat off!"

by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

should have posted him with his Brit Poodle.

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

possibly one of the most succesful presidents

in your history, everything he was put into power to do, he has done

Sox fan from England, marching on together

by hoodlight on Aug 13, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

now you've done it.

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

an american history buff, hoodie is not.

"i'm gonna beat you. and then my son chris is gonna beat you. it's gonna be an old fashioned father-son beat off!"

by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you have no understanding of what I said

It is not praise nor a critique, just fact

Sox fan from England, marching on together

by hoodlight on Aug 13, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I got it and it seems accurate.

"You know, if you stab a man in the dead of winter, steam will rise up from the wounds. Indians believed it was his soul escaping from his body." - Mikita's Manager, Glen

by omnipotent grab on Aug 13, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i dunno

my impression is he was put into power to make the powerful/rich even more so while throwing the occasional bone to religious zealots, so i think hoodie’s got it pretty spot on.

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Aug 13, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yup

you got it

Sox fan from England, marching on together

by hoodlight on Aug 13, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, it's Bush's job to give back to the mooching lazy bums of the United States.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you must have mistaken him for a democrat.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Aug 13, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's funny

i understood “lazy bums” as the silver-spoon set

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Aug 13, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you don't like you can get outtttttttt

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 13, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're too optimistic, that's not Chicago Tough mate

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 13, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he'll be fine

there will be a clarity of thought that carries him beyond the festering slurry of bad stats in the minor leagues

Sox fan from England, marching on together

by hoodlight on Aug 13, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

nope. He has hair.

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

to be chicago tough, you have to remember ssh's mantra: "If you are pessimistic, you will be right 80% of the time."

"i'm gonna beat you. and then my son chris is gonna beat you. it's gonna be an old fashioned father-son beat off!"

by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

thats an optimistic spin on being pessimistic

by The Scoper on Aug 13, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How long have I been saying that the Sox need pitching?

If Lance Broadway is the best option the Sox can think of, they should gladly take on Washburn’s entire contract.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"i'm gonna beat you. and then my son chris is gonna beat you. it's gonna be an old fashioned father-son beat off!"

by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

VAC made a good point. The starts can come against lesser Lineups

for the most part. Besides, tomorrow’s start could be Broadway’s only start assuming suckiness.
As for Poreda, does he need a third pitch for the first time sucky teams see him?
If Lance is a Broadway Bomb, I think that’s the next move with Carrasco to clean up any messes.
One game, big deal.

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 6:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

yes.

he’ll have 1.5 pitches against righties, since the slider is not especially effective against opposite handed hitters. he desperately needs a change up.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 13, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yep. For the 3rd time through, or the 2nd time facing.

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

or: Broadway or Poreda?

Uma/Oprah?

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

or to channel Chinatown:

Forget it Cheat, it’s Kansas City.

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 6:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

except this team is already headed for destruction at the metrodome in september without those 7 guaranteed losses

if this really is their plan, fine, they can start broadway and poreda and whoever else whenever they want. play griffey in CF every day! will be exciting! lots of runs=excitement=ticket sales! never underestimate kenny’s genius!

by uofcdood on Aug 13, 2008 6:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

University of Cleveland?

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

why can't you ever think CRESTWOOD?!?

"i'm gonna beat you. and then my son chris is gonna beat you. it's gonna be an old fashioned father-son beat off!"

by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is the school next to the Lowes Cineplex?

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 13, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you have to ask uofcdood.

"i'm gonna beat you. and then my son chris is gonna beat you. it's gonna be an old fashioned father-son beat off!"

by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Knew a girl, long time ago, who said "kiss me where it smells"

I drove her to Crestwood.

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 6:30 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

for Toonder

bally disease

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 13, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Stickney too.

"You know, if you stab a man in the dead of winter, steam will rise up from the wounds. Indians believed it was his soul escaping from his body." - Mikita's Manager, Glen

by omnipotent grab on Aug 13, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

tuna

by The Scoper on Aug 13, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

On the topic of 5th Starters

I want some learned analysis. McCarthy gave the Sox huge starts in September 2005. I thought he was poised to take the 5th starter spot in 2006, but KW got Javy instead and that pushed McCarthy into the bullpen, where he underperformed. I went to one game in Baltimore where he came on in relief of Garland and was miserable.

I always thought that moving McCarthy, who was brought up as a starter, into the bullpen killed his career. He was not a reliever and didn’t perform at all. I know that injuries have been hurting him in Texas, but how much did this move to the pen in 2006 ruin McCarthy?

by VAChisox on Aug 13, 2008 6:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i am unsure

by The Scoper on Aug 13, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

its not uncommon for young (future) starters to develop in the pen

if brandon couldn’t handle it, he’s a goddamn pussy. the reason why brandon underperformed was because kenny williams was screwing brandon’s girlfriend*.

that is a joke based on a super baseless rumor posted on soxtalk (i think) after the danks/mccarthy trade.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 14, 2008 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Washburn sucks

Broadway, Washburn.. not much difference other than 10 million. Plus having Washburn gives you 3 pitchers that have about the same stuff. I also think Carrasco should be in the ‘pen because he has done well there when many others have not. Maybe he’ll be o.k….I doubt it but we’ll see

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 13, 2008 6:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i'd take washburn over broadway there chief

i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry

by furby2056 on Aug 13, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

but he isnt much of an upgrade

and for a huge amount of cash it isn’t worth it. maybe if he was a free agent at the end of the year.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 13, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The great KenWo has spoken.

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 13, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You are insane...

Broadway can’t even match Washburn’s numbers in AAA. Give it a rest.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 13, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you think Washburn is a stud then you are the one who is insane.

I am not saying Broadway is better. When you factor in the ton of money for next year it is not worth it. Washburn isn’t CC or a healthy Bedard or Harden…. He will not be a significant improvement over Broadway or whoever else you throw in there. What is with all this Washburn love? 2006- 8 wins 14 losses. 2007 10 wins 15 losses 2008 5 wins 12 losses. I think youre the fucking moron if you think this guy is worth trading for and paying 10 million next year when he has been shit since 2002.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 13, 2008 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i think you're the fucking moron if you think wins is the best measure by which to judge a pitcher.

"i'm gonna beat you. and then my son chris is gonna beat you. it's gonna be an old fashioned father-son beat off!"

by Toonderstrook on Aug 13, 2008 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep. See Danks.

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Aug 14, 2008 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you are a pitcher that is any good

You will win at least as many games as you lose you jackass. I haven’t heard of too many good starters that are 23-41 over the last three years. I don’t care what team you play on, what kind of worthless stats you can throw out..it doesn’t matter. Winners win- Losers lose…it’s as simple as that. Look at the Mariners starters for example- Felix Hernandez and Erik Bedard…good starters are at least .500 even though the team sucks. Washburn and Silva are way below .500 because they are not good starters.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 14, 2008 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs