Clayton Richard to Start Tuesday

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Hey at least its the Mariners hes facing.

We should be able to win it with offense.

"You know, if you stab a man in the dead of winter, steam will rise up from the wounds. Indians believed it was his soul escaping from his body." - Mikita's Manager, Glen

by omnipotent grab on Aug 18, 2008 5:18 PM CDT 0 recs

Weather Channel

sez 10% chance of rain on Tuesday night… :(

I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator

by Nordhagen on Aug 18, 2008 5:25 PM CDT 0 recs

the mariners play better when it's wet

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 18, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up 0 recs

mumbles something about port sluts…

paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.

by larry on Aug 18, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up 0 recs

I don't mind this.

I think he’s been victimized by bad luck and bad defense thus far. I don’t mind giving him another shot.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Aug 18, 2008 5:41 PM CDT 0 recs

and i think he's been victimized by "not ready for the major leagues-ness"

paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.

by larry on Aug 18, 2008 5:49 PM CDT up 0 recs

I think there's chocolate in my peanut butter.

I saw an advertisement for a chocolate chip cookie company that said, "Changing the world, one chip at a time." And I thought of you. Changing the world, one chip at a time. Chip, chip, chip, chip.
You're beautiful. Change is beautiful.
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Aug 18, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up 0 recs

I guess we'll see.

I didn’t see the start against KC, but he looked decent the other three times out.

Richard or Broadway, it’s flip a coin time, IMO.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Aug 18, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up 0 recs

you certainly missed the fun, then.

his stuff isn’t quite there yet.

paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.

by larry on Aug 18, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up 0 recs

and my coin has pictures of dj carrasco on both sides.

paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.

by larry on Aug 18, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up 0 recs

then i'm guessing this coin you speak of holds no value.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Aug 18, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up 0 recs

more value than the richard/broadway coin.

paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.

by larry on Aug 18, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up 0 recs

Maybe.

I’d be fine with Carrasco out there, too.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Aug 18, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up 0 recs

Dj is probably the best choice but I believe the sentiment

on Richard is too harsh.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Aug 18, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up 0 recs

i don't know why. he wasn't major league ready when he was called up the first time. nothing's changed.

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by larry on Aug 18, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up 0 recs

We'll see Larry

I just disagree at this point. I don’t think his stuff is that far off. Young pitching learning to avoid big innings is a part of life but to me he seems past the minors right now.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Aug 18, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up 0 recs

that ridiculously low babip in the minors certainly says otherwise.

his numbers this year are a mirage.

paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.

by larry on Aug 18, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up 0 recs

Okay Larry

So the .250 is ridiculous but .330 the other way isn’t? Get serious he has made improvement. A 4 to 1 walk ratio in AA/AAA this year is nothing to sneeze at for any prospect. Hell even getting rocked in the show he was 13:4 KK/BB. I don’t share your confidence that he doesn’t have it yet.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Aug 18, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up 0 recs

He doesn't have it yet. Watch tomorrow.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 18, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up 0 recs

I will

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Aug 18, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up 0 recs

improved, sure. no one is denying that. quit going after the strawman.

but his pitches aren’t fully developed yet. he’s not ready to start regularly at the major league level. that’s not a knock on a player. it’s more a sad statement on the the sox minor league system.

paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.

by larry on Aug 18, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up 0 recs

I don't believe I have overstated the evaluation of Richard on the board

Its real easy to look at his hits against and make these assumptions. I saw mistakes of location and confidence issues compounded by weak D, imo I didn’t really see pitches not fully developed. What specifically are you referring to? Honest question.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Aug 18, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up 0 recs

what are mistakes of location if not pitches not being fully developed?

the difference between minor league pitchers (especially AA/AAA ones) and major league pitchers is not so much stuff but ability to locate and command that stuff on a consistent basis.

paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.

by larry on Aug 18, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up 0 recs

i didn't understand what you were getting at with that babip comparison.

i assumed you knew that babips were higher in the minors, for reasons i’m sure you can figure out. .330 is quite normal for the southern league. about a .320, iirc, is normal for aaa. bp or somewhere did an analysis of minor league babips so you can look them up if you want. suffice to say, .250 is quite low and is even more aberrant in the minors. his babips prior to this year were normal for his level.

paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.

by larry on Aug 18, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up 0 recs

I agree with you Jer

I think he has been victimized a bit. More so in the first 2 starts. There was a bit of dear in headlights in his 3rd start but I haven’t given up on him for this year.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Aug 18, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up 0 recs

Ugh

Last time he just sucked.

What’s supposed to change?

by Option27 on Aug 18, 2008 6:39 PM CDT 0 recs

By the way

His ERA is 9.64 but his FIP is 4.95 which kind of illustrates the victimized point.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Aug 18, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up 0 recs

or it could illustrate the "i just left you a cookie belt high in the middle of the zone" point.

paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.

by larry on Aug 18, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up 0 recs

Either could be true.

We’ll get more data points on the morrow.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Aug 18, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up 0 recs

He had flashes in the first game he pitched (Hamilton is owned)

but has been lit up since. Tabasco deserves it.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 18, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up 0 recs

Sorry I watched the first 2 games.

The defense was absolutely shitty behind him.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Aug 18, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up 0 recs

sure. but there's a reason line drive rate is used to determine a hitters' expected babip. hard hit balls are more likely to be hits. and he served up quite a few of those.

paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.

by larry on Aug 18, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up 0 recs

change is beautiful

by 3E8 on Aug 18, 2008 6:43 PM CDT 0 recs

Worth one more shot imo

He did show flashes of skill, I’m okay with one more shot.. if we had a better option, I’d say go for it. Problem is we don’t.

by 815Sox on Aug 18, 2008 9:00 PM CDT 0 recs

it is the mariners. and it is felix. it's not like sending someone else out there would make a huge difference.

if he can’t be successful against kc and the mariners, the sox will certainly know what they have.

paging mr. poreda. paging mr. aaron poreda. your seat in the left field bullpen is ready.

by larry on Aug 19, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up 0 recs

In the 4 previous starts against the Sox, King Felix has an ERA of ~5

27 hits, 26 strikeouts in 23.1 innings, so he hasn’t owned the Sox thus far in his career and this shouldn’t be a “tip your cap before the game even starts” situation.

King Felix does have 5 quality starts in his last 7 games (ERA 3.56), so it looks like he’s been pitching well. If the Sox can show some patience at the plate (big, big if there, I know) and get to the Seattle bullpen, they certainly have a good shot…which seems to be a general rule of thumb for winning just about any game, I suppose. Hernandez has been walking his fair share of batters, even if he is a winner that knows how to win games like Kenwo suggests, so I don’t think my analysis is quite as retarded as it may have sounded.

Interesting that fat Toby (6 PA) has a better OPS against King Felix than AJ (8 PA). Fuck it, I’d start him, although I don’t know how that would affect the “handling of the pitching staff” aspect of the game.

Let’s hope Richard shows us something good this evening. GO SOX!

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 19, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up 0 recs

I'd rather have seen DJ or Egbert get the call

Richard clearly seems unwilling to throw anything other fastballs. I’m guessing that he lacks confidence in his breaking stuff. So I have to agree with larry that he doesn’t have the secondary pitches to be in the bigs yet. The Sox really, really need to find another starter — I think DJ is the only real option at this point.

by hitlesswonder on Aug 18, 2008 11:15 PM CDT 0 recs