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Gavin Floyd: Counterpoint

Gavin Floyd has been extremely lucky this year. He sports the sixth-lowest BABIP of any starting pitcher (.255), and, not coincidentally, his actual ERA (3.78) has been far lower than his FIP (4.95). In fact, if we use FIP as a standard, only three starting pitchers have been luckier than Floyd this season (Joe Saunders, Shaun Marcum, and Armando Galarraga). Conventional sabermetric wisdom suggests that Floyd is very likely to regress.

But if we look more closely at Floyd's season, we can see that the "conventional wisdom" is misleading. Yes, Floyd's overall numbers are indicative of good luck, but a closer look yields two interesting results: first, Floyd has improved significantly over the course of the season; second, Floyd has already regressed.

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I guess if it was all luck...

He would be getting bombed more frequently lately. He seems to keep having quality starts. His biggest enemy seems to be serving up the 3-run jack on a total meatball.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 21, 2008 11:40 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's my point...

since he is apparently always going to give up a lot of homers, if he can stay away from giving them up with men on base and just keep on giving up the solo jacks it won’t kill him.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 21, 2008 12:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep. Gavin = Fergie

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2008 1:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he isn't doing a very good job giving up the solo jacks, at least compared to the other guys on the sox.

he has given up a LOT of 2 run homers (14 of 23 overall) and only 1/3 are solo shots, as opposed to 9/11 for danks, 9/17 for buehrle, and 16/21 for vazquez.

let’s just keep our fingers crossed.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 1:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

welcome to the land of those unable to repeat mechanics.

floyd no likey pitching from the stretch.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 21, 2008 1:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Exactly...

Whenever I see Floyd with runners on base, I picture a white Contreras from a couple years back when he would always shit himself with baserunners.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 21, 2008 1:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's not "shitting himself"

he doesn’t get the same movement on his pitches from the stretch.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 21, 2008 1:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't understand pitching from the stretch...

when you don’t even have a chance of holding baserunners, regardless of the way you pitch (like Contreras and Floyd).

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 21, 2008 1:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

um, not everyone can steal on those guys.

but if they started pitching from the windup, frank thomas would start.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 21, 2008 1:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe he sharts a little, though?

anecdotally, the 15 home runs of the more than solo variety that gavin has given up have been immediately preceded by a double 7 times(!), a walk 3 times, a runner reaching on an error 1 time, and an out 4 times.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 1:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

see above

“welcome to the land of those unable to repeat mechanics.”

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 21, 2008 1:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe he does repeat...just in the bad way.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 2:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

your statement though got me interested in the healthy sox starters' hr stats.

between them, floyd (23), danks (11), buehrle (17), and vazquez (21) have served up 72 home runs—43 solo shots, 22 two-run jobs, 7 three-run jacks, and 1 grand slam.

danks is clearly the star here, surrending bombs at a much lower rate than the rest and with considerably less damage (9 solo, 1 two-run, 1 three-run). javy, for what it’s worth, has also picked pretty good times to give up the long ball as 16 of the 21 have cost the sox only 1 run.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 12:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

should be 42 solo shots, not 43. stupid abacus.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 12:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or stupid Toonder

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 21, 2008 2:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank you

This is the type of piece that I was looking for on Gavin good or bad. Its something more than your basic Gavin has been lucky and is likely regress stuff I have read over and over.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Aug 21, 2008 11:53 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

something about squeeky wheels...

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 21, 2008 11:58 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One future argument

And please folks lets at least wait till the off season, will be the call to trade Floyd at his perceived highest value. I suspect I will be one of the minority who will think that is not a good idea. By the way Gavin’s runs allowed is down to 4.84.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Aug 21, 2008 12:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ruse.

arte moreno doesn’t have a nanny. you have to throw in shields now, asshole.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 21, 2008 12:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Sox couldn't afford to trade Floyd even when Contreras was healthy...

Contreras is 50 so he could have easily been terrible next season anyways and the only true rotation replacement the Sox have is Poreda.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 21, 2008 12:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sure they could.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 21, 2008 1:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In general, I'd like the Sox to keep Floyd

There’s no one in the minors to take his place, and if he can be an average starter in the AL for the minimum that’s actually hard to replace (and I do think he has shown he can be average starter next year, as the posted article points out).

Obviously, all the caveats apply about anyone being moveable in the right deal, but unless the return is something special (e.g. very good catching prospects ready for the bigs) I’d keep him.

by hitlesswonder on Aug 21, 2008 1:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

you can take a break from bloggin if you don’t like it ;-)

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Aug 21, 2008 12:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i have enough stress in my life without you.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 21, 2008 12:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

speaking of...

I do wish he’d come back to at least participate. Bag the admin stuff if he needs to, but don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater (so to speak). If the Sox should make the playoffs, it’d be nice if he had to place to enjoy it with likeminded fans.

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2008 12:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 21, 2008 1:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the lack of win is strong with this one

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 21, 2008 1:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you too, huh?

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2008 1:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so it's not just shitty explorer?

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 1:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm at work, so Explorer it is.

Funny, Safari (phone) usually opens IE fials.

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2008 1:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought this was Larry's intentional fial, in response to you, who inadvertenly fialed with photos for so long.

My detector is weak today, but I suspect Larry mean for that red x.

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 21, 2008 1:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nah. i just don't care anymore. if the picture shows up, fine. if the picture can only be seen with a right click and show picture, fine. if you need to cut and paste the properties, fine.

and if it doesn’t show up, fine. the “fail” thing sort of lost its amusement right around the time of your dad’s epic fails.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 21, 2008 1:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would think someone who is used to manipulating behavior

would want to exert every ounce of influence he could to do just that.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 1:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ha.

I have not known Larry to be a diplomatic pacifist.

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 21, 2008 1:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i don't know what this means.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 21, 2008 1:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aye, there's the rub

If you’ve already loaded it via the direct address, it shows. If you haven’t loaded it before, it won’t show via the image tags. I think that’s a pbase thing.

Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Aug 21, 2008 1:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

right click give me choices, one of which is "show picture"

still fial.

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2008 1:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe click on properties?

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 21, 2008 1:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

already tried. then tried pasting the url and still fialed.

but I’m sure it was worth all theses machinations.

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2008 1:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Matchup: Twins (72-54) at Angels (77-48), 7:05 p.m. PT
Probable Starters: Scott Baker (119 2/3 IP, 3.91 RA, 1.20 WHIP, 101 K) vs. John Lackey (120 1/3, 3.44, 1.14, 93)
Pythagorean Record: Minnesota, 69-57 (641 RS, 579 RA); Los Angeles, 69-56 (587 RS, 528 RA)
Hit List Rankings: Minnesota, #14; Los Angeles, #5
Prospectus: Just one back of the White Sox in the AL Central and just a half-game behind Boston for the wild-card spot, Minnesota begins a four-game series against the team with the best record in baseball. The Twins lineup will be bolstered by the return of second baseman Alexi Casilla, who missed the last 21 games with a torn thumb tendon, an injury that was initially feared to be serious enough to possibly knock him out for the season. Minnesota’s offense performed well in Casilla’s absence, scoring 5.9 runs per game, but of course the Twins are much better off with their 23-year-old switch-hitter in the fold, who has been Minnesota’s best offensive option in the middle infield this year. Casilla’s return to a starting role will push Nick Punto back to shortstop, where he will have to fight for playing time with Brendan Harris, who has been hitting lately (.340 average in his last 15 games).

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 21, 2008 12:50 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think the Twins are going to lose

The bullpen blows, they didn’t do all that great against Oaktown… I think they begin to fall off here

by 815Sox on Aug 21, 2008 7:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so it would seem that the higher era for the last 16 starts

can be attributed to the higher HR/FB ratio, right? but his other stats indicate improvement. does anybody have thoughts whether the k/9 in particular is sustainable, at least through next season?

by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 21, 2008 12:51 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2008 12:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no.

counterpoint.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 21, 2008 1:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this isn't that revelatory for this community, actually

plenty of optimism in that voting

we know the line on gavin. stuff = good. command = not good.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 21, 2008 1:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well this is one of the reasons i'd really like to get my command metric going

but there’s no way in hell i’m doing that by hand. but basically, i think he’s erratic because he can’t repeat his mechanics consistently. so he’s going to have to go on a long streak with very good control. and every time i watch him i see a guy who isn’t really sure where the next pitch is headed. so i’m not convinced, but i’m not going to say i don’t think it can happen.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 21, 2008 1:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

exactly

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 21, 2008 1:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like how you did that, after a rant about English majors...

you knew Colin was going to correct you on that.

He is white after all.

"White people love rules. It explains why so they get upset when people cut in line, why they tip so religiously and why they become lawyers. "

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 21, 2008 1:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You don't want to be a member of that club.

You’d be traded by Chapelle from the “black” team, just like Tiger, Condi, and Colin (Powell, that is).

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 1:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whoa, check out the relatively current cultural reference from WU!

I am impressed, opos!

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 21, 2008 1:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Love 'em.

How does a guy get $35M and decide to walk away and go to Africa, then back to small stand-up clubs? Pressure sometimes does not build diamonds.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 2:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i know you fucking do.

it was a fucking joke.

fucking regards.

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 21, 2008 1:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

keep cool, my baby.

I’m the most chill person on this entire site.

I’m the hippie in the NW, reeeemmmeemmmmmber?

I’s kidding too. I don’t even think Colin would have actually corrected you – I just wanted to link that beautiful blog post.

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 21, 2008 1:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There are scarily a lot of things on his list that make perfect, utter sense.

I am embarrassed by it sometimes. Being white is so not cool. I mean…I love my Sigg bottle. :(

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 21, 2008 1:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you ain't no hippie after all.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 2:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's really more like "What yuppies like" if I may use a dated cultural reference

There’s a lot of white people that don’t know what a Sigg bottle is. The kind of white person that spends time reading stuff on web…they tend to know what a Sigg bottle is.

by hitlesswonder on Aug 21, 2008 2:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what's a Sigg bottle?

regards

Sox fan from England, marching on together

by hoodlight on Aug 21, 2008 2:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 21, 2008 2:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't like using google

If I ask on here something I don’t know, then I may get different answers or more detail. It may even generate some debate all of which is more interesting to me. So I am not appearing ‘thick’, just ineterested, that’s all.

regards

Sox fan from England, marching on together

by hoodlight on Aug 21, 2008 2:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In this day and age of plastic bottles leaking toxins/carcinogens into your liquid, these aluminum bottles are the next big thing among yuppies.

And the demographic of people who do not wish to get cancer and think merely changing their choice in water bottle will somehow prevent that.

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 21, 2008 2:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what about the glow in the dark stuff on them?

that’s usuall y toxic as fuck that stuff

Sox fan from England, marching on together

by hoodlight on Aug 21, 2008 2:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is on the outside of the bottle....

not seeping into my liquid.

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 21, 2008 2:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you're definitely white on the gullibility factor.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 2:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

because I like aliens?

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 21, 2008 2:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do not speak ill of colin.

He’s quirky yet nice.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 2:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i've been meaning to inquire of you...

what do you think of think of those long urinals you get in gents’ bogs, where all the other blokes are having a quick squint?

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 2:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not a fan to be honest

don’t you get them in the States? They are quite common in Pubs, and Sporting facilities here. You’ll be hard pushed to find anyone who says " you know what? I really love those long urinals they have in the Rose and Crown ". Then again english men don’t tend to have hangups about the size of their cocks as we don’t as a rule have them mutilated as little boys!

regards

Sox fan from England, marching on together

by hoodlight on Aug 21, 2008 2:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Were you watching "RedEye" this morning, Toonder?

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 2:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow

And, wow.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 2:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wandered into a very white "Outdoor Recreation" store and found mine. I was sold on the design - little aliens dropping from the sky onto a city. And then I got it home, and the alien eyes and building lights GLOW IN THE FREAKING DARK!

Then read that article afterwards….and confirmed my caucasian-ness.

I must say – those bottles are incredible – they don’t keep the taste/smell of any non-water liquids you put into them. I can fill it with OJ on my way to work, and then put water in it the rest of the day, and not taste the OJ. Greatness.

And it’s sturdy – mine just took a 15-foot fall onto cement and walked away unblemished.

I do not leave home without it (thumbs up, big cheesy grin)!

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 21, 2008 2:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we call them Thermos Flasks

Sox fan from England, marching on together

by hoodlight on Aug 21, 2008 2:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And you can't currently order them online

My whiteness showing through and through

"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-

by Hazymania on Aug 21, 2008 2:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i love white women.

but this might be pushing it.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Aug 21, 2008 9:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that's some funny stuff.

you white people are funny, but i also hate you.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Aug 21, 2008 9:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you just have to prepare yourself for times when he's going to look abysmal

which is exactly what happened after i posted that poll in the first place.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 21, 2008 1:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would guess not...

Corner OF with power is not considered a premium. The list appears to value C, CF, SP….
I’m gonna guess no Sox make the list.

by hitlesswonder on Aug 21, 2008 2:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hates?!

half of em live here and most have serious respect for kenny and ozzie

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 21, 2008 3:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey, pitching guy.

i have a question about silver’s assessment of zambrano at #43. nate wrote that “statistically speaking, [zambrano]’s still a number-two starter masquerading as a one….” the question is…what in the hell do you think this means? that historically aces have better counting numbers and peripherals? that there are really 30 pitchers pitching today (to come out essentially to one #1 pitcher per team) who have better stats than zambrano? something else?

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 4:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nate is stoopid.

for whatever reason, when people refer to “#1 starter” (or whatever number, come to think of it) the actual counting numbers don’t seem to add up. as in, no one really ever seems to think there are actually 30 pitchers who are 1s and so on. there are probably ten or less pitchers people could all agree are aces.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 21, 2008 4:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is Zambrano one of them?

I’d think so.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 4:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'll take the under on 10.

i can come up with 5 no doubters and 5 maybes (1 very young, 1 who is overshadowed by another guy on his own team, 1 who is hurt too often, and 2 who are having down years)

sure things: halladay, johan, peavy, webb, sabathia
maybes: lincecum, haren, sheets, owalt, beckett

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 4:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh, and zambrano in the maybe.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 4:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You forgot Yaz

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 21, 2008 4:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

too soon.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 4:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think you'd need to loosen your definition somewhat.

but you illustrate the point.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 21, 2008 4:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is Owalt a Disney reference?

You are too cute for words, you softie.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 4:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it was an homage to you, minnie.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 4:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why would he say "statistically speaking" then?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 21, 2008 10:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If John Lackey...

is “underrated”, what is Mark Buehrle?

John Lackey career ERA+ (1281 IP) – 118
Mark Buehrle career ERA+ (1797 IP) – 122

I guess Lackey is five months younger than Buehrle, so he’s got that going for him.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Aug 21, 2008 2:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Does he roll with the HUGE pickup and gun rack?

I didn’t think so.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 2:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i just assumed it was hiding under his jowls.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 2:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Danks is Supero Bulldog then, right?

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 2:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

meaning his balls stick out behind his legs?

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 21, 2008 4:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes.

That is exactly what he meant.

Why so serious?

by reardenmettle on Aug 21, 2008 4:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I figure so, him living in the "gay" area (just for you, WU) and all

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 21, 2008 4:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was listening to this on the way home and thought of your post today, rithm:

So messed up I want you here
In my room I want you here
Now we’re gonna be face-to-face
And I’ll lay right down in my favorite place
And now I wanna be your dog
Now I wanna be your dog
Now I wanna be your dog
Well c’mon

Enjoy Iggy and the Stooges.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 7:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

got a lust for life.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 7:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, Iggy and the Stooges were magnificent

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 22, 2008 10:39 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ARE. ARE!

Goodbye Betsy im goin’ away
I’m sick of you and there aint no way
Dont want to know, dont want to see
Dont you ever bother me
Sick of hanging around your pad
Sick of your Mom and sick of your Dad
Yeah and Betsy,
its sad but true,
now im even sick of you.

For the naysayers.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 22, 2008 11:52 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay, they are magnificent

sheesh

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 22, 2008 12:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey you have a gmail?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 21, 2008 10:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

more to the point then

“what is it?”

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 21, 2008 10:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

my whiteness implores me to point out the errors in this sentence from the story highlights in the upper right hand corner.

“If you were starting a baseball team froms cratch, who would you choose?”

i can point this out confidently without risking death at the hand of larry because i’m sure nate silver didn’t actually write that.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 2:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice eye, whitey.

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 21, 2008 2:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you know the greatest invention of the 20th century?

the Thermos: you put something hot in it and it stays hot. you put something cold in it and it stays cold. How does it know?

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2008 2:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

silly wabbit...

a thermos simply slows down heat transfer either to the liquid inside it (cold) or from the liquid inside it (hot), thereby preserving the temperature of the liquid for long periods

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 2:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Way to stomp on the Seinfeld

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 2:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Morty

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2008 3:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how could you spend $200 on a tip calculator?

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 3:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

“Look, I got a few good years left. If I want a Chip Ahoy, I’m having it.”

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2008 3:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why does baseball prospectus charge again?

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 21, 2008 2:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As expected, Masset looks like a stud in the N.L.

He just struck out Soriano on a nasty slider.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 21, 2008 2:43 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wouldn't mind a pitcher giving up over a hit per 9 innings in the bigs

as long as it was under 8 hits per 9 innings, assuming he keeps the walks to a minimum.

Ha. In your face, Toonder!

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 21, 2008 4:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 4:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Your picture didn't load, therefore you get an EPIC FIAL for the day

and it will go on your permanent record.

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 21, 2008 5:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

shows up on my screen, loser.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 6:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well then, my computer and firefox get the old EPIC FIAL on their permanent records

but you still have one on your permanent record as well because these things can’t be deleted. Those permanent records function much like credit agencies. Oh well.

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 21, 2008 6:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I did find a way to see it, and was thoroughly disappointed

keep trying, maybe some day you’ll post something funny.

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 21, 2008 6:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fail also on Safari (iPhone)

though I’m sure it was as good as larry’s.

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2008 6:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

don't say that. you'll get both of us in trouble!

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 6:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Failed for me too. Will try at home...

Why don’t you post a picture that everyone can enjoy, Toonder?

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 21, 2008 7:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

C!C!

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2008 2:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah, the running Scrub + ex-Sox-nostalgia-visit posts.

SSH in heaven.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 2:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The guy sucks...

but he can probably be successful in the N.L.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 21, 2008 2:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

don't talk about him like that...he's my shit guy and i love him

regards

dusty

If I was a caterpillar and you were a caterpillar I would metamorphosize into a butterfly so that you could see the vast potential of your great beauty. And then you would change, and we would have changed. And it would be beautiful. Change is beautiful.

by furby2056 on Aug 21, 2008 3:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The funny thing is that the Reds had two ex-Sox pitching today...

Josh Fogg with the mediocre start and Masset came on in relief.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 21, 2008 2:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

kenny williams is smarter than all of us so fuck you
It was here where the White Sox GM uttered a most memorable sentence, coming just 24 hours after the 88-win Tigers had added Miguel Cabrera to an already power-packed lineup.

“All this has done has put the Tigers in a better position to contend with us,” a supremely confident Williams stated, without the hint of a smile or laugh.

…

“In jest, with a hint of seriousness,” said Williams, recounting this bold statement, sitting in the White Sox dugout prior to Tuesday’s matchup during his team’s three-game sweep of the Mariners, moving its record to 73-53.

His explanation continued as to why Williams thought that the White Sox would contend in 2008, aside from the significant personnel upgrades made.

“Well, I think what was ignored, to a large degree, is even through the difficulties last year, we had a winning record against our division,” Williams said. "If you are saying our division is one of the best, then it stands to reason that if we think we match up against our division and if we correct a number of things and balance ourselves out for the long haul, then we should be in the thick of it.

“That’s all. We also had nine guys in our starting lineup who achieved below their career levels. It’s not a stretch to think some of them would rebound.”

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080821&content_id=3344433&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 21, 2008 3:28 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

KW kicks all of us in the nuts

If I was a caterpillar and you were a caterpillar I would metamorphosize into a butterfly so that you could see the vast potential of your great beauty. And then you would change, and we would have changed. And it would be beautiful. Change is beautiful.

by furby2056 on Aug 21, 2008 3:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not bad for a moron.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 3:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

73-53

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 21, 2008 3:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice equipement there.

No pocket protector, though. Loser.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 3:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice equipment too

"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-

by Hazymania on Aug 21, 2008 3:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was speaking in the Queen's English

(Ah, hell, why even type? Hopeless. Helpless. Friendless.)

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 4:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh we're still e-friends

I just felt like waving some Samuel L. in your face.

"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-

by Hazymania on Aug 21, 2008 4:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what?

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 4:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Say what again!

Say what again! I fucking dare you!

"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-

by Hazymania on Aug 21, 2008 4:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What?

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 4:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BLAM!

All of a sudden I want a big kahuna burger…

"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-

by Hazymania on Aug 21, 2008 4:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh man I shot Marvin in the face!

Why the fuck’d you do that???

"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-

by Hazymania on Aug 21, 2008 4:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Car didn't hit no mother-fucking bump!

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 21, 2008 5:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I find that to be the funniest line in the movie

Something about Travolta’s delivery of that line slays me…I guess the way he says it is the same way someone would say, “Oh man, they’re out of ice cream sandwiches”

-Jeeves Life in the Cell

by jeeves on Aug 21, 2008 5:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah he's just so amusingly resigned and unaffected

by the loss of Marvin.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 21, 2008 10:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

kenny is my personal jesus

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 21, 2008 3:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is that the Depeche Mode guy?

You Goth rocker, you.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 4:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hopeless. helpless. friendless. and now clueless.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 4:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Coldplay.

Speaking as we were of being White.

“Personal Jesus” just so happens to be one of my fave Depeche songs. It flowed naturally.

You may have your Paltrow sidekick and move to London.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 4:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So to which Chris Martin were you referring if not to the Coldplay frontman?

Ah, I’m out.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 4:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 4:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All I asked is who Chris Martin is. I thought he was the lead singer for Depeche Mode because of the "Personal Jesus" reference. He is not - he is, in fact, the lead singer for Coldplay.

If you were not referring to THAT Chris Martin, to whom were you referring? What am I missing?

GD attorneys.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 4:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ok, here goes.
  • i reference chris martin, the coldplay guy, because he is more lame than anybody in depeche mode, in response to colin’s personal jesus reference.
  • you ask if chris martin is the depeche mode guy.
  • i play on your earlier reference to helplessness, hoplessness, and friendlessness.
  • you look it up and figure out chris martin is coldplay guy, but then tell me in response that i may have the paltrow sidekick and move to london.
  • i reply that i do not like coldplay (and by implication that i do not like chris martin), not that you were incorrect in your research of who chris martin is.
  • you cease making sense.
  • both of our brains short circuit.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 4:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's a terrible recap

Leave ’em to Guapo, OK?

Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Aug 21, 2008 5:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's Guano.

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2008 5:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What a crappy recap.

Nowhere near condescending enough and it doesn’t even contain the requisite number of swears (4).

I give you kudos for the Short Circuit reference. Clearly one of Guttenberg’s best. But then again, it’s hard not to celebrate his whole collection.

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 21, 2008 5:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Steve or the bible guy?

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2008 6:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I effin' hate Coldplay.

"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-

by Hazymania on Aug 21, 2008 6:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was the bitchiest thing anyone's ever said to me on this site

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 21, 2008 10:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm sorry.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 22, 2008 10:38 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but i did lol

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 21, 2008 10:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you're welcome.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 22, 2008 10:38 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL. Nice - a round trip in 2 posts.

Head is spinning.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 22, 2008 11:53 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Totally off topic...

but how many more visits to this site are we averaging per day than we did a year ago at this time?

It looks like every post here, regardless of what’s being talked about, has like 250+ responses.

On the old board a year ago you might get 50.

Wonder if that has to do with the “new” site or the team’s performance.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Aug 21, 2008 6:37 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Id say last year a lot of us werent following to closely at this point in the season,

other than tracking Danks, Floyd, Fields, and our draft location i wasnt following too much.

"You know, if you stab a man in the dead of winter, steam will rise up from the wounds. Indians believed it was his soul escaping from his body." - Mikita's Manager, Glen

by omnipotent grab on Aug 21, 2008 6:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do you mean with the hide-and-go-seek game threads?

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 21, 2008 7:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no, there was a complete revamp of the whole site

and SBN in general. You know of the Great Orange Satan’s empire?
If not, I’ll provide link-love tomorrow for your edification.

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2008 7:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

unless you're on an iPhone and have no "zed" key

almost impossible to keep up when the count gets over 150 or so posts.

And people think I disappear due to exhaustion.

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2008 7:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

decrepitude.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 7:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that too. But the phone is a swell excuse.

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2008 7:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Zed's dead, baby.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 7:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

vroom....

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 7:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know my friend, but it wouldn't let me type a Z

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2008 7:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Funny how much like last season

This season we’re all keeping an eye on the daily doings of the Tampa Bay baseball squad. Though for totally opposite reasons. Oh what a difference a few moons make.

"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-

by Hazymania on Aug 21, 2008 6:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's hard to compare for two reasons

the first is that Sitemeter adjusted some of their metrics late last fall. The second is because of the new commenting system, which suppresses pageviews versus the old system.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Aug 21, 2008 7:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Supresses pageviews?

I’m not sure I understand that. But I kinda liked the old style better. Less time loading pages due to not loading avatars, ridiculous pictures like the ones below, etc.

Just my opinion.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Aug 22, 2008 9:06 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love this new board...

but I hate how long it takes to scroll through. Even on a new computer, scrolling through a long thread is a memory hog.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 22, 2008 9:48 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Then you should close the porn downloads when the game is on

Multi-tasking sucks up a lot of RAM

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 22, 2008 10:44 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

honestly...

I preferred the old one. I’m clearly in the minority here… but there is just too much going on here that someone with ADD like myself… I just can’t stay focused. it’s too overwhelming for my senses. Heh.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Aug 22, 2008 11:47 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Get with the program - or you will be shot and dumped in the river

like Wiz. Or get torched in a fiery car wreck like Pete.

Oh, yes, we’ve thinned the herd while you’ve been gone, Shoeless.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 22, 2008 11:54 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 22, 2008 12:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You continually amaze me.

What the hell is that?

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 22, 2008 12:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A Magic card!

haha, nice one Toonder.
Very quality.

Regards,
Tossed Salad

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 22, 2008 12:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You are a bigger dork than I could have ever imagined

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 22, 2008 12:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whereas my dorky is completely out in the open, no imagination required.

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 22, 2008 1:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i don't want to strain rhythm's brain any further

by reminding him that my google image searches are for relevance, not preference.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 22, 2008 1:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah.

Well, in my cool defense, I haven’t played Magic since I was 12.

But damn, was it fun!

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 22, 2008 1:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 22, 2008 1:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pete... Wiz...?!

What have you done with them?!

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Aug 23, 2008 12:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's because there are great posters on here now

who have good command of the English vernacluar.

regards

Sox fan from England, marching on together

by hoodlight on Aug 21, 2008 7:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed. They all say "I no google! I no google!"

but then that’s Crestwood for you.

Cod: It’s the new white meat.

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2008 7:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you do know my old pal

and you may laugh, but Cod is a very important fish. One that had a major impact in the formation of your very young nation.

regards

Sox fan from England, marching on together

by hoodlight on Aug 21, 2008 7:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it is still unclear if your "cod in the oven"

was a joke, dinner, or a sexual act.

Regardless

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2008 7:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it was food

no jokes!

Sox fan from England, marching on together

by hoodlight on Aug 21, 2008 8:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cod is the only fish that has a piece named after it

that houses testicles. I believe Ian Anderson popularized that fashion statement.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 7:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"thick as a brick" ian anderson?

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 7:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1st "Metal Rock" Grammy winner. LOL!

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2008 7:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, the Depeche Mode Ian Anderson

Christ.

;)

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 7:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am seeing Christ this evening listening to Iggy Pop

wearing my Ian Anderson codpiece pining for my personal Jesus.

Oh, and the meth is dope.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 21, 2008 7:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe you guys really do have more fun in florida.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 21, 2008 7:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmmm....maybe I really should make a trip to FL...

just to check it out, you know.

/looks around nervously

So…you say they have good meth down there?

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 22, 2008 10:46 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is there bad meth?

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 22, 2008 11:55 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Of course

just like there’s bad sex, bad heroin, and bad jokes. (notice the excellent set up)

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 22, 2008 12:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought he was in Coldplay.

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2008 7:29 PM CDT