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Pierzynski, Eddings Combine For More Controversy

The circumstances were slightly different, but the principals were the same. AJ Pierzynski, who seems to invent new ways to be reviled by opposing fans, found himself in the middle of yet another bizarre late-inning controversy with his good buddy Doug Eddings, once again culminating in a White Sox victory.

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With the game tied in extras, Pierzynski started the Sox half of the 10th with a routine single. It was the last routine play of the game. On the very next play, Pierzynski caught BJ Upton giving a lackadaisical effort--what are the chances?--on Carlos Quentin's deep fly ball to center field, and was able to take second base on the speedy, strong-armed, though not always game-aware, young center fielder, setting up the controversial play.

Jermaine Dye hit a routine groundball to short, the type of ball that should cause a runner on second base to retreat back towards second. Needless to say, Pierzynski did not retreat. He charged towards third on contact, and didn't reverse course until he saw Jason Bartlett fielded the ball cleanly in front of him. He tried to stay in the ensuing rundown for as long as possible to allow Jermaine Dye to get himself into scoring position, but Dye is slow, and Pierzynski saw an opportunity. That opportunity was named Willy Aybar, Tampa's 3B, who continued to run alongside and eventually passed Pierzynski after he got rid of the ball. Watching over his shoulder Pierzynski saw Aybar release the ball and continue towards second. As soon as he sensed Aybar about to pass him, he stuck out his elbow, gave a little fake turn, and stumbled to the ground as he tried to change directions.

Pierzynski fell to the ground pointing at Aybar, now nearly at second base, and Doug Eddings, who initially called him out, joined in the pointing soon after. Eddings had called interference. Pierzynski was awarded 3rd, Dye 1st, and the Sox still had just one out. On one play the Sox went from what appeared to be a 2-out, runner on first situation, to a soon-to-be (after an intentional walk to Jim Thome) 1-out bases loaded situation, all because Pierzynski had his head in the game.

Although it didn't seem like the right call at first--I know I thought AJ got away with another one--crew chief Ted Barrett defended Eddings call after the game.

"What Doug ruled at second base was, even though A.J. did kind of stick his arm out to make contact, Aybar was still in his way, so A.J., if he would have turned, he wouldn't have been able to continue on to third," said third-base umpire Ted Barrett, who addressed the situation after the game. "So after making the throw, Aybar is no longer in the act of fielding and he can't obstruct the runner, which is what Doug ruled happened.

"In a rundown, even though A.J. was going back to second, the rule of obstruction during a rundown is he gets his next advanced base and that's why he was rewarded third base."

In addition to the obvious parallel, this was the second bizarre play involving Eddings this season. He was also responsible for Thome's first steal in a White Sox uniform.

As for the game itself, let's just say it was another game with the Rays. Even though the Rays own the best record in the AL, these two clubs are very evenly matched. Heck even their injuries are similar; while the Rays were missing their 3B, LF, and closer this series, the Sox nearly matched them with their 3B and primary set-up man on the shelf. In 10 games this season (Sox are 4-6), the Sox have scored 37 runs to the Rays 35, with 3 games ending with walk-off hits. Sox starters have out-pitched Rays starter, but not by a huge margin, while Rays relievers have out-pitched their Sox counterparts, though again, not by a huge margin. The main difference between the two clubs has been the Sox complete inability to hit with 2 outs, especially with Runners In Scoring Position.

It looked like that trend would continue Sunday, but at the last possible moment, with 2-outs and a 3-2 in the bottom of the 9th, Paul Konerko would change everything. His pinch-hit single, which plated Brian Anderson from second thanks to a gutsy send by Jeff Cox and an assist from Shawn Riggans, was the first 2-out RISP RBI of the year against the Rays. Let me repeat that, because I don't know if it's clear how futile the Sox have been against the Rays with 2 outs and a runner 180 feet or less from home (.036/.069/.036 entering Sunday's finale). In the first 90 innings against the Rays this season, the Sox had exactly one 2-out hit with RISP, and that hit didn't even plate a run.

So yeah, it was a damn fine wave home by the sure to be wrongfully maligned Jeff Cox. The Sox had an opportunity to tie the game, and he took it. It didn't look pretty, and he needed a poor play by Tampa's catcher to come out smelling like roses. But, hoping for back-to-back 2-out hits with RISP didn't seem like a winning proposition for a team who managed just two such hits in 10 games against the best the AL East has to offer.

Alexei Ramirez had the game-winning hit, which was overshadowed by AJ's play and the unlikely end to the season long 2-out drought against the Rays.

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One tough series off the clock, Sox still in first.

Coffee is for closers.

by vince_ on Aug 24, 2008 11:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Its nice to be in first

I wish the lead would be a little stronger… it is nice to see the Angels are mortal though… Twins lucked out and hit them at the right time it seems

by 815Sox on Aug 25, 2008 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was a huge win...

It was pretty questionable — Cox got big-time lucky on waving BA with Riggans having him dead to rights but dropping the ball and Pierzynski pulled another Dennis the Menace trick out of his hat but the Sox did legitly tie the game up in the bottom of the 9th. I watched the replay of the Pierzynski play and A.J. quite simply did it again — I can’t believe he coaxed that call. Pierzynski simply stuck his elbow out and then fell down like a NFL kicker trying to draw a roughing the kicker call. Is Eddings a Sox fan or what? Maybe an A.J. fan?

I also have to question the stupidity of Maddon IBB’ing Thome to get to Ramirez. I know Thome is a Hall of Famer and you get the force at every base but I think Thome is more likely to strike out or GIDP in that situation than the guy hitting over .300 and who also has speed. Alexei’s swing-happiness was countered by the fact that the bases were loaded so it’s not like the pitcher could risk throwing him all junk outside the zone. Weird move in my opinion.

I was able to catch the rest of this game and before I left for a family party, I was pissed to see that the Twins were beating the Angels 3-1 in the 7th inning. It sure was nice to see that the Angels came back and won it when I got home. Keep losing, Twins.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 24, 2008 11:51 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

for sure...

If I was a caterpillar and you were a caterpillar I would metamorphosize into a butterfly so that you could see the vast potential of your great beauty. And then you would change, and we would have changed. And it would be beautiful. Change is beautiful.

by furby2056 on Aug 25, 2008 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it isn't like they deserve to be there

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 25, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder

How much o time AJ spends reading an MLB rulebook?

Bloggin'

http://bierjournal.blogspot.com/

by Six Pack on Aug 24, 2008 11:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

has a copy next to the hotel room bible every night

"as much as i hate dj i don't want him to get molested"- BuehrleMan

by U-God on Aug 25, 2008 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I clicked on the link from the ALCS game of '05 lore

This little gem was in a comment, thought I’d share it:

Paul made the mistake by rolling the ball. Next year no one will remember the controversy at all.
by Megawatt on Oct 13, 2005 2:25 PM CDT

"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-

by Hazymania on Aug 25, 2008 12:12 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lol awesome

If I was a caterpillar and you were a caterpillar I would metamorphosize into a butterfly so that you could see the vast potential of your great beauty. And then you would change, and we would have changed. And it would be beautiful. Change is beautiful.

by furby2056 on Aug 25, 2008 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

never would have suspected that

Pierzynski could pull off a flop worthy of an Italian soccer player.

vanillablue.wordpress.com

by vanillablue on Aug 25, 2008 12:41 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i don't get it

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 25, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

And also at Liar’s Club on Thursdays

-Defoliant

by IceColdFalstaff on Aug 25, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

another great one

grrrr

vanillablue.wordpress.com

by vanillablue on Aug 25, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa

Shoutout to the Chicago chapter of the AARP

Rob

by IceColdFalstaff on Aug 25, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

must confess

i don’t actually own that Defoliants record. used to have a tape but lost it long ago.

vanillablue.wordpress.com

by vanillablue on Aug 25, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not surprising

I only imported 700 of them into the US. It’s floating around on Soulseek though. (I never ripped mp3s of the LP)

Dig yr blog; you ever read cantstopthebleeding.com?

by IceColdFalstaff on Aug 25, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes, and

the light bulb just went on and I realized who I’m talking to. always enjoyed your Sox posts at CSTB but never put two and two together.

and thanks for the kind words about my very infrequently updated blog. somewhere i have a board tape of you guys playing at Exit in ‘88. if you don’t have it let me know and i’ll send it to you.

vanillablue.wordpress.com

by vanillablue on Aug 25, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well at least i know who they are

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 25, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tomorrow is fucking huge...

If the Sox could get two wins for the price of one. I don’t expect the Twins to lose with their Francisco Liriano @ Miguel Batista matchup — lol, man the Mariners suck.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 25, 2008 12:46 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

get a half game just for playing an inning

and yeah if Liriano gives up more than a two runs over 6, i’ll be surprised.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 25, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i thought buehrle pitched a solid game...

he just can’t seem to pitch around defensive mistakes…but as long as the offense can hit with RISP on a consistent basis…i’ll be happy and so will everybody else…but yeah….jenks continues to have a solid year out of the pen…he seems to struggle in non save situations but can get through it…with the k rate down this year it looks as if he’s trying to pitch to contact more and get quicker outs and it’s working for him….uhhh here’s to beating the shit out of baltimore

If I was a caterpillar and you were a caterpillar I would metamorphosize into a butterfly so that you could see the vast potential of your great beauty. And then you would change, and we would have changed. And it would be beautiful. Change is beautiful.

by furby2056 on Aug 25, 2008 12:49 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the rays got pierzysnki'ed!

aj’ed in the a!

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Aug 25, 2008 2:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A-jizzled in the bizzle?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 25, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A-jizzled, priceless.

excellent work, colintj!

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 25, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

win this one for pablo ozuna

when todays suspended game began pablo was on the roster, so this is his last game with the team. it is also his birthday.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Aug 25, 2008 8:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

for Pablo

"as much as i hate dj i don't want him to get molested"- BuehrleMan

by U-God on Aug 25, 2008 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just saw the replay for the first time this AM.

I think Eddings is, like in “The Godfather”, in KW’s pocket “like so many nickles and dimes”. Gotta be – that was just too obvious.

But you must, must, must love AJ. Let’s see if he sparked something.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 10:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

thank Jah we got the breaks yesterday

seemed like we were going to get jobbed by ex-Twins all weekend (Balfour, Bartlett, and even Torii in LA didnt help). Stole this one.

I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator

by Nordhagen on Aug 25, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

rec'd

thought for sure this would be a WU post

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 25, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't Hyman Roth the shriveled up old coot?

I’d vote for Jim Leyland.

"Carlos is a hit magnet…if Carlos gets hit the way he gets hit, I don't mind. But if he gets hit the way I don't think he should get hit, then it's a problem."- Ozzie Guillen (8/14/08)

by tailgater on Aug 25, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

perhaps jerry reinsdorf.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Aug 25, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woltz is easy

just pick someone who holds some meaningless grudge against someone, but we ultimately shut up

"as much as i hate dj i don't want him to get molested"- BuehrleMan

by U-God on Aug 25, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not bad

i was tryin to think of like a press person or manager or executive, but mariotti, baker, and no executive i could think of really fit

"as much as i hate dj i don't want him to get molested"- BuehrleMan

by U-God on Aug 25, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How are the Sox going to approach tonight's first game?

Have they mentioned who is going to ‘start’? Furthermore, what are the rules as far as the lineup is concerned — if Q started in the three spot in the original game, does he have to start there tomorrow? Because if he doesn’t, I’d love to see Ozzie use Q, Dye and Thome as his top three, hoping for a homer to end the game quickly.

Also, do we re-obtain Pablo and Nick Masset for just this game? I certainly hope so.

by CWSKeith on Aug 25, 2008 10:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the game is continued. can't change the lineup order.

at any rate, quentin will leading off the 12th anyway. carrasco or thornton is who is scheduled to continue. all but jenks from the bullpen are available to pitch. griffey and getz are available. ramirez was taken out so not available.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

for additional clarification, here is the box score from the game.

quentin was still batting low in the order then so he’s leading off in the 6th spot. crede would be next, followed by BA and then uribe who replaced ramirez. obviously crede needs to be replaced. dye did not play so he would be available to pinch hit but i’d posit that it’s more likely that getz hits for him and goes to 2b while uribe slides to third (if there’s a 13th).

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/boxscore.jsp?gid=2008_04_28_balmlb_chamlb_1

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thornton will likely start it off...

Link:

The first three batters due up for the Orioles are Kevin Millar, Aubrey Huff and Luke Scott, who are left-handed. That makes Thornton, a lefty, the likely candidate.

Sucks that the Sox have to face three of their best hitters who are all a threat to homer but gotta win this one.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 25, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the way, Millar is not a lefty...

Nice mistake by MLB.com’s David Just.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 25, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

aubrey huff

was ejected from the game in the top of the 10th inning.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Aug 25, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes. this is why it will more likely be carrasco who starts.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't remember that one...

Agreed on Carrasco then.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 25, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

which is why i linked to the box score...

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

O's without Sherrill too.

Plus Huff, Jones, and Fahey have to be replaced in the lineup.

A Cintron sighting tonight?

I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator

by Nordhagen on Aug 25, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brandon Fahey being in the lineup would help the Sox...

But Huff and Jones being out sure is nice.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 25, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When Q! hits a bomb to win it in 12

that will be wierd boxscore line:

HR: Quentin 2 (6, 37)

I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator

by Nordhagen on Aug 25, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cool though

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 25, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha, that's awesome.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Aug 25, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think what happens (correct me if I'm wrong)

is that it would go down as Quentin 2 (6, 7) and then all the others would be bumped up one. I remember reading something about a similar situation when A-Rod had just hit or was about to hit his 500th home run.

by jeeves on Aug 25, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wet blanket.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Aug 25, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buzz Kill.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll make it up to you

with the zaniness of Japanese television

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KXviPd0fRA

the first one fails, but it’s good thereafter

by jeeves on Aug 25, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At work - prohibited from accessing YouTube.

Speaking of Buzz Kills…

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it Richard again tonight for the Sox?

Or has there been any word on Broadway who I believe had his last start skipped in AAA?

by jeeves on Aug 25, 2008 11:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/index.jsp?c_id=cws

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Richard will start the second game...

Broadway is supposedly on his way up if Wise is indeed headed to the D.L.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 25, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love the first related post to this one:

“We, whitesox fans, often, but this year especially, have a lot of opinions and suggestions to Kenny and Ozzie regarding our lineup, team, and the farm system. In all of those suggestions I never hear anyone mention this crucial point: for us to develop our team we must get rid of Jim Thome.”

Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Aug 25, 2008 11:21 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

only 87 plate appearances until the sox are stuck with that corpse for another year.

christ. a guy who is ranked, like, tenth in the league in OPS. who the fuck would want that? can’t we frank thomas him or something?

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone should want Thome back next year.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 25, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So when you read A Modest Proposal

did you really think Swift wanted the Irish to eat babies?

"as much as i hate dj i don't want him to get molested"- BuehrleMan

by U-God on Aug 25, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

thanks

"as much as i hate dj i don't want him to get molested"- BuehrleMan

by U-God on Aug 25, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I realize that it was sarcasm...

I was addressing anyone who would be stupid enough not to want Thome back.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 25, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 25, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fucking girls had no idea that was coming.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Aug 25, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The question being answered is

“Who here gets a 10 inch bone when discussing Q!?”

Girls = unpossible to relate to the question.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just figured it was a math problem.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Aug 25, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another possibility:

“Who here has slept with colin?”

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

low blow!

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 25, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i see a girl in back raising her hand, as well.

so perhaps it’s “who has beaten colin’s ass?”

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Aug 25, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

She only looks like a girl

“Her” name is Sandy.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

weird thread you guys

but expected

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 25, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank. You.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i meant all of those comments in a "colin in theory" way.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Aug 25, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

colin knows we are pulling his leg from his pelvis.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No boner, but

I do want to pick up a bat and start smashing inanimate objects.

Am I normal?

"Carlos is a hit magnet…if Carlos gets hit the way he gets hit, I don't mind. But if he gets hit the way I don't think he should get hit, then it's a problem."- Ozzie Guillen (8/14/08)

by tailgater on Aug 25, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unless they were previously animate

Then that’s OK, and is more than Chicago Tough.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, any time you suck the life out of something, you are Chicago Tough.

Especially something beautiful.

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 25, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But it's true...

What’s the problem?

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 25, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no problem. you made an observation. i did too.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yikes. I can't wait to dig up the archive of this game so I can see AJ's latest (unless someone else has a link they would like to provide).

And you know what? He should get all the calls in his favor, just for knowing the rules of the game, and capitalizing when others aren’t paying attention.

Paulie with the first 2-out RISP hit against the Rays this season? Who woulda thunk!! (Thanks hitting coach, Griffey!)

I love 1st place. It’s so cozy up in there.

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 25, 2008 11:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Really wish I could catch this continued game

I might have to go out to the bar and grab a beer to see it

by 815Sox on Aug 25, 2008 11:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Matchup: White Sox (74-55) at Orioles (61-68), 7:05 p.m. ET
Probable Starters: Clayton Richard (20 IP, 8.55 RA, 1.75 WHIP, 15 K) vs. Chris Waters (90, 6.20, 1.17, 72—Triple-A)
Pythagorean Record: Chicago, 75-54 (672 RS, 561 RA); Baltimore, 64-65 (664 RS, 669 RA)
Hit List Rankings: Chicago, #4; Baltimore, #17
Prospectus: Before this contest kicks off, the Orioles and White Sox need to finish a game that was suspended back on April 28. At that time, the O’s were 14-11 and the White Sox 14-10, and MVP candidate Carlos Quentin had hit his sixth homer of the young season. The game was suspended after the 11th inning’s conclusion, when both teams had scored one more run to prolong the evening. The White Sox should have won the game much earlier, as they stranded 14 baserunners during the course of the game against the Orioles’ three, and wasted an excellent eight-inning effort from Javier Vazquez (one run, seven strikeouts, one walk). The significance of having this game’s outcome pushed to today is that the White Sox are just half-a-game up on the Twins, and have a chance to gain as much as 1½ games on their rivals if they are able to wrap up the extra-inning game as winners and then take the regularly-scheduled clash as well.

As for the highlighted Preview game, the White Sox send Richard against an Orioles lineup that’s hit very well during the second half. While Richard has performed well on the K/BB front—he has 6.8 strikeouts per nine and just 2.3 free passes per nine over his five appearances in the majors this year—he’s given up an eye-popping 30.7-percent liner rate, which explains the .395 BABIP he’s allowed. There are obviously small-sample issues if you try to draw much from those figures—he has thrown just 20 innings in the majors—but the thing to watch for is whether or not he’s too predictable, either in strategy, or perhaps due to tipping his pitches. As a guy with a sinker and a high-80s fastball and no dominant offering to put hitters away, anything that helps the hitter is going to cause fluky stats, like his 52 percent strand rate and unsightly BABIP.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 11:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i thought he can get the fastball up to 92 or so

and while he may not have a dominant pitch to put hitters away (how many pitchers do?), his 6.8 K’s per nine is just fine, as they note.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Aug 25, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

94.7, IIRC

was the top speed. Like an FM station.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

most major leaguers have at least one secondary offering to at least RHB that

is a veritable strike out pitch.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 25, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Plate"

“His pinch-hit single, which plated Brian Anderson from second . . . . In the first 90 innings against the Rays this season, the Sox had exactly one 2-out hit with RISP, and that hit didn’t even plate a run.”

Please, Cheat, “plate” is only a verb when it refers to a process by which a metal is deposited on a conductive surface.

by Arrow on Aug 25, 2008 11:49 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no it is not

common usage.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 25, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a word

that causes aneurysms over at SportsJournalists.com. Like “trey” for a three-pointer — drives them nuts.

Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Aug 25, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why?

if everyone knows what it means, then you’re communicating. now if that’s not what works for you tonally, fine, but the word-not-a-word discussion begins and ends with “does it have a commonly understood meaning?”

ain’t = word
lol = word
ghjgasgfh = not a word

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 25, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Word understood among the SSS community.

Ok to use ’round herrrre.

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 25, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol makes me die inside

But I think the problem with “trey” and “plate” is they may not stand the test of time. It’s OK in the immediate world of TV, but with the idea of papers of record, they’re viewed as fads. Like using “rad,” “groovy,” etc.

I don’t really care either way. Just sayin’.

Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Aug 25, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Plate" has been around a long, long time.

“Trey” may be around as long as “Wingo”.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

AP style for home run is “home run.” Not homer, blast, bomb, dong, etc.

It took them decades to drop the hyphen from “teenager.” Email is “e-mail.” It’s not website, it’s “Web site.” They play it safe with just about everything, especially stuff resembling slang.

So it isn’t smart for non-paper blogs to adhere to AP style if they want to be known as relevant, immediate, etc.

Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Aug 25, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Times opened up their archive

I’m headed out the door, otherwise I would look up a couple old-timey game recaps to see how well those stood the test of time

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Aug 25, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if the Times is the best way to judge.

They still call people “Mr.” and “Mrs.” upon second reference. They play by their own rules.

But I have a couple of books with old baseball stories. They sure like their local nine, their clouters, their batsmen, their fireballers, etc. They wrote with a lot more flourish — remember Grantland Rice’s craptacular “Four Horsemen” lede?

I bet the media didn’t ratchet it down until the ’50s or ’60s.

Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Aug 25, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn hippies.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

a descriptivist among us!

if you haven’t already, you should read david foster wallace’s take on the issue. he’s decidedly more old school than you appear to be, but it’s a fun read nonetheless if you’re a language nerd.

Tense Present: Democracy, English, and the Wars over Usage

by Ryno on Aug 25, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

already read it

and i largely agree with what he has to say. and it is a really great read.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 25, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

also the

reference to tone was meant to be a caveat representing the notion of proper place for words of all kinds, which is basically what he thinks iirc.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 25, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i go with whatever sense makes me the most right

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 25, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what about in cooking?

You can plate a meal you have prepared

by jeeves on Aug 25, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

uberpwnage.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Aug 25, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm surprised that was the first response

I was fully expecting someone to question my manhood

by jeeves on Aug 25, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

iron chef america = compelling television.

i went to a mario batali restaurant in vegas to see how he do. very impressive.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Aug 25, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But there is one more ingredient to this battle. Our SECRET ingredient.

The theme on which our chefs will deliver their succulent variations.

Why so serious?

by reardenmettle on Aug 25, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 25, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

From what animal does that hail?

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's haggis, by the way.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 25, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn, that was my guess,

or an elephant’s testicle. “Highlander” fan, are you?

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My wife's always bustin' my friggin' haggis.

:) I know that’s what you were thinking, Toonder!

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 25, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not at all. i didn't even know you HAD a wife.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 25, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not many people do.

Surprisingly, you don’t question my possession of haggis….
hmmmmmmmmm.

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 25, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

iron chef is awesome

i wrote the show off sight unseen then I watched it with my mum once, and well, anytime i flip through and it happens to be on, i will be watching…hopefully watching morimoto kicking ass

by jeeves on Aug 25, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correct.

Also, I plate tennis on Saturday — man it was hot.

by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 25, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

haha

awesome, rec’d

by jeeves on Aug 25, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The principal is your pal!

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 25, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Helpful hint:

Never point out your own mistakes. Just edit the original post without telling anyone.

Why so serious?

by reardenmettle on Aug 25, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

:D

Why so serious?

by reardenmettle on Aug 25, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i keep screenshots.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure it's a mistake

I honestly looked it up last night and decided that, while I may be wrong, there was enough vagaries in the secondary definitions of principal that I could get a way with it.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Aug 25, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's not a mistake.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

indeed not

a “the” in front of principals would be nice, though.

by Ryno on Aug 25, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

from Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary (11th ed)

plate vt 4: to cause (as a runner) to score in baseball”

also, “5: to arrange (food) on a plate”

by Ryno on Aug 25, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

merriam webster is at the forefront of the bastardization of the english language. just a terrible source to cite.

grammar police must serve and correct.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa.

This is the most annoying comment of the day.

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 25, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

give ssh some time. it's only noon.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True, true.

Still….this guy’s got the AM covered.

Shows up for the first time in howeverlong just to tell the site’s editor that he is using a word incorrectly (according to him)?

rubbish.

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 25, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

give larry some time. it's only noon.

He might post a picture of an old man sucking himself off.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 25, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think i'll have to defer to your superiority here, ssh.

i’m pretty sure that i’ve never achieved the award for ‘most annoying comment of the day’ while you are the undisputed champion, with a superhuman winning percentage of .947.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i see what you did there

"as much as i hate dj i don't want him to get molested"- BuehrleMan

by U-God on Aug 25, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

love time stamps

"as much as i hate dj i don't want him to get molested"- BuehrleMan

by U-God on Aug 25, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't mean much if you didn't see the post...

There is also lag on the post updating based on your Internet connection.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 25, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You sound like Kenny Williams

making all these excuses

"as much as i hate dj i don't want him to get molested"- BuehrleMan

by U-God on Aug 25, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

kenny williams is a moron. are you saying ssh is a moron?

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I'm not saying

but I might be implying

"as much as i hate dj i don't want him to get molested"- BuehrleMan

by U-God on Aug 25, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever dude...

I bet Masset is throwing 98 MPH for the Reds.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 25, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You act like I was the only one who wanted Jones...

Meanwhile, you didn’t reply to my post about Griffey playing CF.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 25, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you got us there. you and ned.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bullshit.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 25, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes, i know.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you might not have been the only one who wanted jones,

but i’m fairly certain you’re the only one who took kenny’s lack of interest, and the inference that rowand would be a better player than jones this year, as proof that williams is a moron. (and when jones went on the dl after playing like absolute shit, you still said he’d end up having a better year than rowand when he was healthy, iirc). that’s what i’m talking about. the griffey acquisition was puzzling at best and probably much worse. but it’s as if you expect him to never miss. anything else = moron.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 25, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i made up this "kenny is a moron and this proves it" thing?

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 25, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kenny has turned into a complete moron since 2005.

by SSH2005 on Dec 20, 2007 7:58 AM CST

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

might use that for a sig

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 25, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anything you can do I can do better...

(Oops, maybe not.)

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

go for it

doubt there’s anything like that, but if there is i’ll lol

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 25, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't worry, he's just bluffing

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 25, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

two weeks earlier...

But it proves that Kenny is even dumber…
than most people think.
Let’s assume that Kenny is still convinced that the White Sox can compete in 2008, which seems to be a good assumption. Apparently, Kenny thinks that Rowand would be a better acquisition than Jones to compete in 2008. My main point is that Kenny is a moron and this proves it.

by SSH2005 on Dec 5, 2007 10:33 AM CST

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 25, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe I make you guys waste this much time on a message board...

Hilarious.

If Kenny’s team makes the playoffs, I will be happy. But his team is currently neck and neck with a team whose payroll is roughly half of the Sox payroll.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 25, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

red herring alert! red herring alert! red herring alert!

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 25, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

duh.

he’s a twins fan. or is it a cubs fan…?

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not at all...

but when you spend roughly twice as much as your primary competition, you shouldn’t have to be sweating the division.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 25, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

tumblewees sounds funnier

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 25, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

tumblewheeze?

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or the memory of tumblewiz?

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 25, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

(Wiz brightens at the mention,

begins to type a reply, thinks better of it. Tear escapes from a duct. Lets it fall, gently splashing his keyboard. Pushes back from the desk. Crawls 2 feet to his box spring and mattress on basement floor. Curls up. Whimpers.)

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no. that doesn't follow.

you miss the whole thing about how mlb doesn’t pay market value to all their players?

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

only the angels, cubs, twins, d'backs, twins, and rays have good management.

but that’s this year. next season those guys might be right back to being total morons.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 25, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reason #4,562 why "wins per $" is not real useful:

Your current leader in that stat is Florida, as it is every year I expect. Last is the Yankees, as it is every year I expect.

Included in the top 10 are teh Twinnns (of course), Rays and D-Backs, but also the Royals, A’s, Pirates and Orioles.

Bottom 10 includes the M’s and Tigers, but also the Sox, Angels, Red Sox, Mets and Dodgers. The Cubs are 11th “worst”. The Sox are 1 “better” than the Red Sox.

by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 25, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but the cubs and angels aren't sweating their divisions, man.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 25, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Twins are a model franchise re:

financial management, scouting, hiring. Rays just recently became something other than a punching bag. Jerry Colangelo almost bankrupted the D-Backs buying his World Series. A’s – well, we know about BillyBall.

And anyone want to trade places with the last 20 years of Royals/O’s/Bucs tradition?

JR has no problem with KW’s spending. If he does, I’m sure he has a nice chat with KW and sets him straight, or KW’s be on the street.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should cite that my source is Wikipedia,

so it’s gotta be true, right?

Well, either that or false.

by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 25, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ssh is one of those guys who forms opinions and then doesn't change even in the face of new and contrary evidence.

masset couldn’t get above 95 last year. this year, different story.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

http://baseball.bornbybits.com/2008/Nick_Masset.html

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and i can't wait for some missed obvious sarcasm today.

or for some this team sucks because they still aren’t batting in the first inning of the first game of the year because they have the temerity to not bat 1.000.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Sox are Q-awful.

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 25, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

careful larry

not all of us have your vocabulary.

Why so serious?

by reardenmettle on Aug 25, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure we do.

It’s available to all of us. We may not command it as well.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obviously, WU, you weren't included in "us." Nor, ironically, was I.

So I guess it was more of a “them” than an “us.”

Why so serious?

by reardenmettle on Aug 25, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am an outlier on this site, anyway

and it has nothing to do with language.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Entirely your nationality.

Oooh la la! Change is beautiful.......(veers off pathway with bike) Whoa!

by homesickalien on Aug 25, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sundial.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not to evoke a dead horse image...

re: plate as a verb

hoodlight must not be around. Plate is a verb in England meaning fellate.

I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator

by Nordhagen on Aug 25, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Prepare to die inside, Jim:

I bet I know why, too. Has something to do with Africa…

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Missed this: LOL!

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Available Orioles...

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-sp.osnotes25aug25,0,5575436.story?track=rss

Also, the Orioles are converting their first round bust Adam Loewen to an outfielder.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 25, 2008 12:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, that was fast.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 25, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's a painting, not a picture.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is for you, Larry...



"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 25, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm always so happy I read these posts while eating lunch

(Throws up in mouth a little).

"Carlos is a hit magnet…if Carlos gets hit the way he gets hit, I don't mind. But if he gets hit the way I don't think he should get hit, then it's a problem."- Ozzie Guillen (8/14/08)

by tailgater on Aug 25, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

whaddya think's in the burgers?!?

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 25, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dead orioles?

"as much as i hate dj i don't want him to get molested"- BuehrleMan

by U-God on Aug 25, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ftw.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 25, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

to sleep perchance to dream!

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 25, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But what does it symbolize, c?

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Show of hands:

Who’d defend Cox if Riggans makes the tag?

by IceColdFalstaff on Aug 25, 2008 12:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Me

because I was yelling go, go, send him as Brian came to third

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Aug 25, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even though

Zobrist was shallow as hell and setting up before he hit third?

by IceColdFalstaff on Aug 25, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you know, the guy kind of wrote a whole recap of the game.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read it

And enjoyed it. I just don’t buy that many people would be singing Cox’s praises on the basis of the order of events if a routine tag got made. No big deal, much love to the Cheat.

by IceColdFalstaff on Aug 25, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

of course they wouldn't. because people are generally stupid.

they praise bad decisions when they turn out well and criticize good decisions when they turn out badly.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i've been critical of cox before on at least two occasions for taking bad chances,

but that was one he had to take. the sox had one of their less plodding runners on, two outs meant a full head of steam on contact, and the likelihood of another 2-out hit was low. i don’t know much about zobrist’s arm aside from that throw, but it was going to take a hurried throw and perfect catch b/c it wasn’t thome, aj, paulie, or dye running.

"that woman deserves her revenge and we deserve to die."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 25, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was a roll of the dice, what the hell...

Although, if it was close, you know BA wasn’t going to mess up his hair and take out the catcher.

"Carlos is a hit magnet…if Carlos gets hit the way he gets hit, I don't mind. But if he gets hit the way I don't think he should get hit, then it's a problem."- Ozzie Guillen (8/14/08)

by tailgater on Aug 25, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a fair question

since the response will have been tainted by knowing the outcome already.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When, if ever, will BA start over Junior?

Or does Junior keep getting trotted out there due to his “status”?

"Carlos is a hit magnet…if Carlos gets hit the way he gets hit, I don't mind. But if he gets hit the way I don't think he should get hit, then it's a problem."- Ozzie Guillen (8/14/08)

by tailgater on Aug 25, 2008 1:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i'd say it's due to his "offense".

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean the one home run and one double?

"Carlos is a hit magnet…if Carlos gets hit the way he gets hit, I don't mind. But if he gets hit the way I don't think he should get hit, then it's a problem."- Ozzie Guillen (8/14/08)

by tailgater on Aug 25, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

still having trouble with the sample size concept there, old man?

the sox obviously value offense over defense. it’s not really a hard argument to make that griffey is the superior player overall. i could make the other argument, too, but it’s not like the decision you’re discussing is completely stupid or something.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, trotting out the "old man" on 'gater

Almost all of us AARPers are gone – tough environs to compete with the kiddies, TG. And you are not even 50 yet. My condolences.

SSS: We accept no one over 30 as an equal. "Cause you’re stupid and old. Deal. With. It.

(Careful, larry, you might get lucky enough to get to 45+ someday.)

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously.

(rubbing Q! dolls tummy for luck)

by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 25, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

*doll's.

Whew, cops almost got me there.

by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 25, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

soon enough guap

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 25, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Surely, larry's superior brain will someday explode...he'll never see 45.

"Carlos is a hit magnet…if Carlos gets hit the way he gets hit, I don't mind. But if he gets hit the way I don't think he should get hit, then it's a problem."- Ozzie Guillen (8/14/08)

by tailgater on Aug 25, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

After 2 years or so fo posting

I’m not worried about acceptance. But sometimes diversity of opinion and reference point makes for a more interesting read.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

See - I am so secure I can eff up my spelling.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very nice.

Rec’d.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Careful quoting >50 year old men

Might get run over…

“Love and Death”, right? (Google is marvelous.)

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A: Collect underpants
B: ?
C: Profit

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

needs more question marks

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 25, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Example?

Much of the “archaic dogma and superstition” is said with tongue firmly planted in cheek. Yours truly has experienced a great education (and what a price – just ego, but no legal tender) and am appreciative.

Somethin’ for the effort, Fadda?

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm not quite sure what you're looking for.

i was originally referring to tailgater apparently valuing 62 plate appearances with the sox over, say, the 487 total he’s had this year. or that’s what i thought. his argument, if one can call it that, was ill-constructed because it wasn’t clear from his original post – or his ensuring posts – why he thought brian should be starting.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Strictly the "old man" stuff.

I got the point, as perhaps he did. If TG was a goofball forever making idiotic points I might agree with chiding him like that. He isn’t. (Not that he needs protection from me, but as one who gets the “old man” dig all the time, I leap to my peer’s defense.) At least come up with a dig more creative. You are in danger of being a slave to the same notions you critique in others – holding on to stereotypes in the face of contrary information.

That’s what I’m looking for.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i didn't realize the old man "dig" was so offensive or the post so chiding.

i think in that context i would have called just about anyone an old man. and i thought the rather silly statement i made before it was clearly with an implied good humored clearly. sorry.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No problem...I know you're a good-natured

pompous ass. :)

Note smiley face…it means I good-natured as well.

Special thanks to Ugly for having my hunched over back.

Anywho…my point was to simply get some discussion going while we await today’s game(s). No, I don’t do massive research on many of my posts. I would never have the time given my “life situation.” Just throwing it out there, ya know?

By the way, my two little Sox fans started kindergarten today. I gave both of them instructions to take out any kid on the playground in a Cubs hat. Sniff…I’m so proud.

"Carlos is a hit magnet…if Carlos gets hit the way he gets hit, I don't mind. But if he gets hit the way I don't think he should get hit, then it's a problem."- Ozzie Guillen (8/14/08)

by tailgater on Aug 25, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think i got your argument the first time. BA is OPSing something like 1.100 since the ASB and griffey hasn't been great.

you probably meant go with the hot player (double entendre intended); you just didn’t say that. i’m the asshole guy who prefers people say what they mean and mean what they say.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 25, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And it's big fun watching him leg it out...bee-atch.

"Carlos is a hit magnet…if Carlos gets hit the way he gets hit, I don't mind. But if he gets hit the way I don't think he should get hit, then it's a problem."- Ozzie Guillen (8/14/08)

by tailgater on Aug 25, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Paulie? Toby? AJ?

No way. (It’s great having a slow team – so many to choose from.)

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Rangers finally called this guy up...
Rangers purchased the contract of OF Nelson Cruz from Triple-A Oklahoma.
Cruz is 5-for-17 since being activated at Triple-A on Thursday after missing three weeks with a quadriceps injury. So far this season, he is hitting .342 with 37 homers and 99 RBI in just 342 at-bats. His OPS is a solid 1.124. He’ll likely see significant time in right field, and is worth grabbing in AL-only leagues.

Will be interesting to see if he’s figured it out.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 25, 2008 1:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Eddie Guardado to the Twins.

Waits for SSH to blast Williams….

by Tony82087 on Aug 25, 2008 2:02 PM CDT reply