Brushing Up On Radhames Liz

by The Cheat on Aug 27, 2008 2:24 PM CDT

We need a new thread and I wanted an excuse to make Liz jokes.

Liz is your typical big stuff, little command, flyball inducing, minor league strikeout machine. He features a mid-90's fastball and a sharp, but inconsistent slider (think Edwin Jackson), and a show-me chaneup. He found limited success in the O's bullpen last September, and might ultimately end up there long-term. But for now, he's in the 0's rotation, back from a 4 start stint in AAA, giving up too many free bases and too many HRs on his fastball.

Colin can add to this if he'd like. I just wanted a new thread

[Note by The Cheat, 08/27/08 2:38 PM CDT ] Because of lagging site values since the loss of Wiz to the wolves in his mother's basement--we're down over 50% according to dnScoop--I've upgraded Colin to Editor. And because we all know that Colin won't be up to the task, I thought I should give him some help. So without consulting them, I've upgraded our most rec'd posters, The Actual El Guapo and thecip, all the way from the mailroom to the executive suites.

[Update by Colin, 08/27/08 4:00 PM CDT]

I said below that Jackson is a good comp, but it looks like his extended tour in the majors has given him the relative polish that Liz lacks. Against righties, Liz hasn't thrown even 50% of his sliders for a strike. This is the inconsistency Cheat referred to. More updates possibly to come.

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i don't think i have editing powers on this

i went to the editorial dash and couldn’t get to the edit tool.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 27, 2008 2:28 PM CDT 0 recs

Ok...

I’ll upgrade you

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Aug 27, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up 0 recs

It's time to upgrade, fuck save, time to load

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 27, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up 0 recs

edwin jackson is a really great comp, Cheat

he comes up second on the similarity scores on the Kalk player cards. i’m guessing his slider isn’t as good and he’s had major major control issues so far in the majors. his K rate has declined rather than sustained itself after every level, which for one means he’s not going to have dominant stuff and also indicates he’s very fastball reliant (as Poreda showed, you can go a long ways on a big fastball). i’m training for work atm (on break) and i’ve got book club tonight, so i’m not sure if you’ll get anymore than this anyway.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 27, 2008 2:31 PM CDT 0 recs

otoh, i just got an extended break thanks to something or other, so let's see if i can slam it out

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 27, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up 0 recs

Now your edit is gonna erase my edit.. I'll just put it in the comments... here

[Note by The Cheat, 08/27/08 2:38 PM CDT ] Because of lagging site values since the loss of Wiz to the wolves in his mother’s basement—we’re down over 50 according to dnScoop—I’ve upgraded Colin to Editor. And because we all know that Colin won’t be up to the task, I thought I should give him some help. So without consulting them, I’ve upgraded our most rec’d posters, <a href="http://www.southsidesox.com/users/The20Actual20El20Guapo" >The Actual El Guapo and thecip, all the way from the mailroom to the executive suites.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Aug 27, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up 0 recs

I sense a sinking ship...

Who’s alive? OK, you now are a General! Take that hill, or I’ll make someone else a General!!!!

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 27, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up 0 recs

i was totally going to rec TAEG get bumped

cip is obvs awesome too

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 27, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up 0 recs

My review...

Radhames Liz sucks balls and the Sox should rock his ass.

The end.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 27, 2008 2:34 PM CDT 0 recs

I've heard this story before

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 27, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up 0 recs

colin

I love him and his almost gingerness

Ground ball to first, and the White Sox have won the Pennant!

by beanohatesthecubs on Aug 27, 2008 2:36 PM CDT 0 recs

not even almost yo

the hair is only sorta red

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 27, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up 0 recs

thecip

He should do a weekly photoshop story with the week’s best offerings.

MrROFL.com

by shaftr on Aug 27, 2008 2:48 PM CDT 0 recs

Thats a good idea

Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."

by thecip on Aug 27, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up 0 recs

There’s lots of available talent to fill in the editorial positions, bros. Rumor has it Jay Mariotti is looking for an world wide supra highway landing spot.

by baby_jamie on Aug 27, 2008 2:55 PM CDT 0 recs

No joke

I sent him an email, offering him a position at a “popular chicago website”

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Aug 27, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up 0 recs

That's awesome

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 27, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up 0 recs

But Cheat...

I already work for you.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 27, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up 0 recs

I got that email too,

and I showed up at the designated spot, wearing the “required uniform” (as the email put it). When approached, I said “hi I’m Kathy” — again as instructed — but from that point, the “interview” went differently than I thought it would.

Exactly what kind of outfit are you running here anyway, Cheat?

by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 27, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up 0 recs

Holy crap ... the pressure. Can't handle. The pressure. Quick. Say something funny. Or useful ... yeah, useful. Wait. I don't know anything useful. So funny ...

Horse goes into a bar … Uribe fat … Griffey hurt/bad/broken … WU old … fisting … ErstadErstadPuntoPuntoErstad … TRYTHEVEALDRIVESAFELYGOODNIGHT!

by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 27, 2008 3:02 PM CDT 0 recs

It's a damn shame the nerves got to him

cause that boy had talent.

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 27, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up 0 recs

His new name is Joe Borchard's Football Mentality

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Aug 27, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up 0 recs

Octavio Dotel's 1 Run Lead

by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 27, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up 0 recs

Is this Dave Chapelle?

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 27, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up 0 recs

larry fuming his BP previews don't get more recs

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 27, 2008 3:09 PM CDT 0 recs

larry prefers to post at his leisure, I'd wager.

Expect nothing, get everything. I know his type. No one, dammit, NO ONE expects anything from larry and gets it, unless they pony up $400/hour. Or a pair of parted lips.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 27, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up 0 recs

a picture is worth 1000 recs

Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."

by thecip on Aug 27, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up 0 recs

I also hear Liz throws a heavy sinker

And a curve where the bottom drops out.

Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Aug 27, 2008 3:26 PM CDT 0 recs

Nice.

And on her anniversary, to boot.

Hey, Paulie! AGGRHHHHHHburpp.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 27, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up 0 recs

and liz is fucking huge

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 27, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up 0 recs

I bet you'd hit it.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 27, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up 0 recs

get me spiderman!

Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."

by thecip on Aug 27, 2008 3:27 PM CDT 0 recs

Liz was one of the monsters in Rampage

Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."

by thecip on Aug 27, 2008 3:30 PM CDT 0 recs

Is the red one sad?

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 27, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up 0 recs

Rampage...

http://www.virtualnes.com/play/?id=NES-RP&s=8

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 27, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up 0 recs

joe cowley cancer, mariotti free

Update from Cowley
By Joe Cowleyon August 27, 2008 1:34 PM | Permalink | Comments (0) | TrackBacks (0)
Good news does come in threes. We had the baby last week, and I found out on Wednesday that the melanoma I was diagnosed with last month did not get into the lymph nodes, making me cancer free once again. Add to the fact that a certain highly over-rated columnist has taken his ball and gone home, well, the Cowley family is certainly blessed these days.

I’ll be back to work on Monday in Cleveland, and looking forward to finishing the White Sox season out on a strong note. Thanks for all the thoughts and prayers.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 27, 2008 3:55 PM CDT 0 recs

in the age of blogging

professional sports “journalists” are going to need to find ways to remain relevant. using their press credentials to report on clubhouse affairs is one way. muckraking for the sake of whipping up shit is not. hence cowley has a job and mariotti is applying for an intern position at streetwise.

by explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit on Aug 27, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up 0 recs

what, you think espn isn't going to be first in line to hire him.

mariotti is going to do just fine. smart to jump from the sinking (sunk?) ship of a second tier newspaper in the second city.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 27, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up 0 recs

people with his profile don't usually jack

without having something else lined up.

Sox fan from England, marching on together

by hoodlight on Aug 27, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up 0 recs

mariotti is to sports journalism as henry blodgett is to securities analysis.

that is my prediction.

by explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit on Aug 27, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up 0 recs

he's not a journalist. he's a columnist. or, in the newfangled media world, a pundit. and, as ssh aptly explained below, is one of the best in the business.

there is certainly not one commentator who gets more discussion in chicago – including on this board – than jay.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 27, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up 0 recs

his future in mainstream media will be determined by his fellating skills or degrees of familial separation to tom skilling.

the espn side gig was only because he is a muckraker for a second city rag, to which he can no longer make such a claim.

do i blame him for jumping ship? certainly not, but i think the odds of him finding a soft landing are low.

by explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit on Aug 27, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up 0 recs

as noted above, guys like mariotti don't jump from 3 year contracts they just signed a couple months ago if the chances of a soft landing weren't extraordinarly high.

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 27, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up 0 recs

Jay's personal future has never been brighter.

We’ll still have plenty of opportunity to rail at his crap – it probably won’t be as focused on the Sox/Chicago teams as before. Jay’s bad – he’s nationwide. So at least he’ll be diluting his crap amongst more states.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 27, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up 0 recs

i was sort of shocked he'd signed on for another three years with the s-t.

in part because they aren’t going to last another three years and jay is smart enough to know that. maybe he was just buying some time and leverage (smart). it appears somebody got to him in china. [insert joke]

"Suck it up Bunky, we gotta go.'" - ron gardenhire

by larry on Aug 27, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up 0 recs

You'll note that the SEC just signed a deal with ESPN for $2.25B

this week. The Mouse doesn’t throw $ around, but it has plenty to spread around. And Jay-bird has guest-hosted PTI enough times to maybe do a fair test run of his “likability” quotient in that setting.

I’d be shocked if he’s not with ESPN or an offshoot already. There are at least 2 former Orlando Sentinel columnists who are writing for the ESPN Website already. And as you mentioned, the S-T is dead, as is most traditional print media, and layoffs are rampant at the Trib (no leverage, ala Royko, to go across town).

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 27, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up 0 recs

PTI, I don't think so

He’s persona non grata around there

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Aug 27, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up 0 recs

An example, only. Just making a comparative statement.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 27, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up 0 recs

agree. look for him on the hit show the surreal life posing as dwight gooden's main antagonist.

by explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit on Aug 27, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up 0 recs

This is why I don't get why people get so mad at Mariotti...

It’s exactly what he wants you to do. It’s how he made his career. He is a shock journalist, just like Howard Stern is a shock jock. Even Mariotti probably doesn’t believe in the bullshit he writes or says. He is just trying to create controversy. Obviously, it worked and he will have a new job very soon.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 27, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up 0 recs

rumor is

jay is gonna start writing for boston.com

I almost feel sorry for them

Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."

by thecip on Aug 27, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up 0 recs

Wow! This is a big day in SSS history. With gas prices so high, it's not surprising that the site's value is suffering. Damn petrol.

Also, I don’t want to blame this entirely, but things haven’t quite been the same since 9/11.

AEG and Cip – Congrats! Both deserving.
Colin – try not to abuse the power.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Aug 27, 2008 4:46 PM CDT 0 recs

One more thing - does anyone else refer to Liz as "Radio Radhames?"

Because I can’t help but crave Public Enemy every time I see that name.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Aug 27, 2008 4:47 PM CDT 0 recs

by homesickalien on Aug 27, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up 0 recs

Oh but I do - on my little music device pictured below. Doesn't stop me from wanting a boom box on my shoulder, dammit!

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Aug 27, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up 0 recs

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Dodgers designated infielder Pablo Ozuna for assignment.
Ozuna was 3-for-18 in five weeks with the Dodgers, but the bigger problem was that he didn’t bring enough to the table defensively. Still, it’s a surprise that the Dodgers are cutting him now when they could have simply waited until Sept. 1 to bring back Blake DeWitt. It’s definitely a sign of desperation.

Remember when the Dodgers were acting like Ozuna was a big pickup? Yeah…

Please don’t pick him back up, Kenny.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 27, 2008 4:53 PM CDT 0 recs