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The Headline Says FIGHT!

But Sox real battle is with Twins

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John Kruk made a good point on the early edition of Baseball Tonight. There's a sentence I didn't think I'd ever be typing. He argued that the better teams--those in contention for the post-season--are at a disadvantage when a bean ball war looks to be breaking out, with his point being that contending clubs are more reticent to have their players suspended.

We could probably host a lively debate on whether the pitches that DJ Carrasco threw were intended to hit Miguel Olivo. Joe Cowley and Mark Gonzales think the Sox and Royals have some history. I'd argue that down 6-0 with the bases loaded isn't exactly the type of spot you start throwing at people. And if we were to judge by Ozzie Guillen's reaction, the plunking certainly wasn't called from the bench.

Back to the point at hand, my first thought as soon as Olivo started charging the mound was "F@#%! Suspensions and ejections are the last thing we need right now." From the actions of all of the Sox players, they had exactly the same thing on their minds. AJ Pierzynski, who's not exactly know for his calming influence, immediately rushed to defuse the cocked-and-loaded Olivo. Though he eventually took a roundhouse from Olivo to the top of the head. Brian Anderson, who was seen throwing absolute haymakers last time the Sox had a similar incident, ran in from the bench not with arms cocked ready for a fight but with both arms extended trying to stop the fracas. To a man, the Sox were looking to avoid the undesirable consequences that come along with releasing some frustration in the form of pugilistics.

The Sox know they're in a pennant race. They know that they need everyone healthy and on the field for the remaining 50+ games. They're not going to risk getting saddled with league-mandated downtime on the Royals. The Twins? Sure. The Tigers or Indians? Probably. But the Royals? No way. They're not worth the effort.

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You could almost see Nick Swisher going through those exact thoughts in his his head just after being plunked in the hip by a 94 MPH Zack Grienke fastball.

That Pokemon-lovin' paper boy just hit me with a baseball. I'm gonna run out there and show him exactly how I got the name Dirty 30.

But, you know, my playing time is going down as it is with Griffey on the team. And he's gonna get injured if he comes running in to help. If both of us are out, Konerko's definitely gonna be in the lineup. I should probably just stay right here, and damn did that hurt.

F'n Royals! Don't they know we don't care about them?

I'm sure the Royals will have next week's series at USCF circled on their calendars. It's not like they have anything else to look forward to this season. But the Sox, who now sit in second place for the first time since May 16th, which, note to Hawk, is much less than 105 days ago, have much bigger goals than getting even with the freakin' Royals.

I'll be interested to see how the media plays today's game as the season draws to a close. I have a feeling we'll be hearing about how Gardenhire's smart ejection last week helped spark the Twins run, while the incompetently volatile Ozzie Guillen has lost control of his team as they slip into second place.

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Be sure to scroll down, as the unusually prolific Cheat chimes in on possible reinforcements for the ailing pitching staff.

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just to add a small note, i think it's joe "who else" cowley who confused hawk with some math.

With a Twins win tonight, first place is gone for the Sox after holding it for 104 days this season. 04:58 PM August 02, 2008

http://twitter.com/cst_sox

by larry on Aug 3, 2008 8:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

they *have* held it for that many days, but not in a row.

Hawk and SSH need to stop pretending like mid-May was 3 1/2 months ago.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Aug 3, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Twins 'Announcers'

Were suffering from the same confusion (at least earlier in the week).

Optimist

by Peder on Aug 3, 2008 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Today was awesome

Woke up, got breakfast, drank a bunch of coffee and sat down to watch the game. And after 1 inning the coffee hit in at the same time as Clayton Richard—so I cleaned the bathroom, the kitchen, the living room, took the trash and recycling out and then sat down to watch the Sopranos.

And the game still hadn’t ended. So all that time I could have watched a win or a close loss I saved and got like the whole fucking house cleaned.

Thanks Sox.

by madvillian on Aug 3, 2008 9:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ot - some awesome pics


http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/08/the_large_hadron_collider.html

[from http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/08/02/1237251]

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Aug 3, 2008 10:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

science porn!

(fap fap fap)

Property of: PAUL KONERKO Track and Field Academy & Steakhouse

by thecip on Aug 4, 2008 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HADRONS EVERYWHERE

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 4, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not my field, but that is pretty fucking sweet

and really fucking expensive

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 4, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When that turns on the world will explode yargghhhhhh

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 4, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that explains jose's recent pitching problems

why bother? it will all be over rather quickly

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Aug 4, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow, didnt know it was that close to completion.

I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die? Why do they come to me to die?"

by omnipotent grab on Aug 4, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Best weekend series ever

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 3, 2008 11:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Visitor from Royals' board here...

I found it interesting that you all are agreeing with Kruk while our board is ripping him.

His logic makes it seem like all of the teams not in playoff contention are outlaws—going around firing baseballs at batters every time they have a chance to retaliate.What do the Royals care? They aren’t winning anything this year. I bet they sharpen their spikes and go wiping out middle infielders any chance they get. The rumor is they’re looking at trading for that minor league kid who fired a ball into the stands last week. They’re all probably using corked bats too. Rules, schmules when you’re not competing!!!!!

Honestly, team records have nothing to do with retaliation/charging the mound.

Plus, Kruk doesn’t even know the standings, but whatever.

Here’s a thought for any pitcher—-don’t throw near a guy’s head three times in a row, and you won’t have to worry about being in a brawl. Also…Olivo has only been hit three times this year….all courtesy of the White Sox.

If you all don’t care about the Royals, fine. But I doubt the Royals will circle the series with you guys next week on the calendar as much as you think. We’ve got Boston and Minnesota to deal with first. If you all want to start something up, fine. But our guys are probably done with it.

As for the brawl, it does seem odd timing for the beanball. But three straight up and in is awful interesting, to say the least. I can’t say I blame Olivo, but I’m not sure it was intentional by Carrasco, either.

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 4, 2008 12:16 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I know it's difficult concept to understand, given that the Royals have played meaningful games past the All-Star break once (twice?) since the Reagan Administration

It must be a tough concept to grasp that the White Sox have no desire to lose player-games on a petty, stupid beanball war and a serial mound-charger.

How very ad hominem of you, attacking Kruk’s argument based on the silly notion that he doesn’t know what the standings are. I get it. You’re so clever. Kruk is dumb and incapable of keeping track of the complex baseball standings. And let’s add to the ad hominem by extending his argument to the most illogical extremes to make your point. Yeah, he was clearly (in the most SSS use of the term) saying that the Royals and Mariners of the world are pistol-wielding marauders out to get all those poor teams with better records.

Kruk’s point, and honestly I really can’t figure out why this is so hard to grasp, is that player-games are more valuable to the White Sox (.5 games back of the Twins) than they are to the Royals. The White Sox are going to think twice before doing anything stupid. The Royals, well, we saw Olivo…

Spelling it out further… What happens to the Royals when Olivo is suspended (AGAIN)? What would happen to the Sox would Pierzynski get a 5-day rip? Certainly, it’s far more detrimental to the Sox to have a week full of Toby Hall behind the plate while trying to catch/keep pace with the Twins than John Buck behind the plate while the Royals fight the Indians for the AL Central cellar.

And in the event of warnings, and worse possible preemptive pregame warnings, being issued, which team has more to lose should any pitcher intentionally or unintentionally hit a batter, prompting immediate ejection and automatic suspension? The answer should be obvious, yet here I am explaining it at 1 AM.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Aug 4, 2008 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

um. yeah i know his point.

Hey just a little joke there. Take it easy.

I know his point. You didn’t have to spell it out.

Of course losing players to suspension is worse for Chicago. It’s his thought that “the rules the way they are now,” as he put it…are somehow hindering the good teams and giving the bad teams an advantage. Yeah, KC can lose a player and it’s not ruining their playoff chances. But that’s not some tactical advantage or aggregious aspect of the game that deserves a two-minute rant that he gave. He made it sound like we shouldn’t even schedule games where the contending teams are playing the non-contenders, which is about as ludicrous as the time he claimed Randy Johnson could win 30 games in a season.

And he doesn’t know the standings. He called KC a “last place team.” That is not correct. Usually it is….but not now. Don’t know what your point is on that.

And Olivo is not a “serial mound charger,” despite what you claim. This is only time this season. I’m guessing you’re referencing the incident last year with Jose Reyes. Unless Jose Reyes became a pitcher sometime last season without my knowledge…..Olivo did not charge the mound.

Anyway, enjoy the season…and lighten up a bit, man. Also, on an unrelated note…..do you want Ross Gload back? He’s on pace to have a historically bad OPS+ for a first baseman (worst since 1978 and in the bottom ten since WWII)....but he can field a little bit. We’ll accept Ozzie’s used lineup card in return. Or Paul Konerko. Whatever is worth less right now.

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 4, 2008 3:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only if you guys take Sisco back.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 4, 2008 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fernando vina's a twat

i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry

by furby2056 on Aug 4, 2008 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fernando Vina Rules!

I love how you guys seem to think the White Sox are some superior, historic franchise. You’ve won what… 1 world series in the last 85 years or so? Gee, that’s the same number of championships the Royals have! And just one more note of interest: since the end of June the Sox are exactly .5 games better than the Royals which means you pretty much suck just as bad. Sad thing is… that means we’re improving and your team is getting worse. Let me know how the time machine you have to take junior back 10 years so he’s worth a shit works for you.

by Gload-zilla on Aug 4, 2008 8:21 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's a shame that the entire season counts towards a team's record for your argument...

Meanwhile, the Royals have had one over. 500 season in the past 14 years. That is an embarrassment to baseball.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 4, 2008 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

weak…. get used to living in the past because the Sox are goin’ nowhere this year as they continue to slip in the standings. They’re a joke. The thing is, Royals fans KNOW their team is a joke but continue to hold on to that hope of a better day. You guys still think you’re awesome! Bottom line: The Royals and White Sox can get together and watch the post season together this year because neither team is making it there.

by Gload-zilla on Aug 4, 2008 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So if the White Sox are a joke what does that make the Royals?

If the Royals finish even lower than the White Sox this season, shouldn’t you guys be even more depressed than Sox fans? You probably didn’t even witness the last time your team won a World Series.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 4, 2008 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was young but did witness the ‘85 series. In response to your question: the White Sox are supposed to be good. The White Sox are supposed to win. The Royals are supposed to finish in last place, which we may very well still do… but there were no expectations for this year (or any other year recently). Yes, it sucks… but we don’t fool ourselves with dreams of grandeur. I’d have to think a White Sox fan would be more depressed over losing the division than a Royals fan when we finish last. We’re used to it.

by Gload-zilla on Aug 4, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where have you been?

The Sox were supposed to be a third - possibly fourth - place team this year…

Tigers
Indians
White Sox / Twins
Twins / White Sox
Royals

Don’t you remember any preseason projections? And as a Sox fan, I am much happier that the Sox won it all in 2005. Meanwhile, the Royals haven’t done anything of note since 1985… twenty years earlier. And I bet your were about 5 years old when the Royals actually did win that World Series.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 4, 2008 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not only that, but I haven't forgotten my entire life of watching the Sox lose prior to, and after 2005...

I understand becoming the “hunted” after your team wins something…but I certainly don’t think any of us Sox fans feel high and mighty (nor expect to win) simply because we won in the last few years.

We at SSS don’t need other teams’ fans to visit the site to tell us the Sox suck…I think we all do a fine job of that on our own. We’re like the Paul Konerko of sports blogs.

Thanks for poppin’ in though.

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Aug 4, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hear ya...

Paul Konerko of sports blogs… I like that! And I was 9 when they won it in ‘85, but SSH was close. Good luck the rest of the way guys and thanks for the 38 hits in two days! A franchise record!!!

by Gload-zilla on Aug 4, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Enjoy the highlight of the season.

Pitching, defense and health.

by ballyb on Aug 4, 2008 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tallest midget in the circus

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does everyone over there have an avatar of a smiling dude with a goatee?

Small sample, but an observation nonetheless.

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Aug 4, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's like he's saying 'get me the fuck out of here'

i think it would be pretty sweet if ssh's kid and kenwo's kid had offspring together...whether you believe in nature or nurture, it wouldn’t be boring.-larry

by furby2056 on Aug 4, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did anyone hear Ozzie's comments after the game?

He isn’t defusing anything. He basically inferred that this HBP way is not over by saying that the Sox face the Royals a lot more.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 4, 2008 8:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Here is it...

Link:

“This time they kicked our [rears],” Guillen said after the loss knocked the Sox out of first place in the AL Central for the first time since May 16. They are a half-game behind the Twins.

“But be ready for the warning because I signed a five-year deal with this club, and we’re going to play Kansas City a lot. I don’t say be careful. They played with fire, and I respect everyone on the pro level. But enough is enough.”

Sounds like he’s trying to get suspended.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 4, 2008 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

way = war.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 4, 2008 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Royals series in Chicago 2 weeks ago

we got hit 5 times in 3 games and Dye got hurt with the last one.

Seems excessive.

Pitching, defense and health.

by ballyb on Aug 4, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and

wasnt their some shit about how greinke purposely wanted to hit AJ earlier this year, and he said so on a radio show?

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Aug 4, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but who doesn't want to hit AJ?

Isn’t that assumed throughout MLB?
:)

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Aug 4, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh Royals fans...

What an illustrious history they’ve had since Schuerholz skipped town on them.

by Craig Grebeck on Aug 4, 2008 8:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, we can always make them feel better

By trading Jermaine Dye for Neifi Perez. Although I think Neifi’s out of baseball.

I CAN'T STAND IT.
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Aug 4, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neifi finished strong for them that year...

.241/.277 /.302 with a .197 EQA and 49 OPS+

by Craig Grebeck on Aug 4, 2008 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neifi was actually busted for using PED's, wasn't he?

Hahahahahaaa.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 4, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Poreda pitched well last night...

Struck out seven against no walks and four hits in seven shutout innings. Link gave up three runs and blew the game.

Ely threw six scoreless with 5K/0BB and four hits.

Couple other well-pitched games in the lower levels as well.

http://firstinning.com/daily/chw

by Craig Grebeck on Aug 4, 2008 9:02 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I almost want to compliment you on your defense of the Sox

and circling the wagons when under attack from KC (how scary is that, though our fans did beat up their first base coach). However, I’ll temper my enthusiasm by postulating that you like to fight, and this gives you an good outlet that is socially redeemable on this site.

As long as you are trained on an outside target, fire away, man.

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

clockwork

how did i know some Royals Review jokes would come over here and post after that brawl. all pre-season, i remember people posting about that site sayign that they talked about the sox just as much as they talked about their own team. why do they care about the sox so much anyway? i could give two shits what the royals do.

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Aug 4, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, and has anyone seen

what the mighty andy gonzalez has been doing this year for the indians…. god i miss seeing him in the lineup every day…....

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Aug 4, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's embarrassing that the Indians don't have anyone else to play over Andy G.

just like it was for the Sox.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 4, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps it's a defense mechanism at work

but who the hell was andy gonzalez and where did he play for us?

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 4, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My favorite part

is his idea that this site is filled with nothing but Sox praise. Most posters here have been bracing for the ceiling to fall in all season. I guess if you’re stuck rooting for a joke team you take your pleasure where you can.

Optimist

by Peder on Aug 4, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's pretty much what I was getting at with Gload-love up there...

We are our own biggest/toughest critics and we don’t let a loss go by without tying the knots in our nooses. I definitely do not frequent this site for the positivity. hehehehehehee.

I love being a Sox fan…even when we are banging our heads against a wall. Mmmmm, agony is delicious.

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Aug 4, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lopsided record

KC is 46-78 against the Sox since ‘02. I kinda hate the teams that own us, too. And I say that with no Gloading (er, gloating).

I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator

by Nordhagen on Aug 4, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oakland?

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Aug 4, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope those tough guy Royals really show us the cut of their jib

by absolutely murdering the Twinkies.

"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)

by tailgater on Aug 4, 2008 11:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not allowed

Almighty scrappy-doo Twinkies will destroy the Royals.

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 4, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean like the Sox were suppose to do?

"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)

by tailgater on Aug 4, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

One team has a parade already scheduled, the other is trading for Ken Griffey.

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 4, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sr. or Jr.?

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 4, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i like royals fans trolling this site and talking shit.

it’s like a real life version of revenge of the nerds.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Aug 4, 2008 11:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's like playing with your retarded cousin

Gets old in a hurry – give me a real challenge. A real headcase.

(Insert my name here.)

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

like letting someone who sucks beat you in basketball until they begin to talk shit and then you destroy them.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Aug 4, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

all because you felt sorry for them in the first place

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Aug 4, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So now it's time for the "destroy" part on the field.

We can handle ourselves on this site. Our team needs to take care of business between the lines.

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This Gload-zilla guy is a winner...

Link:

As sad as it is…
Meche and Guillen are our two "highest profile" fa signings ever. However, it’s at least a step in the right direction isn’t it? Ya know… from the likes of Santiaog and Mientkiewicz to Meche and Guillen to…. I don’t know.. SOMEONE worth a shit? By the way… Gload had the game winning hit in a game of MLB 2K8 I played on xbox360 last night! How much more proof do you need???? He’s awesome!

by Gload-zilla on Aug 4, 2008 8:30 AM CDT

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 4, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clap your hands everybody,

and everybody clap your hands. We’re Lambda Lambda Lambda and Omega Mu. We come here on stage tonight to do our show for you. We got a rockin rhythm and a hi-tech sound that’ll make you move your body down to the ground. We got Poindexter on the violin, and Lewis and Gilbert will be joining. We got Booger Presley on the mean guitar and a rap by little ol’ me Lamar. We got Takashi beating on his gong, the boys and the mu’s are clapping along. And just when you thought, ya seen it all, along comes a Lambda four foot tall. So won’t ya come on out here on the floor, so we can move our bodies, like never before.

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Aug 4, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, good stuff.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 4, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i had almost forgotten how much i hate that movie.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Aug 4, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whaaa?

It’s a classic.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 4, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MM doesn't like seeing brains win over braun. Or pretty girls favoring dweebs.

Hits too close to home.

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Aug 4, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, that movie really captured a generation.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Aug 4, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Braun = Ryan Braun?

Or “Brawn”?

HSA, you call yourself a writer?

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hell no. That's why I work in a corporation.

hahaha. Yes, Ryan Braun of course.

No, like the paper towel.

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Aug 4, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good - use it to clean up your spelling mess

And use it again (in a metaphorical sense) to wipe your Dad’s chin as he drools off to sleep tonight. ;)

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know, I only used one sheet and I was able to clean up my spelling mess and rinse some blueberries.

Thanks, WU!
(thumbs up)

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Aug 4, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ignore him. he's not really your uncle, I lied to you.

he’s just some mean OPOS!!!!

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 4, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

OPOS = mean/cranky. No need to be redundant.

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

questioning my entire identity...

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Aug 4, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

huh?

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 4, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh man

I get away for a weekend and come back to Royal fans talking smack? What in the world…. Those goofballs have been yapping all year, enjoy 4th place.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Aug 4, 2008 11:46 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah!

and we’ll enjoy 3rd…..

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Aug 4, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I forgot

The world is over as we know it, the Sox played bad and the season is lost!

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Aug 4, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you know it.

hahahah its just annoying that it seems like the twins havent had a bad stretch this year, and then we have the red sox, yankees, and even think the rays again coming up still and we cant beat the royals…. we just need to start playing .500 on the road soon. 9-19 on the road the last 28 isnt so hot.

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Aug 4, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our pitching staff looks terrible right now...

the Twins added Liriano to their already good pitching staff. Even though it was the lowly Indians, Liriano was still lights-out yesterday. The Sox rotation better start nutting up and stop pitching like the Felix Diaz’s of the MLB or the Twins lead is going to grow.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 4, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

absolutely untrue

Liriano was not lights-out. I listened to the game on the radio while driving through Minnesota yesterday, and he got into a lot of trouble. He worked himself out of a lot jams, yeah, but he was hardly the dominant Liriano from two years ago.

Why so serious?

by reardenmettle on Aug 4, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

96 pitches, 6.0 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 3 BB, 5 SO...

That’s a 1.00 WHIP outing in his first game back. I sure wish Sox starters could have such mediocre outings. If any Sox starter could do that, we would be creaming our pants right now.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 4, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody said it was not good or mediocre

But you implied he was blowing hitters away, which he wasn’t. That is what would scare me to death. Most times his fastball topped out at 91.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Aug 4, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would have been interesting if Poreda had gotten the call over Richard...

to see what he could do.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 4, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still like Richard

Even though he has work to do. He definitely has confidence issues, esp when runs score. With the way Logan has looked I have come around on whether Poreda should be given a shot now. Uh yes.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Aug 4, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When you just look at the line, it looks a lot better than it was.

A team with patient hitters probably would have wiped the floor with Liriano yesterday afternoon.

Why so serious?

by reardenmettle on Aug 4, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh wrong

Not arguing Liriano won’t help, but I watched some of that game yesterday and he was not light out.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Aug 4, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The pitching does have to obviously improve though

But they are a different at home. We’ll see.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Aug 4, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

liriano was pretty mediocre.

but, as the broadcasters were saying, comparing him to 06 liriano is not a good idea. comparing to livan is what should be done. his velocity still isn’t there and his control was poor. he sure as shit isn’t the ace SSH was choking on yesterday.

by larry on Aug 4, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you referring to the 20 comments he made yesterday with the word "liriano" in it?

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Aug 4, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will take that mediocrity...

over all five starters in the Sox rotation.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 4, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

liriano over john danks right now?

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Aug 4, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

utter nonsense

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Aug 4, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But, but, but,

the CBS Sportsline headline says he was “Sparkling”!

Maybe they meant it literaly.

by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 4, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

although, i dont know if detroit will "catch" us....

theyre bullpen makes ours look great lately…...

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Aug 4, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least our deposed closers don't cry

fer Chrissakes. Detroit ist tot.

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure the Sox will make it interesting

"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)

by tailgater on Aug 4, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For folklore and ESPN 2 rerun purposes

at least the Royals have the George Brett (7/24/83) “pine tar” incident.

They also boast the 3rd shortest modern era player, Freddie Patek.

I believe the pecking order would be:

1. Eddie Gaedel – St. Louis Browns (once-used midget 3’ 7”)
2. Harry Chappas – Sox (5’ 3”)
3. Freddie Patek – Royals (5’ 5”)

"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)

by tailgater on Aug 4, 2008 12:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Prolifiwhatnow?

I don’t get it.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 4, 2008 12:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OT - anyone watch "60 Minutes" last night

and see the Bill James/BoSux piece? Bill James may as well have lit a cigarette and asked for a towel from Epstein/Lucchesi. Seamheads, never give up. You, too, might get rich.

(SSS site value rising from the dead, as Cheat and shaftr are posting regularly again. Value now $75K. Hamstrung by team’s horse$h!t play as interest in Sox wanes…)

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 1:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah that was a rerun

what was Andy Rooney complaining about, Y2K?

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Aug 4, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

probably how there are too many fruits in the supermarket now or something.

kumquat? plantain? when i was a boy, there were apples, cherries, oranges, bananas and strawberries. and that was it. and we were just fine. lychee? please. just give me a golden delicious and a glass bottle of coke and let me watch the dick van dyke show…

by larry on Aug 4, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When those waiters ask me if I want some fresh ground pepper, I ask if they have any aged pepper.
Andy Rooney

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 4, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man, I haven't seen anyone play perrer in a long time

and when I did it certainly didin’t appear to cause gas.

Or do you mean Pepper Martin of the Gashouse Gang?

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I saw Olivier play Perrer, but it was long ago.

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 4, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

*pepper*

I hate typing. HATE!!!

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go get a paper towel and clean up that spelling mess

Grumpy OPOS.

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Aug 4, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

!

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 4, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

redundant younger POS.

"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 4, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Might I recommend Brawny?

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Aug 4, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brauny?

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 4, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Should I get you a Bromo?"

“No, I couldn’t stand the noise!”

W.C. Fields

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 4, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice try

but they mentioned the 2007 WS championship – couldn’t have been Ed Bradley old.

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2008 Best and Worst Fielders
...here are the top 20 fielders so far in 2008, ranked in order of runs saved above average (these aren’t per 150 innings or anything, by the way – this is the player’s total so far):

...
14. Anderson, CHA 13.1
...

And how about the trailers:

...
7. Griffey Jr, Cin -15.1
...

Figuring you might be interested in, oh, say, the 800 some players in between the top and bottom 20, here’s the full spreadsheet.

There you’ve got ratings at every position, positional averages in some of the key stats, and team totals again. Feel free to use it however you’d like, of course, and let me know if you have any questions. And let me know if I’ve messed anything up, be it in the spreadsheet or in any of my rambling above. I am by no means any type of expert on fielding analysis, but I find it fascinating, and I hope you do too.

http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2008/07/deefense_deefen_1.php


thanks to chiburb for the pointer

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Aug 4, 2008 1:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you missed Q!

who has been quite disappointing with the glove.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Aug 4, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

beat me to it.

Quentin, CHA -12.1

by larry on Aug 4, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How's Adam Dunn, fellow LF'er (and "dogger", like KGJ, allegedly)?

I remember folks wanted Dunn this offseason. Net-net, who has provided more runs to his team, Q! or Dunn? (I’d guess Q, but I have no idea how many more.)

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh yeah

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Aug 4, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He truly shows why highlight reel defensive plays are overrated...

when he botches the easy ones.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 4, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that isn't what that measures.

“botching” isn’t what range is about.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 4, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes, but regardless of accuracy they seem to confirm what we see

with our own eyes. Alexei at about “even” seems about right (for example).

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 4, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's not about even.

that’s easily worst second basemen in the league.

by larry on Aug 4, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uribe at .02!

Kinsler is worse than Chelexei. -11.77.

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not a ratio?

Even so, Kinsler’s still pretty bad, though he does have other qualities that are superb.

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"how many roads must a man waalllk down...?"

homer: “eight!”
lisa: “that was a rhetorical question!”
homer: “oh. then, seven!”
lisa: “do you even know what rhetorical means?”

"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 4, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, OK.

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you altogether healthy again?

"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 4, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's a sick mother fucker

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 4, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

then it's own fault.

he should know that sick mothers are contagious in all sorts of ways.

"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 4, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

indeed

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 4, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel good - ran 14 miles yesterday

but as evidenced by my earlier posts I’m still not mentally sharp.

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you want more discussion fodder

konerko and swisher are ranked almost exactly the same (about -3). and, since swisher has played half the innings, that means he’s a significantly worse 1b. goes against conventional wisdom, no?

by larry on Aug 4, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It lists Pablo as having made a positive contribution

at third base, albeit a small one. Sample size is quite small- but there should still be no way that he rates positively on any defensive metric.

by Off the bus running on Aug 4, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The wonderful world of defensive metrics

Oh yeah I trust those.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Aug 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never trust a big butt and a defensive metric.

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Aug 4, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that stat is poison!

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Aug 4, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me thinks

He take Jose Canseco to heart too much.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Aug 4, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Magglio, Abreu worse than Dye...

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 4, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Q and disappointing in the same sentence?

WHO ARE YOU

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 4, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Front page Yahoo now:

White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen faces a suspension for confessing one of baseball’s ugly truths. " What?

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 4, 2008 2:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-ozziesecret080308&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 4, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can only hope that Ozzie orders up a pitch upon returning from suspension.

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Aug 4, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you know...should it come to that....

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Aug 4, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Royals take on the beanballs

http://royalsblog.kansascity.com/?q=node/168

“Perhaps the Royals have found their rival.” Yeah, right.

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hitler Is Pretty Much Fed Up With The Brett Favre Situation


http://deadspin.com/5032735/hitler-is-pretty-much-fed-up-with-the-brett-favre-situation

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Aug 4, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

In other OT football news...

The Bears very own Rex Grossman ranked #32 of 32 NFL quarterbacks by SI.

Congrats Rex! Keep up the good work.

"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)

by tailgater on Aug 4, 2008 2:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why is this city full of such inept sports teams?

I was a multiple time all star throughout my little league career. Won 5 championships- 4 in a row- thats more in a row than MJ… (kenwo4life@aol.com)

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 4, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So it's possible Alexei is a bad second baseman?

What does that mean about switching him to short next season? Especially since OC rates so highly in pretty much every measure I’ve seen?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 4, 2008 2:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

it means he'll be GREAT at SS next year!

since there’s no “sample size” in that study, Alexei is the perfect SS after his chance there yesterday!

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 4, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also: seriously, there's no chance BA can learn to hit?

He’s so fucking good with the glove.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 4, 2008 2:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yep. quick question, lad:

Has Junior learned how to play 1B yet? (speaking of CF)

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 4, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's there to learn?

“You know what a short hop is?
“You know which foot is your left and which is your right?”
“You know how to take a cut off?”
“You know which base is which?”

I mean granted, he should be taking reps and all that (hint to the beat writers out there), but it’s first base. It isn’t that tricky.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 4, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, again, I don't think any professional baseball player should have to "learn" how to play 1st base.

Has Griffey “practiced” 1st yet?
That’s the question..

And my guess is no, Pahps.

(Colin, have you gotten the email response from Ozzie yet? If not, try adding some smack about his family…he likes that…)

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Aug 4, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nah and he didn't email me back last time

but i swear he was trying to find out if Adam Russell could be put in higher leverage situations. and as for reps at first, that’s where the beat writers should be stepping in. and asking that constantly.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 4, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still think you kids will end up together

(Like Sid and Nancy.)

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that works for me

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 4, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Harold and Maude

(cuz I’m the older…though, contrary to MM belief, not grandma old)

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Aug 4, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just spinster old...

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 4, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry if i was rude. i never talk like that to my elders.

except obviously wu, but that’s because he is the original opos.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Aug 4, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jim is Live-blogging/twitting the Knights tonight


http://soxmachine.com/blogs/soxmachine/archive/2008/08/04/13576.aspx

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Aug 4, 2008 3:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

To Knights the night...

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 4, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

:(

Kalk blog link

As soon as this comes out, I’m going to do a Javy pre and post May 28 dealie.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 4, 2008 3:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm done with Ozzie....

Getting upset because some guy bunts up 6-0? The Royals were up by 5 the day before and it wasn’t safe. What a whack job…

by BoKnows05 on Aug 4, 2008 3:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he said he was done with you too.

you probably care as much as he does.

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 4, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ozzie has no credibility in mlb....

He’s ticked off the gold ol boys network today…

by BoKnows05 on Aug 4, 2008 3:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How soon before he is stripped of his WS rings?

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just checked...

the Royals scored again…

by BoKnows05 on Aug 4, 2008 3:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A stunning debut, really

not since SoB has SSS seen such a bright star burst on the scene in his first three posts.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Aug 4, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so bright the Magi will follow him here

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 4, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 4, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wearing my "don't give up...don't ever give up" bracelet right now.

just a philanthropist showing his benevolence through altruism. another one of the many hats i wear.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Aug 4, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Second to your "I'm #1" mesh trucker hat?

POS

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Aug 4, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you know it, but beware: just because i'm charitable doesn't mean i won't call in some friends to kick your ass.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Aug 4, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm shaking in my pasties.

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Aug 4, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i've got singles!

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Aug 4, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha! I had a hard time keeping a straight face while I typed that last one.

good stuff.

"just realized the superman uni is barely visible but slightly protruding out of his jersey. and i began to slightly protrude out of my pants." - MM

by homesickalien on Aug 4, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and now you've got me google imaging "pasties". my whole day is ruined.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Aug 4, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice posse.

"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)

by tailgater on Aug 4, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still don't believe you kids will end up together.

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm the

Mike Aviles of the board…..do you know him? You probably had never heard of him until you couldn’t pitch around him…

by BoKnows05 on Aug 4, 2008 3:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i see the confusion.

all messed up by the name of the site. we’re not the white sox.

by larry on Aug 4, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scored again....

19 hits….

Crank dat soildja boi!

by BoKnows05 on Aug 4, 2008 3:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fact-type factoid-type thingies:

1. The Sox have 52 games left (including the completion of the suspended Baltimore game), Twins have 51. To avoid confusion, the suspended Baltimore game will be considered in this post to be a home game for the Sox, even though it will be finished in Baltimore (i.e., I am assuming the Sox will get to bat last).
2. The Sox have 30 games at home, 22 away. The Twins have 21 games at home, 30 away. As we all know, they play each other just 1 more time—3 games in the Dome o’ Doom in mid/late September.
3. The Sox play: DET 6 times (all H); BOS 7 times (4H, 3A); KC 6 times (3H, 3A); OAK 3 times (all A); SEA 3 times (all H); TB 3 times (all H); BAL 4 times (1H, 3A); CLE 6 times (3H, 3A); LAA 3 times (all H); TOR 4 times (all H); NYY 4 times (all A); MN 3 times (all A).
4. The Twins play: SEA 9(is that right?!) times (3H, 6A); KC 9 times (6H, 3A); NYY 3 times (all H); OAK 7 times (3H, 4A); LAA 4 times (all A); TOR 3 times (all A); DET 3 times (all H); BAL 3 times (all A); CLE 3 time (all A); TB 4 times (all A); Sox 3 times (all H).

The upshot: Hard to say. Obviously, the home/away split heavily favors the Sox. Howeva! Offhand (I haven’t calculated W-L%), it looks like the Twins have the easier schedule—a full 35% of their games are against the Royals and Mariners. Each team has a few brutal series (for the Sox, the 3 games at Boston and 4 games in NY, and for the Twins, the 4 games in TB and 4 games at LAA). Looks pretty tight to me.

by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 4, 2008 4:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i don't get it. usually you do good work. i can't even figure out what the punchline is here.

fuck you, that's my name!! you know why, mister? 'cause you drove a hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar bmw. that's my name!!

by MarketMaker on Aug 4, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's turning into seinfeld...it's about nothing.

"fortunately, i'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber."

by Toonderstrook on Aug 4, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's the deal with El Guapo's posts? (Enter Kramer while George and Elaine look on)

"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)

by tailgater on Aug 4, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lost the "Master of his Domain" bet again, eh AEG?

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remain the Lord of the Manor.

(Glances at MM’s 4:59 post, subsequent repeated use of the word “pasties”) ...

Wait, I mean: I’m out.

by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 4, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe someone can recap this post?

:-)

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Aug 4, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice signature

If it comes true my wife will be oh so thankful…and frankly, quite surprised.

"Everybody looks at the Cubs. Look at the White Sox. They're a pretty good ballclub." - Lou Piniella (6/29/08)

by tailgater on Aug 4, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not so surprised lately....

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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